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ApuPimpin FR Round 2

I have been out of the game for a while. Now I'm back and dedicated, I'm going to start a new FR thread. I have learned a lot about myself within my taking off period. I also am not starting like a newbie. I still have some skill.

My biggest dilemma where I live is that there are only 1-5 sets to open a night. Average night 3 sets. So while most of you guys have the luxury of 5-6 warm up sets, I don't even have that for the night. I see it as when I can pull consistently with my situation I will be elite in the game. Additionally, I can't bounce from set-to-set within 30 seconds. I see a set, then it could be another 10-15 mins before I even see another set. I have to get creative with building my social momentum.

I am also focusing on building an environment of social proof and fuck buddies around me. Where I live on certain nights everyone goes to the same venues. I pretty much see everyone every weekend. It's kind of awkward when you see chicks you already banged. Sometimes even nerve wrecking when you have slight feelings for the girl. Conquering these emotions is what builds strength and character. I need to conquer my emotions too.


In my recent 2 months of going out I've had a few makeouts and touched some vaginas. I don't count sex with a former fuck buddy a lay. I did get a HB9.

With the HB9. It was interesting, I was never be able to contact her with the method of communication she gave me. She just wouldn't respond. I kept seeing her out like 4 times before I managed to get her to hang out with me. She always had like a bunch of dudes she knew trying to get her. I guess since I have some confidence issues, I assumed I had no chance. I kept gaming and the alcohol helped me be dominant and go harder physically. Needless to say I ended up getting her.

The way I met her was interesting. On a day off I went to a venue to game (non traditional venue) and I was really nervous, completely outside of my comfort zone. I was tipsy so I was making moves right away. Within the first 10 mins I isolated her and was going for the make out. She didn't make out with me. I was holding her hand and all kinds of shit. She was with like 4 guys. I used my crutch to open "Can I bum a cigarette." I use that a lot. I wouldn't have the balls to approach 4 guys and 1 girl otherwise. Anyways my main point. I pushed myself to go somewhere out of my comfort zone. I would have NEVER gone to this venue to game. I did and 2-3 weeks later I banged this amazingly hot chick.

I ended up having some small feelings for her and she turned into a mind-fuck. No relationships for me. She is gone but will be returning soon. I still kind of like her. I hope to get some other chicks to get my mind off of her before she comes. I know right now if I see her out when I game it will throw me off. Since where I live is so small, I WILL see her 90% of the time when I go out. I established too deep of a connection when we hung out.


-Apu
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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ApuPimpin

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xeofreestyle left a message in one of my posts that I want to keep reading and ingrain in my head.

From this thread: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/256257

Quote:
Keep in mind there is not a "proper order" Many of these things can happen at different times in the interaction or not even at all and it can still go good.

1. Go Out.
2. Warm up by approaching girls with the only criteria for success being "Did I approach". You should focus on Freedom of outcome aka not worrying if it goes good or bad. Even if your second set goes worst than the first that is OK. You should small chunk it and feel good for taking action, not the result.
3. Notice bad behavours you are making while warming up. Such as not talking loud enough, not talking man to woman, Looking for the girl to contribute too early in the interaction.
4. Focus on you're tonality and eye contact as you deliver your opener.
5. If you are not talking loud enough, the girl will say "What?"
6. Talking Man to Women means use subcommunication. If you talk about generic things, there will be no tension and you will get "nice to meet you" from the girl.
7. 90 /10 Rule -> On average you need to lead the conversation for the first 3 minutes before the girl will start contributing. You should be leading regardless.
8. Cut the Space - > Talk closer to the girl,
9. Get Physical. This could happen at the start or later in the interaction, ideally sooner. Get the girl comfortable with your touch, so kissing and beyond seems natural.
10. Statement of intent and then go for the kiss. Or just go for the kiss, you judge what is best.
11. Isolate the girl.
12. Lead the girl to different parts of the club.. "I'm thirsty, lets go to the bar", "I'm hot, lets go outside for a sec"
13. Seed the pull " I'm really hungry, we should get something to eat later" "God I love the new Wii I just bought, its super fun"
14. Pull the girl -> Give her a plausable excuse to leave with you, even try to move her outside the building first if you have too. or "Lets go" (No reason)
15. Try up to 4 times with the same girl
16. You're goal is to spend time with the girl (hours), not doing 5-10 min sets. Choose the one you like the best, with the best logistics and go for it

