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May 21st, 2013
do i gotta be perfect for my girlfriend not to cheat on me ?
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jarnow

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Join Date: 01/07/2012 | Posts: 80

ok guys so, my question.
do i have to be perfect rsd guy to keep my girlfriend and keep her faithfull ?

i've read and seen so much rsd that i begin to think not a single girl is faithfull and they will all cheat or whatever if she meets a guy like stifler, julien, tyler whatever.
if i'm not the perfect pickup guy with all this confidence and abundance, can i still have a girlfriend and not be worried out of my mind lol ?

i was a bit of a player in the past and i had the abundance and the not giving a fuck confidence, then i met this girl..
after a half year or so of knowing her i finally decided we really connected and i really wanted to be only with her so i made her my girlfriend.
then the confidence etc got a little lost (also cuz personal problems etc) so now i'm not really that guy anymore and i even get jealous and insecure..
and so is she, she feels and thinks exactly the same things as me and is as worried for me to cheat as i am sometimes for her to cheat.

seems like we both are too dependend on eachother and i'm aware of that and working on it nd so does she

she says she doesn't care 'bout my problems or insecurity or whatever cuz when i'm with her i am still a very cool and fun guy. i joke around, i connect with her very deep (not in a chode way), we have good sex, etc etc.. she knows and i know i'm not a chode.. tho i sometimes feel that way cuz of my insecurity sometimes !

i know alot of guys get this idea of girls all being sluts and cheating etc.. and i know there is alot of debate about it and different oppinions but i just wanted to get this question out there..
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This is a bit of a generalisation but I find age really matters, if she is under 25 and hot,  good luck. After that, girls have done a lot of fucking around and begin to value relationships more than one night stands...
BUT the irony is you should only be in a relationship with a girl when u dont NEED to be, when you have both done a fair amount of fucking about and u both know what kind of person makes u happy. Nothing is really forever but dont let any of the hype worry you, If you are in a good relationship, great sex, love, adventure, passion and she loves your company she wont want to cheat...If she does you are probably not giving her one of the above, it has very little to do with the 'skills' of any random dude and more to do with your strengths or failures.
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Hotdog wrote:
This is a bit of a generalisation but I find age really matters, if she is under 25 and hot,  good luck. After that, girls have done a lot of fucking around and begin to value relationships more than one night stands...
BUT the irony is you should only be in a relationship with a girl when u dont NEED to be, when you have both done a fair amount of fucking about and u both know what kind of person makes u happy. Nothing is really forever but dont let any of the hype worry you, If you are in a good relationship, great sex, love, adventure, passion and she loves your company she wont want to cheat...If she does you are probably not giving her one of the above, it has very little to do with the 'skills' of any random dude and more to do with your strengths or failures.
thanks very much, a comforting answer !
i know i have many strengths and girls often view me as special cuz i'm pretty different then other regular guys.
indeed i've got much problems which make the relationship(s) hard at times and i'm mostly worried about being too jealous and insecure at timeess, cuz i know girls hate this and i feel such a chode when i feel those feelings lol !

thanks for the reaction anyways, very helpfull from an objective point of view !
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also i'm at times confused as what girls want out of a relationship and a boyfriend
i've read all these things about how to pickup girls etc but when your in a relationship things do get a bit different..

she says she doesn't mind when i'm insecure a lil at times cuz it makes her feel special and it shows that i care about her and so do i.
but on the other hand we both don't want the drama of the jealousy and insecurity..

so right now we're trying to find a balance between independence and still caring about eachother without the jealousy etc..

not dependend, not independent but INTERdependent.. but yeah, working on it.. i think that's key tho !!
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Your fucked, the bottom line is chodes get cheated on constantly, all the time, it's endless.

Most of society doesn't realise this because girls don't blab their mouths about every guy they fuck especially if they are in a relationship and they cheated with some scumbag, but the reality is it happens all the time and unless your a badass motherfucker with a strong reality your kinda fucked, even the ugly ones fuck like crazy, probably even more than the hot ones.
jarnow wrote:
ok guys so, my question.
do i have to be perfect rsd guy to keep my girlfriend and keep her faithfull ?

i've read and seen so much rsd that i begin to think not a single girl is faithfull and they will all cheat or whatever if she meets a guy like stifler, julien, tyler whatever.
if i'm not the perfect pickup guy with all this confidence and abundance, can i still have a girlfriend and not be worried out of my mind lol ?


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Yeah, that's kind of a downside to learning game, it can be hard to trust girls.

The problem is with your RAS. Regular people see the world a certain way- women are good and never cheat, and their RAS reinforces this (ignores instances where it does happen, sees it as a rare event, etc). A player, however, regularly goes out and hooks up with women, some with of them with boyfriends or husbands. This can fuck up your view on women, as you're regulary coming (pun always intended) in contact with a disproportionate % of the kind of women who cheat. That's why you'll get guys coming on here saying "all women cheat, blah blah blah", because that's what their RAS picks up on. But you have to remember this is as skewed a world view as the chode who believes all women are pristine angelic beings.

