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December 10th, 2016
Los Angeles Bootcamp w/ Owen & Jeffy (1/3/13 - 1/5/13)
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Doge~

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“Pickup is fun and lighthearted... it’s not this serious ordeal where you’re going up negative, you’re in your head, it’s like this mission impossible... and if you fail it’s like the world explodes...” - Julien


This is my 3rd bootcamp with RSD. I’ve taken one with Owen back in 2009 which was also in LA.

This bootcamp was interesting. It wasn’t what I expected yet I think it was exactly what I needed.

Usually I think of bootcamp as something where the instructor teaches the mechanics of game and corrects where you’re going wrong in the execution, however, that wasn’t the case here, at least not with Owen. I know Jeffy is more mechanics-oriented but regardless, I think even Jeffy realized I didn’t need to be taught much, just certain calibration tweaks here and there.

So day 1 I had Jeffy. This is basically an observation day for the instructors. They throw you to the wolves and see where you’re at. The instructors also go over momentum building.

Jeffy’s is pretty straightfoward.

1. Approach
2. Communication as a man to woman
3. Offer value

He’s been hammering on these points for several years now, so this is nothing new.

So we hit up Lure. I’ve been here several times. Hottest club in Hollywood at the moment. Hot girls, lots of people but loud as fuck with bottle service everywhere.

I don’t like this place at all...

Mostly because I’ve yet to have a decent night here. It’s always blow out city in this venue but I learn why this is later on as the weekend progressed.

So Thursday night I’m having a shit night. I approach a ton but I have so much anxiety in my body. I can’t relax, I’m kinda having fun in a pseudo-anxious sorta way but my approaches are going nowhere.

I actually had 1 approach where I did somewhat ok. I had a bit of momentum so I wasn’t so nervous and I could run a bit of my game. Other than that... nothing.

So night 1 is over.

Debrief was very basic. I think Jeffy knew he couldn’t really help me outside of some basic shit and really I came on program for Owen’s help. My issues are usually always inner game related.

Night 2 we hit up some bars in Hollywood and WeHo.

Tonight I have Owen. He goes over the momentum building process he went over with the other students yesterday, did some demonstrations and gave us an exercise to do... non-verbal sets.

So basically for the next hour we could not talk to the girl. We had to open without saying anything and continue until we get a makeout or blown out.

I FUCKING LOVE THIS EXERCISE.

It forces you to dial in on the right channels. Body language, eye contact, leading, physicality, being present, motion creates emotion, being in your movie as opposed to trying to get into hers. Holy shit so much fun.

So I’m doing this and totally enjoying myself. The reactions are hilarious. I get a 10 second makeout on some chick on her way to the bathroom.

Haha the irony is, because I think my verbal is the weakest part of my game (when I'm stifled), I love this exercise because I don’t have to talk. I can just go physical and it’s super funny.

So after approaching for a while. I suddenly had a realization in my body... wow, I’m fucking relaxed. I’m just present, in state but relaxed. This is amazing.

After day 1 of bootcamp I was driving home kinda depressed thinking, “Man... I wonder if I’ll get my sticking point handled this weekend... this almost seems like a waste of time.”

Day 2 it was like a dark cloud was lifted...

I realized after Owen taught us his processes for building his night, how fucked up my momentum building was. It's like Julien said, I viewed the approach like this big important thing that I had to do right or else.

I viewed every approach like, "Ok, I'm stifled but I gotta roll up and be loud and dominant, breaking rapport, push/pull, grab her, etc." It was like I basically thought the louder and more dominant I was the more she'll get attracted... which is completely absurd. It's almost like because I don't trust my long game, I'm trying to convey as much value as humanly possible off of the opener, which is just an insane way to go about this game.

No wonder I always had so much anxiety in my body. No wonder I always rolled up to the club so stifled. No wonder, no matter how many approaches I did, I couldn't relax and feel good in my body. I was just putting TOO MUCH PRESSURE on myself to step up.

As things began to make more sense throughout the weekend, I began to just realize I put too much importance on this skillset overall. I had become identified with the "tools of pickup" thinking that the tools were what made me a valuable individual.

Because I was loud, dominant, ballsy, physical, spitting gold, etc. I attributed these things as to what made me cool when in actuality, these things have nothing to do with my self worth.

So what if your game is better or not better than Juliens? You're not a better or worser person because you executed game better. You're just you and you're valuable simply because of who you are.

You learn game to help you meet women and have a great dating life. You don't learn game to make yourself into a more worthy individual.

Once I had this realization, wow game became fun again. I had a blast the rest of the weekend.

So last night, day 3 of bootcamp was after Hot Seat. We head out to downtown LA at the Edison.

Get inside we're learning about hard stops and walk withs. If you want to learn more about this then watch Owen's video about street game from Hermosa Beach.

So Owen is pushing the other students into set. He's not pushing me and I'm just standing around watching. I eventually get bored and start hitting up sets on my own.

FUCKING FUN YAY. Damn, I love pickup.

So my approaches are much better. Just a good vibe. I'm still kinda uncalibrated overall, I still definitely need tweaks but overall I'm just enjoying myself and having a blast.

Anyways, nothing much stands out really. Just a lot of fun approaches. Also heard Jeffy played the kazoo rendition of "Careless Whisper", that was quite enjoyable.

