THE FORUMS
dcampo3 - Yeah I try to make the "bad" section more about constructive critism, so if I point out something i did wrong i try to include how to fix it or a positive spin to keep myself in the right head space. Thanks for the support! I have been reading your day game challange for a bit now. I wish i could do more day game, what do you think the main differences are between day game and night game?
Day 11
One thing I perform with alot more frequency lately is random chit chat. Any time I see a woman in the service industry I end up having a conversation with her. I was out with my parents almost all day, there were tons of women around which would have been nice to approach. They know about my challenge while they were here, and kept saying things like “oh maybe you should be the one that talked to her” or they would try to give me tips. It was substantially annoying.
I had talked to random women all day.
I started out the night with a high amount of energy and desire to meet women. At the same time, I have work at 6am the next day. I also have a major project due, so I cannot stay out too late.
I go to the first venue and chode out a bit, there are some sets I could approach but rationalize way too much. “Oh I bet she is alone because her bf is getting her a drink” “that group is too large” “I don’t want to approach with a male in it” “they are too fat” <--(decent reason not to approach actually)
I get to the second and I am about to leave when I see two girls in the corner. I approach and as I get a closer look I realize one is very cute, and the other is quite old. Fairly warm reception. I add a false time constraint and chat them up. I find out it’s a mother and daughter combo from a few cities over, here for the game. The logistics are terrible. I bounce.
I get to the third venue and see one set that has any potential. At this point I am in “throw myself into any set” mode. I approach these two girls and one of them instantly has an attitude, the other doesn’t. I do another false time constraint. Partly because I am tired as hell. Luckly some dude comes along and asks for a picture, he takes the bitch and leaves the receptive one. I go for a deeper connection, talk about the child in her and how adults lose their whimsy. She is giving some IOIs but then her friend comes back and she is still a bitch. I ask if the cute girl lives around here, she says yes, and I shake her hand and told her that maybe I would see her around. I ignore the other girl and leave.
I wander around for far too long at this point trying to find a set.
Finally, I see girls, I am about to say something when they happen to stumble upon a small wad of cash on the ground. I use this to open. They walk past me with a quick reply. I say “wait, the party is this way!” no response.
The Good:
Learning how to build better emotional connections.
Starting to feel less pressure in approaching sets, I see, I approach. Its like I am throwing myself in there.
The Bad:
Approaching felt a bit like a chore when there isn’t much around.
False time constraints are a blessing and a curse. They lower bitch shields, but it just postpones the departure by a few minutes. Perhaps I should just use and ignore.
The Ugly:
I got AMOGed by a wad of cash. If only I had shown up seconds earlier, it could have been mine!
Day 11
One thing I perform with alot more frequency lately is random chit chat. Any time I see a woman in the service industry I end up having a conversation with her. I was out with my parents almost all day, there were tons of women around which would have been nice to approach. They know about my challenge while they were here, and kept saying things like “oh maybe you should be the one that talked to her” or they would try to give me tips. It was substantially annoying.
I had talked to random women all day.
I started out the night with a high amount of energy and desire to meet women. At the same time, I have work at 6am the next day. I also have a major project due, so I cannot stay out too late.
I go to the first venue and chode out a bit, there are some sets I could approach but rationalize way too much. “Oh I bet she is alone because her bf is getting her a drink” “that group is too large” “I don’t want to approach with a male in it” “they are too fat” <--(decent reason not to approach actually)
I get to the second and I am about to leave when I see two girls in the corner. I approach and as I get a closer look I realize one is very cute, and the other is quite old. Fairly warm reception. I add a false time constraint and chat them up. I find out it’s a mother and daughter combo from a few cities over, here for the game. The logistics are terrible. I bounce.
I get to the third venue and see one set that has any potential. At this point I am in “throw myself into any set” mode. I approach these two girls and one of them instantly has an attitude, the other doesn’t. I do another false time constraint. Partly because I am tired as hell. Luckly some dude comes along and asks for a picture, he takes the bitch and leaves the receptive one. I go for a deeper connection, talk about the child in her and how adults lose their whimsy. She is giving some IOIs but then her friend comes back and she is still a bitch. I ask if the cute girl lives around here, she says yes, and I shake her hand and told her that maybe I would see her around. I ignore the other girl and leave.
I wander around for far too long at this point trying to find a set.
Finally, I see girls, I am about to say something when they happen to stumble upon a small wad of cash on the ground. I use this to open. They walk past me with a quick reply. I say “wait, the party is this way!” no response.
The Good:
Learning how to build better emotional connections.
Starting to feel less pressure in approaching sets, I see, I approach. Its like I am throwing myself in there.
The Bad:
Approaching felt a bit like a chore when there isn’t much around.
False time constraints are a blessing and a curse. They lower bitch shields, but it just postpones the departure by a few minutes. Perhaps I should just use and ignore.
The Ugly:
I got AMOGed by a wad of cash. If only I had shown up seconds earlier, it could have been mine!
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Dude you are doing great bro
fuck amogs .. what you have to do for both guys and girls being assholes or bitches is just to have the mentality of making yourself get respected.
