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Doge~

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Wed.08.23.12

Currently holed out in Los Angeles. Vegas didn't quite work out. Maybe I'll write about it in a later post. In any case, here I am for the next year so I might as well make the most of it.

Headed out to Bordners. They apparently have this Club Moscow night which is free with printed flyer. 18+ venue. Usually I never go to these things but it was actually somewhat decent. Place is quite large as well. Kinda reminds me of Webster Hall... except maybe not quite as large.

It's interesting, I came out tonight feeling SUPER GOOD. Actually the best I've felt in a long time going out and gaming. It could have to do with my new meditation habit I've been implementing. I meditated for 20 minutes as I drove into Hollywood.

Regardless, I had a feeling it might just be a fascade. You never know what your night is going to be like until you're in the venue.

Well, low and behold, I get inside and I start going into my head. I'm trying to force myself to open but those emotions are stopping me again. Regardless, I get myself going.

Approaches are BAD. I'm stifled but actually still doing better than I normally am stifled. Regardless, I'm either getting blown out quickly, I stall out quickly or I end up in really awkwards conversations. This happened with a 5. A fucking 5. She actually excused herself to join her friends.

I was blown out by a 5...

HAHA! Fucking awesome! This is why I play this fucking game!

After this I start loosening up. Well... MidnightRambler had originally wanted to hit up Supper Club which we tried earlier but to no avail. We decide to try it again.

We again end up in a clusterfuck and can't get in. Cover is $40 anyways. Seriously WTF. Lesson learned. If you're a civvie in LA, you're not getting into the hottest clubs.

He meets one of his boys, we end up trying another venue that pretty much dead. Some cute girls here so it's doable. However, I don't do anything.

End up calling it a night early. 7 approaches I believe. Nothing too memorable but I'm proud of myself regardless.

I approached hot girls and some not so hot. The venue was loud and the girls were on the dancefloor. There was a time when this would extra intimidate me but not anymore. Maybe if there were more people in the venue but we'll have to see another night.

Let's see, some goals for the coming weeks or months.

1. Street sets like they're just part of the night. There are A LOT of girls out on the streets.
2. Approaching an entire venue if necessary.
3. Seeing a girl and approaching right away.
4. Solo or with wing, I feel the same either way.
5. 4 nights a week. Rest of the time spent learning programming.

So I'm actually kinda excited for the coming months. LA is a pretty sweet place. Girls are about as hot as NYC but dress more scandalous, so perception wise they seem hotter. Game is also very straightforward. You suck shit, you get blown out very quickly. If you're the man, you pull very quickly.

This is going to be fun. :)

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chiffonade

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hey dude, just woke up from crashing early - i was actually going to head to supper club with another LA guy (i think he knows midnightrambler too) but had to work much later than anticipated.   will shoot you a PM.
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Doge~

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Thurs.8.24.12

Ok not a good night. Headed out to the Standard and waited around for the place to get good. Not a good idea. People begin packing in at 12 am but I've just been spectating the whole time and there are a lot of mixed groups.

I end up talking to a fat asian girl. Insanely bad conversation. Like if I could see myself, I probably sounded like a 12 year old boy. Not in terms of my voice but my behavior and mannerisms were so awkward and shy. Regardless, I stuck it through even though it was killing me.

I decide to head to Hollywood Blvd. even though some hot girls are starting to come in.

I get there and I see a venue that actually looks good. I find parking and decide to get a quick bite to eat.

As I get to the venue, I stop. I refuse to go in. I don't even know why. I just gave into my anxiety.

Not sure if it was because I was so out of it but I just decided to go home.

Man this solo shit always kills me. Every time I try to get it handled it never does. It almost seems to get worse. Regardless, I'm going to keep on trying. This solo shit must get handled.

Thoughts:
1. I really have to accept that I suck. There's just no other way around it. I have to accept this reality. I resist it so bad, SO FUCKING BAD. I want for it to be true that I'm cool, awesome and "enlighted". No I have to accept that I suck shit. Only then can I finally move forward and stop having so much anxiety with the approach. I'm so afraid of seeing that reality get thrown in my face. My ego wants for anything to stay in some fake delusional reality where I'm cool.

Well fuck all of that.

Anyways, solo again tomorrow. Let's do this.
2. Having some time to think about this now, I realize that this is my MAJOR ISSUE. I want so bad for the girl to validate that I'm cool that it becomes so difficult for me to approach when my game is at a low point. I also think this is why I resist unfamiliar doors to venues. As bizarre as it is, I think I get anxiety because I don't want the door guy to reject me for not being cool enough.

