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The Phantom Approach
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Paris Boum Boum

Paris Boum Boum

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Yesterday, I used the Phantom Approach on a girl, and ended up fucking her. 

What is the Phantom Approach ? 

It's this: you walk up to the girl, say nothing at all, stay confident in yourself and in your physicality, and let her do all the talking. After 30min-1h of her investing on you like this, you can't not fuck her. 

What is it not ? 

It's not the "stare and plant" opener badly done where you walk up to a girl, look at her in the eyes and try to make her fuck you by looking into her eyes. 

View it like this: you're so high value that you don't even spit a word to game her. You just take what's yours, in the limits of what's socially acceptable (ie you're socially aware of what's around you, of the fact she has friends, etc) (you can also finger her in the taxi later).

The key is to stay supremely confident and comfortable. What helped me was the few hours I spent approaching earlier. 

So you're a challenge, and she'll try to make you speak. 
Don't say shit. Say nothing. Smile. Maybe make gestures. But don't say anything. 

Primal behavior at its finest. Escalate on her ass hard, she'll get it. She'll understand "ok he's only here to fuck me hard, and he's smart enough to make it fun". 

Other people will try to speak to you. Ignore. 
Other guys will try to steal your girl. They'll speak to you - don't say shit, just smile, let them speak too much. Then you pick up your girl and carry her elsewhere. 
Her friends will try to speak to you. Ignore. You'll be so boring they won't do anything against you. 

After some time (it was 1 hour for me this time) you can say something. Never say anything longer than one word. You can say your name. 

Then play with it. Sometimes answer to a question of hers in a very boring / mundane way, she'll think it's awesome just because you're saying. 

Then finger her in the taxi. 
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Hotdog

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Good idea I love it, I often have interactions where I say minimal stuff, but 30 minutes not talking I think is stretching it a bit. Ill try it tho :)
What about when she starts the innevitable barrage of questions?
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Paris Boum Boum

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What I did was really not say anything apart from making out with her and trying to finger her for the first 30min / 1h. Asking questions was investment. I just looked at her deep in the eyes, smile and make out or something like that. 

Maybe I was lucky, maybe I was super hot, anyway it worked like that, I don't if it would work that way with a girl less into me right from the start. 


Hotdog wrote:
Good idea I love it, I often have interactions where I say minimal stuff, but 30 minutes not talking I think is stretching it a bit. Ill try it tho :)
What about when she starts the innevitable barrage of questions?
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alienantfarm

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lol what the fuck?

I would imagine there is a lot of silence because we all know girls having little to say.

FINGER DEM IN THE TAXAY!
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Paris Boum Boum

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Good times lol
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SocialLab

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Have you tried it since?

I've done it where I don't speak for 1-2 minutes, and once they invest, I allow myself to invest a little bit. 
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ifyouwill

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Paris Boum Boum Wrote:


It's this: you walk up to the girl, say nothing at all, stay confident in yourself and in your physicality, and let her do all the talking. After 30min-1h of her investing on you like this, you can't not fuck her. 

What is it not ?  It's not the "stare and plant" opener badly done where you walk up to a girl, look at her in the eyes and try to make her fuck you by looking into her eyes. 


I'm a bit confused.
So I walk up to her but don't say anything at all and let her talk? (Like, she'll probably say ''Who are you/can I help you?'' kind of thing)
I don't reply and just look at her?
Carry on like this for an ''30 mins - 1hour''?
But you also say NOT to 'stare and plant'/look her in the eyes and try to make her fuck you like that.
So where do I look and what do I do?? I'm confused.
And this is for daygame? Bars? Anywhere?
And she won't think there's something wrong with me like i'm a mute or something?


I think I need you to start again and explain it to me like i'm 5, because your post isn't at all clear to me
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Paris Boum Boum

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ifyouwill Wrote:
Paris Boum Boum Wrote:


It's this: you walk up to the girl, say nothing at all, stay confident in yourself and in your physicality, and let her do all the talking. After 30min-1h of her investing on you like this, you can't not fuck her. 

What is it not ?  It's not the "stare and plant" opener badly done where you walk up to a girl, look at her in the eyes and try to make her fuck you by looking into her eyes. 


I'm a bit confused.
So I walk up to her but don't say anything at all and let her talk? (Like, she'll probably say ''Who are you/can I help you?'' kind of thing)
I don't reply and just look at her?
Carry on like this for an ''30 mins - 1hour''?
But you also say NOT to 'stare and plant'/look her in the eyes and try to make her fuck you like that.
So where do I look and what do I do?? I'm confused.
And this is for daygame? Bars? Anywhere?
And she won't think there's something wrong with me like i'm a mute or something?


I think I need you to start again and explain it to me like i'm 5, because your post isn't at all clear to me


Ha ha ok the OP is the kind of post that relates something that WORKED and is FUNNY, but it shouldn't be considered as the best / last / newest method for picking up chicks consistently. This pick up was just extreme self-amusement.

This is NOT something to do if you're hoping to get laid. You're better off having normal conversations and approaching normally. Again at the time I had huge momentum, I had a good wing, I was challenging myself and coming up with fun stuff to do.
This was done at night in a very small club.

Most probably, the chick won't have a conversation with you of course. But she's more and more intrigued, and more and more invested, as she asks you questions and you never answer.

Basically if i remember correctly I just spent time with her, "stayed near", danced with her, interacted with her through facial expression and body language, was super physical. It was not me facing her and looking in her eyes for 30 min.
It was a normal interaction with physicality, but no words.

But it was done in such a fun way for me and for her that it was conveying to the girl "look I'm so higher value you don't deserve even a word from me" -- like an arrogant prick.

Maybe what helped was that I wasn't alone and was with my cool wing at that time, it made him laugh, and once or twice she would ask him questions about me ("what's his name ?? why isn't he talking ??"). So I couldn't be seen as the super creepy guy.

In a nutshell, it's just something fun, NOT A METHOD, a form of extreme self amusement, where you challenge yourself to pull the girl without saying shit, and try to have fun in the process.

Hope it's clearer now :)

Cheers

 
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Paris Boum Boum

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SocialLab Wrote:
Have you tried it since?

I've done it where I don't speak for 1-2 minutes, and once they invest, I allow myself to invest a little bit. 


Not really, these days I care too much, gotta get momentum rolling again I guess :)
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alee629

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I need to try this!
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