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July 20th, 2017
Overcome your limiting beliefs...and DIE (James Arthur Ray, from "The Secret," is in jail)
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UtopiaFive

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Somehow I didn't read about this til now...

James Arthur Ray, from "The Secret," is in jail ---
http://abcnews.go.com/US/james-arthur-ray-sentenced-sweat-lodge-deaths/s...

Not to say or imply I'm better than this in any way, but...I guess this is what CAN happen if you don't think for yourself.  
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Jake454

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 the 3 people died in a sweat lodge "inncodent" if any one is wondering. lol yeah heres the answer to this(I was watching it today)

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The Mack

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 lol they say hell help those in prison
wow either he really is that badass or hes an idiot
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UtopiaFive

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Interesting.

Well the guy truly believes he is innocent. You do want to choose an empowering meaning...and I guess that is empoering enough...
The Mack wrote:
 lol they say hell help those in prison
wow either he really is that badass or hes an idiot
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UtopiaFive

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Wow, cool video actually...


Jake454 wrote:
 the 3 people died in a sweat lodge "inncodent" if any one is wondering. lol yeah heres the answer to this(I was watching it today)


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I think what happens with James Ray fucken sucks.

(I also think what happened to the people who DIED sucks a lot MORE MORE FUCKEN MORE...)

But imagine you're a regular guy, you get stumble into the self development industry through whatever way it was he did it, and a typical aspect of the industry is some sort of "outside the box" experience where people push themselves.

Tony Robbins does the firewalk, Marshal Sylver does sword swallowing, PSI seminars does this thing where you jump off of this tall pole.  At RSD we do the infield stuff, etc.

So you look into this sweat lodge thing, maybe it's a bit fake ass or whatever, but people like it and have a good experience with it.  Then the people who you trust to run it fuck it up, and let's say you're just a BIT lazy that day, like any day you forget your keys or some stupid shit like that.  And people DIE.

Fuck the jail time, that's not even remotely the worst part.  It's the fact that in your mind FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE you killed people.  Every moment for the rest of your existence, this will ALWAYS be there.

And all the work you did to get ahead, or to help other people, amounted to what?  People DYING.  That's absolutely fucked up and it's a total shame that happened to him, even if he's some douchebag or whatever as some people claim (which anybody can say anything about anyone...) it's just a fucken biatch any way you look at it.

But end of the day if you're gonna do something like a sweat lodge, you gotta cross your T's and dot your I's as far as ensuring the safety, and he failed to do that.  So he's gotta live with it, and the people who died gotta die with it, and their families gotta mourn.  It's a human error and a fucken shame.

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Didi you read the wikipedia entry of that guy'? it explains detailedly the context in which these people died. A totally shady and fake cernemony with imprsonations of native people, lethaly poorly connstructed lodges, and obscenes amount of money being charged for elements of basic need...


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Meh, I wouldn't worry too much about him. He will just rationalise it away. Someone else's fault or something.
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 Why can't he use The Secret to get him out of jail?

sidenote:reminds me of Gunwitch lol
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UtopiaFive

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Wikipedia...
He's been doing shady stuff since 2005.


Tyler wrote:
I think what happens with James Ray fucken sucks.

(I also think what happened to the people who DIED sucks a lot MORE MORE FUCKEN MORE...)

But imagine you're a regular guy, you get stumble into the self development industry through whatever way it was he did it, and a typical aspect of the industry is some sort of "outside the box" experience where people push themselves.

Tony Robbins does the firewalk, Marshal Sylver does sword swallowing, PSI seminars does this thing where you jump off of this tall pole.  At RSD we do the infield stuff, etc.

So you look into this sweat lodge thing, maybe it's a bit fake ass or whatever, but people like it and have a good experience with it.  Then the people who you trust to run it fuck it up, and let's say you're just a BIT lazy that day, like any day you forget your keys or some stupid shit like that.  And people DIE.

Fuck the jail time, that's not even remotely the worst part.  It's the fact that in your mind FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE you killed people.  Every moment for the rest of your existence, this will ALWAYS be there.

And all the work you did to get ahead, or to help other people, amounted to what?  People DYING.  That's absolutely fucked up and it's a total shame that happened to him, even if he's some douchebag or whatever as some people claim (which anybody can say anything about anyone...) it's just a fucken biatch any way you look at it.

But end of the day if you're gonna do something like a sweat lodge, you gotta cross your T's and dot your I's as far as ensuring the safety, and he failed to do that.  So he's gotta live with it, and the people who died gotta die with it, and their families gotta mourn.  It's a human error and a fucken shame.

Tyler 
Kid Nikus Sevolfejj wrote:
Didi you read the wikipedia entry of that guy'? it explains detailedly the context in which these people died. A totally shady and fake cernemony with imprsonations of native people, lethaly poorly connstructed lodges, and obscenes amount of money being charged for elements of basic need...



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600 days for the deaths of 3 people is as good as it gets.

The upside is he'll have unlimited access to fucked up people in need of self help.
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I allways thought he was a scumbag.

My Intuition in this particular case = Right

Peace.
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