Wow, I never even thought about it that way. I've been trying so hard to hang onto this conceptual cool self, that I've been imprisoned by it. No more. Fuck this I'm sick of trying to uphold some identity that I don't want to care about. Fuck being cool. Fuck being "developed". I'm letting it go right now.

I suck. I fucking suck shit and that's all there is to it.

I also realize that there have been times in the past where I've reached this realization and I'll do really well for a week. However, as my entitlement goes up, I suddenly stop thinking I suck shit and I want to be better and better. I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to feel more charasmatic but I'm going to have to learn to pace it much better this time around and keep my ego in check.

Fuck being cool. Don't try to be cool, some concept that was never create by me in the first place. JUST BE YOURSELF.
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 hey on thursday nights theres a venue called La cita. its good on thursdays.

Its like a little mexican bar. Not too far from the standard. Maybe like a 5 minute or 10 minute drive. Or like 15 blocks walking if you want to hit that up.

I lived in LA and to me the night life was so annoying. So much bs to deal with to go out in hollywood on friday or saturday. And then dont know anywhere else to go besides hollywood :/
Im in austin now, but I like to read LA guys journals, never know if I might be back. Curious as to what venues to hit and stuff. Nightlife access can be complicated in LA.
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Fri.8.25.12 - Dudefest '12

Thanks Roadrally, I'll be sure to check it out.

So tonight I roll out again solo. I had a feeling tonight would be much better and I was right. I get in and it's only 10:30 pm. I begin approaching and do 4 approaches fairly quickly. End up with 5 for the first venue.

One issue here is most of the groups are mixed or just giant groups of girls. This isn't a bad thing, as it forces me to step up my game eventually but for the time being, I'm having difficulty opening these sets.

Eventually the place becomes packed and I can't open anymore so I head somewhere else.

End up in line for The Hudson. Wait for about an hour before I get in. Totally not fucking worth it.

Place wasn't even that crowded and again. A lot of mixed sets. I do 2 more in here.

By this time I've lost my moment and just not feeling it. Approaches go nowhere but that's cool.

I decide to hit up one last place which is down the street. Inside and it's all mixed sets again. Fuck it I say. I'm tired and my momentum is gone. I decide to call it a night.

Thoughts:
1. Actually not bad tonight. Usually solo nights end up as approachless nights but I was actually pretty focused and on it tonight. Just gotta keep the consistency going.
2. Letting go of my ego helped a lot. Just sorta redialing in my beliefs in the right place and humbling myself to the process again. Still haven't had a night where I approach from start to finish and really hit state. It'll come eventually, I just gotta keep consistent and trust in the process.
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Sat.8.26.12

Tonight I head out to Hermosa/Manhattan Beach. Really like this area. Girls are hot, venues are nice and ratio isn't bad.

First venue I'm in and it reminds me of some Jersey Shore shit. Really LOUD, super crowded and energy very very high. I remember a time when a venue with maybe half this level of energy would put me so far in my head I would be paralyzed with anxiety. Not so tonight.

I do my first approach fairly early on after a quick visit to the bathroom. It's a 2-set, one is an older woman with her short chubby friend.

I'm stifled but I'm hanging in there just riding it out. Just trying to be as normal as I can without running off.

Eventually the better looking one turns around and talks to a black dude behind her. I turn to her chubby friend and engage her.

Eventually we end up grinding on each other. I just think fuck it, why not. I'm feeling her up, she's grabbing my cock. Fuck it let's have fun.

I realize at this point I have to humble myself to the process and just focus on sleeping with girls as much as I can. Doesn't matter if she's a 5, you get better with women by being with women.

As this point she's making me really horny with her ass rubbing on my cock. We make out a few times. Eventually she asks me what I'm doing later. I tell her I have no plans, we should hang out. She agrees.

We exchange numbers. Eventually the 2 leave for another venue. I decide to hit it up again.

By this time, the venue is starting to get stupidly packed. I'm still feeling out of it and my anxiety starts to go up. I eventually do 1 more approach before my wings asks if I want to head to Manhattan Beach. Sure.

We get to our next venue and I can't get in because my license has been punched recently. They ask me for my temporary license which is in my car. Fuck.

Eventually get in after a cab ride and drive back. I get in and start hitting it up. Don't remember how many approaches I did as most were very quick.

Probably the approach I'm most proud of is the approach after I've lost all my momentum. This usually means my AA is very high when this happens so when I'm able to push through that, I consider it a pretty significant achievement.

