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December 3rd, 2016
A new workable definition of 'State', and how to achieve it all day long.
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jackbauerctu

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**EDIT: On Page 10 of the comments, I have added an advanced part to the drill. Read this page first, but also look at my comments on Page 10.**

Guys, 

Over the past few years, with some help, I have been re-analysing and refining everything in my game down to the simplest, most workable ideas, and creating ways to implement and drill each area until it becomes mastered. 

One of the areas I have been looking at is the idea of 'State' - this esoteric concept that everyone has different ideas and interpretations of. It's so complicated and confusing that it seemed to me like we were missing something. 

Something has always seemed wrong about the elusive or contextual nature of State - how we really, despite our protests, need an environment to stimulate us to achieve it. Whilst many will argue that you can achieve State alone in your room, it simply doesn't happen. 

The rule when evaluating any element of Game is:  Complexity stems from lack of understanding. 


My spin is that, in its simplest and most workable definition, State is Extroversion. In this case, I don't mean extroversion as in the propensity to spend time around others to feel recharged; I mean it here to mean looking outwards and being focused on, and in communication with, your environment. (Use another definition if you please, I just haven't come up with a better one.)

The opposite of this is what we call introversion - retreating our focus inwards and withdrawing our communication with what is going on around us. 

This is the very definition of being 'stuck in your head' - introverted.

So, if the opposite goal to be is to be 'outside your head', I call that extroversion.  This conclusion comes from dissecting what we are doing when we do what we know to achieve State - we clap our hands, open the first girl we see. All this is an attempt to snap our focus outwards, by which we are in communication with our environment and the people in it. 

So, if the conclusion is right, then achieving State is becoming extroverted. When we are extroverted, we are guided by what is happening in front of us, and not by our mental considerations and internal dialogue. We communicate with the environment and the girl in front of us, which means our communication is focused in the right direction. When we are introverted and stuck in our heads, our communication is focused in the wrong direction. And that's when we get it wrong. 

As much as I'm sure that State helps us achieve results because of what it subcommunicates etc, this violates the above rule in that it is overly complex; there are too many examples of being able to pull and atrract women when not in State, for it to be a complete rule. 

So, my conclusion that I would present is: State is extroversion. It is important simply because it allows us to truly respond to what is happening in front of us, and our reactions are not guided by our internal dialogue. This is why State helps us pull; it isn't because of subcommunication. It is more simply because when we are introverted, we are not truly communicating with the girl and so we miss what is happening. Our natural instinctive finely-honed ability to read women and body language and communication becomes blocked by past experiences and we filter what is happening and don't respond quickly enough or in the right way. 

If that is the case, then 90% of pickup problems stem from Introversion. 


How to do it.

I probably haven't said anything groundbreaking here. The reason I have gone with the above is to make the point that State IS something more easily defined and workable than we have seen before. I am about to outline the process I have followed over the last few years to reach this state of extroversion, and how to drill it all day long. 

The results that we have seen from this exercise have been ridiculous. Do this drill enough, and you should start to get opened almost as much as you open. True extroversion or what we call State, as everyone who goes out knows, produces apparent miracles when achieved. I want to give us a way to drill it all day long so that it becomes permanent. 

You will curse me when you read this, because it's so childishly simple that it has to be wrong. Just bear with me, and then FIELD TEST IT for a week. Trust me on this. 

The recipe is: 

Look at things. 

Huh? 

What needs to happen is we need to reverse our tendencies to introvert. So, as you walk around, or sit at your desk, or make dinner in your kitchen, EVERYWHERE YOU GO, put your eyes on things in your environment. Take your kitchen for example. 

i) Put your eyes on something in your environment - notice a set of knives. 

ii) Notice what it is. 

iii) Notice that you noticed it. 

iv) Repeat with another object. Keep repeating and don't stop. 

What happens when we do this is that first of all we withdraw our stuck attention away from inside our head and internal dialogue. By looking at an object - and really looking at it - we shift our attention outwards, shut down our internal dialogue, and begin to communicate with our enviroment; we stick our attention externally, and by noticing that we have noticed the object, we begin to extrovert and communicate with the enviroment. 