So in the end, I realize I don't need to be a GANGSTER, PIMP, BEAST... well at least my definition was somewhat skewed. Truthful game isn't you rolling up with some agenda and trying to take the hottest girl in the club from her big circle of friends and somehow this makes you awesome or something. It's not like that at all, although it can be sometimes but that's not what you go to the club to do.

You go to the club to just relax, have fun, joke around and simply add value to people's lives. That's it. It's not some complicated thing at all, there isn't much thinking involved. Just follow the processes and you'll be ok.

I also realized that before, I could not piece together in my reality Alex's statement, "I am enough. There's no reason that I'm not enough." The reason being because I was always TRYING and TRYING thinking I needed "game" for the girl to like me.

Now when I approach, I don't try for shit. I simply trust the process and that no matter what I do, it'll be fine.

Anyways, that was that. Bootcamp was surprisingly rather... tame. Bootcamp use to be this super stressful thing where I was pushing through a lot of pain... now it's just another night out. Hmm, oh well, it was totally worth it in the end regardless. I'm going to go out for the next 100 nights and just work on getting the momentum building down. That's it.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to ask questions. :)
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roadrally

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Sweet realizations you ha on relaxing at the club and realizing that there's no reason why you're not enough. I love being loose chill happy and just being silly with girls
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White Tiger

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 We didn't do that in my bootcamp. NON VERBAL Game - I have to try this for sure.  Keep rolling!
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Mamba

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 Sounds like you came to some great epiphanies during the camp. It's funny how these principles don't stick with us at first, it takes constant reminder and reflection so that our egos don't get in the way.

Do you run any daygame in LA? I live in the area as well but haven't really explored my options on that front. 
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ApproachMachine88

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Sounds like you are making great progress bro. Keep it up!
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Mark Francis

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Nice review man. Sounds like you've made progress to me. I'd like for you to elaborate on two points for me if you don't mind.

1.) You said Owen taught you how he builds his night. What did he do? What did he show you that suprised you?

2.) You said to trust the process. I always hear people talking about the "process". What exactly is the process!?

Thanks,
Mark
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There Is No Reason Why I Am Not Enough ~ Alexander Treasure

Focus On The Process ~ Owen Cook

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit. ~ Aristotle
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Doge~

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Sure. Here's the checklist:

1. Approach everything that comes within your field of view.
- Fairly self explanatory. Approach all girls that come around, ugly, old, hot, short, fat, tall, blonde, brunette, etc. This is to train yourself the habit of always approaching because if you don't approach the fat chick then what's going to happen when the 10 rolls by? You won't approach. You're brain will rationalize why you shouldn't.
2. Minimize time in between sets.
- If you stand around you just get in your head. Motion creates emotion. The exception to this is if you're hanging around with your buddies, joking around and having fun, then it's ok since you're still building those positive emotions.
3. Don't judge your approaches.
- Super important. Every approach you do is a 100/10. Always. Never judge your approaches negatively, every approach you do is the most amazing approach ever.
4. Find something funny in every approach.
- Find something funny because pickup is funny. It keeps you in a happy fun mood.
5. If it's early and your approaches are awkward, keep it short and sweet. If it's later in the night, burn it to the ground.
- If you're stifled or awkward, no need to terrorize people. It's ok to just throw out a few little comments and leave the set. You can always re-approach them later on.
6. Keep adding onto your approach each time.
- Keep building on your approaches.
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   Wow.
                   Such game.
Much improve.
                              So amaze.
                 Wow.
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White Tiger

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 Wow! you added one more rule to what I had. However - Did they teach you 3 rules of shock humors?
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Doge~

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Haha nah what's that?
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White Tiger

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 I missed it out too. I was in set when they taught that. 
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Mark Francis

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Wow. Awesome. Thank you.
Haze~ wrote:
Sure. Here's the checklist:

1. Approach everything that comes within your field of view.
- Fairly self explanatory. Approach all girls that come around, ugly, old, hot, short, fat, tall, blonde, brunette, etc. This is to train yourself the habit of always approaching because if you don't approach the fat chick then what's going to happen when the 10 rolls by? You won't approach. You're brain will rationalize why you shouldn't.
2. Minimize time in between sets.
- If you stand around you just get in your head. Motion creates emotion. The exception to this is if you're hanging around with your buddies, joking around and having fun, then it's ok since you're still building those positive emotions.
3. Don't judge your approaches.
- Super important. Every approach you do is a 100/10. Always. Never judge your approaches negatively, every approach you do is the most amazing approach ever.
4. Find something funny in every approach.
- Find something funny because pickup is funny. It keeps you in a happy fun mood.
5. If it's early and your approaches are awkward, keep it short and sweet. If it's later in the night, burn it to the ground.
- If you're stifled or awkward, no need to terrorize people. It's ok to just throw out a few little comments and leave the set. You can always re-approach them later on.
6. Keep adding onto your approach each time.
- Keep building on your approaches.

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To get what you want out of life, all you really need to do is be honest about it, don’t be afraid to go for it, and have fun while you do it—and you’ll eventually get it." ~ Tucker Max

There Is No Reason Why I Am Not Enough ~ Alexander Treasure

Focus On The Process ~ Owen Cook

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit. ~ Aristotle
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