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July 30th, 2014
Tyler's Physical Open: How to Transition?
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PUARain2

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 Hey so after you do the hand of god and pull them in. Makeout whatever. How the hell do you keep the same emotion going and keep it from going to a chody interaction? Don't you still need to find out about the girl and build rapport. I cant comprehend how to transition away from the attraction phase into comfort.  
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Scrap the emotional progression model. 

Instead, cycle the emotions throughout the interaction.  Flip between self amusement, and normal conversation constantly. 

This way, you remain unpredictable and continue emotionally influencing her, but at the same time, you're solidifying a connection through more logical talk. 

Me: You're a BIT SLOW.  Did u used to ride the SHORT BUS, and SNIFF GLUE IN CLASS?!
Girl: Wtf!?  Ha ha hah ha!
Me: AY!  WHERE RU FROM?!
Girl: bla blab bla blab bla
Me: Cool, I'm from bla bla bla bla
Me: WAIT!  AY!  STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT!
Girl: What!?  Ha ah ha ha! 
Me:  I'M JUST A MAN.  I CANT CONTROL MY DESIRES WHEN UR THIS FUCKING HOT!
Girl: Thank- (CUT HER OFF)
Me: -WHAT DO U DO FOR FUN?!
Girl: bal bla bal bla bla


See, you constantly cycle between illogical fluff talk, and normal mundane chit chat.  Instead of being stuck on one course of action, you have the freedom to be flexible and dynamic.  If the interaction is getting boring, you can spice it up by getting sexual, or teasing her.  If there's not enough connection, you can slow it down by asking logical questions. 

This is essentially emotional leading.  You are constantly at the cause.
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OP have you actually done hand of god + make out?
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PUARain2 wrote:
 Hey so after you do the hand of god and pull them in. Makeout whatever. How the hell do you keep the same emotion going and keep it from going to a chody interaction
By NOT BEING A CHODE.

Do not think of this as a process with discrete steps. It's a flow and you are BLENDING the attract, rapport and seduction phases together simultaneously. Think of it like striking a chord. 

Further, nothing you do has to MAKE SENSE. So for you a logical male, you're like, "derp if i transitions to something different it is weird" when in fact it DOESNT FUCKING MATTER. I will rip them in, bang bang bang intro, then back off HARD and go "hi, I'm jeff" in a totally NORMAL TONE OF VOICE. At some point the chick needs to see that you are a normal, real person, not just some fuckin caricature, or it breaks trust. 

So I open hard yank them in, then back off, but my EYE CONTACT, PROXIMITY and the fact that I am SQUARED UP with her are all still subcommunicating man to woman tone to the interaction despite the drop in intensity. From there, I ramp up escalation and SOIs over a period of 10-20 mintues until I make out with them (of course sometimes you get that LIGHTNING STRIKE where you can do it in much less time or even instantaneously, but Im speaking in generalities here), then just embrace her with what we call "rocking with rapport" and turn the slider knob up on the rapport/connection while keeping a slight hum of physicality in the background, even fractionating back from time to time. At this point, after having established and CEMENTED the man to woman tone with the kiss its ok and even necessary to ease back.. time is your ally. Move her around, figure out what the logistics are, then get her the fuck out.
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 Also, "Hand of God" is capitalized. Do not take the Lord's name in vain
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jeffy's advice is God

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Great answers by fukoutdawhey and Jeff.

Being normal at some point like Jeff said is definitely helpful, especially if you are not pulling in the same night. Often if I go hard at first (dance floor, grab her on the way to dance floor or something) I back off a bit and chill somewhere. Ideally at this point I pull (because by a strange series of coincidence were chilling near the club entrance...) but if it does not happen, the # is usually solid because she saw massive intent (I most likily slapped her ass, madeout etc already) and appeared "normal" enough so she can assume things won't be ackward on the date or that she's a massive slut for comming.

Talking chode or whatever is not that bad (you can obv still get laid) it's just be alone with the girl somewhere together, and move around.
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jlaix wrote:

PUARain2 wrote:
 Hey so after you do the hand of god and pull them in. Makeout whatever. How the hell do you keep the same emotion going and keep it from going to a chody interaction
By NOT BEING A CHODE.

Do not think of this as a process with discrete steps. It's a flow and you are BLENDING the attract, rapport and seduction phases together simultaneously. Think of it like striking a chord. 

Further, nothing you do has to MAKE SENSE. So for you a logical male, you're like, "derp if i transitions to something different it is weird" when in fact it DOESNT FUCKING MATTER. I will rip them in, bang bang bang intro, then back off HARD and go "hi, I'm jeff" in a totally NORMAL TONE OF VOICE. At some point the chick needs to see that you are a normal, real person, not just some fuckin caricature, or it breaks trust. 

So I open hard yank them in, then back off, but my EYE CONTACT, PROXIMITY and the fact that I am SQUARED UP with her are all still subcommunicating man to woman tone to the interaction despite the drop in intensity. From there, I ramp up escalation and SOIs over a period of 10-20 mintues until I make out with them (of course sometimes you get that LIGHTNING STRIKE where you can do it in much less time or even instantaneously, but Im speaking in generalities here), then just embrace her with what we call "rocking with rapport" and turn the slider knob up on the rapport/connection while keeping a slight hum of physicality in the background, even fractionating back from time to time. At this point, after having established and CEMENTED the man to woman tone with the kiss its ok and even necessary to ease back.. time is your ally. Move her around, figure out what the logistics are, then get her the fuck out.
YES @ that line.. 

im kinda right brain orientated cuz i have ADD like mf..

intergrading shit rather than breaking it down is always the direction i lean to.. 

thought that was dope.. 
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Ive tried the Hand of God (thanks for the correction jeffy, what a heinous error ive committed) but kind of choding with the makeout. I would do it and get my face close to her and not go for the makeout. The interaction dies out from there. I'm nervous when I do that so I'm working towards just pulling the trigger. In the meanwhile, I was just wondering if it was possible to do the Hand of God and build a lot of tension and release it and makeout sometime else. I'm still pushing myself for the makeout
Free style wrote:
OP have you actually done hand of god + make out?
@jeffy thanks for the reply will push myself to do that
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I get a boner everytime jeffy's post is more than a one liner ;)
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Stinkfist wrote:
I get a boner everytime jeffy's post is more than a one liner ;)
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