Bitch tells you to fuck off call her out on that. A guy tries to be loud.. be louder than him!... So far nothing bad has happened to me doing this lol
Answering your question:
in daygame ive had different stages:
First.. i started doing really good... i dont know how.. i got number closes all the time very fast. However.. i would be taking at least one hour to make just one approach.. I was a 'perfectionist'
Then when i went to peru.. i started sucking balls lol... and i started going really cool and friendly.. but kept sucking
Right now im starting to act more and more like i used to act in nightgame. Its like in some way... my calibration is turning me into the guy i was when i would night game. I will keep posting about this and ill see what the hell happen. Ill copy this post into my field report for further analysis in the next weeks lol
fuck amogs .. what you have to do for both guys and girls being assholes or bitches is just to have the mentality of making yourself get respected.
Bitch tells you to fuck off call her out on that. A guy tries to be loud.. be louder than him!... So far nothing bad has happened to me doing this lol
Answering your question:
in daygame ive had different stages:
First.. i started doing really good... i dont know how.. i got number closes all the time very fast. However.. i would be taking at least one hour to make just one approach.. I was a 'perfectionist'
Then when i went to peru.. i started sucking balls lol... and i started going really cool and friendly.. but kept sucking
Right now im starting to act more and more like i used to act in nightgame. Its like in some way... my calibration is turning me into the guy i was when i would night game. I will keep posting about this and ill see what the hell happen. Ill copy this post into my field report for further analysis in the next weeks lol
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Day 12
I am alarmed to feel a little nervous at the start of the night. After a little reflection, I realize why. On Mondays people collect at a dance club that has free admission. I know for my journey I have to go there, despite how foreign the environment feels.
My first set is fairly easy. I met these girls on Day 7 (post #23). I see them walking and there is a moment where I sense if I don’t say anything we will just ignore each other. Naturally this will not stand! I open simply. They are going back to their place. I remember 2/3 names and charm the person I forgot. I keep telling them the party is the other way. They have to get up in the morning, I say I have to get up at 6am and that the party just started! (its now 10 am). Eventually I let them go. If I bump into them again I should try and get their phone numbers.
My second set is fairly bold. There is a group of girls, they look a bit like the rowdy/butchy type. I see one girl that is sort of pushed outside of the main group. I approach and say “if we act like we are having a lot of fun your friends will get jealous”. She gives me some bullshit about her boyfriend. I plow through with more witty banter. We talk about where they are from “artsy industrial” part of town. Whatever that means. Vegans eating meat. I am actually getting her to laugh and she isn’t constantly bringing up her BF. Then finally one of the girls from the groups notices us and completely diverts her attention to us. I whisper to her, I told you so! The friend gives me eye daggers. I bounce.
The third set went strangely. I see two decent looking girls and I directly open them. They instantly tell me they are interested in each other. I say “oh do you not talk to people outside your dynamic?” and she says oh we do. I reassure them I am a friendly guy. Random banter for a bit with a little rapport. One of them is giving me strong eye contact (IOI?). That ends.
I head to the dance club. There aren’t many people there, and I recognize one girl from school (who is with a large group). This adds to the awkward. I become a fly on the wall for probably a good 10-15. I have no idea what to do. I feel as if I have been learning how to hammer and now I am required to saw. In a bar I would just approach, here everything feels different. There aren’t many people; everyone is friggin hot as hell. People seem to know each other. I watch the 6ish people on the dance floor, some of the girls are blow my mind hot and dressed to kill.
This is probably my 5th time to dance club. Next week I will set a time limit and stay there the whole time.
The Good:
I went to the dance club.
The Bad:
I have no idea how to operate in the dance club. I feel like it is entirely a new realm. I must figure this out.
The Ugly:
The fact that 10-15 minutes of inaction at a dance club is some sort of victory
Random Crazy Story: 1 am fire alarm goes off. I see my neighbor sitting on the floor across from her apartment. She doesn’t speak good English. I ask her several times what she is doing, I cannot understand her. Finally I figure out that she lost her keys. So I tell her that we have to leave the building. She says no. She then tells me stuff I cannot understand again. Finally I figure out that she believes she left the oven on and SHE caused the alarm to go off. I tell her we have to leave so we can tell the fire department. This conversation took like 3 minutes to get two facts.
She globs onto me like glue. She keeps asking if she will be arrested for this. Everyone in my apartment is watching as we are taken aside as I tell the fire department what she told me. They believe the cause of the alarm came elsewhere. She keeps repeating, over.. and over… and over. “ I lost my keys!”. The fire Marshall keeps saying “yes I know”. They do not have a master key for her room.
So she ends up staying at my place.
She is younger, cute voice, a face of a 2 - 3 with a body of 6-7. Very skinny with nice breasts. She takes off her jacket, she is wearing a skin tight spaghetti tank top without a bra. I feel myself starting to get aroused in her presence because her tits are so amazing. I wonder how I could get laid out of this, but ultimately decide not to push it as she has had a rough night. After a little chit chat, she ops to “go to sleep” almost immediately (on my couch), obviously keying into the possibilities.