If you finish talking with a girl and are going to approach a new set.
-Where is your focus? Your focus is on the next hot you see around you.
-Reduce reaction time (Less than 30 seconds)
-Freedom of Outcome aka make moves, it doesn't matter if they are the right moves. Just Go!
-Build Social Momentum
-Self Entertainment

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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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FR: Saturday 11/24/2012
Working on not drinking or minimizing drinking to a minimum. Only had 2 beers the whole night, so I did not have alcohol as a crutch.

Went out and it was DEAD. Hardly a single person out. There were 2 sets.

Set 1:
Saw drunken tourist chicks not even that attractive dancing like asses. I was telling them that I'm jealous of their dance moves. They hardly responded to me and I didn't want to even talk to them anyway. I was just trying to get a warm up in.

Set 2:
Saw these girls sitting down. One looked like a girl that I hit on well over a year ago. I know she has a b/f now. I figured this is a warm up and one of the single chicks is really cute. As I approach I notice that I also know one of the girls, ended up being sisters with the cute girl. The cutest one is the one I never met. It was kinda like a fresh approach because I never really talked to these girls. My issue was that I had too much of a friendly approach. It was my first real set, and I didn't have the alcohol crutch or social momentum. I mean they liked me so much they used me to get rid of some guys who came in and started gaming after I was in set. It was just 3 chicks and me.

I need to start focusing on the target. My usual issue I subconsciously feel like I don't deserve the hot girl. It's weird because when I'm not gaming I genuinely feel like a girl is lucky to be in my company. I am better than most of the guys out there. The problem is that those feelings don't appear when I'm gaming.
Another issue was not showing intent and escalating on the girl I liked. I did tell her she was cute and there was random touching but nothing sexual. I was reaction seeking of her and she wasn't showing any reactions. Here is the part that kills me. So the other two girls make a joke out of nowhere of me and the cutie hooking up. It was something along the lines of me taking her right now to go and hook up. The cutie said with a stern voice, another day (hinting it's not happening). I then looked at my watch and said well in 15 mins it's tomorrow (midnight). The girls started laughing and the cutie said "that was a good one." Now I didn't capitalize on their comments. Maybe because I didn't escalate the vibe and the tension between me and the cutie. Since we were outside I didn't know how to extract her on her own. These are excuses and I needed to get creative. Usually being tipsy helps, but I need to do this sober.

My conversations were kinda fun, definitely better than the other guys in set. But I was a good bit logical. Not enough flirting. That is why I wasn't feeling the vibe for isolation. I didn't know how I could have extracted her. I wasn't drinking so wouldn't use the bar as an excuse (and I had 2 beers on the table).
But I have yet to share my biggest fuck-up. I tell the cutie to take my number (trying distant light's method of having them take your number and text you theirs). So she does and I tell her to text me something cute. I go use the restroom while she is texting me and I get the message "it's midnight." Right back to the joke with the sexual reference. I was just thrown off because her lack of showing interest in person. I was finding it hard to escalate in front of the other girl and her sister.

I texted her this morning but no response.

Night Evaluation:
Good:

- Second set I held attention and I got 3 girls to hang out with me for the whole night. They were comfortable and relaxed with me. They even used me to get rid of some guys.
-I only drank two beers the entire night. I'm starting to ween off alcohol as a crutch to gaming.

Bad:
- No escalation. No sexuality. No creating tension. Not taking chances. Not pushing the interaction forward.

