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Grubz

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Join Date: 11/20/2012 | Posts: 21

This is my journal and field reports. I am an average dude with above average aspirations.
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Grubz

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Join Date: 11/20/2012 | Posts: 21

12/8/2012

Went to a small party. There were about 10 people total to chicks. First thing I do is greet the friends I know. The two girls I don't know so I introduce myself. I noticed that off the top everybody has a friendly vibe and that the two girls are friendly towards me, one moresoe than the other. We all chat and and play drinking games, not much happens. I don't do any overt gaming but I do speak my mind on shit and stray from a nice guy vibe I usually have. One of the chicks was talking about her ex and how he destroyed her property. I called her out and asked if she deserved it. She said no. Then I was able to call him a for doing it. Later we all went to a bar. There were a lot of dudes there not a lot of chicks so I mainly stayed in my somewhat large group and socialized among them. I was at a table talking to my bro and I was asking him if he noticed how one of the girls titties were looking so nice. He agreed with me. I think she may have been listening in and her parts of the convo. She then asked what we were talking about.

Me:We were talking about you.
Her: Was it something nasty?
Me:Nasty is an opinion.(or some lame shit like that. )
Her:blah blah
Me:blah blah ...something that leads away from being sexual

She was really wanting me to spice up the conversation but I strayed. We kept talking abit and she dropped how she was socially awkward after I started giving her shit on how she kept using fancy words and a expanded vocabulary, since she would use words which I understood but would never use outside of a term paper.


Sticking Points
-Sexualality. I was given a chance to be sexual and I side-stepped it. I really have to start seeing women as a potential lay. Which I don't do at this point, not sure if this is this is a result of past hopelessness or current labido. Either way I have to get this handled.

Lack of experience. Due to lack of experience I don't know much and I don't know what I should know.

References
-Calling girls out. It may not seem like much but doing this was drastically outside anything I would do in the past. She still could have been lying but thats not important. What is important is that I tried something I don't usually do and trying to calibrate and expand on it in the future.
-Girls want some "dirty" talk here and there in a conversation. Sexuality adds to a fun vibe.
-Asking a girl about living arrangements. There have been two times that I can remember where I have done this out of curiosity. Each time the chick being asked was slightly sketched out. For now I won't be doing this unless I am legitimately trying to setup logistics.

Plans
-I am going to cclean up my diet to see if it boosts my state noticeably.
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Grubz

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12/10/2012

I went to a bar with some friends. There was not a lot of people there. I mainly talked among my group. I made a little small talk here and there. Only thing I feel I accomplished was to become a little more comfortable actually being at a bar setting and talking to people there.

I plan on hitting a dance club or two this weekend.
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Grubz

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12/15/2012 -- Saturday

Started the night off playing some beer pong and drinking some rum at a friend's place. One chick and 4-5 other dudes. I feel I can't really do any agressive gaming in this situation mainly do to likely long term interactions. So I just try small stuff like very light flirting.
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After a bit we decide to hit up a bar. In the hall way my bro opens up some chick who was walking her dog. I also talk to her. Some chick walks by and my bro makes a comment on her nice pants. I look at him and state that's not what he really meant and that he was checking out her ass. The dog chick found this funny. We leave.
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The ride over was pretty fun and I learned a little more about how to vibe with females in general.On the way walking towards the bar a lot chicks on the street were eyeying me. Chode mode and not a single open. We get to the bar and I mainly stay in my group. There wasn't that many women there. We get opened by some British guy and we talk to him. It wasn't that eventful in the bar other than me building a new/better relationship with a dude that was in our group. We plan on going to a concert later this month.
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After we get back to the place we were playing beer pong I told my friend we should go to the pharmacy. We get there and browse a bit. We see some chick buying food. I open her and start deuching on her because of the food she was buying. Then I advised her on something better to get. Then there was some dude standing next to us and I opened him. We talked for a bit and he said he just got back from San Diego. He told us cali was nice and that since we were black it would be easier to acquire bitches than it was here do to less competition. I found it funny and am really taking note to check out cali. Apparently all I need is a fity cap. We then were about to get something and another dude came by. My bro opened him and we ended up convincing him to get something other than what he was intending to get. While paying for our stuff I opened the female cash register chick and talked about some bullshit.
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We walked to Checkers which is the lowest tier fast food chain in America. They have a late niight walk up window. This part of town is know for its gay population so we are surrounded by "fashionable men". The service is only slightly better than the food so our wait time to get to the window is 30 minutes. We start bitching about our decision to come to such a shitty place and somehow ended up talking to the guy behind us. We all started joking about how we all made a poor choice of late night food. The dudes around us also got involved. We find out he has a vehicle so we convince him he should have drove through the drive thru. He did and got his food before we did. Some other dudes came up to the window who weren't "fashinable men" and we start joking with them. They start talking about another place in Georgia and how we should go there. We leave and walk back. My other friends have went to sleep and we were locked out of the apartment complex. So the night concludes with a 4 mile walk back to my place which ended at dawn.

