THE FORUMS
Interesting ideas. I definitely think you as a parent have to put a lot of limits on your child's uncontrolled "self esteem."
We talk a lot about how social conditioning is bad, but honestly the large majority of social conditioning is a good thing and prevents you from acting like, well, a giant 2 year old throwing temper tantrums when you don't get your way.
That being said, I would definitely want to foster self confidence, self trust, and other alpha traits in any kids I might have in the future. I guess we'll have to wait for Tyler's Blueprint for Parents coming out in 2025 or so haha.
Also, pure nerd tangent here, but do you actually realize how long 10,000 hours is?
If you went out 3 hours/night, 7 nights a week, 365 days a year, it would take you over 9 YEARS to get to 10,000 hours!!!!
If you went out beasting 24/7 and literally never slept or ate, it would take you 1 year, 1 month, and 20 days to reach 10000 hours!
I doubt even Tyler has actually reached 10,000 hours of infield time yet, though he's probably closer than almost anyone else.
So yeah, good luck with that haha.
We talk a lot about how social conditioning is bad, but honestly the large majority of social conditioning is a good thing and prevents you from acting like, well, a giant 2 year old throwing temper tantrums when you don't get your way.
That being said, I would definitely want to foster self confidence, self trust, and other alpha traits in any kids I might have in the future. I guess we'll have to wait for Tyler's Blueprint for Parents coming out in 2025 or so haha.
Also, pure nerd tangent here, but do you actually realize how long 10,000 hours is?
If you went out 3 hours/night, 7 nights a week, 365 days a year, it would take you over 9 YEARS to get to 10,000 hours!!!!
If you went out beasting 24/7 and literally never slept or ate, it would take you 1 year, 1 month, and 20 days to reach 10000 hours!
I doubt even Tyler has actually reached 10,000 hours of infield time yet, though he's probably closer than almost anyone else.
So yeah, good luck with that haha.
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Interesting ideas. I definitely think you as a parent have to put a lot of limits on your child's uncontrolled "self esteem."
We talk a lot about how social conditioning is bad, but honestly the large majority of social conditioning is a good thing and prevents you from acting like, well, a giant 2 year old throwing temper tantrums when you don't get your way.
That being said, I would definitely want to foster self confidence, self trust, and other alpha traits in any kids I might have in the future. I guess we'll have to wait for Tyler's Blueprint for Parents coming out in 2025 or so haha.
Also, pure nerd tangent here, but do you actually realize how long 10,000 hours is?
If you went out 3 hours/night, 7 nights a week, 365 days a year, it would take you over 9 YEARS to get to 10,000 hours!!!!
If you went out beasting 24/7 and literally never slept or ate, it would take you 1 year, 1 month, and 20 days to reach 10000 hours!
I doubt even Tyler has actually reached 10,000 hours of infield time yet, though he's probably closer than almost anyone else.
So yeah, good luck with that haha.
Yah I broke the formula down for guitar at 5 years, and that isn't even feasible with my schedule. You ultimately have to make the skillset your lifestyle. Depending on how things go, I may get there in 10 years. It is a motivating concept, but paradoxically unmotivating when you realize how much fucking time it takes -- and consistency!! I don't want to become a degenerate and neglect health and finances to exclusively focus on game either. So naturally, it will take a LONG ASS TIME...but I do want to do 3-4 month bursts of ALL OUT beasting. Or just instruct and it becomes your lifestyle. We talk a lot about how social conditioning is bad, but honestly the large majority of social conditioning is a good thing and prevents you from acting like, well, a giant 2 year old throwing temper tantrums when you don't get your way.
That being said, I would definitely want to foster self confidence, self trust, and other alpha traits in any kids I might have in the future. I guess we'll have to wait for Tyler's Blueprint for Parents coming out in 2025 or so haha.
Also, pure nerd tangent here, but do you actually realize how long 10,000 hours is?
If you went out 3 hours/night, 7 nights a week, 365 days a year, it would take you over 9 YEARS to get to 10,000 hours!!!!
If you went out beasting 24/7 and literally never slept or ate, it would take you 1 year, 1 month, and 20 days to reach 10000 hours!
I doubt even Tyler has actually reached 10,000 hours of infield time yet, though he's probably closer than almost anyone else.
So yeah, good luck with that haha.
Raising kids that aren't screwed up.
