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March 23rd, 2017
FYI Will Smith is "into scientology"
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UtopiaFive

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I remember seeing some thread recently praising Will Smith with this "this video is awesome" comment.  

I realized that "Will Smith success" videos are pretty commonplace, and was wondering "Why is he more or less qualified to talk about success than any other actor?"  The truth is, you DON'T hear a ton of actors talking about it, and you don't see "success minded groups" talking about every other actor.  

Tom Cruise is a guy who says some pretty good stuff overall, but then people discount him because "he's a scientologist."  

Well Will Smith has donated a good amount of money to Scientology as well.  

Apparently a lot of what they talk about is self-help types of stuff, and they hate psychology and psychiatry with a passion.  

If you look at a random Church of Scientology website there will be stuff like "Are you curious about who you are?  Click here to take a personality test..." or "Achieve confidence and self-respect: Take a dianetics seminar."  This stuff sounds like anything else someone like myself would read.  

But there also happens to be a ton of weird controversy surrounding "these people."  

I found this thread:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/91273

from back in 2008 of people discussing the stuff, and there's a lot of CREEPY links in there.  

Yep I'm reading a lot of weird shit lately, not really sure why, perhaps because I am bored LOL.  

BTW I'm even more curious about why I'm so curious about this shit...than I am curious about Scientology.  It seems that there must be some sort of a "science to creating intrigue and drama" -- and for some reason the stuff in mainstream media is uninteresting to me, yet this "underground weird stuff" catches my attention more.  

I guess what's so interesting is they preach stuff like self-confidence, eating a healthy diet, taking vitamins, rather than psychiatric drugs, but then they have scandalous shit like member's taking baths so hot their flesh burns off, and their "seminar hotel" getting 911 called very often, and somehow "police not being allowed entrance to the hotel" -- WTF?  I guess of course a "big secret powerful organization" is going to catch someone's interest, if they're interested in increasing their "truth" and "power" (2 of the 3 main parts of Intelligence, says Steve Pavlina.  Intelligence = Truth + Love + Power.)  

FYI I also am reading about polar bears drinking coca cola and killing people, habits, and Apache Indians.  
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UtopiaFive

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What a weird question to ask, as the 3rd question, on their "personality test":
"Do you browse through railway timetables, directories, or dictionaries just for pleasure?"

WTF?
"Do you get occasional twitches of your muscles, when there is no logical reason for it?"
"Does an unexpected action cause your muscles to twitch?"

I don't know why, but this "quiz" is getting creepy...
http://www.oca.scientology.org/oca.php
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AustinCC

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Scientology is wierd and stupid, but i think will smith's success is like any other highly-motivated person, except he's an actor. His job is to be able to communicate.
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More questions that are just eerie haha:
"Could you agree to strict discipline?"
"Would the idea of making a complete new start cause you much concern?"

AKA "Are you ready to become one of us?"
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"Would you "buy on credit" with the hope that you can keep up the payments?"
--> AKA how much money will we be able to cash you out for?  

LOL WTF
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 It seems kinda cool but at the same time like it's a cult trying to be a cult. 
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 Scientology is business, masked as a religion, masked as a self help group.

Doesn't take a genius to see what fucked up places that will take you.
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Hah, so you take this 120 question "test" and then they tell you "please show up at a Church of Scientology location to receive your test evaluation."  

Makes sense why they ask "What's your nearest CoS location?" beforehand.  
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 I've said this before the issue with systems like scientology or kaballah, is that they start off decently well, teach you to remove emotional baggage, limiting beliefs, "twitches", etc., but rather than remain a blank slate as Tolle says, to just stay present.. they try to fill your head with THEIR doctrine, their belief system, their bullshit. 
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Sounds like a blatant scam.

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Steve Pavlina was open-minded to it, in addition to a ton of other belief systems:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/questioning-your-beliefs/

Quote:

I even tried Scientology for a few months to see what that was like. I thought to myself, “Now here’s a context so many people view as completely wacko, but clearly that can’t be how the people on the inside view it.” I wanted to find out for myself, so I popped into one of their centers and basically said, “Assimilate me.” And they were more than happy to do so. I read Dianetics and took a couple courses on the basics of Scientology. Other members taught me how to do auditing (both giving and receiving), and I spent many hours at their center until I felt I had a good grasp of the basics and understood the context from the inside, including how Scientologists viewed non-Scientologists.

That was a fascinating experience. On the one hand, I definitely found some cult-like patterns there (most of which were shared with mainstream religions though). On the other hand, I found the Scientologists to be some of a nicest people I’d met, and the children seemed far beyond their years in terms of their level of awareness and consciousness. One thing I didn’t like about Scientology though was that it was nearly impossible to get off their mailing list — I received weekly mailings from them for about 5 years after quitting, even after moving several times.
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