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November 28th, 2014
What does it mean to be "free from outcome"?
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Resmat

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Theoretically I understand freedom from having any outcome in mind but what does that truly mean. How does one go about attaining "freedom from outcome"? is it just going out a lot and getting rejected until you reach a certain threshold of not giving a fuck? 
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Paul Kemp

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By not validating the girl.
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Swell

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 i wanna extend this topic with the "difference between freedom from outcome x clearon your intent" approach...should be interesting 
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JohnLocke

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You can think of it as getting "numb" to what girls think or say about you because you have approached so many of them that you truely don't care. For some people, including naturals, they are free from outcome because they actually have so many girls that they could easily fuck, so why would they care if a couple girls reject them?. However you don't actually need that if you have a higher level of thinking, which I think is what RSD is trying to teach. You are enough, you don't need a girl's validation because you ARE the man.
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Paul Kemp

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You want her but you don't need her.
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iznogold

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Approach so many girls that even if you lose some of them or the majority of them you wont care because you will have some success to focus on.
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Gravity

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means you go in for no other reason then to see the girl naked, if she rejects you you genuinely don't give a fuck that shes gone, you want her but you dont NEED her.
that is freedom from outcome
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dcampo3

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freedom of outcome -- Not giving a fuck , have fun
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xeofreestyle

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Resmat wrote:
Theoretically I understand freedom from having any outcome in mind but what does that truly mean. How does one go about attaining "freedom from outcome"? is it just going out a lot and getting rejected until you reach a certain threshold of not giving a fuck? 
No, You can have freedom of outcome with your very first set of the night if you want. It is not something you build up like social momentum.

Freedom of outcome simply means you don't care if you get rejected and you are NOT TRYING to win her validation. You are just approaching and talking with whatever comes into your head. You are NOT trying to think of ways to convey value, you are just talking/doing, and being in the moment. You do not have some agenda, you are just rolling up and being you.
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S.Plissken

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Paul Kemp wrote:
You want her but you don't need her.
Wait holy shit why hasn't anyone said this to me before? I was kind of having difficulty with this concept as well until I saw this here and everything just clicked.

Holy shit.
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 You have no emotional investment in the result of your interactions with women. Her reactions to you aren't going to cause you to experience any emotional swings. Ex: You don't get excited when a hot girl is loving you just as you don't get upset/angry if she isn't into you. Your mind is completely "free from the outcome" of the interaction, whatever it may be. 
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