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bowie

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Join Date: 01/20/2013 | Posts: 284

New member here - glad to join. Will post field reports, thoughts and POV's here.

So I read the Game back in the day and used some of the skills from the book sporadically - didnt really stick though - thought the methods was too bullshitty and was annoyed with thinking in routines all the time - i always prefered winging it and improvising so I kind of bailed the game after a while and did my own thing for a number of years with periodical success but far from the results I always knew I could and wanted to achieve.

Then by chance i stumbled across Brad Bransons blog and found out how much the game has developed since i read the book 6-7 years ago. The new skool of game is so much cooler because of its simplicity and the focus on fun for you - as opposed to the reaction seeking and button pushing the old style was focused on. Brads blogposts are spot on - super simple, straightforward and applicable. Furthermore I am a total inner game nerd and enjoy the focus on this just as much as I enjoy the outer game stuff.

After having spent 3 months reading through alot of stuff on the forum  - thanks to Paris Boum Boum for a great collection of most of the key posts -  I gradually started to make use of the skills and concepts promoted by RSD. Seriously I am having more fun going out than ever before and I can say for sure that this shit works! 

3 months ago I had no idea what any of the RSD concepts meant in relation to pick up and had totally forgotten about the Game and pick up theory. I was basically a total chode taking chics on dinner dates, almost never getting the SNL, very limited cold approaching, never getting physical or sexual, asking all the boring logical questions, trying to be the nice guy - you get the picture. Most of us has been there once.

Now 3 months into the process I have done insta makeouts, had a bathroom pulls (no sex but close..), gotten loads of solid numbers, had SNL's, 3-4 day 2s in a week - with some real quality women. Dont have abundance yet but I can sense its close given all the solid numbers and day 2s I have. The coolest thing is the Ill do what the fuck i want mindset I have managed to get going in the club a few times where interactions are super smooth and you can totaly feel the girls attraction because you do what you want - just bouncing from set to set like its the most natural thing in the world clawing girls in while talking shit.

I am super excited about this stuff and the impact it has had on my life in such short time - knowing that this is a long process of constant development I know I can and will improve a lot and this gets me even more excited about whats to come.

I have a borderline compulsory ability to commit and stick to a process and learn everything there is to learn about a topic - keep pushing and pushing - so I am pretty confident I can get good at this and that I will stick with it. The important thing obviously is enjoying the process, the gradual improvements and the small successes.

Will try to post as often as possible  - looking forward to hopefully adding value to the forums - I have received tons of value from the forums already so about time I give something back and join the discussion.

Peace

Bowie
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#1

bowie

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Join Date: 01/20/2013 | Posts: 284

Field Report
Friday - going to bar first to meet a friend of mine. Bump into girl who knows me but who i didnt initially recognize - she looks hot! Red dress, loose hair - nice. We shake hands because I initially dont know who she is - after a while I recognize her and while we talk I hold on to her hand - she does not let go either - sharp eye contact - loose convo about a common a common friend of ours and how he is turning famous - she lets go of my hand after like 2 minutes - she seemed super attracted - so great start to the night - when the first interaction goes well state is pumped and you are set to go.

Hit the club - chode around for a bit and talk to people I already know and look up some of the promoters - always good to get acqauinted with these guys. Hit the second set of the night on the edge of the dance floor - I go in and start babbling about the music we listen to, she is kind of aloof early on but I plow and claw her in from the side and talk in her ear about female jazz singers and how their voices sound like they just had sex - this makes her pay more attention and as I tell her I will go to the other room she follows me and just hangs around me and my friend while I dont pay much attention to her and talk to other people. I am not super attracted to her and the night is young so I take it easy. In retrospect I should have isolated and make out just for the practice but i didnt...

Next set is a cute punk like girl - I go in hard from the front and tell her how she must be very important standing there with her mobile phone - next we talk magazines and i talk about an ex girlfriend I had who was a journalist and who was the coolest girlfriend I had because she knew as much about music as I did - she is super attracted and I claw in from the front, good eye contact, getting right in her face - not FB potential but cool friend potential. I tell her to type in her number - she complies - I give her a missed call.