- I got an amazing hint from the hot chick and I was too intimidated to push forward. I subconsciously felt like I didn't deserve the cute girl. I was too much of a "friend."

I was talking to one of my friends about the interaction. He got on my case because I got a "green light" and I didn't go for it. He wasn't there though to see the interaction. I feel the need to smoothly transition to the sexuality. It wasn't coming out.

I told him that you got to make mistakes to learn. He agreed, but then he told me if you do not learn from your mistake the first time you are an idiot. You cannot move forward making the same mistake over and over again. And he was busting on my excuses. You only fuck up the chances you don't take.

FR: Sun 11/25/2012
I was walking back to work and I see this hot tourist taking a picture right outside. She starts walking after taking the picture and I yell after her "Do you want me to take a picture of you?" She kept walking. I didn't know if she spoke english (could have spoken spanish). Apparently when I turned to walk into the store she had turned around to look at me (someone watching told me).

My lesson, stop her and get her attention. Then talk to her.
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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xeofreestyle

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Not every girl will show you IOIs. The hot girl in the 2nd set was probably getting attracted by the fact that you came off normal compared to the other guys that approached them. You also deflected that shit test with the "well in 15 mins its midnight".

You know for a fact she liked you when she texted you "its past midnight" which basically is proof the girl is into you (IOI). She might just be shy about showing it around her friends.

All you needed to do was stay with the hot girl + friends and keep talking about anything you want. Continue to build comfort with the hot girl and her friends. Move them around to different parts of Bar or where ever you were at. Use excuses like  "I'm thirsty lets go to the bar! "and then go grab some water at the bar. Or tell them you want to check something out on this side of the bar and lead them to follow you. Get them used to following you around the venue.

Ask the hot girl how she got here, and figure out logistics in your own head if it is possible to pull. Then seed the pull with something. Use any non-sexual excuse you want. And just see what happens.
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I pretty much see everyone every weekend. It's kind of awkward when you see chicks you already banged. Sometimes even nerve wrecking when you have slight feelings for the girl. Conquering these emotions is what builds strength and character. I need to conquer my emotions too.





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Actually I did lead all of them to a different venue. I also found out they were all driving together.

I guess I should have tried some how to isolate the target.


xeofreestyle wrote:
Not every girl will show you IOIs. The hot girl in the 2nd set was probably getting attracted by the fact that you came off normal compared to the other guys that approached them. You also deflected that shit test with the "well in 15 mins its midnight".

You know for a fact she liked you when she texted you "its past midnight" which basically is proof the girl is into you (IOI). She might just be shy about showing it around her friends.

All you needed to do was stay with the hot girl + friends and keep talking about anything you want. Continue to build comfort with the hot girl and her friends. Move them around to different parts of Bar or where ever you were at. Use excuses like  "I'm thirsty lets go to the bar! "and then go grab some water at the bar. Or tell them you want to check something out on this side of the bar and lead them to follow you. Get them used to following you around the venue.

Ask the hot girl how she got here, and figure out logistics in your own head if it is possible to pull. Then seed the pull with something. Use any non-sexual excuse you want. And just see what happens.
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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So there was this chick that I thought I had in the bag. She was playing a few games but I got her to agree to a day 2. We were drunk in the club before getting all freaky....touching her vagina and all kinds of shit. Anyways I'm at the area of her place to get directions and she doesn't pick up the phone. I try a few times in a 15 min period and no response. I gave it some time drinking one at a bar in the area.