What's nice about this is also I hit state very quickly when this happens... as long as I can keep going. However I only manage one before my wing calls it a night and we depart.

Thoughts:
1. Any night where I can approach and take action I'm proud of, even if my approaches aren't very good. I realize I have to humble myself to the process all over again, discard my ego and start over. In order to sleep with 9's consistently, you have to be sleeping with 8's consistently. So on a so forth. If I don't even feel entitled enough to pull home a 7, then that's what I need to be doing. You get better at sleeping with women by sleeping with women.
2. I'm beginning to understand LA a bit better. I realize now why people get so good at game here. It pretty much is the perfect environment for it.
I'm beginning to realize NYC is easier (and maybe harder in certain respects), compared to this. People here are actually social. Women are witty and very outgoing. Regular every day dudes actually have game.
For some reason I'm finding it easier to approach here than back in NYC. Dunno if its because being social with strangers is just more socially acccepted here. People are also incredibly polite here. Bouncers have trouble telling people what to do because they're mostly very chode or very nice. This probably means that crowd control isn't a big issue in LA.
I think another nice thing is seeing all the incredibly hot girls. At first I was a bit dazed and starstruck but the more I've been going out the more I've become accustomed to seeing hot women. Even seeing how a lot of the really hot ones dress very risque, it doesn't phase me as much. Regardless, I'm not actually approaching these girls so it's a moot point until I actually do. I'm still getting intimidated by the really beautiful ones.
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Haze~ wrote:

Thoughts:
1. Any night where I can approach and take action I'm proud of, even if my approaches aren't very good. I realize I have to humble myself to the process all over again, discard my ego and start over. In order to sleep with 9's consistently, you have to be sleeping with 8's consistently. So on a so forth. If I don't even feel entitled enough to pull home a 7, then that's what I need to be doing. You get better at sleeping with women by sleeping with women.
2. I'm beginning to understand LA a bit better. I realize now why people get so good at game here. It pretty much is the perfect environment for it.
I'm beginning to realize NYC is easier (and maybe harder in certain respects), compared to this. People here are actually social. Women are witty and very outgoing. Regular every day dudes actually have game.
For some reason I'm finding it easier to approach here than back in NYC. Dunno if its because being social with strangers is just more socially acccepted here. People are also incredibly polite here. Bouncers have trouble telling people what to do because they're mostly very chode or very nice. This probably means that crowd control isn't a big issue in LA.
I think another nice thing is seeing all the incredibly hot girls. At first I was a bit dazed and starstruck but the more I've been going out the more I've become accustomed to seeing hot women. Even seeing how a lot of the really hot ones dress very risque, it doesn't phase me as much. Regardless, I'm not actually approaching these girls so it's a moot point until I actually do. I'm still getting intimidated by the really beautiful ones.
Hey im curious what you mean by this. Would you mind explaining it a little more for me?
Crowds in LA are generally pretty tame. I dont think ive ever seen a physical fight breakout in Hollywood, like punching MMA style fight, seen it other places but yeah never seen it in hollywood. 

Good job enjoying yourself and that girl. Its pretty fun to makeout with girls.
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Yeah definitely in that sense you never have to worry about your safety so you can approach at will and as much as you want. I also think people are much more accepting of it here (talking to strangers).

In terms of it being the perfect environment, I guess the gist of it is because people are just much more socially savvy here. Girls are confident, very sociable (also incredibly hot). They're like that in the East Coast too but here it's even more so.

Even the guys are cool. Seriously there are random dudes with game or can roll up to girls and hold conversations. Back in NYC 99% of the dudes either stand around all stifled or approach really shitty.

So I think in this sense, it forces you... well me anyways, as a guy who tends to just get very anti-social and stifled when I'm out, to have to step up my game if I want any chance to do well here.

It's like the girls are eager to talk to you (assuming you're not super lame or incongruent), they tend to be a bit crazy (forcing you to learn how to dicate the rhythm) and the bar is set higher for how cool you have to be in order to take her home. At least that's kinda my interpretation. I could be wrong of course.

I think the environment is just perfect for getting you to step up and be a better man.