Step one: don't be screwed up
Step two: make sure their mother isn't screwed up
Step three: insulate them from societies messages which are screwed up(limit television time)
Step four: don't protect them from the negative consequences of their decisions
Step five: Ummm, still working on it.
Step one: don't be screwed up
Step two: make sure their mother isn't screwed up
Step three: insulate them from societies messages which are screwed up(limit television time)
Step four: don't protect them from the negative consequences of their decisions
Step five: Ummm, still working on it.
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Life. There are no dress rehearsals.
Life. There are no dress rehearsals.
Raising kids that aren't screwed up.
Step one: don't be screwed up
Step two: make sure their mother isn't screwed up
Step three: insulate them from societies messages which are screwed up(limit television time)
Step four: don't protect them from the negative consequences of their decisions
Step five: Ummm, still working on it.
Well said :) Step one: don't be screwed up
Step two: make sure their mother isn't screwed up
Step three: insulate them from societies messages which are screwed up(limit television time)
Step four: don't protect them from the negative consequences of their decisions
Step five: Ummm, still working on it.
I would also add:
Teach them to be good at something. Make them practice something, not like life encompassing trying to raise a chess champion level, but either sports or music or some activity they enjoy, nurture it and show them how improvement happens over time, and they can achieve/be good at something if they work at it. The value of work and dedication basically.
Teach them to be good at something. Make them practice something, not like life encompassing trying to raise a chess champion level, but either sports or music or some activity they enjoy, nurture it and show them how improvement happens over time, and they can achieve/be good at something if they work at it. The value of work and dedication basically.
Raising kids that aren't screwed up.
Step one: don't be screwed up
Step two: make sure their mother isn't screwed up
Step three: insulate them from societies messages which are screwed up(limit television time)
Step four: don't protect them from the negative consequences of their decisions
Step five: Ummm, still working on it.
Step one: don't be screwed up
Step two: make sure their mother isn't screwed up
Step three: insulate them from societies messages which are screwed up(limit television time)
Step four: don't protect them from the negative consequences of their decisions
Step five: Ummm, still working on it.
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I feel you. You did some great thinking in here, and sometimes i see myself doing the same. As life goes on I tend to realise at a deeper level how skills require time to be mastered: will power, jiu-jitsu, mathematics, pimpin. You are given a certain amount of time and you have to distribute it acording to your intentions in life, acording to the areas of your life that you want to develop, and sometimes, for me, it feels like it's not enough.
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Interesting ideas. I definitely think you as a parent have to put a lot of limits on your child's uncontrolled "self esteem."
We talk a lot about how social conditioning is bad, but honestly the large majority of social conditioning is a good thing and prevents you from acting like, well, a giant 2 year old throwing temper tantrums when you don't get your way.
That being said, I would definitely want to foster self confidence, self trust, and other alpha traits in any kids I might have in the future. I guess we'll have to wait for Tyler's Blueprint for Parents coming out in 2025 or so haha.
Also, pure nerd tangent here, but do you actually realize how long 10,000 hours is?
If you went out 3 hours/night, 7 nights a week, 365 days a year, it would take you over 9 YEARS to get to 10,000 hours!!!!
If you went out beasting 24/7 and literally never slept or ate, it would take you 1 year, 1 month, and 20 days to reach 10000 hours!
I doubt even Tyler has actually reached 10,000 hours of infield time yet, though he's probably closer than almost anyone else.
So yeah, good luck with that haha.
Yah I broke the formula down for guitar at 5 years, and that isn't even feasible with my schedule. You ultimately have to make the skillset your lifestyle. Depending on how things go, I may get there in 10 years. It is a motivating concept, but paradoxically unmotivating when you realize how much fucking time it takes -- and consistency!! I don't want to become a degenerate and neglect health and finances to exclusively focus on game either. So naturally, it will take a LONG ASS TIME...but I do want to do 3-4 month bursts of ALL OUT beasting. Or just instruct and it becomes your lifestyle.We talk a lot about how social conditioning is bad, but honestly the large majority of social conditioning is a good thing and prevents you from acting like, well, a giant 2 year old throwing temper tantrums when you don't get your way.
That being said, I would definitely want to foster self confidence, self trust, and other alpha traits in any kids I might have in the future. I guess we'll have to wait for Tyler's Blueprint for Parents coming out in 2025 or so haha.
Also, pure nerd tangent here, but do you actually realize how long 10,000 hours is?
