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richie rich

richie rich

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hey spike i think thats a good idea. it doesn't seem like you're going out and having any fun.

going out should be about YOU celebrating your own life either by yourself or with your friends. When you're with a girl don't let her talk about stupid shit and waste her time. talk about you and your passions or ask her questions about herself that will give you a better understanding of if she is a good fit for you.

one of the instructors always says, game yourself not the environment. I have to agree. Being in "state" is more important than having "good game"
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richie rich

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and all "state" is in my mind is being present (aka not thinking about stupid bullshit) and enjoying yourself.

One thing I will ask myself at night sometimes if it is turning out to be a shitty night is...how can I make this fun? 

another thing I will do if I feel out of it...and me and my friends do this a good amount....find the hottest girl in the club and approach her. 2 rules...you have to tell her she's the hottest girl in the club and you have to ask her for her #.

that's a good exercise.
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Macavity

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Spike@ Wrote:
btw j.m.u.l.v. is incredibly good. has way better game than tyler.


Actually just joined his forum now. What makes you say its way better? Would have thought after all these years of pushing it Tyler would have been way up there at the top..

Also the stuff you wrote on meditation was good
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Yea but is jmoolv a real person or an android?
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Make sure you still take personal responsibility for yourself, dudes seem to always be looking for more and more people to give them what they want and need, which in the end is futile.
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AustinCC

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Spike@ Wrote:
his level of technical skill is higher and he doesn't have all these weird internal battles that tyler does (like approach anxiety and supplication weirdness). I can tell he is more entitled than tyler. The girls in his rotation are INCREDIBLY hot, all dime pieces. When he sat and talked with us for an hour he brought some girl over who he was fucking and she was much hotter than carly (tyler's girl) and he completely didn't give a shit about her. We talked about pickup right in front of her and what he does to pick up girls. He also demo'd in front of us on a really difficult set with a girl who was non-compliant, with her friends, walking to the hotel bar. Her initial reaction was bad but he somehow magically flipped her and made her sit down with him. What was even more impressive was that her friends were initially defensive, somehow realized that jmul is not to be fucked with and even they became passive and started dancing while they wait for the 'cool guy' to finish talking to their friend. 

Here are my notes from talking with him:

- You don’t have to smile
- Upon opening go for compliance or non-compliance
- Emotional state shouldn’t change when you open
- Trust that you are “the guy,” “the shit”
- You can fake it till you make it
- Assume you have control and she likes you
- Revelations book
- Engage with same energy level
- Frame: I’m the shit I can get any girl I want
- Frame: You’re above the girl but not in a condescending way
- Frame: You’re the one choosing the girl
- Vibe
 


i think people forget that there's tons of guys out there that are good at game that have nothing to do with rsd. I think one of the reasons people like myself and j m u l v got so good quickly was partially because of the variety of different training methods and ideologies we filtered through before learning about rsd. although, from what i've heard, he's on another level. as my wings put, no aa and goes for the hottest girls. I think just going for hotter girls will definitely jump almost anyones game. 

although i definitely still have some supplication issues every once in awhile, i think if i get the chance to consistantly go out, my wings and i will hit that level, and then i'll diverge into a different branch of social dynamics, because i don't have his or josh's sex drive. 

Macavity, if you have questions or w/e it's a good place to ask questions because most of the posters have ginormous amounts of experience and someone like myself, josh or jmonkey will be able to answer your questions pretty fast. 

Still I'm not hating on rsd by any means. What i get from rsd is something else, especially when it comes to problems outside of game, or current issues, because owen and i have very much the same game issues, except his life experience and work ethic are lightyears beyond what i've done. Plus there's still a good number of posters here that I read from time to time. 
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no aa and goes for the hottest girls. I think just going for hotter girls will definitely jump almost anyones game. 

although i definitely still have some supplication issues every once in awhile, i think if i get the chance to consistantly go out, my wings and i will hit that level, and then i'll diverge into a different branch of social dynamics, because i don't have his or josh's sex drive. 

Macavity, if you have questions or w/e it's a good place to ask questions because most of the posters have ginormous amounts of experience and someone like myself, josh or jmonkey will be able to answer your questions pretty fast. 



Ahh didnt know you were on his forum also. Yeah cheers dude. Already asked a few questions there. I love RSD but the forum here sucks ass big time and they seem more like game enthusiasts over there plus their forum just started up so it wont be mass invaded by noobs like RSDN has been over the past few years. Worst fourm out of all is the Simple Pickup one -- OMG 10 minutes of browsing and you'll never want to go back!

Also as side note, from Hotseat I mean Tyler himself is pretty much fearless, no AA and is so damn entitled so curious why people would say otherwise. His Hotseat videos too were literally on another level from the previous ones. I know he says himself he's always found certain things in game harder though but he mentions how his job with the company and lifestyle get in the way of making things a lot smoother for him.

From what I've seen anyway JMULB's company isnt teaching anythign new. It just seems all like Todd and Juliens stuff...
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SexyMachine

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Learn from all sources.  I don't knw jmu so I can't talk about how good he is or not.  But, if you can learn from him, definitely go for it.

