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#61
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Fuck yeah!

1/4

DONE!


3 to go  :)
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Tyler wrote a good post on sincerity on the forum.
My favorite bit:

Another test of it is approach anxiety: if you're feeling anxiety it's because you have BAD INTENTIONS and WANT somethin from them, and are afraid you will not GET IT. If you're just offering value, why would you care at all?


and

"You WANT her, but you don't NEED her." #FreedomFromOutcome
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#63
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every girl is a chance to improve your game
treat all girls the same, Dont only open hot ones. Open all to get as many reference experiences as possible. The more reference experiences you get in the shortest amount of time possible, the faster you learn the game.

Julien wisdom.
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I saw I conquered I came...or not

So yeah I went out last night and got laid (#14). I applied the Julien stuff i.e. It´s better to be seen with unattractive girls than alone, hang out with even ugly girls as a warm up group to get in the "social with strangers" head space, open all girls and treat them all like tens, get as many reference experiences as possible to learn fast.

LR friday 14.6.2013

It´s been a while again since I´ve been able to combine those two letters here. It´s always nice.
I tend to make too big a deal out of every success so I wont be as detailed this time.. I hope.

For about 2 weeks I´ve been almost more motivated than ever to get out and get laid. During these 2 weeks I´ve accidentally
ended up spending a lot of time with this 9 girl at my work place. She´s a bit of a bimbo but a lot of fun and a party girl. She´s actually great company and
it´s been a much needed experience to make friends with a hot girl. It´s good for your entitlement, especially since there is a little bit of a spark since she´s a horny one ;)

Oh yeah.. I broke up with my 2-year-long fb Red finally.  Actually I havent just contacted her in 6 weeks and she hasnt either like she has before. So its over and last time it seemed like
she was ready for that too. So I hope there´s no hard feelings.

Being finally a free man + being quite horneehh + summer + drunk on a friday = good times.

It´s so much easier to just open all fat and ugly girls too when youre hornier so that helped. And game in general is so much easier when you just enjoy girls and youre in such a good mood cause the very thought of sex feels like 16/10 on awesomeness scale.

I´m rambling like hell here..

I listened to Tyler´s segment on Transformations and he said "I see guys walk up to girls after years and years and their whole identity is tied in how the girl responds. If the girl responds well, they feel good. If she doesnt respond well, their state just crushes immediately."
This caused a big click in my mind that helps me a lot: Your identity can not be changed by any person you walk up to. That person simply cant change who you are. Therefore you are like a solid rock going around the club. And since eventually its you as a man that the girls go for... I´d say that´s a pretty good recipe for confidence.

So I applied that and the fun man point that Tyler made in his "Being the fun guy / ultra responsible guy video". I was also feeling really good and present which massively helps with opening.
A group of 5 30-35 yo. women came to us on the dancefloor early in the night. We were pretty out of it first but they forced into making funny moves and group dancing so we got into the vibe.
I treated it as a warm up set and treated them like they were hot girls. This helped massively to get in the vibe of the club which is essential to success. I often tend to spend my nights very stifled though Im not that aware of it. Whats more important this 10-15 minute session helped to get comfortable with hanging out with girls in general in the environment. When you get used to that --> entitlement.

I was drunk enough to not remember everything anymore.. but I got comfortable opening a lot on the df I think and after a while I did hand of god on a tall girl in a group of girls dancing. She complied happily. She was very drunk but not too drunk. She was sucking my face after 5 seconds and had a hard time not to do it. After a while she took off to meet her friends.
This really got me in the zone since she was fairly hot.

Later in the night she walked back onto the df and I grabbed her (run the train = always takes the interaction to a new level). This time it was even more on. It was obvious she was as DTF as possible so I moved her a few times, talked a bit and after 5 mins "I got some leftover drinks from tonight at my place. Wanna go?"  Yes.
The 2nd hottest girl I´ve had the pleasure to fornicate with this far. And the loudest and craziest ever teeth thumbs up   Dear lord, I wish to see her once more to record  that (not that I do that..)
Once again I noticed how sex with a hot girl versus average girl is massive. It´s so awesome. (Btw she was celebrating her 19th birthday thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up )

I was thinking why she chose me cause she was making out with other guys too. I´m not sure if I was just the one to make the moves or if my being all-around social (or was I?) helped. Anyway, overwhelming the environment instead of letting that overwhelm you is a must.

AWesome night. So eager to get back to do this again!
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"The analogy about entitlement from pulling a 40 year old woman is bang on, I remember having a similar epiphany on this a few years ago.
I remember how much this helped me because I previously thought I needed to bring my "A Game" with the hottest girls, but when I thought back and took stock of all my successes I realized it was when I didn't give a fuck and treated the 10 with sloppy game similar to how I treated a fat girl.

Later the conclusion I came to was that the ultimate way to pull a 10 is to be "having so much fun you literally FORGET / DON'T NOTICE she's a 10" since you're so immersed in amping your own state.

Fun is the ultimate equalizer with hot women since in a club if you're having more fun than them, you have more value LOL. Which is crazy to think about but for whatever reason that's how it works."

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Vacation times. 3 weeks.
Kinda my last chance for a while to make it work..




Tue 18.6. 2013

I need to vent somewhere. I´m feeling exactly like Homer right now.
Can´t get anything right though I´m putting in 12 hour days..
Well.. you just do it.
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Wohoo!

