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May 25th, 2013
How long do you guys "dance" with girl before taking her out of the dance floor?Fingerin is easy:)/Help plz w/ "bad programming"
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champ

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WUT UP RSDNATION!!!!! First of all if any ladies out there read this. I mean no disrespect to women. I love women. Dont get it twisted. Sex isnt wrong and the fact that women that are promiscous get judged poorly by society BOGGLES MY MIND!!!!  I love all the ladies out there.

Went out last night and I learned SO SO MUCH ABOUT ALOT.

The thing I would love to get pointers from especially the most experienced guys out there is: Do you guys think I still have some bad programming? I think I do. Did any of you guys go through this as well and how did overcome it? 

Quick question fo the guys that do that dancefloor game. How long do you guys "dance" with girl before taking her out of the dance floor?  Had this HB7.8/7.9 girl all over me on the dance floor. I was doing whatever I wanted to her.  I think I still have some bad programming becuse I was grabbing her ass and rubbing her pussy and she was grinding her pussy and ass on my boner (I cant believe Ijust typed that smile heartRSDnation ). I think I have bad programming because I couldve fingered but didnt. It just feels too easy and a LITTLE WRONG not because I think fingering girls is wrong but because she was a complete stranger I just met at a club. Maybe its just that it was "outside my reality" and felt wrong??  <---------DO YOU GUYS AGREE THAT I STILL HAVE SOME "BAD PROGRAMMING"??

I opened the girl with "the claw" and told her "Hey". She instantly came to me like I had gravitational pull or somethin.  I hugged her. She dragged me to the dance floor. She was with a friend that the homie ended up dancing with. He did a good job of winging. Thinking about it now. Should I have had signaled the homie to take the friend out the dancefloor too so that they could stay together and we could've all vibed together. And then isolate?? Or was it cool that i tried to isolate the way that I did???

I definitely need to "improve" my "verbal game". I need to learn to use the PUA outergame well like cold reads,humor, storytelling,etc. Honestly it still feels a lil bit silly to me so I was just saying anything that came to my head. Did you guys go through a period where it felt silly to use the PUA outer game? But I definitely need to research how to become a better cold reader and story teller,etc.  "THE CLAW" IS THE SHIT!! I reccomend it.  

My other homie did finger a girl and after we left the club he was getting kinda obnoxious tellin us to smell his finger WTF!  LMAO

I took her of the dance floor to isolate and talk but on the way she let go of my hand. I thought of insisting and being ruthless like Julien said but man it feels a little wrong. I just let her walk of.  BAD PROGRAMMING??? Some feedback is much appreciated.

The thing is I was only on the dancefloor with her fo like literally 1 or 2 minutes. I NEED TO LEARN TO DANCE!!! I WAS JUST WIGGLING LOL. I need to learn to dance!! I talked to her a lil bit. Basically asked her name and told her I thought she was beautiful <------ Did I mess up by telling her that??  Do you guys tell girls they're beautiful or other compliments on the dancefloor??  I went for makeout (like Jeffy Hot Seat "basketball" hehe) but she turned her head. So we "danced" a little more and then I told her "lets go talk". She nodded. So I grabbed her wrist and led her out.

So how long do guys "work/dance/talk" to the girl on the dancefloor before you pull her out to "talk/work" her? I also picked her up and spun her : ) LMAO I couldnt  resist hehe  If I knew how to dance i would liked to dance longer with her but I CANT DANCE FO SHIT!! FUCK!!!!!!!!! I didnt feel comfortable being on the dancefloor without knowing how to dance thats why I only stayed on the dancefloor fo like a minute.

My other "approaches" went ok for my experience level. No blowouts! I opened every set and got great responses and girls were compliant with my physicality. Ill post about it..  WOOO! WOOOO!  GUYS GET OUT THERE THERES A SHITLOAD OF HOT GIRLS OUT THERE!!!!!   

