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Handsome's Story Part III: Dusk
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 Handsome’s Story Part 3: Dusk


Introduction

Below is a collection of miniature episodes in my story. This was my technically by third year in all this shit, but I took nine or ten months off to work. After that break something clicked in my learning curve and I really started to gain a much more solid grasp on the actual structure of game and how simple it was. I wanted to write less about the boring nights out, not because I had less to learn, but because they just seems so inane and useless, forgettable almost. Now I just want the memories of epic nights, good stories and fun times. There will still be some lessons learned, some boring shit to read through and some nerd-squad analyzing, but for the most part I want to express some of the true happy times that game as brought me, some of the awesome people I've met and some of the more heroic stories of girls I've banged. Read, comment and post as you like.

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July 30 2011

So tonight was the first night in Vegas for World Summit III. I'm writing up these reports months after the actual events based only on some brief notes I jotted down on the last day of the trip to remind me of the silly shit that went down.

It being Saturday the prime place to be was XS. I dumped my shit in my room and headed out with some of the RSD crew including Owen who I was rooming with. I remember popping open a shit ton of sets and literally just moving around in a frenzy not giving a fuck and having a blast. I made out with some gorgeous girl, one of the hottest ever before – Vegas party girls are top notch.

Midway through the night I relaxedly opened an Australian chick and just shot the shit. I wasn't particularly physical neither did I display a lot of intent. Mostly just chilled with her and self amused – shit I had picked up from assisting on Alexander’s bootcamp. Her sister was talking to some chode and so after about 30 minutes I decided it was time to go. The club would be shutting down in an hour or so and so I started giving the other dude directions to pull the sisters together. We pulled them to get a drink outside the club and then over to the Mirage. The entire time I'm fucking around having fun but gradually inching closer to a pull.

The main thing here was to keep the energy. I was getting tired and worked to keep the good mood running while the sister and the chode talked and I kept focusing on arousing the girl. At the mirage we got drinks and chilled talking about random shit. I initiated and went for the pull a few times but got resistance. As the wee hours of the morning started to roll around I said to myself “fuck this waiting shit” and made a stand.

Handsome: Alright I'm heading back (looking to the Aussie chick with a gaze that says I'm serious, this is the last chance)
AussieChick: Uhh okay, let me just say goodbye to my sister

I chill as the girl lectures the chode about being creepy and tells him he better not do anything then we head out to my place as the sun starts rising up. I pull her through the long ass walkway into my room. We start fooling around on the carpet and then Owen arrives back from the night, says hey, and just starts chilling on the bed. We keep messing around until the girl looks at me and whispers:

AussieChick: Why is he still here?

I chat to Owen, he though we already hooked up and were done, but understands and peaces for a bit. Banging ensues. And I finish the first night off nicely.

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Thinking back on the interaction I knew I was in when we first kissed. There was no neediness. Plus something Alexander had pointed on the Winnipeg bootcamp earlier was the fact that when the girl asks you to hold her purse it's a sign of trust and that she doesn't want you to go anywhere, it's not a degrading or beta-move. The entire interaction was boring at first, with less intent but I simply moved it in the right direction using a combination of facilitatory lies and eventually making a stand.

It's also funny hitting up clubs with a shitload of RSD dudes. The girls either get really turned on or really fucking confused. My voice started to die which is a bad sign, I was getting a bit raspy. On the plus side I ended up with a random new shirt somehow... plus a hot aussie chick. Night was definitely a win.
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 July 31 2011

XS again tonight. This club is the shit. So big, so open, soooo many hot chicks. I rolled up a little later tonight and greased the bouncer to get by with some RSD guys. As we enter I start to get pumped up and crack open a couple sets before spotting a gorgeous tanned girl. I walk up and start spitting random shit... and then we makeout.

Another RSD dude rolls up and starts chatting to her friend. Me and my girl are getting along great, she's Greek, tall, hot and has a sexy accent. I chat to my friend and then back to her and then go for the pull. She's excited but a little on the fence. I tell her we're going to go ride the gondola at the Venetian and that gets everyone excited.

We walk back from XS to the Venetian. That is a decently long walk, especially in fucking heels. For some reason we end up crossing streets in odd places and climbing over fences. 20 minutes later we're finally back at the Venetian and of course the gondola ride is closed – it's like 1:00 AM. The entire time I was chatting to my girl just spitting the same ten sentences over and over again. Learning Greek words, telling her I was taking her on an adventure and that we were getting married. My buddy is following with his girl.