References
-Do not ignore the value of quality male friends.
-Sexual but not sleazy is how adults have fun. (I witnessed my friend make a really vulgar comment with absolutely no calibration which ended really awkward and really killed the vibe. While I made some comments on anal sex and it actually kept the vibe going.) I really want to see how extreme I can make this. Hopefully to the point where sex becomes nothing more than how adults have fun and interact with none of that other bullshit attached.
-Be careful when endorcing Man U with a British guy because he may be a fan of Man City.
-People love talking about the places they have been.
-People can be easily be persuaded if you can convince them that your choice in something is better. I have to test this out more and extrapulate.

Plans
-Continue with my diet change.
-Start doing cardio workouts in addition to the weight lifting I am currently doing.
-Learn how to become more naturally sexual but not sleazy.
-I want to eventually become that guy who brings 4-5 women to parties. I feel women are severely underepresented. It is my duty to make sure that they have a voice during social gatherings.
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Self doubt is for weak men. Weak men deserve nothing and get nothing except for pity and handouts. Choose to be a strong man -- choose the harder short term path, but easier long term path: BEING STRONG.

Believe before others do. Believe when others doubt. Believe when YOU doubt. You are a champ.

Tyler
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#4

Grubz

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Join Date: 11/20/2012 | Posts: 21

12/31/2012 -- Monday

New Years.

Went to a party and got drunk. Shit was so fun. I talk to a lot of chicks there.
I was talking to one group of chicks and one of them said I was cocky. Funny part about it I did not notice that I seemed cocky. I was actually just trying to have fun and felt very comfortable with myself.
I talked to a lot of dudes and I noticed that it was cool to just have fun and vibe with people.

References
-I noticed that if I am relaxed and energized I can be a really attractive guy. My friend was telling me how several girls at the party were in to me.
-SETTING BOUNDARIES makes girls attracted to you. At one point a chick kept calling me by the name of a famous dude and I walked off. She actually came to the room I was in to apologize to me.
-I did some weird stuff mentally when some girl told me I had a lot of swag. I felt I had an image to maintain and became slightly afraid of losing it. It didn't really cause any problems that night but I feel like in the future it could hender me. So for now I will try to be aware if its happening and try not to care about looking cool or whatever.
-Bitches love Sosa.
-I am able to be so much better and have more fun when I don't compare myself to other dudes.
-Talking to any race of girl is the same for me.
-Hooking up with a hooker at a party is looked down upon. I almost made out with one until I realized how fucked she was.
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Self doubt is for weak men. Weak men deserve nothing and get nothing except for pity and handouts. Choose to be a strong man -- choose the harder short term path, but easier long term path: BEING STRONG.

Believe before others do. Believe when others doubt. Believe when YOU doubt. You are a champ.

Tyler
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Grubz

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1/7/2013 -- Monday

Went to a friends house to watch national championship game. 2 chicks were there. I was sober so I was kinda stifled. One of my bros did a lot of talking to one of the chicks. He was the most at ease and expressive guy there. I noticed that the chick he was talking began to zone in on him. The get together was actually kind of boring. One chick was actually reading a reference book for half the game. I feel like it was partially my fault by not making shit more fun.

References
-Do not hate on other dudes who are getting it done. Learn from them and determine what underlying behavior they are doing right. In the situation of my friend having the most fun and being the most at ease guy there he got the most attention.
-Knowing about sports is a good way to meet dudes and acutually have something to converse over. This becomes way more noticeable when you are unable to participate in a conversation.
-WOMEN are FICKLE. I want to see them as responsible upstanding people but the more I am around them, the more I to have to lower my expectations. Maybe its because I haven't gotten enough experience...don't know.

Sticking Points
-Not enough experience. I need to go out more. Once a week isn't enough.
-I don't take enough risks with conversation. I don't talk enough.
-I am good with 1 on 1 conversation but I can't lead a group well.
-My cell phone is empty and my wick is dry.