I do know that lots of RSD guys have tried to form their own pickup companies.  But, they quickly learn that picking up girls and running a pickup business are completely different things.  Running a business is hard, hard work, and running a pickup business have it's own set of challenging problems.  Most guys that are "experts" at pickup can't explain the process, they suck at communication and they suck and marketing and they suck at business.  Pretty much alll of these ex RSD student companies have gone out of business, they don't last more than a year.

Carly is plenty hot enough, most guys would jerk off to her pictures.  The thing I noticed is Tyler has her full compliance and she travels with him and she's bisexual and Tyler picksup other girls with Carly to have threesomes.  So, I'd say Tyler is doing ok.


Spike@ Wrote:
his level of technical skill is higher and he doesn't have all these weird internal battles that tyler does (like approach anxiety and supplication weirdness). I can tell he is more entitled than tyler. The girls in his rotation are INCREDIBLY hot, all dime pieces. When he sat and talked with us for an hour he brought some girl over who he was fucking and she was much hotter than carly (tyler's girl) and he completely didn't give a shit about her. We talked about pickup right in front of her and what he does to pick up girls. He also demo'd in front of us on a really difficult set with a girl who was non-compliant, with her friends, walking to the hotel bar. Her initial reaction was bad but he somehow magically flipped her and made her sit down with him. What was even more impressive was that her friends were initially defensive, somehow realized that jmul is not to be fucked with and even they became passive and started dancing while they wait for the 'cool guy' to finish talking to their friend. 

Here are my notes from talking with him:

- You don’t have to smile
- Upon opening go for compliance or non-compliance
- Emotional state shouldn’t change when you open
- Trust that you are “the guy,” “the shit”
- You can fake it till you make it
- Assume you have control and she likes you
- Revelations book
- Engage with same energy level
- Frame: I’m the shit I can get any girl I want
- Frame: You’re above the girl but not in a condescending way
- Frame: You’re the one choosing the girl
- Vibe
 
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AustinCC

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Spike@ Wrote:
Hey austin I was wondering how you deal with non-compliance and winning over chicks who arent being initially compliant to you. JMUL says if you try to strongarm the girl or try to force her when she gives noncompliance then you're done. In his demo he told us when the girl gave noncompliance he would give a disinterested look to her through his facial expression. Also been reading about it in the book 'revelations.' I notice that when you do eventually beat noncompliance there's an element of 'winning her over' that's massively attractive


girls who give you compliance initially or rather girls who are attracted to you initially and then give you noncompliance typically give you noncompliance for a few reasons.  The first is you've crossed some moral line, eg make out with her, she realizes you can fuck her, and she rationalizes that it's bad and feels like a slut. For that you need more comfort. 2. External factor out of your control eg friends, come in, boy she like shows up, etc. Usually a state break situation. all you can do is go with the flow and do your best to win everyone over and reisolate. Also using something that you have knowledge of what she likes can help too. like "hey let's go get a drink real fast. You love grey goose right? the bartender makes some of the best cocktails in town." 3. She wants you to win her over. aka she's giving you tons of shit tests and all you have to do is persist and she's all yours. 


edit: 4. you have a girl who likes you, but isn't sure. that case you need to build more compliance by moving her around. having fun, conversations, the bubble, etc. the whole idea is that you're using compliance latters, aka getting her to do something a little bit more step by step. like if she doesn't feel comfortable going to the bar with you, you could try the dancefloor next to you, then the bar, then outside, then outside the gate, then in the taxi and so on. it's just a smooth transistion onward. the ep team did an interview on pua lingo that addresses the same thing. if not, i've got more info i used to use back in the day. 

 
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Macavity Wrote:
AustinCC Wrote:


no aa and goes for the hottest girls. I think just going for hotter girls will definitely jump almost anyones game. 

although i definitely still have some supplication issues every once in awhile, i think if i get the chance to consistantly go out, my wings and i will hit that level, and then i'll diverge into a different branch of social dynamics, because i don't have his or josh's sex drive. 

Macavity, if you have questions or w/e it's a good place to ask questions because most of the posters have ginormous amounts of experience and someone like myself, josh or jmonkey will be able to answer your questions pretty fast. 



Ahh didnt know you were on his forum also. Yeah cheers dude. Already asked a few questions there. I love RSD but the forum here sucks ass big time and they seem more like game enthusiasts over there plus their forum just started up so it wont be mass invaded by noobs like RSDN has been over the past few years. Worst fourm out of all is the Simple Pickup one -- OMG 10 minutes of browsing and you'll never want to go back!

Also as side note, from Hotseat I mean Tyler himself is pretty much fearless, no AA and is so damn entitled so curious why people would say otherwise. His Hotseat videos too were literally on another level from the previous ones. I know he says himself he's always found certain things in game harder though but he mentions how his job with the company and lifestyle get in the way of making things a lot smoother for him.

From what I've seen anyway JMULB's company isnt teaching anythign new. It just seems all like Todd and Juliens stuff...


basics really don't change that much man. hahah dude, the "austin" who answered you're question is me. hince the name austincc, because austin is all ready used on rsd. 
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