I lay in bed hoping a porn fantasy will come to life. It doesn’t.
In the morning I realize how ugly she is.
I am alarmed to feel a little nervous at the start of the night. After a little reflection, I realize why. On Mondays people collect at a dance club that has free admission. I know for my journey I have to go there, despite how foreign the environment feels.
My first set is fairly easy. I met these girls on Day 7 (post #23). I see them walking and there is a moment where I sense if I don’t say anything we will just ignore each other. Naturally this will not stand! I open simply. They are going back to their place. I remember 2/3 names and charm the person I forgot. I keep telling them the party is the other way. They have to get up in the morning, I say I have to get up at 6am and that the party just started! (its now 10 am). Eventually I let them go. If I bump into them again I should try and get their phone numbers.
My second set is fairly bold. There is a group of girls, they look a bit like the rowdy/butchy type. I see one girl that is sort of pushed outside of the main group. I approach and say “if we act like we are having a lot of fun your friends will get jealous”. She gives me some bullshit about her boyfriend. I plow through with more witty banter. We talk about where they are from “artsy industrial” part of town. Whatever that means. Vegans eating meat. I am actually getting her to laugh and she isn’t constantly bringing up her BF. Then finally one of the girls from the groups notices us and completely diverts her attention to us. I whisper to her, I told you so! The friend gives me eye daggers. I bounce.
The third set went strangely. I see two decent looking girls and I directly open them. They instantly tell me they are interested in each other. I say “oh do you not talk to people outside your dynamic?” and she says oh we do. I reassure them I am a friendly guy. Random banter for a bit with a little rapport. One of them is giving me strong eye contact (IOI?). That ends.
I head to the dance club. There aren’t many people there, and I recognize one girl from school (who is with a large group). This adds to the awkward. I become a fly on the wall for probably a good 10-15. I have no idea what to do. I feel as if I have been learning how to hammer and now I am required to saw. In a bar I would just approach, here everything feels different. There aren’t many people; everyone is friggin hot as hell. People seem to know each other. I watch the 6ish people on the dance floor, some of the girls are blow my mind hot and dressed to kill.
This is probably my 5th time to dance club. Next week I will set a time limit and stay there the whole time.
The Good:
I went to the dance club.
The Bad:
I have no idea how to operate in the dance club. I feel like it is entirely a new realm. I must figure this out.
The Ugly:
The fact that 10-15 minutes of inaction at a dance club is some sort of victory
Random Crazy Story: 1 am fire alarm goes off. I see my neighbor sitting on the floor across from her apartment. She doesn’t speak good English. I ask her several times what she is doing, I cannot understand her. Finally I figure out that she lost her keys. So I tell her that we have to leave the building. She says no. She then tells me stuff I cannot understand again. Finally I figure out that she believes she left the oven on and SHE caused the alarm to go off. I tell her we have to leave so we can tell the fire department. This conversation took like 3 minutes to get two facts.
She globs onto me like glue. She keeps asking if she will be arrested for this. Everyone in my apartment is watching as we are taken aside as I tell the fire department what she told me. They believe the cause of the alarm came elsewhere. She keeps repeating, over.. and over… and over. “ I lost my keys!”. The fire Marshall keeps saying “yes I know”. They do not have a master key for her room.
So she ends up staying at my place.
She is younger, cute voice, a face of a 2 - 3 with a body of 6-7. Very skinny with nice breasts. She takes off her jacket, she is wearing a skin tight spaghetti tank top without a bra. I feel myself starting to get aroused in her presence because her tits are so amazing. I wonder how I could get laid out of this, but ultimately decide not to push it as she has had a rough night. After a little chit chat, she ops to “go to sleep” almost immediately (on my couch), obviously keying into the possibilities.
I lay in bed hoping a porn fantasy will come to life. It doesn’t.
In the morning I realize how ugly she is.
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In the morning I realize how ugly she is.
haha awesome ending. __________________
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GPS in Peru: www.nvzglobal.com
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GPS in Peru: www.nvzglobal.com
Day 13
I have some other random ungame related shit going on in my life right now so I was feeling very down as it was time to go out. I am super tired because of the fire alarm crap last night. I come up with all sorts of excuses not to go out. I come up with all sorts of rationalizations of how to skip this challenge (for instance, my rules stipulate that if i bring a girl hope i may skip a day, the night before i let a damsel in distress use my couch).
I somehow push through this and get out of the house.
I start off feeling nervous again. Its weird feeling nervous at this point.
The first venue I identify a few potential sets but rationalize reasons why not to approach. I go to the next venue.
The next venue is full of potential groups and sets. I feel paralyzed. I am getting into my head, i feel like i am reverting to a previous point in time. I am nervous to approach. I bounce.
Next venue I see two girls with open and inviting body language. THANK GOD! I approach. Instantly i fall right into where I am. There are jokes, I am being wity and charming. Things are going great. They are laughing and its super fun. I ask if they want to hear a funny story. I tell them about my fire alarm pull. There are no funny parts in the story. They look bored, well one of them. I bounce.
