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Hi there!
I guess I'm kinda late with my FR since the MI was assigned two weeks ago - nevertheless I went out today, did four approaches in the prescribed manner and now post the report here.
I was out with two wings, daytime, sunny day in a german town.
Set 1: We are walking across a public place, I see a blonde cutie from about 10 meters distance, walking roughly in our direction - I kind of "sheer off" towards her and do the approach. She stops immediately no problem. I notice at first that my voice is very low, it's my first approach, am super nervous at first, but I amp up the volume and ease into it quickly. Wings feeded back later that I actually came off pretty calm during the interaction.
Me: Hi, how are you. I just saw you and I had to approach you. You seem like a cool person, and I'd like to get to know you. Do you want to hang out some time?
Her: Sorry, I'm only here for vacation and will leave tomorrow
Smalltalk about vacation ensues
Me: bye bye
Set 2: Still walking on street. See another blonde cutie, do the approach
Me: Hi, you seem to be a cool person. I'd like to get to know you.
She: Yeah I'm really in a hurry right now
Me: Which way are you heading?
She: there
Me: okay so if you don't mind I'm going to escort you and bend your ears along the way
She: uh
(I just walk along and Smalltalk a bit about the instrument-bags she is carrying with her. She engages nut soon mentiones her boyfriend)
Me: Okay, so you have a boyfriend? Listen, I'd really like to get to know you, will you give me your number anyway?
She: no
Me: ok bye
Set 3: I approached with wing, kinda indirect because two-set, random smalltalk for 5 minutes, goes well. Then wing ejects and I ask my girl:
Me: Hey you know what, I think you're a cool person and I'd like to get to know you. Do you want to give me your number?
She: um ok
This one was kind of not even out of my comfort zone because the girl was not that good looking, so I felt solidly entiteled to her throughout the interaction...
Set 4: Two asian girls (love asian girls), also kinda indirekt approach and #close in the end. This one looked pretty hot though, but logistics are wired against me.
Other stuff that happened throughout the day:
- I "pulled" a girl who would walk on after the approach back using just my voice and not moving from the spot myself
- Some harsh rejections I luckily can't even remember that well right now
- Several "smalltalk"-sets that weren't going anywhere
- we run into a couple of hens night outings in which I kissed some of them on the cheek... (yawn)
- later on I and a wing ended the day with an instant date with a two set. Fun at the beginning, but basiically I viewed it more and more as a waste of time as it became clear that things weren't going to go anywhere logistically at least for me, wing #closed the other gurl
After writing this down I re-watched the MI-video and noticed that I might have failed to meet some details of the MI (like I went on the "walk to nowhere" on the Set 2) oh yeah and i could have pushed things further lots of times probably. But I went for the #close and expressed honest interest in 4 sets. Also they were all moving sets and I stopped them.
So yeah, I've posted this kind of late, but I would be super psyched to get a replie on this. Especially I would like to know your opinion on this:
- Getting physical (right off the bat) in the night club is very essential to my game at the moment. I just love to claw, to hug and literally pick up, grind on the dancefloor, move the chicks around and makeout throughout the night. My daygame session today involved none of these and thus felt kinda boring and, to be honest, a bit like a waste of time. Yeah maybe I'll have some day twos out of this, but it's just not that on as it is after meeting girls at the nightclub.
So does anyone here get physical during daygame on the street? How exactly?
I guess I'm kinda late with my FR since the MI was assigned two weeks ago - nevertheless I went out today, did four approaches in the prescribed manner and now post the report here.
I was out with two wings, daytime, sunny day in a german town.
Set 1: We are walking across a public place, I see a blonde cutie from about 10 meters distance, walking roughly in our direction - I kind of "sheer off" towards her and do the approach. She stops immediately no problem. I notice at first that my voice is very low, it's my first approach, am super nervous at first, but I amp up the volume and ease into it quickly. Wings feeded back later that I actually came off pretty calm during the interaction.
Me: Hi, how are you. I just saw you and I had to approach you. You seem like a cool person, and I'd like to get to know you. Do you want to hang out some time?
