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FYI Will Smith is "into scientology"
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#31

FinnV

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No. One is weird, creepy, and dangerous. The other is Scientology.

(RSD is an exception)
SpikeSpiegel wrote:
pickup is just as much of a weird cult as scientology is
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iRyan

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The Scientology website is actually pretty cool it just seems like self help stuff to me if you ignore the weird shit like aliens and stuff like that :)

They say they hate psychology but they seem to be obsessed with the mind like in this vid??
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iRyan wrote:
The Scientology website is actually pretty cool it just seems like self help stuff to me if you ignore the weird shit like aliens and stuff like that :)

They say they hate psychology but they seem to be obsessed with the mind like in this vid??




That's the point. Bash your competition, position yourself in the market as the alternative. Mormons and jehovahs witnesses do the same thing. This is what cults do.
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Actually those kinds of threads already exist on different forums.  

Some Tyler vid was on wickedfire.com (internet marketing forum) in the "your favorite success videos" and its like "This guy is into picking up girls but I thought this video was really amazing and inspiring."  

I was guessing he'd have shit on bodybuilding.com but apparently noone cares lol:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141858741&page=1
SpikeSpiegel wrote:
 incoming thread on scientology forum: I SEE ALL THESE THREADS PRAISING THIS SELF-DEVELOPMENT SPEAKER OWEN COOK, BUT DID YOU KNOW HE'S A PICK UP ARTISTTTTTT?
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Yeah, the funny thing is, the part I do somewhat agree with is the anti-PSYCHIATRY shit, where they don't believe in prescribing drugs for mental disorders.  I especially agree for depression and bipolar, but I've never met anyone who actually had schizophrenia, but if you look at a video of a guy like this:





You realize that "Uh, I don't think DRUGS are the to 'fix' this guy."  

But you also realize that there is some amazingness to their brains.  

I've always found it interesting that a lot of "pickup theory" (at least at RSD) correlates to certain mental disorders, like a lot of the improv stuff used for verbal game is us mimicing what schizophrenics supposedly do automatically (e.g. following loose assocations between topics) but they just happen to do it to such a far degree that it is literally 


Like even look at the nih.gov's summary of what this "disease" is...

Quote:

Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it hard to:
- Tell the difference between what is real and not real
- Think clearly
- Have normal emotional responses
- Act normally in social situations


Sounds semi related to pickup, huh?  


But back to scientology, the funny thing is also check out some of this scientology documentary (30 mins on the BBC, there are 3 more points):



I actually see parallels between how Jeffy's behavior and Tommy Davis's behavior (the scientologist).  They're both EXTREMELY self-assured, very absorbed in their own point of view, not interested in the other point of view, and, well, good at "manipulation" (or at least what one author calls manipulation).  You all should learn about this "skill" of manipulation, because its not what it sounds like, its more of a way of just being a fast talker in a way that gets a not 100% grounded person to falter.  See this book for more on manipulation.  (Which really is "good verbal game that lets you express your POV succinctly gets you to make the girl feel emotions".)  

Now the thing about this is, I'm saying shit that's very "loaded" -- words like Scientology, manipulation, have emotional meanings to them, but if you read that book (very good, you'll find that you "use manipulative tactics" often and you also may have them "used on you" often) you'll learn a lot, and its a quick read.  Don't let that catch you off guard is all I'm saying.  Yes, its almost like having a book in your home saying "How to make nuclear bombs" but...as a person with good intentions, you might just have interest in learning about physics and engineering.  Except its about social dynamics.  

But quick example of Jeffy's, I would say is he calls girls "manipulative and toying with my emotions."  

An example of the Scientologist's tactic is when the reporter is asking "Now, some OTHER people have told me that Scientologist is a cult.  Dur dur dur.  What do you have to say ..."
Scientologist's response: "WOW.  You come into MY CHURCH and are making ACCUSATIONS.  What in the fuck?  This is insane behavior, this is DEROGITARY."  

The thing I found so amazing about the Scientologist's response was that he called the word cult (which he would not even repeat) is that he called it DEROGITORY.  

What's so funny about this is I was reading one of their "courses" online on Goal Setting (called "Targets & Goals") and it makes specific reference to stuff like this "If you are reading something and get lost on a page, that means you missed the meaning on a particular word somewhere in the last page."  As a sidenote, this, very interestingly, happens to all people ALL THE TIME, so they are doing CLASSICAL CONDITIONING to you...they found a CUE (read "The Power of Habit" for more on this) that happens every day.  But I digress.  Back to the point, is that they have this focus on "if you are stuck at a particular point, you GO BACK and fix it from THAT POINT onward."  Its very OCD and shit, actually.  

Doing so much reading lately, weird to see a lot of ideas coming together, just as I express this.  
iRyan wrote:
The Scientology website is actually pretty cool it just seems like self help stuff to me if you ignore the weird shit like aliens and stuff like that :)

They say they hate psychology but they seem to be obsessed with the mind like in this vid??

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#36

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Tyler wrote:
It's not entirely clear why all these movies stars are into Scientology, I could guess but it would be speculation.  It's possible it's just a way for them to socialize with eachother or something or maybe they get perks.

Tyler
Sounds about rght, as I understand the are "celebrity only" centres and a big fucking cruise ship continually sailing around the world where the all chill out and worship ailiens and shit! ;)
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Scientology traffics slaves. It's a seriously deranged organisation.
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 I want to say that YES, WIll Smith IS into Scientology.

I know this because:
He donates to scientology projects
He is a HUGE proponent of scientology projects, especially education
His success interviews are very scientology-ish

I just hate that some of the good ideas of this cult are discounted because they are from this cult. 
I don't know if WS is actually a scientologist, but I'm pretty sure he supports them.
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