Next set is a girl i met before who is super cute and looks stoned - I accuse her of being drunk and trying to hit on me - she seems a bit aloof too but hangs around anyway and I blast at her with all my plowing skills and she starts finding me funny it seems and lightens up - I want to number close her for later - she puts up the BF excuse and I tell her I wont tell him and I dont care about him and tell her again to type in her number. I give her a missed call.

Bump into the second girl again - the hang around outside by the bathroom - she is talking to another dude and I go in and tell him I need his girlfriends phone number - she laughs and then her phone rings - I interrupt the call and keep talking to her so she hangs up and types in her number in my phone.

Good things:
Good physicality (clawing in fast)
Good plowing (talking about all kinds of stuff - fast changing topics - keeping her mlldly confused and on the edge
Got sexual - this was an issue before  - I wasnt turning the convo sexual - this worked out great tonight
Passed tests and beat resistance from the girl who brought up the BF excuse

Bad things:
No make out
No pull
No isolation
Sets could have been longer but I guess i was not super attracted to the girls i was in set with
So above is a bad thing too - need to get in set with the ones I am really turned on by - especially later in the night
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bowie

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On Day 2 and Day 3s

I had a lot of day 2s recently with girls I met here and there. Most go well although I dont pull that often on day 2s which i find annoying. I am not showing enough intent and not leading enough.

I pulled on a day 2 sometime ago with a girl I met on Friday - met up Sunday and went for a walk - beefing up the physicality and teasing her while we are walking and generally talk about myself and random things. At some point I tell her we will go to my place and eat pizza - she complies and we head home. Blanket, sofa pizza, then make out - then a drag her into the bedroom - she resists a bit but only verbally - not physically - I dont respond to it and we get on the bed - put some nice music on and make out ensues.

I had a day 3 recently where I basically just told her instead of going somewhere we would go to my place - no objections - we get home eat some food and I go for the makeout in the sofa. She is pretty shy so kind of pulling back - I start licking and biting her neck an she gets in to it - switch to the lips and she is slowly getting into it more and more. At some point she gets really wild and starts moaning and pulling my hair until she suddenly pulls back and has to leave...shy and innocent - cute. I am OK with it because I know she is attracted - she drove 1 hour across town for the second time - so she invested  -about time I give her a return on that investment.

So the learning here is:

1. Lead - dont ask tell whats going to happen
2. Beat Tests - when she objecs or resists - its usually only verbal - its the physcial reaction you should pay attention to. So just dont pay attention to her objections and drag her around
3. Show your intent and get physical early - let her know you like her and get comfortable touching her asap. A hug is a good start but you need to claw in a few times from various positions and get close to her face - touch her hips. legs etc.

When I miss out on day 2s its usually because the girl is super hot and I dont feel entitled which stifles my actions and my intent. So I know what the problem is. Its problematic though with the really hot girls who are also having strong personalities - I am not quite there yet with the turbos it seems. I had a day 2 with a model girl who seemed very attracted early on and came from along way to see me. But I didnt show intent and didnt get physical and get really annoyed with myself due to lack of progress - getting in my head - she get weirded out and things didnt work out.

So: Lead, Show intent, Escalate,  Beat resistance
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#3

bowie

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Saturday

First set - go in hard claw in and start talking about something really weird - breakfast preferences of weird famous designers  -she is into the convo and responds well to physciality. This set is going well - i pull back for a bit a find out she is the girlfriend of a new friend i have - so have to leave her to him...too bad.

Second set - really stunning girl walks by - i open her by standing in front of her saying wauw staring her down and not saying anything else. She gets really shy in a cute way and says thankyou - i talk about egypt and pyramids for a while until she excuses herself to the bathroom - didnt get physical with her or isolate - my mistake - good thing however have reduced my reaction time and staring her down witha good vibe.