Her: Sorry, I'm only here for vacation and will leave tomorrow
Smalltalk about vacation ensues
Me: bye bye
Set 2: Still walking on street. See another blonde cutie, do the approach
Me: Hi, you seem to be a cool person. I'd like to get to know you.
She: Yeah I'm really in a hurry right now
Me: Which way are you heading?
She: there
Me: okay so if you don't mind I'm going to escort you and bend your ears along the way
She: uh
(I just walk along and Smalltalk a bit about the instrument-bags she is carrying with her. She engages nut soon mentiones her boyfriend)
Me: Okay, so you have a boyfriend? Listen, I'd really like to get to know you, will you give me your number anyway?
She: no
Me: ok bye
Set 3: I approached with wing, kinda indirect because two-set, random smalltalk for 5 minutes, goes well. Then wing ejects and I ask my girl:
Me: Hey you know what, I think you're a cool person and I'd like to get to know you. Do you want to give me your number?
She: um ok
This one was kind of not even out of my comfort zone because the girl was not that good looking, so I felt solidly entiteled to her throughout the interaction...
Set 4: Two asian girls (love asian girls), also kinda indirekt approach and #close in the end. This one looked pretty hot though, but logistics are wired against me.
Other stuff that happened throughout the day:
- I "pulled" a girl who would walk on after the approach back using just my voice and not moving from the spot myself
- Some harsh rejections I luckily can't even remember that well right now
- Several "smalltalk"-sets that weren't going anywhere
- we run into a couple of hens night outings in which I kissed some of them on the cheek... (yawn)
- later on I and a wing ended the day with an instant date with a two set. Fun at the beginning, but basiically I viewed it more and more as a waste of time as it became clear that things weren't going to go anywhere logistically at least for me, wing #closed the other gurl
After writing this down I re-watched the MI-video and noticed that I might have failed to meet some details of the MI (like I went on the "walk to nowhere" on the Set 2) oh yeah and i could have pushed things further lots of times probably. But I went for the #close and expressed honest interest in 4 sets. Also they were all moving sets and I stopped them.
So yeah, I've posted this kind of late, but I would be super psyched to get a replie on this. Especially I would like to know your opinion on this:
- Getting physical (right off the bat) in the night club is very essential to my game at the moment. I just love to claw, to hug and literally pick up, grind on the dancefloor, move the chicks around and makeout throughout the night. My daygame session today involved none of these and thus felt kinda boring and, to be honest, a bit like a waste of time. Yeah maybe I'll have some day twos out of this, but it's just not that on as it is after meeting girls at the nightclub.
So does anyone here get physical during daygame on the street? How exactly?
The last time I got physical in daygame was very recently.
I just shouted at a girl, she lightened up (for some reason), and we started talking to each other as if we were best friends, etc. (hugging each other).
I also had a couple times where I felt like I should move in for a kiss in daytime.
Although going physical is exactly my weakest point right now (as well as leading/being assertive). From what I read, you are more comfortable than me (grinding on the dancefloor, picking up girls, etc... I just claw at most : P ).
As for moving sets, I liked the part where Todd said "make it more awkward for her not to stop". That's what I did the last couple weeks. "Pretty/permission boy" approaches, as Julien says, are not good enough : ).
Yeah, got lots of girls stop. Forgot what happened next, but some hooked, others didn't, others got interested, but then I said something and they lost interest (nightgame) : P.
I just shouted at a girl, she lightened up (for some reason), and we started talking to each other as if we were best friends, etc. (hugging each other).
I also had a couple times where I felt like I should move in for a kiss in daytime.
Although going physical is exactly my weakest point right now (as well as leading/being assertive). From what I read, you are more comfortable than me (grinding on the dancefloor, picking up girls, etc... I just claw at most : P ).
As for moving sets, I liked the part where Todd said "make it more awkward for her not to stop". That's what I did the last couple weeks. "Pretty/permission boy" approaches, as Julien says, are not good enough : ).