The beauty of this drill is that it can be done anywhere, and the more you do it, the more your attention stays focused externally, and the more extroverted - in State - you become. By looking at objects and then moving to another object, your attention becomes locked externally and you don't have the chance to intovert. 

If you want an even more powerful version of this, do it when walking outside. Take a walk around the block, and do this drill with everything you see: people, buildings, cars, signs. This fast tracks the process because you get depth perception in there as well when you look at buildings that are far away and buildings that are close. This unsticks and frees up your attention faster. 

Do this on the walk to your pickup venue and you won't need to do any 'State' or unstifling exercises; you'll have hit it way before you get to the bar. 

As I said, before you lambast me for this, do this drill as much as you can stand over the next 7 days and report back your progress. I love feedback, but I shouldn't receive anything other than 'Yes, I'll try this!' for a week, because that means you have dismissed it without trying it. 

As I said, the proof of this drill is in the outcome - you should start to get opened if you do itenough, or if you already do, you should notice an increase in the amount of times it happens.

Give it a week and try it out!

Of course, any genuine questions, ask here and/or PM me. I hope that people will try this, as even the guys who don't actually go out can try it, and if they start to get opened, everyone wins! 

Cheers, 

JB. 
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Gumpshmee

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 I think you've probably got something here.
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 this is what i do. i make a analyzation about everything in front of me and speak what i think about it, what also helps is be you for YOU not for other because people are in love me with me when im extroverted
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CANM

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So just to be clear, 

1) See stop sign
2) Notice it's a stop sign
3) Notice that I noticed it's a stop sign
Move on to new item, repeat

Basically keep doing that? How long do you do this for? What if you notice some tall AMOG looking dudes walking down the street? Or something else that makes you anxious?

I'll try it out, just want to make sure I'm doing what you're proposing correctly.
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Yes, that's it Just keep doing this drill as much as you can stand. It's basically just LOOK at things, but by doing these steps it ensures we are actually looking and really seeing things. 

The purpose of this is to unstick attention which is normally fixed in one place or fixed internally. If we have to stop doing it to cross the street or to avoid some intimidating dudes or answer your phone, it's not going to undo everything. Just do it when you can and as much as you can.

Length of time doesn't matter. I walk a lot so that allows me to do a lot in one go, but if you only get a minute or two at a time, that's fine too. It can even be done with your office or place of work. Chair, computer, lamp, pen, colleague, door, window etc etc. 

Awesome that you will try it. Any questions let me know, but you should notice becoming more extroverted quite quickly. If you do this a lot in one go, you may even notice what kind of feels like a mental 'pop' as your attention gets unstuck and really focuses externally. It's hard to describe but you'll know it if you get it!

JB.
CANM wrote:
So just to be clear, 

1) See stop sign
2) Notice it's a stop sign
3) Notice that I noticed it's a stop sign
Move on to new item, repeat

Basically keep doing that? How long do you do this for? What if you notice some tall AMOG looking dudes walking down the street? Or something else that makes you anxious?

I'll try it out, just want to make sure I'm doing what you're proposing correctly.
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Maybe going a little further, if I see some intimidating looking dudes, instead of having the internetal dialogue that gets me anxious, I'd just look at and think "those are males. i notice they are males" and move on?

What happens when someone starts talking to you? Are you able to apply this still? 
jackbauerctu wrote:
Yes, that's it Just keep doing this drill as much as you can stand. It's basically just LOOK at things, but by doing these steps it ensures we are actually looking and really seeing things. 

The purpose of this is to unstick attention which is normally fixed in one place or fixed internally. If we have to stop doing it to cross the street or to avoid some intimidating dudes or answer your phone, it's not going to undo everything. Just do it when you can and as much as you can.

Length of time doesn't matter. I walk a lot so that allows me to do a lot in one go, but if you only get a minute or two at a time, that's fine too. It can even be done with your office or place of work. Chair, computer, lamp, pen, colleague, door, window etc etc. 