Notes
-Meditation + diet change has left me in a way better day-to-day mood. Actually don't consider my seld as depressed anymore. Comedy and jokes are funnier than they used to be.
-Need to start going out sober. --Just saw a video by Julien about how being drunk doen't build your sober personality as much as going out sober does. I need this for future business endeavors.
-Start a 30 day challenge after I get enough money for bus tickets and entrance fees.(~2 weeks) I plan on 1-2 hours a night M-Th and full night  during the rest of the week.
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Self doubt is for weak men. Weak men deserve nothing and get nothing except for pity and handouts. Choose to be a strong man -- choose the harder short term path, but easier long term path: BEING STRONG.

Believe before others do. Believe when others doubt. Believe when YOU doubt. You are a champ.

Tyler
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Grubz

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1-19-2013 --Saturday

Went to a bar. I actually feel comfortable in that environment now. In the past I felt anxious and uncomfortable. I did not personally open a set but this one random black dude did pull me into a set. He was chatting up a chick. I joined in for a minute or two. I didn't say much but I atleast held eye contact. I left and met back up with my group. I spent a large part of the night talking to one of the chicks from my group. One of the guys from my group a said that we need to start hitting up the clubs and that we should wing for eachother. perfect. I currently have 2-3 guys from my social circle who are down to go out.

Notes---
-I need more female friends so I can become familiar with being surrounded by them
-Make sure my reports are objective as possible
-I am starting 6 weeks ultramind program on monday
-Go out more
-Vehicle coming soon
-Make sure my wittiness doesn't become a crutch that causes me to become 1 dimensional
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Self doubt is for weak men. Weak men deserve nothing and get nothing except for pity and handouts. Choose to be a strong man -- choose the harder short term path, but easier long term path: BEING STRONG.

Believe before others do. Believe when others doubt. Believe when YOU doubt. You are a champ.

Tyler
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PAIR360

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Join Date: 10/31/2012 | Posts: 15

 How old are you bro?
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Grubz

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I am 21.
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Grubz

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1/23/2013 -- Wednesday

--The main purpose of this post is reminder to self of where I was at during this time.

I am broke. Spent my last 2 dollars on a pack of cashews from a gas station. I have been eating canned beans for the last 3 days. Public transit screw me out of a dub. My energy levels are laughable and I didn't feel like getting out of bed this morning. Perfect. This temporary poverty has given me increased motivation to finish my degree and make some bank.

This allows me to see how far I have actually come. The lack of money doesn't stress me. It has even lead to me getting more exercise. I have stopped mentally complaining about the small stuff. I don't feel stressed when walking through crowds. I can still hold a conversation with a woman without spazzing. I feel that when you do stuff while feeling shitty it really shows how internalized stuff is and how much you have grown relative to where you used to be. I see state as a buff and a catalyst to growth.

-Although I still get some approach anxiety and I don't escalate. And I only go out on average 1 time a week. Gotta work on these

-I will be able to pay for entrance fees and transit real soon. I also need some clothes that will let me get into clubs with door policy. Food food food. I will also be able to actually choose my food better and eat sushi.

-The plan is to go out atleast 3x a week until I get a car. After that ....30 DAY CHALLLENGE!!!!

==This song really puts me in a good headspace along with making me feel pimp.


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Self doubt is for weak men. Weak men deserve nothing and get nothing except for pity and handouts. Choose to be a strong man -- choose the harder short term path, but easier long term path: BEING STRONG.

Believe before others do. Believe when others doubt. Believe when YOU doubt. You are a champ.

Tyler
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Grubz

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1/25/2013 -- Friday

Awesome awesome night. You truly never know what adventures happen any given night.

-My boy hit me telling me he's a little stir crazy and needs to get into something. Of course being a good friend I have roll with him. We head to hipster district part of town and go to a small bar/diner place. He orders two shots of tequila and we bounce.

-Then we head to another bar in another part of town to meet up with these two girls he knew. The place is pretty crowded. We get there and they are sitting at a table.  I introduce myself to the two of them and start chatting up the cuter of the two. They also had another friend there but I didn't say much to her. My bro wants to smoke so we go outside for a smoke. I start chatting up the doorman just having fun and being social. I also open up some dudes who are entering the bar. I head in and up stairs to take a piss. I open up some guys who are standing around it. After I finish I walk by some chick and I open her up and start talking. I am going down stairs when I see a dude I saw earlier who is talking to a chick. I start hyping him up but it turns out the chick was married. Looking for rings is not something I do. I assume every woman is available unless proven otherwise.