Yeah, got lots of girls stop. Forgot what happened next, but some hooked, others didn't, others got interested, but then I said something and they lost interest (nightgame) : P.
Yo guys. I am very surprised that there are so few FR here. Todd is doing a great job by doing these Mission impossibles for us and you don't take action? Anyone who has seen the video for moving sets has NO EXCUSE to not go out and try the things that are explained.
My Field report:
Where: My university. It's INSANE how many hot girls are there.
Who: Me. ALONE.
Mission Impossible: Open 4 moving sets; Get them to stop; Chat and show some kind of intent (e.g. they should get you don't want to just be friend with them); Close (or at least try).
The story:
So here I am in my university. Girls all around me. During the breaks the hallway becomes full with people and full with hot girls. Too full (at least my mind is telling me this).
I am committed at stopping at least 4 sets no matter what.
Now, my ability for remembering dialogues between me and the girls is close to zero. I don't find it so relevant.
What is RELEVANT though are my feelings and sensations in my body, my thoughts and my counsciouss decisions and actions.
I was self-doubting myself in my head the whole time. Plus that I felt paranoid that people will look at me negatively if I approach them or if they see me approach. In most cases I expected that the girls are not going to be attracted to me. I was in my head. Nevertheless, I decided to finish this damn mission and JUST DO IT.
I let many possibilities pass by me because I wasnt able to take advantage of them- I saw many girls I wanted to approach but didnt act. In order to compensate for that I stayed out longer (about 3-4 hours) until I felt I have completed my mission.
Here are the four sets:
1) I see this sexy looking girl's back (and her awesome ass also). What I notice about her is that she's dressed very sexy and I love it. She's walking pretty fast so I run to her. Tap her on the shoulder and say something like "Hey, I love the way you are dressed. I am Name". She stops for 5 secs, says "thanks, but I am in a hurry" and continues. I let her take 3-4 steps and run again to her, trying to sound breaking rapport and stop her again (honestly I don't remember what I said). Turns out she has a meeting soon and she's searching for a place with a printer so she can print some documents. I tell her I will walk with her to the nearest place (She wasnt attracted enough to go for the phone directly and I was going to lose her if I insist to stay. She was really in a hurry). We walk to the place with the printer while we chat. We enter and I feel a bit insecure because I am waiting for her to finish printing her damn documents and I ask boring questions just to continue the conversation. We go out and continue to chat. Then she tells me she gotta go for the meeting and starts leaving. I tell her to give me her phone number. She says no and continues. I project my voice a little bit (I wasn't feeling unstifled in that place) and tell her to stop. She stops for a lil bit , I go to her and ask for her phone number 2-3 times more and she gives it to me saying "yeah, we could go drink some coffee together".
What I like about this interaction?
-I took immediate action.
-I was completely genuine and direct with my opening line. I gave her a compliment about the thing that really caught my eye.
-I was fucking persistent. I had to stop her from running away like 3 times. I was also persistent with the number close.
What could be better?
-My voice projection during the opening.
-My centeredness. I was more in my head deciding what to do than being in my body and taking that natural intent out.
2)A lot of time goes by. I open some girls that are staying on one spot (that doesnt respond to the mission's requirements) and go to open some moving sets but they don't stop or they stop for a second. I see this girl that is eating kebap and is walking toward me. About 3 meters in front of me I say "Hey (eye contact) you look cool! Are you really eating this unhealthy stuff..." She stops for a few seconds and start to go in the other direction. I don't care and I continue the conversation by hooking her with questions that she has to answer (in order to not leave) and then giving her statements about the questions' topics. I don't remember exactly what I said but I remember that she attempted to leave about 3 times. Every time I continued talking like I didnt hear it. It was like
She: I'll go now.
Me: So tell me....
And again. Also, she asked me whether I do this all the time (stopping girls on the street), she told me I am crazy, and that it looks like everything I say is memorized and canned(actually none of it was canned, but I wasn't vibing freely. I was a bit in my head searching for words). I thought "Yeah, probably she's right... I know I am not in my ideal state and I know that she's using this to test me whether I will react emotionally to her remarks. I will just continue". So in the end I get her phone number.