I think if I couldve danced longer with her she wouldve complied with me isolating her eventhough I didnt even know where I was taking her. I was jus tlooking for the first dark corner I saw LOL.   Feedback is much appreciated.Thanks so much everyone. Thanks Tyler and RSD for freeing my mind!! And myself hehe for putting in the time hehe and hopefully I continue to "improve" very very fast.  LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL!!! Good Luck everyone!!  RSDnation#1!!
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"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting teeth." I think this is true 
"A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women'  " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"  
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number"  ;   "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ;  "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience" 
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exact 11 min. and 26 sec.
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SkinnyLover

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Lol, I would love some insights on this too. I couldn't dance for the life of me. Approached like a machine. But dancing, that is something I have to learn to to get better at. Another question in addtion to his: Is dance floor game nessasary for nightgame? A buddy of mine insisted that I have to learn to dance to "get" with the ladies...
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Its a feeling dude. It sounds like she was drunk and her BT was already high (if you're able to grab ass and rub pussy within a minute), and then you even upped it more by going for it, nice. Most the guys that hate the dance floor and can't have fun will say yeah get her off the floor as soon as possible and run standard game. That's retarded, the dance floor can be the ultimate aphrodisiac, you should capitalize on that, her BT was at a peak and probably killed it by trying to get her off the floor that fast, that's why she left, you didn't allow her to enjoy the experience and demonstrate your physical dominance. In a situation like that where the girls' that horny, I normally would mix it up, grinding face to face, from behind, get her to bend over, dry hump, pull her hair, makeout, have her put her hands on your shoulder, step off some, be fun, pull her in again, back into her, dance with and acknowlegdge her friends etc., etc keep it interesting. That said eventually that will get old and before there's a pending lull (but after establishing a connection) I try to bounce the girl to the bar.

I had a similar experience as you in one of the first girls I cold approached on the dance floor was already horny and was able to rub pussy etc., and nearly pulled that night. That really boosted my dance game confidence. Most girls aren't going to be that down that fast (unless you only hit the dance floor at last call lol). You just need to dance with a bunch of girls at different BTs and develop a feeling for what you can get away with and then when its right to mix it up and bounce off the floor.
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burner wrote:
Its a feeling dude. It sounds like she was drunk and her BT was already high (if you're able to grab ass and rub pussy within a minute), and then you even upped it more by going for it, nice. Most the guys that hate the dance floor and can't have fun will say yeah get her off the floor as soon as possible and run standard game. That's retarded, the dance floor can be the ultimate aphrodisiac, you should capitalize on that, her BT was at a peak and probably killed it by trying to get her off the floor that fast, that's why she left, you didn't allow her to enjoy the experience and demonstrate your physical dominance. In a situation like that where the girls' that horny, I normally would mix it up, grinding face to face, from behind, get her to bend over, dry hump, pull her hair, makeout, have her put her hands on your shoulder, step off some, be fun, pull her in again, back into her, dance with and acknowlegdge her friends etc., etc keep it interesting. That said eventually that will get old and before there's a pending lull (but after establishing a connection) I try to bounce the girl to the bar.

I had a similar experience as you in one of the first girls I cold approached on the dance floor was already horny and was able to rub pussy etc., and nearly pulled that night. That really boosted my dance game confidence. Most girls aren't going to be that down that fast (unless you only hit the dance floor at last call lol). You just need to dance with a bunch of girls at different BTs and develop a feeling for what you can get away with and then when its right to mix it up and bounce off the floor.


Thanks so so much patna! YEAH. I CAN TELL YOU KNOW YO SHIT!!!!   Im definitely taking dance lesson now!  Man there was so many girls on the dancefloor! Alot of hot girls.  I seen a vid on youtube by an MPUA who said "You know what guys' strategy for the dancefloor is??? To avoid it! LMAO. JEEZ LEARN TO DANCE! LEARN TO DANCE!!"  Hes right.