I'm sure Julien will be the first to tell you, he doesn't have sex with every woman he approaches. Let's take the Jeffy stat, where he says 1/3 rd of women reject him outright, 1/3 of women will talk with him, but won't hook up, and 1/3rd are down for the penis. You think maybe some of those 2/3rds who don't hook up might be in relationships? And if they aren't cheating with a guy of his ruthless skill level, they probably aren't cheating often or ever. And this doesn't even factor in the girls WHO DON'T EVEN GO TO CLUBS (remember, girls in a club are a skewed sample to begin with, more likely to be looking to hook up).

Long story short- some girls cheat. Some don't. What's the true %, I don't think anyone really knows, without some wide-reaching, complex study. Thing is, EVERY ONE is going to have a biased view on this, depending on thier lifestyle (unless they hang out with solid-relationship, church-going folk during the day and beast at night, or something absurd like that). The fact of the matter is, if you're the best man you can be, you're probably going to be okay. And if you are and it does happen, it's probably more her issue than yours. Gotta keep perspective, control what you can and let he chips fall where they may.
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WireySpindell wrote:
Yeah, that's kind of a downside to learning game, it can be hard to trust girls.

The problem is with your RAS. Regular people see the world a certain way- women are good and never cheat, and their RAS reinforces this (ignores instances where it does happen, sees it as a rare event, etc). A player, however, regularly goes out and hooks up with women, some with of them with boyfriends or husbands. This can fuck up your view on women, as you're regulary coming (pun always intended) in contact with a disproportionate % of the kind of women who cheat. That's why you'll get guys coming on here saying "all women cheat, blah blah blah", because that's what their RAS picks up on. But you have to remember this is as skewed a world view as the chode who believes all women are pristine angelic beings.

I'm sure Julien will be the first to tell you, he doesn't have sex with every woman he approaches. Let's take the Jeffy stat, where he says 1/3 rd of women reject him outright, 1/3 of women will talk with him, but won't hook up, and 1/3rd are down for the penis. You think maybe some of those 2/3rds who don't hook up might be in relationships? And if they aren't cheating with a guy of his ruthless skill level, they probably aren't cheating often or ever. And this doesn't even factor in the girls WHO DON'T EVEN GO TO CLUBS (remember, girls in a club are a skewed sample to begin with, more likely to be looking to hook up).

Long story short- some girls cheat. Some don't. What's the true %, I don't think anyone really knows, without some wide-reaching, complex study. Thing is, EVERY ONE is going to have a biased view on this, depending on thier lifestyle (unless they hang out with solid-relationship, church-going folk during the day and beast at night, or something absurd like that). The fact of the matter is, if you're the best man you can be, you're probably going to be okay. And if you are and it does happen, it's probably more her issue than yours. Gotta keep perspective, control what you can and let he chips fall where they may.
thanks for the reaction, this is very true.
tho it's hard to trust someone 100% and not be worried about her cheating if you can never really know if she's gonna cheat or not.

and yes i really got this perspective like "all girls are sluts", cuz back in the days i didn't give a fuck if girls had boyfriends cuz i know i was the coolest motherfucker they ever meet lol.
now i'm still that guy inside but insecurity is taking over at times and then Í feel like the boyfriend who's not as cool cuz he's insecure and worried about other guys.
but whatever, i've got enough information and insight of my own and you guys to sort this out.. thanks alot ! :)
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Sooner or later every girl will get bored and move on.  There's nothing you can do about it, no matter how Alpha you are.

Just enjoy it while you can.
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In my opinion, absolutely every girl has it in her to cheat and I think under the right circumstances every girl will indeed cheat.

By the right circumstances I mean that they can fuck a guy who is higher value than their boyfriend and not get found out (even by their friends, I think its a total myth that girls are honest with their friends about who they fuck).

Girls who go to bars/clubs are ultimately all there to hook up (under the correct set of circumstances - which may be highly unlikely in some cases), if they weren't they'd just stay at home. The youngest and most attractive girls are most likely to cheat, cause the best guys are more likely to go for them, I really don't think it has all that much to do with maturity or anything like that.

Its not rocket science. Your girl may have already cheated on you and if not, probably will in the future. Learn to live with it.

Or if you want my real advice, just cheat on her as much as you can and you'll care less when she cheats on you.
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Guys like Julien? Really?
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jarnow

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@undisclosed, pimpymcpimper, this sounds like really dumb talk..

how are you ever gonna be in a healthy relationship if you know so sure your girl is going to cheat on you and by expecting this you already cheat on her as much as you can.. wtf ?!
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