I decided to do some free cases first to get references for my company in order to get credibility.

I made 3 calls today and got my first "real client". It´s not money yet but it´s a semi-big step.
FREE is a magic word. I learned it from this guy:


SO, my first success of some sort:
-> First REAL client with an HTML site (which I need to figure out how to make the changes to quickly, fuuuck)
-> First success from cold calling
-> My 2nd reference company for my website (which I´m finally 95% happy with)

I think the way I made the calls today was also good.
NO script this time:
- "Hi. It´s Ludvig. I do SEO and I could help you get more clients. First of all, did I call at a bad time?"

That´s it.  Having a friendly vibe and overcoming their natural objections and suspicions are big things too.

Now back to work..
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Mobile update.

FR 21.6.13
Its midsummer here. Nice.
This was a pretty basic drunken night.
I was not as not motivated to pull as last week so I might have lost a few opportunities because at the moment of going for the pull I started to hesitate or didnt lead the interaction forwards like I should as a man. This leads the girl to leave.
(This is a tough one to fix since when youre horny you tend to come up with genius solutions to any issues that hold you down)

Had lots of fun though, danced with a few hot chicks and lead one to the bar but I didnt want to pay 4e for 2 waters so that kinda busted the set. After the bar I wondered outside for at least an hour in a nice drunk social mood talking to everybody. Almost pulled one cute girl.

I went to this one interaction to help a guy gaming two 10s. They were really mean to him. As they were leaving us I said "They've already fucked enough" and I could hear the girls get angry. Win.

The most fun set was 2 girls with a guy. I had full momentum so I dint even notice the chode guy. I did my waffle with the girls. Then the guy said: "OK, Im going home. Ill see you on monday" and left. So I said to the girls: "So youre not getting penis tonight" . I was expecting a mad or offended reaction but instead they just stared at me blank. I said something about a 3-way too later as we talked. They were kinda testy all the time so it did not seem on at all. I went to the same bus with them anyway and sat in front of them. They got up to go sit away from me. "Come on you dont have to be that extreme" and she replied "No we need to have a chat". I heard them say "You have a boyfriend.."
So i guess they were actually considering. That was a positive reference experience all in all and the main thing I got was again:
Lesson: Saying general sexual things in every set seems to improve your chances considerably

Going out tonight sober. I try to keep in mind my main idea these days that strange people cant change who you are. Therefore negative reactions or positive reactions mean nothing. Its you as man that she tests for and thats what counts.
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A nice guide for day game :
http://www.rsdnation.com/pathtomastery/blog/daygame-tips-will-make-your-bed-rock
I´m finally considering doing it now since I want results now and getting comfortable talking to girls 24/7 is
what I want to achieve. Being comfortable with girls is a HUGE element in getting girls like Sean said.
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FR 22.6.13 Sat

Sober after a long break. I had a pretty rough night in BK.

I´m already doing my best in terms of looks and other basics so whatever the reason for this struggle was
I only focus on things that are in my control on both bad nights and good nights. And that´s reinforcing my confidence and frame.

I struggled massively with approaching so I decided to give 20€ to 92 if I dont do 10 approaches.
Result: I did it. But a better solution would be 5 girls in 5 minutes so you dont the environment running around getting negative social proof.
Instead you build momentum fast and get switched on.

Because I was just trying to approach and didnt succeed I fell in the trap of feeling l had no value in any girls eyes.
When this happens you always need to take a break and compose yourself. Become fucking solid with why you have value and HOLD
THE FRAME til the bitter end.

Which brings me to another lesson from last night..

I talked to some girls that were bitchy from the beginning. Turning these around comes down to holding your frame fucking hard.
As soon as you start to question your value because she thinks youre a loser youre done. You have to know better.
(or you can go the Alexander way with the 4 time rule)

Also I had this one conversation where we
started to have a small wittyness competition. I´m not the best at that so if I end up in that I should just take charge and start a new topic before it grows into an argument.

Another thing from this night was..

The hottest girls. The silent ones. Like Tyler says the best way to deal with these is massive self amusement. But when youre not in that state the second best way is
Brad´s way. He says the hottest ones test you. His style is "Oh, you´re quiet. That´s good I like my own voice. I had a great steak today. I just came to town yesterday so..."
(btw if you want I think using these girls to amp up your self amusement is great if all else fails)

Yesterday I ran into not having stuff to say so I had to give up soon. I will fix that though.
(One small tip for this was:
" Once you have started the conversation, you can keep going by making observations and just throwing statements, like "you look italian" or "you must be studying here". This will get her guessing why you said that. A general rule is to keep giving statements until she starts asking questions. Then you can do the same. " )

The last thing from yesterday was realizing again that not having default things to say to girls is my #1 sticking point. Counting on becoming talkative is not enough.
So before the next night I will fix that. I´ll put a reminder to make a list of like 5 things to fall back on smile

Lessons from tonight:
Having fun + feeling low value in the environment = does not work
Having fun + feeling high value in the environment = works
If you suck, realize youre getting blown out because you think youre low value
Hold the frame til the bitter end or get walked over
Use €€€  to build momentum
Plow with the hottest girls
Dont get into arguments
Get a default conversation pattern  (being talkative outside the sets is not enough cause you need to plow)
Practice plowing to be ready


Goddamn working on game is fun when youre motivated!

Time to work on making money now though..
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