I go to a dance club. The moment I walk in I go up to a girl and say "What do you think?" she says "gin and tonic" I instantly convert this to humor and we laugh. We make up names for each other and have a fun time. I try to get her to dance with a weak claw. I bump into her again. She says she is on her way to the local lesbian bar. I skip a beat. LESBIAN!
I go across the room. I travel through the dancing like a God. I walk super chill as if there isn't a group of people dancing all around me.
I see a girl from behind, i open. Wow she isn't that attractive, but I am there. I start talking and her friend is like giggling. I use this to talk to my target. I then introduce myself to the giggling woman. And some random male. They are kinda boring and not real interested. They kinda look like lesbians.
I see a beautiful girl dancing and she gave me eye contact earlier. I walk up to her, she hesitates, i touch her arm and move up to her ear. She is receptive. I say "you are cute". She says thank you.
What I should have done: I continue working the room, approaching other people. I come back to this girl and dance with her.
What i Should have done: I tell her to introduce me to her friend. We dance.
What I did: Then I went home.
The Good:
I overcame some seriously negative emotions. So glad I went out.
I realized that my natural game is like switch. I get in set and without thinking I just know what to do and say to get a decent reaction. How far things have come.
The Bad:
Need to focus on number closing.
Need to push through once sets fall apart, this would be easier if i had more time.
The Ugly:
Fairly sure the dance club was full of lesbians. No joke.
I have some other random ungame related shit going on in my life right now so I was feeling very down as it was time to go out. I am super tired because of the fire alarm crap last night. I come up with all sorts of excuses not to go out. I come up with all sorts of rationalizations of how to skip this challenge (for instance, my rules stipulate that if i bring a girl hope i may skip a day, the night before i let a damsel in distress use my couch).
I somehow push through this and get out of the house.
I start off feeling nervous again. Its weird feeling nervous at this point.
The first venue I identify a few potential sets but rationalize reasons why not to approach. I go to the next venue.
The next venue is full of potential groups and sets. I feel paralyzed. I am getting into my head, i feel like i am reverting to a previous point in time. I am nervous to approach. I bounce.
Next venue I see two girls with open and inviting body language. THANK GOD! I approach. Instantly i fall right into where I am. There are jokes, I am being wity and charming. Things are going great. They are laughing and its super fun. I ask if they want to hear a funny story. I tell them about my fire alarm pull. There are no funny parts in the story. They look bored, well one of them. I bounce.
I go to a dance club. The moment I walk in I go up to a girl and say "What do you think?" she says "gin and tonic" I instantly convert this to humor and we laugh. We make up names for each other and have a fun time. I try to get her to dance with a weak claw. I bump into her again. She says she is on her way to the local lesbian bar. I skip a beat. LESBIAN!
I go across the room. I travel through the dancing like a God. I walk super chill as if there isn't a group of people dancing all around me.
I see a girl from behind, i open. Wow she isn't that attractive, but I am there. I start talking and her friend is like giggling. I use this to talk to my target. I then introduce myself to the giggling woman. And some random male. They are kinda boring and not real interested. They kinda look like lesbians.
I see a beautiful girl dancing and she gave me eye contact earlier. I walk up to her, she hesitates, i touch her arm and move up to her ear. She is receptive. I say "you are cute". She says thank you.
What I should have done: I continue working the room, approaching other people. I come back to this girl and dance with her.
What i Should have done: I tell her to introduce me to her friend. We dance.
What I did: Then I went home.
The Good:
I overcame some seriously negative emotions. So glad I went out.
I realized that my natural game is like switch. I get in set and without thinking I just know what to do and say to get a decent reaction. How far things have come.
The Bad:
Need to focus on number closing.
Need to push through once sets fall apart, this would be easier if i had more time.
The Ugly:
Fairly sure the dance club was full of lesbians. No joke.
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Day 14
Felt a little nervous going out again. I find this really strange because I have been going out for so many days straight completing the challenge.
Earlier in the day I “approached” a girl in the elevator and made random chit chat. It didn’t last long but she was very social. I just opened with “hows it going?” her face lit up and she said “very good, you?”. Followed by random chit chat. Not really that amazing but it was cool.
I went to the first venue and saw one of the girls from the day before (open body language girls). The cutie was isolated for the moment at the bar and I went over to talk to her. I felt like I was extra gamie and charming but we actually spoke for a while. There were some subtle undertones of compliance. For instance, I asked for her to give me her hand “give me your hand” and she did. At which point I did the finger routine. We chatted for a bit at the bar. I found myself being unnaturally neggy. I didn’t even mean to, but she is a cute girl in a prestigious profession. Its like I can’t even help it with my humor. She was there with a group. She tried to neg me back subtly but i barely even noticed. She got her beers and she looked like she wanted to walk away. I told her she could go. Then she left. I strutted out, as I sense I may bump into her again tomorrow.
I get to the next venue, no good sets but a fatty and an ugly with a dog. Unfortunately I will be back.
Next venue. I can’t seem to locate a set. I see a group with two girls and a guy. The guy and the girl keep looking at me and whispering. I almost approach, but it seems really weird and the guy is older and strange looking. I then decide to just chill for a moment and see if anything changes. I then realize that the ratio here is probably 3:1 against my favor. I bounce.