Third set - really cool creative type - i go in hard and talk about snowboarding - she has shield but I manage to plow through and claw her in while talking. She ejects after a while.

No pull here - but good interactions

Good things:
Low reaction time
Good vibe
Clawing in
Good Plowing

Bad things:
No isolation
No make outs
No pulls

So already here my sticking points are obvious - i am good at approaching, getting physical, establshing attraction, plowing through - need to focus on isolating, showing harder intent, going for the make out and pulling!

This is so much fun!
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bowie

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Elevator Game/Day Game

I have become very adept at elevator game - its natural to open chick you have to share elevator with for a while - there is alot of elevators and tall building around here.

I will open them up and walk with them for a while after leaving the elevator and then stop up and get their number. Some get weirded out by it - some are cool with it.

Got the number of a real cutie yesterday after exiting the elevator - she already started to text me - so this is promising.

I am still nervous about day game - but whats the difference between opening someone in the elevator and on the street? Nothing really - just your brain telling you its Ok to strike up conversation in an elevator - time to tell my brain to tell me thats its just as normal to open up chics on the street. I think opening up chics on the street is gonna be a habit soon too like the elevator thing - a couple of months back opening in an elevator and asking for a number was far outside my comfort zone - now its pretty normal - expanding the comfort zone and doing shit that makes you nervous a few times is the key - then the brain has got it wired as normal behavior and you will be able to do it without any nervousness - whats left will just be the feeling of excitment - but nothing that will hold you back from approaching.
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bowie

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Saturday

Hitting the club around midnight- hit up the first set right as I enter the venue - lone wolf cutie messing around with her phone - i go in hard get her attention plow ahead getting light physicality going - talk about things - she answers - i talk about something else - she asks a question i dont reply etc usual semi confusing convo jumping from topic to topic - i eject on this one (pulled her later...)

Next set I go in hard again - a girl i have talked with another day - try to claw in she resists a bit by holding her drink up to kind of push me away - i am loud and get sexual fast - she is attracted and smiling but still resisting. I bounce and go talk to other girls but look her up later in the night - she is a bit pissed of by then and keeps asking where is that other girl i was talking to in a good girly jealousy way - have her number - will get her later. I try to isolate to her another room later but she says no - I said lets go upstairs - next time ill not give a specific location just say adventure or something - I am not afffected to much because there are other girls around. She sticks around however for a long time - I think she was watching me.

I hit the next set right next to the former girl  - as mentioned above this really got the other girls attention - a nice jealousy plotline. She is totally into the convo - smiles and laughs- she is cute - she tells me fast that I am a player - i say yes and that she likes to be played. After a while I eject on this one because I see another girl I have been working on another night.

She is super hot I claw in and get sexual again fast - she is rather drunk and responsive physically but maintains a stone face - she keep buzzing around me the whole night - but as I approach her she turns her back and does something else so after doing that a few times i ignore her - she bites on to this and ends up getting pretty much in my face - I get physical again but nothing happens - should have isolated.

I go back to the first set and isolate her to a sofa - make out - then pull - then her place - fun times ensues.

Good things:
Tried to isolate but was denied
Isolated and got the make out
Was called a player - seems my game is getting smooth in a player kind of way - not necessarily good but I have not been called that before so i still take it as a compliement for now
Get very physical - this is really becoming a habit - pulling in the girl early on - this works very well
Get sexual fast in the convo - talking about sex
Showed intent - told the girls directly what I wanted to do to them and where...this worked well too
I Pulled!!

Bad Things:
Only one makeout - had the opportunity to do more
Only one new number - should have gotten more
Worry that I am pushing ahead too fast with sexual banter and intent
Worry that I am getting too physical too fast

In general this was a very good night - i pushed further than I ever did before. It is amazing how well getting physical, getting sexual and showing unapologetic intent works....and its fucking fun too! The girls knows whats up and what you are there for - if she is up for it there is no confusion - if she is not up for it fuck it - other girls will be.