I pretend to argue with the security guard to let us ride the gondola and then pull my girl inside. We tell people we're getting married and get photos taken, people are congratulating us and getting all excited. I'm having a blast, my girl is loving it as well.

We go up to the room. I take the bed, my buddy takes the bathroom and fun ensues...

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We walk the girls down after and send them away in a cab... then head back to the club. I get back feeling fucking awesome and start chilling assuming that girls will want to bang me simply because I just banged a smoking hot Greek girl 30 minutes ago. Nothing really happens until I decide I need to open and see a cute girl.

I walk up with nothing really in my head.

Handsome: Oi your heels are tall

The girl turns to look at me. I just stare back at her obnoxiously like she was supposed to be doing something. Then pull her in. She's got a nice English accent.

EnglishGirl: Oh my god, who are you?

Makeout.

She starts quivering with excitement and then turns to her friends. Some girl code happens and she gets the nod of approval.

EnglishGirl: Come with me

Yup I'm being pulled... in under two minutes. We head to the taxi stand while I just chill like an asshole and she chats a lot. She's getting flustered while I just remain calm and centered.

EnglishGirl: Uhhh, wait wait, I need to test you

She actually asks me some bullshit questions like shit tests. I smile insolently and shoot them down then tease her.

We snag a cab back to Circus Circus. Wait, make that like the shitty add on of a shitty hotel, like the back end of Circus Circus. Place looks like something on CSI. I head up with her after nineteen failed attempts for her scan card to work and then enjoy the second of the night...

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We finish and I start bullshitting about working for some business that I need to get up for really early... in like three hours. I toss out some more facilitatory lies and then peace from the shittiest hotel ever. Fuck that was fast... in and out in under an hour. My favourite line from her...

EnglishGirl: “I don't know if you've had British before, but now you have”

I head back to XS but it's closing down... fuck. I go to the exit where most people are dispersing and see Todd hitting up a couple of girls. I roll up and take the girl he's not hitting on. So easy, so straightforward. Talk, lead, ramble about bullshit, have FUN. Basic.

Todd's girl is set on going to bed, but mine is still on the fence. Once Todd's girl is gone he helps to pull mine out and we walk back to my room. Fuck... I walked like 12 km that night. We get back to my place and I realize I'm out of condoms since I gave one to my buddy for the first pull of the night. I get a shitty handjob and blowjob and then sent her out. Then I went down to the Grand Lux Cafe and had a kick ass meal.

The night was fucking long. Only three warm ups, then three pulls and made out with four different girls. Fucking long night with a way different pulling style than the night before. My voice was shot by the end of the night though, could barely speak by the time I hit the bed around 7:00 AM.
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 August 1 2011

I wake up feeling like pure asshole. I'm dehydrated, my voice is shot, my back is scratched up and my ass muscles are sore from the clenching and thrusting plus I have this vague odour of condom lingering around me. I drink water and tea all day trying to regain some semblance of being able to talk I just end up sounds like I'm dying from some strange throat disease.

We hit up XS again and I chill away from the music so I can actually have people hear a least some of what I'm saying. I start chatting to an older chick in her mid thirties and end up making out with her. Julien is close by and starts fucking around saying obnoxious shit and trying to muscle his way in. Eventually the girl freaks out a bit and leaves. I blow him out of his next set by creeping that girl out the same way. Fun shit.

The girls didn't seem to be as hot. I got a close pull, don't really remember what happened but it fucked up at the last bit. May have worked out in the long run but I didn't want to go through some bullshit. Made out with four or five chicks and spoke to some hot girls, but got cock blocked a few times by the friends which especially sucks when you don't have a voice. I was fucking whispering half the time. Tonality is definitely key and conveys so much...
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 August 2 2011

Hit up the Chateau tonight. Madeout with three different girls despite still being in whisper mode. I couldn't split some American sisters, one was hot, one was fat, and no one wanted to take the fat one. I compensated for speaking by rasping and shuffling and spent the majority of my time chilling on the balcony as the club wasn't too active. Towards the end my and a buddy found a pair of Austrian girls we pulled back to our hotel. It was as the club was closing and we convinced them to come get food.