Anyways, who knows. I'm really enjoying it though. I've realized how blessed I was in NYC and just how easy it was there. But I think in the end I'll end up liking LA more since it's really forcing me to step it up. (which for me means learning to be a more social human being)
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hey dude

good job on pushing through solo, i love solo game personally, been taking it easy the last couple of nights but down to beast SOON, i'll shoot you a text.  onedrop's break is ending soon so we should all hit it up and try to get a group going.
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Thurs.8.30.12

Kinda mad at myself. Definitely didn't take as much action as I would've liked. I almost want to say I didn't push myself hard enough but that isn't even true. I was pushing myself as hard as I could but once I lost my momentum, it was over.

There were so many hot girls and it was probably the most ideal environment possible that I've ever been to. I didn't realize Drai's was so damn chill, I've never been to a venue where the music was this quiet.

I approach my first chick pretty quickly. Lone black girl, kinda cute, very outgoing. I was talking with her for a while but she was putting me in my head due to being much more charasmatic than I was. I eventually excuse myself even though I could sense she liked me.

Talk to my wing for a bit. Hit up another approach. Blown out although I really didn't get her attention the right way. Eventually end up in set with another black chick, a 5.

She wasn't fat just not very good looking. Cool chick regardless. I begin to loosen up more and actually feel myself starting to go into state. It's been a while.

This conversation goes much better but there's no intent there. I eventually leave after being in set for a good 30 minutes or so. Wing has already left. I'm solo for the rest of the night.

The rest of the night consisted of me walking around and trying desperately to open. If I don't open within 5 minutes after my last approach I'm fucked.

I was kinda upset with myself. I really, really wanted to just burn the place down but no matter how hard I tried, it just wasn't happening.

Still though, I have to look to the positives. I was being normal and having a normal conversation with a chick. I couldn't even do that last week. Let it slowly improve over time. It's going to be a process.

Thoughts:
1. Don't compare yourself to anyone else. Focus on your game, on your sticking points.
2. Keep telling yourself everyday that being cool is not important. Stop trying to be cool. Stop trying to preserve any little bit of coolness you think you have.
3. It was getting so frustrating because I'm always the guy saying how much getting blown out doesn't matter. How much I don't care about what people think of me. Yet, I care the most out of anyone I know. Nothing has been able to change this about me. Does it have to do with entitlement and intent? Probably. Nothing I can do about it now. Just gotta through these nights.

Fuck it you know what. If I have to go through nights like this, well then fuck it. I don't give a shit. I'm taking action. It beats staying at home and wasting my life away.
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Fri.8.31.12

Man, I fucking LOVE Hermosa Beach. The girls are fucking hot. The venue is loud, packed and obnoxious... well at least ones on Pier Ave. You can literally yell on the dancefloor and not hear yourself.

I actually feel more at home in these chaotic environments then really quiet ones since it's almost like I can be all crazy and not feel weird about it. This could potentially turn into a weird sticking point so I got to make it a habit to hit up places like Drai's as well.

I head out late and end up looking for parking for an hour. Kinda my fault since I was super paranoid about whether or not I could park on the street. Turns out its ok (I think).

Anways, I get to the bar and there's a huge line. $10 cover. Not so bad.

Inside and it's crowded, loud and hot girls everywhere. It takes me a while to get my first approach in but I eventually do.

I had a little help actually since these two dudes blow themselves out with this Asian girl and I see my opening to go in and say some situational opener. She gets a laugh out of it, I get my social momentum.

I start approaching other girls but I'm experiencing a lot of the same anxiety as before. I know it has to do with entitlement so I try something else. I begin to pump my own state and "shit" talk myself.

It's working. I'm actually feeling much better about myself. I eventually approach a total of 5 girls. 3 of them were actually really hot. I'm proud of myself for that even though the interactions went nowhere.

I decide to leave after my last approach. It took me a while to do but I realize I'm leaving way too early. Regardless, I gotta build up my endurance to go the entire 4 hours of the night. I won't leave till at least 1:45.

Anyways, not bad tonight. I was solo in a tough environment and I pushed myself to get going. I even approached very attractive girls, so that's definitely progress.

Thoughts:
1. Remember to play your own game and don't compare your success or progress with anyone else. As long as you make small incremental improvements every night you go out, then that's all that matters.
2. Remember, to pump your own state. I realize why I was so scared of the blow out. It's because I stopped believing in myself and I stopped dictating my reality internally. Once this happens I began to have my reality dictated to me from the environment, meaning the girl. If she thinks I'm cool, then I'm cool. If she doesn't think I'm cool then I'm not cool. Well, fuck all of that. I determine how I should feel and how cool I am.
3. I'm really starting to enjoy this solo shit. I'm thinking I should do it again tmrw.
4. Oh I finally hit some state tonight too. Woot!
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