Got fucking stood up. I re arranged my night schedule to make this happen
She agreed and this seemed solid. I'm going to delete this cunts number from my phone and remove her from Facebook. I refuse to be disrespected like this.
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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2 hours later she texted me twice apologizing to me, haven't responded yet

Telling me she fell asleep... I dunno if it is bullshit or not
Seems genuine, but I'm still annoyed
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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FR: Friday 11/30/2012

Chicks from last Friday texted me to go to Karaoke. The one with the girl who gave me the hint, and I didn't capitalize on it. So I went out with them and accidently took them to a strip club. I told them we were going to a Spanish bar, and little did I know they now added strippers. It was pretty funny actually.
So I was gaming my target and she was playing hard to get .I mean I like her, but maybe this chick is like relationship type girl or whatever. I tried some escalation but she is just so stiff and tight. So eventually I decided to bounce on them and go game at one of the clubs. I felt my progress being stagnant there. Plus I didn't get any experience approaching.I wasted so much time with them till like 1:30 AM, when I went to the club I couldn't make anything happen. My game was off. There were some hot girls in the club that I've never seen too. Those girls I guess were being harassed all night (ratio was shit) they were blowing off all guy left and right.

I ran into a fuck-buddy who was drunk as shit. She was pulling bullshit demanding I buy her driniks. She goes to the bar and orders drinks and tells me to pay for it. I refuse and walk away. I go back to her again and she tells me how she wants to "Punch me in the face" dude this girl was barely able to stand up. She then proceeds to cock-block me with two hot tourists. She tells them some shit about me. Then when I talk to them later they keep pulling the other one away from me. Fucking ridiculous.

Oh the girl who stood me up was apologizing. I was talking to her, I dunno I'm not going to initiate the meet. She was then dancing on and off with her ex. I don't care about that. I just want the punani. So her dancing with him didn't bother me.

I consider last night an unproductive night. I don't know what I could have possibly learnt from last night.
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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 Why don't you move to a bigger city?  Seems like the smallness of yoru town is holding you back.  
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FR-LR: Saturday 12/1/2012

There was a big event down here. A friend and I got one of the waitresses at a bar we were at to come and join us. The bar was near the event. She was cute, and while working every chance she got she use to hang out with us and avoid going to the other customers. She was crazy in the head though and after I noticed she had nasty nails. I didn't get anywhere with her.

So My buddy worked at one of the night venues I game at. So after the event I took him to work and he got me in for free. I'm working the venue. I'm not "lording" the club like I would like. I'm going back and forth just flirting with girls all over the place. Some interactions better than others but nothing biting.

2 of the 3 girls I met up with the night before (Friday) was there. My target from that Friday night wasn't there. Her older sister was dancing with me. She was working to get my attention. The exact same time she's telling me how her sister doesn't like me. She starts saying a bunch of shit to get a reaction out of me. I just had the attitude, "ok she doesn't like me, that's fine." I was ready to move on with my life. Partially because I don't give a fuck. This definitely shocked her. She was trying really hard to get a reaction out of me. I was dancing with this chick but she really smelled. I'm talking about serious body odor. I really wanted to tell her but I had no idea a nice way to tell her that. I've been unusually honest with women recently.

So the other girl the third one from that group, I talked to for a bit periodically. I figured I could start gaming her. I just could not find them for shit sake in the venue. I was searching all over. This isn't a big place. Finally towards the end of the night I run into her. She just comes up to me and bites me in the face. So from there, I extract quickly. I realize that she was responsible for giving a ride to the smelly girl I was dancing with earlier. I just went back to the venue to pick up smelly and take her home. After I drop smelly home, Apu's magic happened. :)

So my second lay back in the game and both girls were VERY attractive. It's weird like I almost have more fun with the girl after I bang her (in terms of interaction) compared to before. It's like we get closer. And when I pull girls for the lay I take them to places that represent me. I make them experience a bit of my world and personality. I like banging in the outdoors. I enjoy giving them an experience that they cannot get anywhere else.
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"Understand: It is within your power to set your own price. How you carry yourself reflects what you think of yourself. If you ask for a little, shuffle your feet and lower your head, people will assume this reflects your character. But this behavior is not you-it is only how you have chosen to present yourself to other people"
Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power"

“If you are not yourself, if you surrender your personality, you have nothing left to give the world. You have no pleasure, no use, nothing which will attract and charm me, for by the suppression of your individuality, you lose your distinctive character.”

Edward Wilmot Blyden (1832 – 1912) Liberian statesman

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