At this point I need to just complete the challenge. I see a woman unlocking her bike. I approach and say “It will be hard to ride your bike in those shoes.” She quickly unlocks her bike and begins to head away, I sense I may have startled her or creeped her out. She says “ its okay, I am Danish” Which I have no idea why that makes a difference.
I go into the bar with the fatty and ugly. I desperately try to find a decent set. I rationalize away the larger groups. (Still rationalizing groups with males, have yet to have a good experience with the ones I have opened).
I sit in the back and open the fatty and ugly by commenting the dog. We chat for a long time, one of the smoothest indirect opens I have ever done, I didn’t introduce myself for quite some time. No negging, just regular surface level interactions. The ugly girl claims to have recognized me, she is a bartender next door who I approached once for chit chat, but I don’t bring this to her attention.
I keep checking out the fatty, who is the most engaging. I am trying to find any redeeming quality as she seems like an easy pull. She kinda has a cute face, but her tits are small compared to the rest of her fat. I just can’t do it. Fat girls are okay as long as their tits are bigger than the rest of their fat or at least has some womenly curves. Not the case here.
I excuse myself with some pleasantries. The fat one genuinely seems disappointed.
The Good:
Like most days of this challenge, just getting me to go out is a small victory.
Met a girl I had approached before. If I can get my act together if I meet her again, I could have a chance.
I think I did some decent push pull with the hottie. Gave some compliments, playful negs, created compliance.
The Bad:
The interaction with the fatty went better than the hotty. I wasn’t really trying to do anything in either, although with the hotty I naturally was more Gamie, and the fatty way more chill and ambivalent. I will have to keep this in mind moving forward.
My game seemed to be a bit obvious in my opinion with the Hotty.
The Ugly:
“You are going to have a hard time riding that bike with those shoes”
Felt a little nervous going out again. I find this really strange because I have been going out for so many days straight completing the challenge.
Earlier in the day I “approached” a girl in the elevator and made random chit chat. It didn’t last long but she was very social. I just opened with “hows it going?” her face lit up and she said “very good, you?”. Followed by random chit chat. Not really that amazing but it was cool.
I went to the first venue and saw one of the girls from the day before (open body language girls). The cutie was isolated for the moment at the bar and I went over to talk to her. I felt like I was extra gamie and charming but we actually spoke for a while. There were some subtle undertones of compliance. For instance, I asked for her to give me her hand “give me your hand” and she did. At which point I did the finger routine. We chatted for a bit at the bar. I found myself being unnaturally neggy. I didn’t even mean to, but she is a cute girl in a prestigious profession. Its like I can’t even help it with my humor. She was there with a group. She tried to neg me back subtly but i barely even noticed. She got her beers and she looked like she wanted to walk away. I told her she could go. Then she left. I strutted out, as I sense I may bump into her again tomorrow.
I get to the next venue, no good sets but a fatty and an ugly with a dog. Unfortunately I will be back.
Next venue. I can’t seem to locate a set. I see a group with two girls and a guy. The guy and the girl keep looking at me and whispering. I almost approach, but it seems really weird and the guy is older and strange looking. I then decide to just chill for a moment and see if anything changes. I then realize that the ratio here is probably 3:1 against my favor. I bounce.
At this point I need to just complete the challenge. I see a woman unlocking her bike. I approach and say “It will be hard to ride your bike in those shoes.” She quickly unlocks her bike and begins to head away, I sense I may have startled her or creeped her out. She says “ its okay, I am Danish” Which I have no idea why that makes a difference.
I go into the bar with the fatty and ugly. I desperately try to find a decent set. I rationalize away the larger groups. (Still rationalizing groups with males, have yet to have a good experience with the ones I have opened).
I sit in the back and open the fatty and ugly by commenting the dog. We chat for a long time, one of the smoothest indirect opens I have ever done, I didn’t introduce myself for quite some time. No negging, just regular surface level interactions. The ugly girl claims to have recognized me, she is a bartender next door who I approached once for chit chat, but I don’t bring this to her attention.
I keep checking out the fatty, who is the most engaging. I am trying to find any redeeming quality as she seems like an easy pull. She kinda has a cute face, but her tits are small compared to the rest of her fat. I just can’t do it. Fat girls are okay as long as their tits are bigger than the rest of their fat or at least has some womenly curves. Not the case here.
I excuse myself with some pleasantries. The fat one genuinely seems disappointed.
The Good:
Like most days of this challenge, just getting me to go out is a small victory.
Met a girl I had approached before. If I can get my act together if I meet her again, I could have a chance.
I think I did some decent push pull with the hottie. Gave some compliments, playful negs, created compliance.
The Bad:
The interaction with the fatty went better than the hotty. I wasn’t really trying to do anything in either, although with the hotty I naturally was more Gamie, and the fatty way more chill and ambivalent. I will have to keep this in mind moving forward.
My game seemed to be a bit obvious in my opinion with the Hotty.
