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January 22nd, 2017
Beginner, 26, virgin, introverted, no social circle (whole life), getting into friend zone
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BKW

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Join Date: 02/21/2012 | Posts: 987

i joined this forum at 26 years old too.  i never felt in control of my dating life either.  it's all about taking action
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charmest

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Join Date: 07/30/2012 | Posts: 346

First of all, I want to wish all of you a Happy New Year 2013!
You've helped me on the one or other kind to get further. 

@bigjew629:

After your definition, I'd be anywhere between Chode and Noob! Not a social robot, but also not reading everything! I'm on my way, to find what's the right literature to read. I have to decide and now I stuck between, which of these books I wanna read: "Real World Seduction 2.0 (Swinggcat), Revelation (Venusian Arts) and The Physical Game/ Evolutions (Real Social Dynamics)". I don't want to read many products. Therefore, I'm researching, what could be the right thing for me. In Revelation (what I've started to read), there's a lot personality improvement material in it - except of the dating stuff. But there is written, you SHOULD be an AMOG! I think, they took it from you, RSD! :D

On some websites, there isn't RSD recommended. It's said, you first need an idea, if you're a newbie. This kind of idea you'd get with Canned Materials. I know, it's partly outdated. Then, use canned stuff and improve your own canned material. Then you can go on to Natural Game. Natural Game Products: Gambler, RSD, Vin DiCarlo, David and Swinggcat (for e.g.). The Attraction Code of DiCarlo (which I looked over) is nice. I didn't go to clubs with the pressure to get a girl. I'm more relaxed - thanks to Attraction Code.
"Rules of the Game" helped me very much! I couldn't imagine to approach anyone in the public. But with this pressure to do some tasks in that day or I won't get further, it helped me and my self-confidence.
In Real World Seduction 2.0, the fact to be the prize and not to push yourself down and the flirting part is great. I haven't read it yet. But at VA Forums, it was recommended to do so, if it's the way, it helps me. 
 
I've heard, that every community makes advertisement for their company: RSDnation for RSD, Venusian Arts Forum for Venusian Arts Products, The Attraction Forum for Love Systems' Products, ... , Stylelife Academy for Neil and so on. Actually, Style is bonded with Mystery - so why not going with Venusian Arts instead?


@BKW: I know to get in action. But: WHat to start with? How to talk? What to say? Which topics to talk about? Caring that it doesn't end in friend zone. I've heard that Flawless Natural and Foundations would teach to get this mindset and to know what to talk about. So, I mostly use situational openers and do Day Game. There, I can approach and see how it goes on.
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JohnM

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Join Date: 11/19/2012 | Posts: 661

 
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Will it be possible for me, without friends, to get HB10s? Or is it just a dream in the real-world?
There are a variety of good PUAs who can go out alone in a city they have never been to and get layed by HB10s. 

At the same time, when you lack the social skills to make friends you are unlikely to attract a HB10.
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JohnM

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@BKW: I know to get in action. But: WHat to start with? How to talk? What to say? Which topics to talk about? Caring that it doesn't end in friend zone. I've heard that Flawless Natural and Foundations would teach to get this mindset and to know what to talk about. So, I mostly use situational openers and do Day Game. There, I can approach and see how it goes on.
You don't have any friends. If some girl wants to be your friend that relationship could still help you. 
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charmest

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 So you mean, it's imposible to get a HB10, if I have no friends. Actually, I can't connect with people. Yes, I'm lacking social skills. I can approach, but nothing more. No chit-chat and nothing else. With anyone! I comment anything, whenever I see a possibility.
 What about this: I continue talking. I just need topics what to talk about!

What do you mean by: "You don't have any friends. If some girl wants to be your friend that relationship could still help you. " ?
Which girl want to be my friend? You mean a potential mate whom I approach?
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I just need topics what to talk about!
You ever try just speaking your mind? That is what I do. If nothing is on your mind I will tell them that too (my "line" for this = "I'm bored tell me a story"). Ask chode questions, make fun of her, make fun of the stuff around you anything it doesn't matter as long as you are not waiting eight years to say what you want to say. Then be physical and silly with her and she is hooked. Then sort out logistics (which I fail at lol). Then pull.

You can do this with any woman ever no matter who you know.

And stop reading so much content. It is time for you to buy into the fundamentals and take action. I want you to do a field report where you approach a chick within three seconds of checking her out, and when chatting with her, wait no longer than 10 seconds to speak your mind. Make the field report detailed and post it here. You are not allowed to post in this thread unless it is that field report. 
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charmest

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I say what comes in my mind. But women are passive then. Mostly, I talked philosophically. Nowadays, I try it another style. Like those stories, how I approached and so on. At the end, I don't have any idea, what to talk about with people in general. Sometimes I annoy people by what I say. Maybe, it is to offense.
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charmest

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 Today, I got 2 thoughts/deeds. I listened a bit to "Blueprint Decoded" and I have realised that I'm introverted and I force myself to talk to other people. It's unnatural, because I don't know what to talk about.

I have seen in the uni library that some guys were flirting with some girls. I always land in the interview mode. I talked with a girl who studies with me and it was an interview. I asked, she answered. I asked again, she answered again.
I'm lacking social skills. How to learn & approach it?

Some time ago, I had the courage to approach any stranger. But now, I don't have it any more. The competition is huge!
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 Have you tried just hanging out with guys!  I mean hanging out,  watching football and observing how they cut up?  If you did you would end up being an Omega. 

I think you need some male role modles.  Not so much going out and talking to women.  Go out and just find some guys to hang with.  whether its football or whatever.  You need a social group to leanr what alphas actually do.  You arent goign to get it from a book.  

Is there a RSD facegroup in your area?  seriously dude.  You need to man up.  Something blocking you.  I don't know what iut is but they way you talk isn't the normal man banter.  You need to learn that first.  Step zero so to speak.  I think all the theoiry in the workld won't help you until you start hanging around some good time guys.

I did that way before I got into pick up.  I know how you feel.  I found soem of the loudest alphas I could find and stuck around them.  Soemtitmes they treated me like shit but I knew I was learning things I didn't get growing up with only a single mom.  Your missing that role model or had real shitty ones.

Being an omega will is otugh but if you can take it you will earn your rank soon enough.  Find something whther it be martial arts or just some guys that hang out together.  You will get hazed.  but it will be wortth it.
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^eagle^ wrote:
 Have you tried just hanging out with guys!  I mean hanging out,  watching football and observing how they cut up?  If you did you would end up being an Omega. 

I think you need some male role modles.  Not so much going out and talking to women.  Go out and just find some guys to hang with.  whether its football or whatever.  You need a social group to leanr what alphas actually do.  You arent goign to get it from a book.  

Is there a RSD facegroup in your area?  seriously dude.  You need to man up.  Something blocking you.  I don't know what iut is but they way you talk isn't the normal man banter.  You need to learn that first.  Step zero so to speak.  I think all the theoiry in the workld won't help you until you start hanging around some good time guys.

I did that way before I got into pick up.  I know how you feel.  I found soem of the loudest alphas I could find and stuck around them.  Soemtitmes they treated me like shit but I knew I was learning things I didn't get growing up with only a single mom.  Your missing that role model or had real shitty ones.

Being an omega is tough but if you can take it you will earn your rank soon enough.  Find something whther it be martial arts or just some guys that hang out together.  You will get hazed.  but it will be worth it.

Like it or not we are nothing but a bunch of smart animals.  watch this movie  
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