We pulled them almost all the way to our room but my girls was just not down. I felt like I invested a shitload but maybe came off too upfront or pushy or obvious. It cold be a sticking point and I need to be more innocent... the set eventually folded and we hit the bed. Close, but fucking frustrating.
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 August 3 2011

Went to Surrender tonight, I don't know what it is about this club but I never have as much success here as I do at other places. I made out with one dutch chick and had some funny times but it just wasn't as good as the other few nights out.

I felt like I wanted or needed something too badly. I didn't have the right mindset that I was just there for fun and I think that brought down my vibe or state. It wasn't really good or bad, just kind of meh, plain and blah.

After the club I tried too hard on a couple sets. One I under escalated while some dude I was with over escalated and spooked both the girls. After seeing Owen's infield footage of pulling girls off the street I definitely think I should have gunned a little harder for it and gone for the pull faster. The dutch girl I had was kind of into it, but not really, She was too in party mode to really get invested. Mediocre night but fuck it, Vegas is still the shit.
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August 4 2011

Tonight was Tryst and I was feeling a lot more chill and non-needy, especially compared to the night before. I started out low key and hit a few warm up sets, it felt like unwinding and relaxing which was awesome. I started chatting to some tall, smart girl and then to her cute Asian friend who was like a god damn genius.

I kept mentally checking in to make sure I was still chilling and wanting nothing. Just ran through the way my body was feeling and then reengaged. Me and the Asian girl started to get closer and explore a bit. Some dude invited to his VIP table, poured us drinks and we got to chatting. At the end of it he offered me a job, but he was pretty hammered, don't think it would mean shit the next morning.

I did some gently leading with the Asian chick and brought her outside the bar. Her friends cockblocked a bit but not unpleasantly, more like they were just making sure she was safe and I was cool. The girl actually observed the non-neediness and remarked on it commenting that it was pretty unusual when she was hanging out with guys.

I still think I need more self amusement here to get the girl swept up in the fun. The relaxation and non-neediness were there though which made a solid different. There was also some thin emotional connection which is something I don't think I've really experienced before in set. Her friends pulled her away to go to some other party at another club and she invited me to come along but I was feeling lazy and decided to chill at Tryst instead... may have missed out on a pull here.

I hit up some set with girls from Nebraska and battled some Spanish guys who they'd been with the entire night. It was long and drawn out and I was afraid of over escalation here and losing it which probably what inevitably caused it to fail. In the future I'm going to just draw a line. It needs to be done at some point. I kind of hoped for a war of attrition where the guys would get bored and wander off but it didn't work out that way. I need to hook harder and pull the girls into my world and shut the guys out.

I hit up one last set and thought it was going fantastically until I realized the girl was a hooker and decided to not get involved there. The bar was fun, I just need to open right, and have better self amusement and a vibe that's a little bit more fun to match the chill, relaxed and non-needy side I was feeling.
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August 5 2011

Man I felt good, even after days of going out... XS just does that to you, that or it's got to be the paleo. I was opening sets more slowly. They're going fine but I'm coming off to nice, not enough intent or excitement. One of the issues I'm having is comparing guys like Julian to guys like Alexander. Julian says bizarre crazy shit, bounces around and pulls girls all over the place. Alexander is more about chill fun, having a good time and self amusement. High energy versus low energy. I don't know which is more effective but there's a driving urge to be like someone who's better than you coupled with the pressure to perform.

I found a cute older girl and started making out with her. I got distracted and when I came back the girl was chatting to Pilgrimage2012 – dropped the ball there. I was gunning shit hard but nothing was really hooking. I need to stay in set longer and be more self amused. Having fun is key and it takes effort to get the girls involved sometimes. I'll take a page out of Julian's book here and just say some random shit that creates arousal in the girls or an emotional reaction. I also need to push the girls away at points and have boundaries and standards. Not necessarily standards but times where I'm not just pulling in, in in and in, there needs to be some breathing room and pushing away as well.

I tested some of ts out by talking to a hot older set and saying some outrageous shit and definitely crossing the line into rude. I tried this a couple other times and it flew okay but I think I was still hinging on a reaction and outcome dependant which eventually dissipated the set.

I had no real expectations when I landed in Vegas which resulted in four pulls and three lays in the first 48 hours but nothing else particular after that. Yea there were makeouts with hot girls but only a couple pulls and no more real closes. I think I created an ego quick with my success which hindered me in the later days.