The Ugly:
“You are going to have a hard time riding that bike with those shoes”
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My Second 30 Day Challenge FR http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233721/forum?page=7
Day 15
Still going through a bit of a minor rough patch in other aspects of my life. The good news is it will all be behind me very soon. Unfortunately my game seems to be reflective. Three blow outs.
Third venue I arrive at. See two girls talk, finally just decide to do it. The moment I walk up one of the girls is receptive, the other the exact opposite, won't even look at me. Instantly says that she is leaving. I do my usual "but we just met!" and "will i ever see you again?" and juliens "piece of trash". They go away and pay, and i give a playful shrug to the receptive girl. I chill for a bit but i hate lingering. While they are paying the receptive girl keeps looking back at me... hopefully wondering if she ever will see me again.
Go to a dance club. No clue nor confidence for doing dance floor game. I approach a single girl sitting by herself, I only see another purse so presume its her and another girl. I open her and start chatting, she tells me her BF is at the bar. I decide to ignore this and continue chatting. I can't hear a word she is saying. Right as i actually decide to leave, her BF shows up.
I go right into the next set. Three cute girls lokoing bored. I tell them they lookl like they are having the most fun here so i wanted to come meet them. They say some shit i can't hear. I say someshit they can't hear. the table prevents me from actually gaming them. I bounce.
The Good:
Once again pushed through nervousness. It feels like its the first night I have been going out lately, despite it being the 15th.
The Bad:
Little motivation to open enough to get in state.
Several rationalizations.
The Ugly:
My neighbor asked me out yesterday. 2-3 face 6-7 body. The consensus is to not fuck her.
Additional Thoughts:
I may adapt my next challange to a length of time rather than a certain amount of sets. Right now i just want to go out and get them over with rather than sustain an interaction.
Still going through a bit of a minor rough patch in other aspects of my life. The good news is it will all be behind me very soon. Unfortunately my game seems to be reflective. Three blow outs.
Third venue I arrive at. See two girls talk, finally just decide to do it. The moment I walk up one of the girls is receptive, the other the exact opposite, won't even look at me. Instantly says that she is leaving. I do my usual "but we just met!" and "will i ever see you again?" and juliens "piece of trash". They go away and pay, and i give a playful shrug to the receptive girl. I chill for a bit but i hate lingering. While they are paying the receptive girl keeps looking back at me... hopefully wondering if she ever will see me again.
Go to a dance club. No clue nor confidence for doing dance floor game. I approach a single girl sitting by herself, I only see another purse so presume its her and another girl. I open her and start chatting, she tells me her BF is at the bar. I decide to ignore this and continue chatting. I can't hear a word she is saying. Right as i actually decide to leave, her BF shows up.
I go right into the next set. Three cute girls lokoing bored. I tell them they lookl like they are having the most fun here so i wanted to come meet them. They say some shit i can't hear. I say someshit they can't hear. the table prevents me from actually gaming them. I bounce.
The Good:
Once again pushed through nervousness. It feels like its the first night I have been going out lately, despite it being the 15th.
The Bad:
Little motivation to open enough to get in state.
Several rationalizations.
The Ugly:
My neighbor asked me out yesterday. 2-3 face 6-7 body. The consensus is to not fuck her.
Additional Thoughts:
I may adapt my next challange to a length of time rather than a certain amount of sets. Right now i just want to go out and get them over with rather than sustain an interaction.
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My Second 30 Day Challenge FR http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233721/forum?page=7
Day 16
This was a great night, I love Fridays. I met up with some novice wings fairly early on, which helped me be a bit more bold. Although I wish I could self generate this boldness.
First set is Two girls by the bar. I chat with them for a few minutes warming up. I break away and stand by myself to get the vibe.
As I am chilling, I see two cute girls in a booth meant for two. I come up and do a decent job with banter and a little rapport. They are cute, I interpret their tattoos. I am getting a decent vibe. I go in for a number close. She is resistant. I tell her she will never meet another guy like me. She puts in her number, with her name and "from XX". I give her a hug when she leaves.
Three girls in booth. Basically another warm up set. One is very married, the other is way to fat, and the third is a mute.
Wings show up.
There is a huge party going on upstairs so I go and check it out. Indeed, a ton of woman. A bride walks by and i approach. She says she has to go, she is getting married, for fun I say "but i love you!" good times.
I don't end up opening the group, there is a bit to much going on at their table for me to break in, or so i rationalize.
I talk to the waitress who i talked to on a few occasions. Just a little chit chat, i don't try much on her.
I see two girls searching on the ground for a ring. I come and help them, i spot them and recover it for them. Its a wedding ring. Grateful, she points out the girls in her group that aren't married. Sweet. Instant rapport. Then one of the girls turns around. I recognize her but don't remember our previous interaction, it couldn't have been that bad. She knows the waitress. She just goes "NO NO NO! Go away!" and physically pushes me away. Her friends are super confused and a little upset.
By far the harshest blow out of the night. Me and my wings bounce to the next venue.
At the next venue, I open a group of three girls. One of them knows me. I try to remember from which set. I remember now, she was with a hot blond that i SHOULD have went dancing with. The whole table has boyfriends. She reaffirms this. I say love breaks down all barriers. I think she believes I am talking about her, when in reality I am talking about her hot blond friend who isn't there.