That was like my 4th approach of the night. After that I only approached one more girl. About bad programming: Well after that I knew I had to keep approaching and there was alot of girls left to approach. I'm not afraid to approach or anything. I think I just need to come more into congruence with doing cold approach and other inner game things. Im sure the more I do it the more I will come into congruence with it. I've always been used to getting approached and gamed at partys and work,etc. Also I need to research more about outer game like mixing "normal" conversatiion with humor and other PUA things like cold reads,etc. Ive gotten allright doing it in social circle but I think I'll start to be able do it better in cold approaches the more I go out.

I can "vibe" decently with people now but last night it wouldnt come to my head in my approaches which I'll post about. Also the great info from Julien vids about winging didnt come to my head. Damn.

I learned so much last night about ALOT of things. Cant wait to go out again!  I went out with 4 other homies in 2 seperate cars that are non-PUA but theyre down to approach and like to go out clubbin. They have like 100X more experience than me. They got allright game for being non-PUAs.  I think its cool when you roll with guys like that because you dont worry about criticisism,etc. Also I think we need to get more comfortable going out together cuz that was the first time going out with them. So that we can wing each other better and vibe better and "create  the party" better.

Also I'm starting to get my shit together. Like getting some clothes and a new car and my own apartment. WOOOOO! Once I get that together I think hopefully I can "bounce" ALOT of girls. My "sports career" is also going great!

Im very new to to cold aproach. That was the first time I've danced with a girl in a club in my life LOL.  Its fucking sweet!  Thanks so much for the advice definitely will keep it in mind. 
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"No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for yourself.....There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."
"It is not enough to know YOU MUST DO" -Bruce Lee ;    "I do and I understand"- Confuscious (Got that from Jeffy show hehe)
"Every sentence written or spoken,action, everything in the universe can be a rabbit hole to master" Me
"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting teeth." I think this is true 
"A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women'  " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"  
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number"  ;   "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ;  "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience" 
"The guys that get humor. Learned it from books" Jeffty AKA JLAIX 

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champ

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For sure next time Im gonna "dance" longer and better and "vibe more on the dancefloor",etc  For sure next time I'm not gonna let the girl walk off like that without doing anything.  I mean damn I had rubbed her pussy over her dress and she was rubbin her pussy and ass on my boner. She was probably a little drunk too.  Im definitely gonna "do something" and keep it going next time. All with freedom of outcome ofcourse,etc idea. Peace. 
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"No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for yourself.....There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."
"It is not enough to know YOU MUST DO" -Bruce Lee ;    "I do and I understand"- Confuscious (Got that from Jeffy show hehe)
"Every sentence written or spoken,action, everything in the universe can be a rabbit hole to master" Me
"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting teeth." I think this is true 
"A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women'  " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"  
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number"  ;   "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ;  "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience" 
"The guys that get humor. Learned it from books" Jeffty AKA JLAIX 

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Good stuff man. I was wondering the exact same thing actually. Two nights ago was also one of my first experiences with cold approaching in clubs, but hell was it fun. If you're there to have fun and just move to the music, girls will dance with you.

As for your situation, I don't think there are any set rules. If you and the girl is vibing well while dancing then continue and up the physical escalation even further. I know also that its important to not stay in one spot too long, but rather lead her everywhere. So yeah, at one point, you probably should've led her to the bar and built attraction and comfort.
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Man yall shouldve told me that building rapport was a crucial next part. Oh well. Thanks. Attraction - Rapport/Mid Game- SEX.
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"No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for yourself.....There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."
"It is not enough to know YOU MUST DO" -Bruce Lee ;    "I do and I understand"- Confuscious (Got that from Jeffy show hehe)
"Every sentence written or spoken,action, everything in the universe can be a rabbit hole to master" Me
"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting teeth." I think this is true 
"A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women'  " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"  
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number"  ;   "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ;  "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience" 
"The guys that get humor. Learned it from books" Jeffty AKA JLAIX 

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Are you sure she wasn't an HB 7.8362 / 7.98256



champ wrote:
WUT UP RSDNATION!!!!! First of all if any ladies out there read this. I mean no disrespect to women. I love women. Dont get it twisted. Sex isnt wrong and the fact that women that are promiscous get judged poorly by society BOGGLES MY MIND!!!!  I love all the ladies out there.