I do however worry that I am too fast with the sexual banter and intent and physicality - it might seem like reaction seeking - doing this is in a non reaction seeking way is tricky because obviously you are trying to get the girl horny - but obviously the key is to do it to make yourself horny in the first place - which then will make her horny - whatever you feel she feels is totally spot on!

I do get super horny when I tell a girl 5 minutes after i met her what I want to do with her and where while pulling her in - self amusing and self arousing -  most girls seems to think is it super fun/arousing and giggle away in the good way - just a few getting weirded out by it.
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bowie

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Talking Dirty while Making Out/Sexing

I found out it works really well to be verbally really dirty leading up to and during make out and also during sexing - I used to never do this but now I do it all the time. Its gets me in the right spot - massive turn on for myself - and the girls too if delivered in a non - needy non-reactive non-reaction seeking way (not seeking her reaction that is - I am seeking a reaction from myself - getting horny).

It also gives you alot of ammo for verbal deliveries - any sexual conversation is a fun conversation - unless its creepy of course.

Now I just tell the girl what I want to do with her and where I want to do it, what I want to use to do it and how many times i want to do it - works like a charn and will boost your verbals and pump your sexual state.
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bowie

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Friday

Go to the club spot a chick i like and go into a set fast - cute girl with a hat. Nice that I am doing this now with zero negative approach anxiety. She is receptive - I steal her hat and put on my own head - chit chat about boring stuff - grab her number and plan to return to her later.

Meet up with a girl I have made out with before and I claw her in fast and go for the makeout early on - cheeks me a bit but seems she is up for it anyway - I lead her to a quiet area and push her up againts the wall and lick her neck and cheeks for a while while talking semi dirty and talking about last time we made out. She is ready for the kiss now - kissing and all - very nice. Good kisser - she looks all cute and in love when i talk to her like this. We sit down by the bar and she start talking about being problematic and no good and having issues etc. I havent really dealt with this before so i chose an unreactive frame and tell her I think she is cool - we are both cool. Seems to work out OK. I make out with her again on the dance floor - seems this is on - but she suddenly leaves the venue without telling me. Weird. But ok - no biggie.

Make a move on girl on the dance floor but not really into her so only mildly physical - I eject.

Make a move on girl who turns out to be lesbian - her lover comes running and intefers - i tell her to chill the fuck out. Make a move on another girl - the BF comes running and interferes - I tell him to chill the fuck out.

Try to find the girl with the hat but apparebtly she left too - so at this point its getting late and I am getting pretty drunk so I leave the venue.

Good things:
Make out
Zero approach anxiety
No hesitation when approaching
One solid number from a new cutie

Bad things:
Still worry about being to physical and verbally aggresive too fast
No pull with the girl from make out - she left this was weird - but she is confused which is cute and OK with me - I am gaming her hard so confusion is normal I think
Not approaching enough girls
Approaching girls I am not super attracted too
Not staying in set long enough- settling for the number which is playing to not lose - not playing to win
Have to be careful with tacky club makeouts - I might have gone a bit overboard with the one who left even though the make outs were short and sweet - could be better to focus more on tension building - being in her face staring her down - showing that I can do it anytime
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bowie

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Ups and downs

Funny how this process is somewhat of an emotional rollercoaster - one day you feel like a king because you get shit done, good interactions, the opportunities seems endless. The the next day something fucked up happens - usually flakes from girls you were certain about or weird girly behavior and you feel like crap because things stall - no progress and worrying about whether you do things right or wrong.

Today is the second time i experience a comedown from the fantastic feeling of progress - the first time was after a day2 with a super turbo where I just didnt escalate, nothing happened besides semi boring conversation and the the vibe was pretty weird in the end - I was so annoyed wirth myself that I didnt push things forward and felt I totally blew a fantastic opportunity  - really bad mood after that. This was a total entitlement issue that I was unprepared for.