What I like about it?.
-The persistance and the way I didn't really cared about her remarks even though maybe she was right.
What could be better?
-I should've be outside my head more, not caring about where the conversation goes.
3)I see this cute girl walking alone in my direction. So I say "Hey..." She looks at me and I open her with... I don't remember actually. We start chatting and she likes it. After a few minutes I propose to her to drink coffee with me somewhere, but she says she has to meet her friends (I do this for 2 reasons- if she comes it's great and if she doesnt it's easier to get the phone number after that. She declines the bigger investment- the instant date- and the lesser investment seems easier- the phone number). I get the phone number and go.
4) 2 minutes after the last approach I see this girl walking in my direction so I open directlly saying I love the way she looks. She stops and we start chatting. I joke about me and her being together (I show that way that I like her as a girl in a humourous way) and she says she has a boyfriend. So when I go for the phone number she declines. I ask for it again and she declines again. I try to use logic to make her give it to me but it doesnt hit. I continue on my way.
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Thoughts and lessons
Why was I in such uneffective state?
-I was confused from reading too much theory these days. My head was full of pick-up concepts which made me overthink and I fell in a downspiral of thoughts-feelings-expectations-reactions.
-Consciously opening moving sets was a challenge for me.
-I was beating myself up when I didnt take action.
What I loved about this experience?
Yes, I didn't feel great and I didn't feel very natural when I took action. But I used my willpower to go through the motions anyway. Thoughts of leaving and going home came up in my mind many times but I didn't act on them (I reminded to myself the vision I'm after in this area of my life). When I did the fourth approach I felt quite drained (using willpower to make decisions that are against your emotions is like a sports training- it drains you but you become stronger) and unwilling to do more approaches for today, BUT I also felt satisfied for completing the mission.
One thing is sure- I learned how to open moving sets better and I also trained my willpower today.
Thanks for reading and thanks to Todd for the mission impossible.
My Field report:
Where: My university. It's INSANE how many hot girls are there.
Who: Me. ALONE.
Mission Impossible: Open 4 moving sets; Get them to stop; Chat and show some kind of intent (e.g. they should get you don't want to just be friend with them); Close (or at least try).
The story:
So here I am in my university. Girls all around me. During the breaks the hallway becomes full with people and full with hot girls. Too full (at least my mind is telling me this).
I am committed at stopping at least 4 sets no matter what.
Now, my ability for remembering dialogues between me and the girls is close to zero. I don't find it so relevant.
What is RELEVANT though are my feelings and sensations in my body, my thoughts and my counsciouss decisions and actions.
I was self-doubting myself in my head the whole time. Plus that I felt paranoid that people will look at me negatively if I approach them or if they see me approach. In most cases I expected that the girls are not going to be attracted to me. I was in my head. Nevertheless, I decided to finish this damn mission and JUST DO IT.
I let many possibilities pass by me because I wasnt able to take advantage of them- I saw many girls I wanted to approach but didnt act. In order to compensate for that I stayed out longer (about 3-4 hours) until I felt I have completed my mission.
Here are the four sets:
1) I see this sexy looking girl's back (and her awesome ass also). What I notice about her is that she's dressed very sexy and I love it. She's walking pretty fast so I run to her. Tap her on the shoulder and say something like "Hey, I love the way you are dressed. I am Name". She stops for 5 secs, says "thanks, but I am in a hurry" and continues. I let her take 3-4 steps and run again to her, trying to sound breaking rapport and stop her again (honestly I don't remember what I said). Turns out she has a meeting soon and she's searching for a place with a printer so she can print some documents. I tell her I will walk with her to the nearest place (She wasnt attracted enough to go for the phone directly and I was going to lose her if I insist to stay. She was really in a hurry). We walk to the place with the printer while we chat. We enter and I feel a bit insecure because I am waiting for her to finish printing her damn documents and I ask boring questions just to continue the conversation. We go out and continue to chat. Then she tells me she gotta go for the meeting and starts leaving. I tell her to give me her phone number. She says no and continues. I project my voice a little bit (I wasn't feeling unstifled in that place) and tell her to stop. She stops for a lil bit , I go to her and ask for her phone number 2-3 times more and she gives it to me saying "yeah, we could go drink some coffee together".