Went out last night and I learned SO SO MUCH ABOUT ALOT.

The thing I would love to get pointers from especially the most experienced guys out there is: Do you guys think I still have some bad programming? I think I do. Did any of you guys go through this as well and how did overcome it? 

Quick question fo the guys that do that dancefloor game. How long do you guys "dance" with girl before taking her out of the dance floor?  Had this HB7.8/7.9 girl all over me on the dance floor. I was doing whatever I wanted to her.  I think I still have some bad programming becuse I was grabbing her ass and rubbing her pussy and she was grinding her pussy and ass on my boner (I cant believe Ijust typed that smile heartRSDnation ). I think I have bad programming because I couldve fingered but didnt. It just feels too easy and a LITTLE WRONG not because I think fingering girls is wrong but because she was a complete stranger I just met at a club. Maybe its just that it was "outside my reality" and felt wrong??  <---------DO YOU GUYS AGREE THAT I STILL HAVE SOME "BAD PROGRAMMING"??

I opened the girl with "the claw" and told her "Hey". She instantly came to me like I had gravitational pull or somethin.  I hugged her. She dragged me to the dance floor. She was with a friend that the homie ended up dancing with. He did a good job of winging. Thinking about it now. Should I have had signaled the homie to take the friend out the dancefloor too so that they could stay together and we could've all vibed together. And then isolate?? Or was it cool that i tried to isolate the way that I did???

I definitely need to "improve" my "verbal game". I need to learn to use the PUA outergame well like cold reads,humor, storytelling,etc. Honestly it still feels a lil bit silly to me so I was just saying anything that came to my head. Did you guys go through a period where it felt silly to use the PUA outer game? But I definitely need to research how to become a better cold reader and story teller,etc.  "THE CLAW" IS THE SHIT!! I reccomend it.  

My other homie did finger a girl and after we left the club he was getting kinda obnoxious tellin us to smell his finger WTF!  LMAO

I took her of the dance floor to isolate and talk but on the way she let go of my hand. I thought of insisting and being ruthless like Julien said but man it feels a little wrong. I just let her walk of.  BAD PROGRAMMING??? Some feedback is much appreciated.

The thing is I was only on the dancefloor with her fo like literally 1 or 2 minutes. I NEED TO LEARN TO DANCE!!! I WAS JUST WIGGLING LOL. I need to learn to dance!! I talked to her a lil bit. Basically asked her name and told her I thought she was beautiful <------ Did I mess up by telling her that??  Do you guys tell girls they're beautiful or other compliments on the dancefloor??  I went for makeout (like Jeffy Hot Seat "basketball" hehe) but she turned her head. So we "danced" a little more and then I told her "lets go talk". She nodded. So I grabbed her wrist and led her out.

So how long do guys "work/dance/talk" to the girl on the dancefloor before you pull her out to "talk/work" her? I also picked her up and spun her : ) LMAO I couldnt  resist hehe  If I knew how to dance i would liked to dance longer with her but I CANT DANCE FO SHIT!! FUCK!!!!!!!!! I didnt feel comfortable being on the dancefloor without knowing how to dance thats why I only stayed on the dancefloor fo like a minute.

My other "approaches" went ok for my experience level. No blowouts! I opened every set and got great responses and girls were compliant with my physicality. Ill post about it..  WOOO! WOOOO!  GUYS GET OUT THERE THERES A SHITLOAD OF HOT GIRLS OUT THERE!!!!!   

I think if I couldve danced longer with her she wouldve complied with me isolating her eventhough I didnt even know where I was taking her. I was jus tlooking for the first dark corner I saw LOL.   Feedback is much appreciated.Thanks so much everyone. Thanks Tyler and RSD for freeing my mind!! And myself hehe for putting in the time hehe and hopefully I continue to "improve" very very fast.  LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL!!! Good Luck everyone!!  RSDnation#1!!
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