Today I have sort of a similar feeling of having dissappointed myself. This time its due to the girl from Friday - good make out in club - escalated and everything seemed to go fine and suddenly she left the venue without telling me. Now i noticed she blocked me from this IM service we use around here and have not responsed to my text from yesterday afternoon either. I knew she was confused - she told me this - so actually im not too suprised to see this weird behavior. I came on very strong on this one. But because the interaction was fun and hot I was pretty sure this was home safe.

Now I know girls get weird and I should just brush this off and wait for her to deal with her own emotions - or work on some of the other girls - but still so annoying when you put alot of energy into a set with a girl you actually find cool and she ends up being totally weird out of nowhere. I will not contact her again for a while now - no needy behavior. - let her come to me.

I also know the key is to reframe this as another reference experience - which I am doing - and that one of the most important things in this context is to learn to free yourself from outcome dependence - this can only happen through exposure to these kinds of situations - you learn that girls get weird and you learn that she probably will come around- just needs time to deal with her emotions - or you will just go work on some other girls tomorrow instead and forget about this one. You also learn that things will fuck up - this is unavoidable. Just gotta have enough of these experiences and you will be able to detach yourself from the outcome because you have dealth with it so many times before.

Still annoying to feel like you lost a good one - and unable to pin down exactly what went wrong - girls behavior can be difficult to read sometimes...
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bowie

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Airplane - almost pull

In the airport notice this girl hovering around me. I call her out on it and she sits down next to me. We chit chat and have few laughs. She is shy but seems very interested. We board the plane together but seats are pretty far from eachother. After takeoff i go down to figure out where she is sitting and notice she sits alone on a row in the back. I go and sit next to her and re-engage the conversation. I start busting on her for being a man-eater and for trying to seduce me and do nasty things in the lavatory. I start holding her hands and feeling up her legs - she giggles and allows me to amp up physically.

As we land we disembark together and I tell her we are taking a taxi together - she puts up alot of resistance and starts to talk about her hotel and how she needs to liaise with the travel agent. We walk around the airport for a while until I start dragging her towards the taxis. We finally get into the taxi and I escalate further on the backseat hugging her and feeling her up. We kiss for a while. As we reach we compound I tell her to come with me, but she refuses - i try again but dont succeed so she continues towards her hotel and I go home. Lame.

Anyways she is texting me a lot now but lives on another city - will probably get a good shot at her next time she visits my city.

So the cool experience here was how far the thought of an airplane pull used to be outside of my comfort zone - but now it almost happened. Physical escalation in the plane like it was the most natural thing, leading her to my home, being in control. This was fucking funny. And obviously provides a new dimension to air travel in the future :)

Now just need to break the final layers of resistance.
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bowie

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Friday

Go out alone to a club in the neighborhood. Go in and talk to the girls in the entrance - talk about music as usual. Just chatting around. Go the dancefloor which is already pumping and open a girl standing next to me she answers in one word looks down to the floor and turns around - blow out - nevermind. I go the bar and talk to a girl sitting there telling her she looks like a lot of fun sitting there alone not talking to anyone. She responds but is weary - tells me fast she has a boyfriend - who she then calls over- he comes over and I start to alk to him to just being friendly and spreading good vibes telling not to worry - the girl is not that hot either. Then another girl comes over I know from before - we talk about italy and rome for a while until I eject because she is not that hot either. I go another bar and befriend a guy sitting there for a while. I go to the DJ stand and open a girl there who is not very good at english - i plow ahead and just amuse myself - until another girl comes over and pulls this one away.

I bump into another girl i know from before - claw in and deep eye contact - she is super attracted I can feel even though her boyfriend os right next to us - we talk about haircuts. I eject and talk to some of the promoters and DJ's - always good to befriend these guys.

I go the upstairs bar and bump into some girls I know before - vibing with them - they are both dating guys I know so I take it easy. Another girl is sitting next to them - I lock her eyes and open her. She is very receptive - after a few minutes of vibing I hold her hands interlace fingers and claw her in - boyfriend comes around to interrupt - the girl is still into me letting me feel her up - I befriend the guy a figure out we have common friends so I decide to leave this one to him. She was cute. Good for him - there are more around. Meet another pretty girl I know from before - she is super into me but looks weird in her face, like she just cried or something - eyes swollen - maybe she was on drugs or something - I dont know. She invites me to a dinner tomorrow - I say I cant but shot the shit with her for a while. Then I go and talk to the bar owner for a bit and dude who has a band. Cool people.