-I go outside to the back area where some picnic tables are set up and see these two guys standing talking to eachother. I start talking to them and telling them how they should be pulling bitches and shit. They call me out and told me to go hit up some chick who was sitting at a table with two dudes. Perfect. So I said "OK" and head towards the table and sit down right in front of the chick. She was cute. I immediately start talking to her. Words just come to mind and then they get said. A lot of what I was doing was nonverbal though. I was looking into her eyes and looking for something. I found what I was looking for. (I can't explain it any better than that shit was just too intuitive) We start thumb wrestling. Way too much fun. I started giving her shit about how she was cheating and trying to raise her thumb too high. Then I realized my hands were way bigger than hers and I did have too much advantage. We started playing around there verbally some more.

Then I remembered and realized there were two guys that were still sitting at our table. I looked at the guy in front of me and told him I didn't like his glasses and that they weren't very fanshionable. Dude started getting pissed. So kept on going. It had become my duty to inform this unfortunate guy on the flaws of his apperance. I even became upset with and called out his friend who was sitting next to me for allowing his friend to go out in public in such a condition. I even told the guy with the glasses that he should be thanking me for being so honest and caring about his well being so much.(Looking back I was being a complete dick even though I had good intentions.) The guy wanted to hit me with a right hook I could feel it coming. But I am not sure if it was because he was afraid I might fight back or because I was so calm and he didn't know what I was going to do. I had no intentions of fighting back. Plus I have never been hit by a stranger and kinda wanted to see what it was like. The chick was long gone by this time and I didn't really care. His friend and someone who worked there asked me to leave. I apologized to the guy since I realized how fucked up my actions appeared. Later I found out that the two guys had been buying the chick drinks all night. Whatever.

-Later I am at the bar and my friend is ordering shots for us. I chat up the bartender chick. She seemed bored. I was wondering if she found out about me talking shit earlier about one of the other bartenders while she was within ear shot. (I didn't realize that she had just served us earlier.

-I ended up singing chorus to "Bombs Over Baghdad" with two dudes who were in choir gowns. Shit was way too fun.

-The night ended and we head to a gas station. I bought some kids some cigars. I also talked to this homeless guy for about 20 mins. It was cool. I was telling him about my philosophy on homeless people and how he could allow for it to happen.

References
-My friend told me that I am brutally honest when I drink. I really want to move towards being this way and see how it is in everyday life. I already try my best to not bullshit people.
-My verbals have so much potential. I was able to open anybody and not run out of stuff to say. I have to get to the point where I can do this sober.
-Fighting can happen. I apparently talk a lot of shit sometimes so I should be aware of this. At a more ratchet establishment this could lead to me getting attacked by a group of people.

-Race is at the point where it is not a factor to me. The only difference ion women to me is how attractive they are. I remembered how much people identify with their race and otherstuff. Then I actually spent 5 minutes laughing at the fact that I completely forgot I was black. It just seemed so comical for some reason.
-I have to remember to acknowledge other people when I am in mixed sets. When I was at the picinic table it almost lead to a fight. This could have been avoided by atleast acknowledging the other guys instead of giving the appearance of taking their girl and verbally attacking one of them.

-I noticed how attractive a chick is doesn't determine how much she will be into me. A more attractive chick in the group may respond better to me.

-Try not to disrespect the bartenders and other people who are working at places.
-Going out can be way too much fun.
-Holding eye contact is like putting game on easy mode.

Sticking Points
-Have actualy begone to escalate a little with getting more physical but I can still do better.
-I have to be more sexual. I only really flirted with one chick.
-I need to get to point where I have a lot of fun sober. I have a little but not as much as I would want.
-I talk a lot of shit when drinkning. Not really sure how it is going to pan out in the future but lets see where it goes.
-I seemed to mainly open mixed sets. I have to open chicks who are solo more.
-I did not try to get any numbers. I was to busy just having fun.
-I have only gone out with other people. I need to start going out solo and sober.


Notes
-I have to continue going out. I finally have had some experience of having fun at a bar.
-Diets going great. I actually have more energy than I have had in the past and my labido is picking up. I like where this is going. Also dancing has become really enjoyable.
-I have only been going to bars. I have to start going to some clubs.
-I have been keeping eye contact with people more easily.
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Self doubt is for weak men. Weak men deserve nothing and get nothing except for pity and handouts. Choose to be a strong man -- choose the harder short term path, but easier long term path: BEING STRONG.

Believe before others do. Believe when others doubt. Believe when YOU doubt. You are a champ.

Tyler
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