I send one of the novice wings in to open a two set of girls in a booth. He does a decent job, i come and run wing on the last. She is very cute. I should have number closed her after she asked me to sit down, a random bunch of girls and guys show up so I let them get to know each other.
I see three girls huddling in a triangle. I walk up and comment on how they are positioned to block everyone out. The hottest pounces on me, the brunet hates me. Brutal group, I power through it. Its difficult to pass their shit tests, some i fail by responding directly and rationalizing. I stay anyway. Finally my wing shows up, i tell the girls that he is much nicer than me. They are turn and address him. I try for the brunet. She looks at her friend and says "i really don't like him". I was giving her cold reads, which i think I was getting spot on. Despite what she was saying, i still though she was interested. Regardless, i bounce.
Bump into some other dude i met at Hot seat, chat for a bit.
I briefly reconnect with the booth set.
Next venue.
At new venue, see two girls in the back. Instant open. Tell one of them she has a cute smile. Chat for a while, my wing shows up and actually kills its for me. They leave.
NEXT VENUE
I open the group at the entrance. Birthday girl. Tell one girl she has a cute smile, then talk a ton with the other girl. This works great, as its like the last girl really wants a compliment also. A huge group of dudes and girls arrives, we bounce.
I open a set. I tell one of the girls she slimed me. This insights quite the negative reaction. They tell me they are lesbians. I move on.
I see a girl with a few piercing and tattoos. She says her nights going boring. She is with some dude that is fucking huge ogre. She said he wasn't her BF but jesus christ. Pock marked giant. No possible way to amog this guy in my current reality.
The Good:
So many things went well.
Opened a massive amount of sets.
Approached with an empty mind, not worried about what to say.
Got some great blow outs.
Got some decent wing game in.
Got a phone number.
A bit of kino here and there.
The Bad:
Only one number close, I should have just been throwing my phone in chics hands. Gotta number close way more.
Stayed out until midnight, wanted to stay out until 2 am.
Sa wall in my escalation.
Would be nice to ramp up the physical escalation.
The Ugly:
"But wait, I love you!"
This was a great night, I love Fridays. I met up with some novice wings fairly early on, which helped me be a bit more bold. Although I wish I could self generate this boldness.
First set is Two girls by the bar. I chat with them for a few minutes warming up. I break away and stand by myself to get the vibe.
As I am chilling, I see two cute girls in a booth meant for two. I come up and do a decent job with banter and a little rapport. They are cute, I interpret their tattoos. I am getting a decent vibe. I go in for a number close. She is resistant. I tell her she will never meet another guy like me. She puts in her number, with her name and "from XX". I give her a hug when she leaves.
Three girls in booth. Basically another warm up set. One is very married, the other is way to fat, and the third is a mute.
Wings show up.
There is a huge party going on upstairs so I go and check it out. Indeed, a ton of woman. A bride walks by and i approach. She says she has to go, she is getting married, for fun I say "but i love you!" good times.
I don't end up opening the group, there is a bit to much going on at their table for me to break in, or so i rationalize.
I talk to the waitress who i talked to on a few occasions. Just a little chit chat, i don't try much on her.
I see two girls searching on the ground for a ring. I come and help them, i spot them and recover it for them. Its a wedding ring. Grateful, she points out the girls in her group that aren't married. Sweet. Instant rapport. Then one of the girls turns around. I recognize her but don't remember our previous interaction, it couldn't have been that bad. She knows the waitress. She just goes "NO NO NO! Go away!" and physically pushes me away. Her friends are super confused and a little upset.
By far the harshest blow out of the night. Me and my wings bounce to the next venue.
At the next venue, I open a group of three girls. One of them knows me. I try to remember from which set. I remember now, she was with a hot blond that i SHOULD have went dancing with. The whole table has boyfriends. She reaffirms this. I say love breaks down all barriers. I think she believes I am talking about her, when in reality I am talking about her hot blond friend who isn't there.
I send one of the novice wings in to open a two set of girls in a booth. He does a decent job, i come and run wing on the last. She is very cute. I should have number closed her after she asked me to sit down, a random bunch of girls and guys show up so I let them get to know each other.
I see three girls huddling in a triangle. I walk up and comment on how they are positioned to block everyone out. The hottest pounces on me, the brunet hates me. Brutal group, I power through it. Its difficult to pass their shit tests, some i fail by responding directly and rationalizing. I stay anyway. Finally my wing shows up, i tell the girls that he is much nicer than me. They are turn and address him. I try for the brunet. She looks at her friend and says "i really don't like him". I was giving her cold reads, which i think I was getting spot on. Despite what she was saying, i still though she was interested. Regardless, i bounce.
Bump into some other dude i met at Hot seat, chat for a bit.
I briefly reconnect with the booth set.
Next venue.
At new venue, see two girls in the back. Instant open. Tell one of them she has a cute smile. Chat for a while, my wing shows up and actually kills its for me. They leave.
