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New to Vegas-style clubs: tables, walkways, bouncer strategy?
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Not sure what this means.. I'm not looking for a magic pill... just some tactical advice. I've had a lot of success in bars where people are, for the most part, standing around, and the tables and booths are accessible to everyone in the venue. I'm just wondering how people here deal with the "place to stand" issue in these vegas-style nightclubs where the business tactic is to cut standing space to a minnimum and bouncers are constantly chasing you around.
go to XS or marquee. They have lots of space.
Yeah, man.
Lots of clubs in NY are like this- they are tough venues when the service tables is all there is. Not much advise to give.
What i tend to do is find a spot where there is a couple tables grouped together and lots of people dancing sorta in the middle of all of it so you can go and dance and do your thing with that big group of people... and nobody will know which table you're at... so nobody will kick you out cause they will just assume you're with one of the tables in the area.
Also- there is usually some sort of bar for people who don't have bottle service... hit that up.
Also- hand of god for girls at tables once you're in state... It's tough to go up to the table and actually pull a girl away, just cause guys are pretty protective of their table girls... But if you hand of god and the girl complies- then it's much higher odds you'll be good because then the guy is not just going against you but also going against the girl...
But in any event, these venues are absolutely hard if you don't have a table// aren't connected... But this stuff will help make it SLIGHTLY easier.
Lots of clubs in NY are like this- they are tough venues when the service tables is all there is. Not much advise to give.
What i tend to do is find a spot where there is a couple tables grouped together and lots of people dancing sorta in the middle of all of it so you can go and dance and do your thing with that big group of people... and nobody will know which table you're at... so nobody will kick you out cause they will just assume you're with one of the tables in the area.
Also- there is usually some sort of bar for people who don't have bottle service... hit that up.
Also- hand of god for girls at tables once you're in state... It's tough to go up to the table and actually pull a girl away, just cause guys are pretty protective of their table girls... But if you hand of god and the girl complies- then it's much higher odds you'll be good because then the guy is not just going against you but also going against the girl...
But in any event, these venues are absolutely hard if you don't have a table// aren't connected... But this stuff will help make it SLIGHTLY easier.
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The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
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Work The Room...
If your bouncing around being social/fun and having short interactions you can approach anyone and rare someone (even at the table) will bother you because only someone who LACKS social intelligence would stop someone who is having fun socializing. As you gain more and more confidence in yourself and realize your value, you could roll up to these "tables" and literally take it over.
Internally, you can't let the venue psychlogically get to you since its setup to look clique-like showing who's supposedly "cool" and who isn't. HOWEVER, when you have self worth and know your a CAUSE of good times (socially and sexually) you will see the "illusion" and sorta laugh or feel sad that all these people are CLINGING for dear life with the group and will almost NEVER interact with anyone else unless "socially acceptable" situations come up. (Bathroom line, smoke area, random glance passerby)
Next time you go to a "bottle service" venue watch how the groups almost never meet even if they're right next to each other. Many of the top venues in NY have to put a promoters table next to a rich guy and due to too many women crowding around promoter table it spills over to the rich guy table and its sorta "socially acceptable". You will almost never see 2 promoter tables right next to each other. Because when that bottle buyer buys 2 magnum champagnes which he never drinks himself he'll offer it to the girls crowding his table due to them trying to CLING to the promoters table.
Power of working the room is that you've broken the barriers and in a sense can SAVE PEOPLE and build a vibe in the whole room. By going around having short interactions allows you to meet a vast amount of people and YOU CAN ALWAYS COMEBACK...
Its like if you were the club owner at that point, knows everyone and can go to any table or group. Has the power to introduce anyone to anyone and can hang in any part of the club with a group of people. He know ALL THE CLIQUES...
On a deeper level, the cliques LOVE and WANT you since your sort of a gatekeeper. They are limited to "socially acceptable" approaches and their group. You can walk away anytime and hang with the table next to you, behind you or at the end of the other room.
Perfect example, I once rolled in a venue so pumped up that EVERY mixed group table I met and it wasn't crowded or anything. Maybe 9 true tables, 7 of them I continually kept alternating while 1 was deep in there own vibe I let them be after 2 rounds by them. The last one wasn't really a table more like 3 girls left at a table who I spoke to breifly...
