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What are the fundamentals tyler speaks about?
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trunx

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i searched tyler fundamentals, but couldn find a list of them.
also i noticed some people have asked what they are, but none can answer the question, like there is no official version/knowledge of the fundamentals tyler speaks about a lot,
if anyone knows them please post them
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egotrippin

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Fundementals are things like eye contact, voval tonality, your frame, having good confident posture, not leaning in when talking with the girls...

Alot of its covered in their program foundations and some other dvds like flawless natural.

But you're right, this isnt super clearly defined somewhere for someone to find.

I want to hear the "25 point checklist" that I've heard jeffy mention!
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egotrippin wrote:
I want to hear the "25 point checklist" that I've heard jeffy mention!
www.rsdnation.com/node/60062
WARNING: Following a list this long may get you inside your head. I guess that's why they don't use it anymore.
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The list is very useful but I think it's something that newbies will just memorize and beat themselves up about if they screw one or two things up on the list in an interaction. This is pretty detrimental, I would say just learn about this stuff naturally through social observation, go out in the field and make mistakes (the ones in this list), after a certain amount of time you'll just naturally follow it.
Awesome wrote:

egotrippin wrote:
I want to hear the "25 point checklist" that I've heard jeffy mention!
www.rsdnation.com/node/60062
WARNING: Following a list this long may get you inside your head. I guess that's why they don't use it anymore.
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Most important fundamaental IMO is being "in your element" or being in state. I just came home from a place where I was really REALLY out of my element and was shot down with pretty much every approach. I just felt like I did not belong there and no matter how good your verbal or physical game is its not gonna matter if you are not in state. Chicks (or pretty much anyone with high value who isn't some chode) is gonna pick up on it and completely shut you down. So make every place you enter feel familiar, this way you can feel comfortable as if it is your stomping ground.
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bump anyone knows the fundamentals?
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So part of the problem with that 25 point checklist that isn't covered is that all those points are entirely interconnected. You could encapsulate most of them by saying "Be the buyer, not the seller."

When I think fundamentals, I think:

Loud voice with slightly breaking rapport tonality

Strong eye contact. *

Get physical quickly, don't miss windows, and step back quickly when she's uncomfortable, then go back to where she was originally fine.

Yellow light.

Don't block her exit. This means don't lock her into a wall or corner.

Grab her phone number about 2 minutes in.

Make your intent clear ASAP.

Be the buyer, not the seller.

Be free of the outcome.

* There's a lot of nuance for eye contact. For a newbie you should simply focus on keeping focused on the girls eyes and only breaking deliberately when she breaks, or when you have to think about something but never breaking to diffuse tension.
Well I guess there's tons of nuance with all of these points, I learn more exceptions and caviats to them all the time and I'm only a year in.
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Top:

Intent: Clarity of thoughts words and actions
Freedom from outcome
Social momentum

Inner consequence:

State transfer
Buyer/Seller dynamic
Communicating man to woman

Outer consequence:

Eye contact
Vocal tonality
Physical rapport

Check out the videos on the front page, you will hear this over and over again so when you fuck up in field and recognize your mistakes, you can internalize the lesson to get better slowly over long periods of time by overcoming limiting beliefs, plateaus and success bearings.

If you go out consistently you are telling your brain that no matter what happens you will learn eventually and this will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

For the most part all that matters is that you assume value, be congruent and move things forward while overcoming shit tests, like learning the importance of plowing and leading. That's it.
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GREAT GREAT GREAT breakdown.

Wow. Going out right now, but just wanted to stop by and say that this post has a TON of value.


VisionsDivine wrote:

Top:

Intent: Clarity of thoughts words and actions
Freedom from outcome
Social momentum

Inner consequence:

State transfer
Buyer/Seller dynamic
Communicating man to woman

Outer consequence:

Eye contact
Vocal tonality
Physical rapport

Check out the videos on the front page, you will hear this over and over again so when you fuck up in field and recognize your mistakes, you can internalize the lessons to get better slowly over long periods of time by overcoming limiting beliefs, plateaus and success bearings.

If you go out consistently you are telling your brain that no matter what happens you will learn eventually and this will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

For the most part all that matters is that you assume value, be congruent and move things forward while overcoming shit tests, like learning the importance of plowing and leading. That's it.
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 Foundations
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