NEXT VENUE
I open the group at the entrance. Birthday girl. Tell one girl she has a cute smile, then talk a ton with the other girl. This works great, as its like the last girl really wants a compliment also. A huge group of dudes and girls arrives, we bounce.
I open a set. I tell one of the girls she slimed me. This insights quite the negative reaction. They tell me they are lesbians. I move on.
I see a girl with a few piercing and tattoos. She says her nights going boring. She is with some dude that is fucking huge ogre. She said he wasn't her BF but jesus christ. Pock marked giant. No possible way to amog this guy in my current reality.
The Good:
So many things went well.
Opened a massive amount of sets.
Approached with an empty mind, not worried about what to say.
Got some great blow outs.
Got some decent wing game in.
Got a phone number.
A bit of kino here and there.
The Bad:
Only one number close, I should have just been throwing my phone in chics hands. Gotta number close way more.
Stayed out until midnight, wanted to stay out until 2 am.
Sa wall in my escalation.
Would be nice to ramp up the physical escalation.
The Ugly:
"But wait, I love you!"
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My Second 30 Day Challenge FR http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233721/forum?page=7
Day 17
I am really trying to think positively about last night, but it was chock full of blow outs and boring sets.
Before the night begins I perform 20 mins of meditation. I had been a dabbler of meditation long before RSD, but i haven't been doing it over my 30 day challenge. It really calmed me down but throughout the night i felt totally in my head. This may not have been the result of the meditation, but my poor attitude with Saturdays in general.
First set actually went pretty well, built a little banter with the girls. Interpreted some tattoos. They eventually leave for the private party upstairs.
Approached two girls. One of them tells me her name, the other just says "im her friend" she says she doesn't talk to strangers.
Approach two girls. Start chatting, I can barely hear them because of the loud music. One of them seems kinda in to me but damn her face is ugly. They say they are waiting for someone. Essentially shooing me away.
I wander around a bit, wing shows up and finds some people he knows.
Get to the next venue. I wander around a bit, fall into my head. Probably two sets I could have opened. Wing shows up and opens one of the sets. Gets blow out.
Go to another venue.
Half a decent encounter with a birthday/batchlorete party. Talked a bit with one of the girls. They bounce.
Give an opinion opener with a false time constraint, lame.
Open another set after I accidentally photo boom their picture. Doesn't last long.
Go back to the first venue. Wing knows some dudes. I have a hard time interacting with them. One is a wannabe AMOG but with low value.
I wander around a bit, no opens.
A girl i opened from the beginning of the night walks by, I try to get her phone number. I get the first three numbers. Sweet.
We go to where there is a bachlorette party. We get there and chill. There is a Natural among us. He goes and strikes it big with the party. I approach a satellite group of them. Try to win the table, get sucked into a hottie next to me. She is totally not into it, talk about random crap.
Bounce.
The Good:
I approached alot of sets where I wasn't sure if i even wanted to.
I was pretty chill all night.
Got blown out sooo much.
The Bad:
Got blown out sooo much.
Reverted into interview mode way too much. Tons of boring conversations.
The Ugly:
"Can i have your phone number?"
"No"
"Can i have some of the numbers?"
I am really trying to think positively about last night, but it was chock full of blow outs and boring sets.
Before the night begins I perform 20 mins of meditation. I had been a dabbler of meditation long before RSD, but i haven't been doing it over my 30 day challenge. It really calmed me down but throughout the night i felt totally in my head. This may not have been the result of the meditation, but my poor attitude with Saturdays in general.
First set actually went pretty well, built a little banter with the girls. Interpreted some tattoos. They eventually leave for the private party upstairs.
Approached two girls. One of them tells me her name, the other just says "im her friend" she says she doesn't talk to strangers.
Approach two girls. Start chatting, I can barely hear them because of the loud music. One of them seems kinda in to me but damn her face is ugly. They say they are waiting for someone. Essentially shooing me away.
I wander around a bit, wing shows up and finds some people he knows.
Get to the next venue. I wander around a bit, fall into my head. Probably two sets I could have opened. Wing shows up and opens one of the sets. Gets blow out.
Go to another venue.
Half a decent encounter with a birthday/batchlorete party. Talked a bit with one of the girls. They bounce.
Give an opinion opener with a false time constraint, lame.
Open another set after I accidentally photo boom their picture. Doesn't last long.
Go back to the first venue. Wing knows some dudes. I have a hard time interacting with them. One is a wannabe AMOG but with low value.
I wander around a bit, no opens.
A girl i opened from the beginning of the night walks by, I try to get her phone number. I get the first three numbers. Sweet.
We go to where there is a bachlorette party. We get there and chill. There is a Natural among us. He goes and strikes it big with the party. I approach a satellite group of them. Try to win the table, get sucked into a hottie next to me. She is totally not into it, talk about random crap.
Bounce.
The Good:
I approached alot of sets where I wasn't sure if i even wanted to.
I was pretty chill all night.
Got blown out sooo much.
The Bad:
Got blown out sooo much.
Reverted into interview mode way too much. Tons of boring conversations.
The Ugly:
"Can i have your phone number?"
"No"
"Can i have some of the numbers?"
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