Awesome that you will try it. Any questions let me know, but you should notice becoming more extroverted quite quickly. If you do this a lot in one go, you may even notice what kind of feels like a mental 'pop' as your attention gets unstuck and really focuses externally. It's hard to describe but you'll know it if you get it
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This reminds me of mindfullness meditation - when you focus your attention on everything you see, hear, do, think or feel. The drops of water sliding down your leg in the shower, the feeling of the cold air hitting and drifting off of your skin (wind), etc. Mindfullness meditation is also something that can be done all day long.

Mackiavelli wrote:
 this is what i do. i make a analyzation about everything in front of me and speak what i think about it, what also helps is be you for YOU not for other because people are in love me with me when im extroverted

This I don't aggree with. The purpose of this is to notice things, or in a more raw definition, shift you focus on things. Analyzing things puts you in your head, it triggers the brain's filters - but if you only notice things (a.k.a. are being aware of things without judging or thinking about) you train your mind to shut off the filters (of past experiences) it uses when you're not present to the moment.

You also train yourself to view things in a more objective manner - so when someone says something rude to you, you don't start analyzing it, putting it through every filter you have (e.g "what does this say about me?" or "shit this person does not like me"), you just become aware of what he/she said and don't 'take it personally'.

Furthermore, it helps you remain happy in you day to day life in general, as with more objectivism you stop getting angry because of stupid shit like LMR or traffic jams etc. because you develop your ability to just observe, and not react emotionally.
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I'm going to start trying this!
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 I agree, just recently thought about achieving permastate earlier today...

After some recent ideals about filtering the shit out of your life have been pounded in hard in my head I've come to the conclusion the most satisfying way to get the females you really want is through achieving permastate.

I just realize how fucking hard it is to do so... you rly need to let go of all the input in your life that is group think style... not that you cant experience it occasionally... but it has to become a silly little thought in your head that makes you giggle... not bring you down.

Perma-motherfucking-state.
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Yes, exactly - sorry I misunderstood. You notice the guy, notice that you've noticed him, and move on to whatever else you see. 

CANM wrote:
Maybe going a little further, if I see some intimidating looking dudes, instead of having the internetal dialogue that gets me anxious, I'd just look at and think "those are males. i notice they are males" and move on?

What happens when someone starts talking to you? Are you able to apply this still? 
jackbauerctu wrote:
Yes, that's it Just keep doing this drill as much as you can stand. It's basically just LOOK at things, but by doing these steps it ensures we are actually looking and really seeing things. 

The purpose of this is to unstick attention which is normally fixed in one place or fixed internally. If we have to stop doing it to cross the street or to avoid some intimidating dudes or answer your phone, it's not going to undo everything. Just do it when you can and as much as you can.

Length of time doesn't matter. I walk a lot so that allows me to do a lot in one go, but if you only get a minute or two at a time, that's fine too. It can even be done with your office or place of work. Chair, computer, lamp, pen, colleague, door, window etc etc. 

Awesome that you will try it. Any questions let me know, but you should notice becoming more extroverted quite quickly. If you do this a lot in one go, you may even notice what kind of feels like a mental 'pop' as your attention gets unstuck and really focuses externally. It's hard to describe but you'll know it if you get it
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jackbauerctu

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 I'm encouraged by the responses. 

This is similar to mindfulness meditation - or just the process of presence achieved in meditation BUT with one key difference: 

One can be present but not actually be noticing anything or communicating with his environment. 

When you are introverted, your attention tends to stop short of what you are looking at. An example is being super tired and opening the fridge to look for food. You see the fridge, but at the same time you don't really see it. Your attention sees the outline but not the detail. It is an introversion and your attention is stuck internally. 

So, it's not just about being present. By noticing that you have noticed the objects in your environment, you begin to truly see them and then extrovert. Meditation alone does not help you do this. 

Meditation in fact has the risk of lowering your level of action. This drill accomplishes the benefits of meditation without the risk of becoming complacent or 'accepting what is, rather than changing it' that meditation has. 

JB
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