What I like about this interaction?
-I took immediate action.
-I was completely genuine and direct with my opening line. I gave her a compliment about the thing that really caught my eye.
-I was fucking persistent. I had to stop her from running away like 3 times. I was also persistent with the number close.
What could be better?
-My voice projection during the opening.
-My centeredness. I was more in my head deciding what to do than being in my body and taking that natural intent out.
2)A lot of time goes by. I open some girls that are staying on one spot (that doesnt respond to the mission's requirements) and go to open some moving sets but they don't stop or they stop for a second. I see this girl that is eating kebap and is walking toward me. About 3 meters in front of me I say "Hey (eye contact) you look cool! Are you really eating this unhealthy stuff..." She stops for a few seconds and start to go in the other direction. I don't care and I continue the conversation by hooking her with questions that she has to answer (in order to not leave) and then giving her statements about the questions' topics. I don't remember exactly what I said but I remember that she attempted to leave about 3 times. Every time I continued talking like I didnt hear it. It was like
She: I'll go now.
Me: So tell me....
And again. Also, she asked me whether I do this all the time (stopping girls on the street), she told me I am crazy, and that it looks like everything I say is memorized and canned(actually none of it was canned, but I wasn't vibing freely. I was a bit in my head searching for words). I thought "Yeah, probably she's right... I know I am not in my ideal state and I know that she's using this to test me whether I will react emotionally to her remarks. I will just continue". So in the end I get her phone number.
What I like about it?.
-The persistance and the way I didn't really cared about her remarks even though maybe she was right.
What could be better?
-I should've be outside my head more, not caring about where the conversation goes.
3)I see this cute girl walking alone in my direction. So I say "Hey..." She looks at me and I open her with... I don't remember actually. We start chatting and she likes it. After a few minutes I propose to her to drink coffee with me somewhere, but she says she has to meet her friends (I do this for 2 reasons- if she comes it's great and if she doesnt it's easier to get the phone number after that. She declines the bigger investment- the instant date- and the lesser investment seems easier- the phone number). I get the phone number and go.
4) 2 minutes after the last approach I see this girl walking in my direction so I open directlly saying I love the way she looks. She stops and we start chatting. I joke about me and her being together (I show that way that I like her as a girl in a humourous way) and she says she has a boyfriend. So when I go for the phone number she declines. I ask for it again and she declines again. I try to use logic to make her give it to me but it doesnt hit. I continue on my way.
-----
Thoughts and lessons
Why was I in such uneffective state?
-I was confused from reading too much theory these days. My head was full of pick-up concepts which made me overthink and I fell in a downspiral of thoughts-feelings-expectations-reactions.
-Consciously opening moving sets was a challenge for me.
-I was beating myself up when I didnt take action.
What I loved about this experience?
Yes, I didn't feel great and I didn't feel very natural when I took action. But I used my willpower to go through the motions anyway. Thoughts of leaving and going home came up in my mind many times but I didn't act on them (I reminded to myself the vision I'm after in this area of my life). When I did the fourth approach I felt quite drained (using willpower to make decisions that are against your emotions is like a sports training- it drains you but you become stronger) and unwilling to do more approaches for today, BUT I also felt satisfied for completing the mission.
One thing is sure- I learned how to open moving sets better and I also trained my willpower today.
Thanks for reading and thanks to Todd for the mission impossible.
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Todd
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Join Date: 08/20/2006 | Posts: 810
I cannot limit myself to 4 approaches after demonic confidence, i just do everything- I run after girls, I cross street just to met them, I stop them in their car while they wait, I enter grocery shop if I see cute girl inside. As Tyler once said: "World is your playground".
Force yourself to do what's right. You'll thank yourself in the morning.
Stop trying to make it work; start trying to make it epic.
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