From a self analyzable perspective I'm thinking I might be too push push push and not enough pull back, like I need to be more man to woman. These are related in some way -- like I'm afraid of letting the set go bad or something… but I never really find a lot to be pissed or disappointed in when I talk to chicks, I just don't give a shit. Maybe I need to communicate my expectations or something but the interactions may be too positive which isn't arousing to the girl. I also don't want to work too hard to flip out over shit or express negative emotions… I'm a little stumped about what to do here. Maybe I just need or shorter fuse for bullshit or I need to do more edgy shit to entertain myself, or maybe I just need more self amusement anyway which is a pullback in attention anyhow… we shall see.

The thing that bugged me was that most sets were like polite but no. Just not enough masculine polarity or something… maybe a new sticking point but I think going out for a while will solve some of the new problems I have. Assisting Alex and RSD summit will need some time to sink into my psyche. We'll see what shit's like in a few weeks and months. Just need to keep finding the right tweaks. My first couple days in Vegas made that clear

Maybe I want it too bad. I don't think I'm I needy but might come off needy. If I try to be indifferent I think I bore the girl and she stales out but if I "game" her I'm pushing too hard. I need to balance these two maybe or again push her away and know with full abundance I can find another girl. I'm the fucking $100,000,000 ticket and she's lucky to be talking to me; she better not fuck it up for herself. But what outward behaviors express this? They would naturally stem from abundance and experience and reference points but I need some tangible actions to make it happen easier I think...

Made out with three girls but no pulls. I need to be a fucking unreactive tornado, a force in the interaction that cannot be stopped. Get high off your own awesomeness and start fucking rocking into set destroying shit, in love with yourself, making shit happen creating initiative, being the cause, the star of the movie, making moves and walking to your own beat.… Find what you find funny! Doesn't have to be loud, not necessarily fireworks (hot burning coal) but you should be fucking consistent and congruent -- no chinks in the armor. Then makeout then get to know, logistics, move her around, pull, bring the party, add the energy, 100% expression.
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 August 6 2011

Tonight was better. I felt more self amused and almost normal. There was no pressure. I still didn't have as much success as before and again I'm not quite sire why. I felt like there was something missing – I was like confused about why the chick wasn't into me.

Maybe it was a normal night but the imprint from the last couple left some tracks that need time to disappear. I had a cute Aussie girl where everything went peachy until the end where I tried pull her and she just decided no. I'm not sure if I need to be more dominant and commanding or more innocent. Maybe both. It was a fun night but it still feels like the girl's not investing. She should be more interested. There's a gap in the communication between what I believe in my head an my outward actions that's causing some issues here.

I crashed that night and the next day hit up Tao beach club where I made out with some girl at 11:00 in the morning and messed around with her in the pool. So easy and natural. The pool party was a ton of fun... fuck this city really never sleeps.

I packed up my shit in a couple hours and hit my flight where I slept for 18 hours a day for the next week. Fucking Vegas... this place is the shit.
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 May 19 2012

It's been nine months since I've gone out... been focusing hard on work and other shit but I finally decided to drag my ass away from work and do something. Out tonight to see a friend after he got back from a four month trip. The place were it is one of my favourites; very chill, upscale, lots of good looking people. The weather is warm, I'm feeling good. I start chatting to a girl I vaguely know but haven't seen in three or four years. There's some friendly chatting, I'm feeling indifferent and fulfilled.

I get a boner. Signal. Girl mentions something about smoking. I'm happily chatting away.

Handsome: Don't smoke, that shit is bad for you.
Girl: It's more just to get some fresh air
Handsome: Yea I could go for that

We go outside. I'm chatting and amusing myself on the way out. Just happy.

Handsome: blah blah... so I was in Europe and-

She cuts me off by making out with me. It's on. The boner was a signal... your cock does have a brain.

Handsome: Get your purse, let's go.

She gets her purse. We get into my car.

Girl: So do you do this with all the girls?
Handsome: Shit you're right, I should probably just drop you off at home and go back.
Girl: No no no no no, let's go.

We have a brief dispute over who's place we go to. We go back to my place. I get us some vodka. I take of her shirt. She takes off mine. I take off her pants...

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My back is scratched up and my entire room stinks of sex. We hang for a bit and I drive her home. The night was quick. I headed out after midnight. We spoke for maybe 20 minutes and then it was all closed. Easy.