- Table #1, I met doorman of one club, bugged out abit, chatting one of the guys about another night. He'd later end up giving me his table when his group left.
- Table #2, was across from #1, I met them when I noticed one of the girls and went over to them joking with 2 of them. Then I start having fun/flirting they love it, the guys are watching. 2min later I'm back at table #1 talking.
- Table #3, I kind of knew the guy and realized I knew some of his girls. While there table #4 was group bonding and I sorta was hyping them up. Anyone who walked by I also was encouraging to join in.
- Lap around the club talking to stranglers, reopened table #1 and met table #5 which was right next to #6. Back at table #3 I see a unique hottie at table #7 who I meet BUT see table #8 group bonding so I go over meet one girl but group is in the zone at the moment so I do a lap.
When I'm going around like that, if I make eye contact with guys and just ask how there feeling and if everything is all good. ALL MEN, will love you or atleast let you be because you are just doing you having fun. No one is going to stop the guy who is providing it.
If your bouncing around being social/fun and having short interactions you can approach anyone and rare someone (even at the table) will bother you because only someone who LACKS social intelligence would stop someone who is having fun socializing. As you gain more and more confidence in yourself and realize your value, you could roll up to these "tables" and literally take it over.
Internally, you can't let the venue psychlogically get to you since its setup to look clique-like showing who's supposedly "cool" and who isn't. HOWEVER, when you have self worth and know your a CAUSE of good times (socially and sexually) you will see the "illusion" and sorta laugh or feel sad that all these people are CLINGING for dear life with the group and will almost NEVER interact with anyone else unless "socially acceptable" situations come up. (Bathroom line, smoke area, random glance passerby)
Next time you go to a "bottle service" venue watch how the groups almost never meet even if they're right next to each other. Many of the top venues in NY have to put a promoters table next to a rich guy and due to too many women crowding around promoter table it spills over to the rich guy table and its sorta "socially acceptable". You will almost never see 2 promoter tables right next to each other. Because when that bottle buyer buys 2 magnum champagnes which he never drinks himself he'll offer it to the girls crowding his table due to them trying to CLING to the promoters table.
Power of working the room is that you've broken the barriers and in a sense can SAVE PEOPLE and build a vibe in the whole room. By going around having short interactions allows you to meet a vast amount of people and YOU CAN ALWAYS COMEBACK...
Its like if you were the club owner at that point, knows everyone and can go to any table or group. Has the power to introduce anyone to anyone and can hang in any part of the club with a group of people. He know ALL THE CLIQUES...
On a deeper level, the cliques LOVE and WANT you since your sort of a gatekeeper. They are limited to "socially acceptable" approaches and their group. You can walk away anytime and hang with the table next to you, behind you or at the end of the other room.
Perfect example, I once rolled in a venue so pumped up that EVERY mixed group table I met and it wasn't crowded or anything. Maybe 9 true tables, 7 of them I continually kept alternating while 1 was deep in there own vibe I let them be after 2 rounds by them. The last one wasn't really a table more like 3 girls left at a table who I spoke to breifly...
- Table #1, I met doorman of one club, bugged out abit, chatting one of the guys about another night. He'd later end up giving me his table when his group left.
- Table #2, was across from #1, I met them when I noticed one of the girls and went over to them joking with 2 of them. Then I start having fun/flirting they love it, the guys are watching. 2min later I'm back at table #1 talking.
- Table #3, I kind of knew the guy and realized I knew some of his girls. While there table #4 was group bonding and I sorta was hyping them up. Anyone who walked by I also was encouraging to join in.
- Lap around the club talking to stranglers, reopened table #1 and met table #5 which was right next to #6. Back at table #3 I see a unique hottie at table #7 who I meet BUT see table #8 group bonding so I go over meet one girl but group is in the zone at the moment so I do a lap.
When I'm going around like that, if I make eye contact with guys and just ask how there feeling and if everything is all good. ALL MEN, will love you or atleast let you be because you are just doing you having fun. No one is going to stop the guy who is providing it.
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