Open another girl on the way to the bathroom - she is into me we vibe and talk about clubbing but I am not really into her although she is sweet.

I return downstairs - and jump into a set with a cutie - she is into me and I escalate claw her in lock her eyes - I really work on the tension game with this one - not saying much but giving laser eyes holding hands - turning my back on her sometimes and talk to another girl next to us - I dont answer her questions but say something different to amuse myself and keep her mldly confused - I stop and laser eye her for a bit. Then I go for the make out - its on. She is into it but a guy comes over and interferes. I deal with him and keep the girl but she ends saying she has to leave - get her number for later - she texts late at night - I dont reply.

I open another girl who is sexy but also hostile and weird - she sticks around so she is defnitely attracted - she tests me alot - I remain unreactive and plow - dont answer her questions - respond with something unrelated - i struggle with turning the conversation playful and fun because she is rather negative towards me - I try to escalate physically but she pushes my hands away all the time - I say something lame -  cant remember what -  she says she should better leave I agree and wave my hand at her while smiling. This was an interesting set - very challenging - didnt manage to turn her around though.

Then I open another girl - I am on fire now and busts on her - she says fast she has a boyfriend who is standing right next to us - I keep plowing and actually get good physicality going for a bit - she is hot - the boyfriend is a cool dude so I leave them after a while.

Open two more sets on the dancefloor - one is a promoter girl who is acting all busy- whatever -i keep talking but she leaves. The other set is an older model - i just stand there and plow for a bit then look at her - she seems attracted and keeps hovering around me but it stales.

As the club closes I reopen a girl from earlier - the one who could not speak english very well. We walk outside - as we are waiting for the taxi I just stand there hugging her while saying nothing - she is totally under my spell. But I am not that attracted to her so I push her in a taxi and head home.

Good Things:
- Going out alone and having tons of fun with it
- Opening alot of sets and manage to plow through most of them
- The rejections I got didnt mess with my frame at all - I can feel I dont really care about the blowouts anymore - I am just like tssh whatever and then laugh at these silly girls who are too shy to deal with me
- Going for the makeout and getting it
- Got the tension game going - laser eye contact slights smile and silence
- Got the hot and cold game going to some extent - turning my back on the girl suddenly when the set goes well
- Plowing skills are good and opening without alot of anxiety
- Just naturally walking aroun talking to people - both girls and guys like its the most natural thing - I definitely did not do this before I got into thi - so nice walking around feeling everybody is your friend
- Dealt really well with some AMOGS and boyfriends - cool frame - no hostility - just included them in the conversation
- Got the interlacing finger and holding hands game going - nice addon to the claw which I now master pretty well

Bad Things:
- Didnt pull - could have pulled the girl from the makeout I think If i had pushed harder - also could have pulled the girl I was with when I left the club - but was not attracted enough to her
- The AMOG game is something I need to be better at - i am maybe to friendly with them which could be seen as weak - but dont want to piss of people more than necessary. Its annoying however - I get AMOGed alot tonight. So need a better strategy for this. Being nice works fine and is the best strategy for long term but not good for SNLs for sure. Will try to be more cocky next time.
- Didnt showas much intent and sexual frame as I did before - this is bad in some way because intent speeds up the process - but also nice to prove to myself that I could escalete without being overly sexually direct which I got into some serious LMR about last weekend. This definitely needs calibration.
- Didnt manage to turn the conversation with the hostile girl playful and funny - didnt manage her tests good enough - was unreactive and didnt answer her questions though - so the strategy is correct - just not convincing enough I guess.
- Opening too many sets with girls I am not really into - too few 9 and 10s. Need to work on this. For now however its good practice to work with 7 and 8s.
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