I can't quite put my finger on what was working. Something about indifference, non-neediness, a little bit of self amusement, but still enough intent to go for it. I trusted my dick, even though she took the first real step forward. Some signals were there, but I'm not sure what they were. I haven't been out in months, but the close was so easy. Something about not giving a shit... just having a good time and being fulfilled. I am enough.
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 DAMN, this is you 3 years in? 2 minute pulls? assisting bootcamps? awesome.
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novel wrote:
 DAMN, this is you 3 years in? 2 minute pulls? assisting bootcamps? awesome.
Yea, RSD is good shit... all I can really say here ;)


May 26 2012

Out tonight for another one shot one kill. I started off chilling at a buddy's. This is one of the first cool dudes I've met in a while who is kind of into the community stuff. He's got a girlfriend but has banged a fair amount of girls. I haven't mentioned anything about RSD, but just excited to head out and party with him. Going out alone has its perks but going out with other fun people is really where it's at.

We chill and have some drinks then head over to a wine bar to meet some friends. The wine bar is fun, joking around, having a good time but it gets boring so I opt to leave. We check out one place, but there's a cover so we scrap it and hit up the same venue that I pulled a girl from last week.

We roll up around 1:00 AM. No line and no cover... no problem. The place is unfortunately packed with dudes. We chill and just hang out for 15 or 20 minutes, not approaching. I was beginning to feel a bit like a chode. I started scanning for any approach invitations from girls that walked past. There were a few but I opted against opening.

A blonde girl walks past and I meet her eyes. She holds eye contact and take a slight pause in her step.

Done.

I grab her hand and pull her in.

Handsome: I like you
Blonde Girl: I love hair

A makeout ensues. I start spewing random shit to entertain us both. My buddy chips in. One of her friends introduces herself, the other impatiently waits at the stairs. I move her around. Pick her up, have fun with her. The vibe is good.

Handsome: We're going to get a drink.

I pull her to the bar. My friend is cracking jokes about being the third wheel. I play it off like it's nothing. We get some drinks. I entertain myself some more and have a good time with her. Some strong push pull. Some asshole moves, then some nice and friendly moves. The vibe moves from intimate to casual and back again.

I decide it's time to isolate. My buddy doesn't get the message. I make walking signs with my fingers. The girl's friend shows up and starts talking to her.

Handsome: You're saying good things about me right.

Her friend nods and gives me the thumbs up. I don't know if that's true or not. My girl starts making remarks about how she's not sure where I came from. I ignore them and continue on. Her friends leave and I pull her to the stairs. My friend tags along despite my best attempts to explain that I'm pulling this girl.

Handsome (to girl): How far do you live?
Girl: Five minutes away
Handsome (to friend): I'll be back in five minutes

We exit the club. I deal with some resistance which I handle easily with push pull shit. I call her a slut, then I tell her I love her. We get in my car and drive to her house... easily 20 minutes away. On the ride home I'm keeping the vibe strong and she's getting riled up. She starts fishing around the car and grabs some clothes I'm donating to charity and starts throwing them out the window. I grab her and pull her back in. She keep struggling to throw shit out the window. The car is swerving all over the road and I'm trying to prevent her from doing this shit while berating her and driving a car down a main road at 2:00 AM.

We finally make it to her house after a few close calls and wrong turns.

We get in, one of her room mates is there. I sweet talk her and come off really friendly and nice. We go to her her room. I throw her on the bed and remove my shirt. Resistance.

She goes to smoke a cigar. I hear her and her friend arguing about something. I get my shirt back on in preparation for the worst. She comes back through the door and I just toss her on the bed again and whip off my shirt. Some playful wrestling ensues and more clothes start coming off. As I start fingering her I remember I just washed my jeans and removed the condom from the back pocket. I look down at the moaning blonde girl in front of me...

Fuck it -- I take the raw plunge...

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We chill after for a bit. The girl starts to become really annoying in the way she talks, something I didn't notice before. I hang for a bit, making out, cuddling whatever until I get bored. I toss on some clothes as the girl starts asking me about my job, life etc. I give a few short answers and kiss her goodbye before heading off into the night.

I get a text from my friend about his phone dying and being left at the club until 2:30. I send him a pic of the girl I banged.

Solid night.
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