If you went out 3 hours/night, 7 nights a week, 365 days a year, it would take you over 9 YEARS to get to 10,000 hours!!!!
If you went out beasting 24/7 and literally never slept or ate, it would take you 1 year, 1 month, and 20 days to reach 10000 hours!
I doubt even Tyler has actually reached 10,000 hours of infield time yet, though he's probably closer than almost anyone else.
So yeah, good luck with that haha.
When it comes to Guitar, the fastest way to master the instrument is to actually write origional compositions, and record yourself. Learning other people's music from tabs or transcribing by ear are fundamentally important to learn some basic things, but in order to master your instrument, you must understand music, and that can only be accomplished through writing, recording, and listenining. Improvisation is also a critically important skill that you will develop during the writing process.
If you want to play fast, face melting, guitar shredding. There is only 1 path.
Buy a metrinome..
Drink lots of coffee.
Practice out of this book until your hands are too tired every day.
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My Field Reports:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/208534/forum
If you are a Newb READ THIS FIRST, THEN GO OUT:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/170650
Whatever I thought might hold me back, I avoided. I crossed girls off my list, except as tools for my sexual needs." - From the 1977 autobiography "Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder" by Arnold Schwarzenegger
haha nice. Thanks dude. I do record myself, and I try to transcribe music heh -- I'm nowhere near as profficient at guitar as you
Yeah the weird thing is being years into it and then realizing "Oh, the 10,000 hours is 10,000 hours of 'deliberate practice' -- time to start over!"
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RSD Misinterpreted: A Series of Posts on Popular RSD Ideas and How I Used to Misunderstand Them
Coming to you every Sunday...
►Part I -- What Tyler means by "Drop the Self-Image Paradigm"
►Part II -- [What Do You Want to Hear About On a Coming Sunday?]
Coming to you every Sunday...
►Part I -- What Tyler means by "Drop the Self-Image Paradigm"
►Part II -- [What Do You Want to Hear About On a Coming Sunday?]
I've literally practiced guitar anywhere from 3-14 hours a day for the last year *roughly* probably more often 6+ hours with some daysi nbetween with low hours and couple days none at all cause of hand problems.
Because i've had no job it's just been my outlet. Even almost developed tendonitus from overplaying. And i've done dedicated learning here and there among playing alot following DVD's from licklibrary and sources like that learning others songs "Trying" to do theory and yeah progress is FUCKING slow.
Any skillset you have to be in it for the long ass haul i'm afraid.
Because i've had no job it's just been my outlet. Even almost developed tendonitus from overplaying. And i've done dedicated learning here and there among playing alot following DVD's from licklibrary and sources like that learning others songs "Trying" to do theory and yeah progress is FUCKING slow.
Any skillset you have to be in it for the long ass haul i'm afraid.
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Remember kids: raw heroes, do not become war heroes.
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I’m writing this at work in the brewhouse at Goose today, and it is about 110 degrees with the kettle boiling…holy shit!
I haven’t been thinking about this upcoming topic too much, so it may be a little nebulous, but you get the point.
I’m reading Outliers again (highly recommended), and one of my favorite discussions in the book is the 10,000 hour rule. To summarize, the author explains that MASTERS of a specific skill have acquired at least 10,000 hours before they reached that level of proficiency. He uses musicians, composers, computer programmers, etc… as examples. Pretty awesome stuff.
You don’t suck for the first 9,999 hours and then *POOF* you are a master, but you progress in skill as you put more and more time in. I am seeing this in my guitar playing development…slowly but surely, I’m improving over time.
This rule ties in nicely with George Leonard’s discussion of hitting plateaus as you develop in the book Mastery.
Owen has talked at length about hitting plateaus and how exciting it is to realize that you are converging on a new epiphany…
I’m fascinated by this rule and its application to developing the skillset we are focused on learning through studying RSD.
I’ve been going out for a couple years now (definitely not with consistency), and my game is always improving and evolving. Is it possible that after 10,000 hours of time in field I’ll be a master at this? HIGHLY unlikely. The reason I say that is mastery requires DEDICATED practice. How many times have I gone out and not seriously pushed myself? How many times have I been out and neglected to focus on a specific area I wanted to improve in?
I’m a hobbyist for sure, but I still see a difference between going out and hitting up the club versus going out and practicing with dedication.
It is sorta WEIRD to even discuss going out to socialize as something you practice. We are always talking about developing into this self-actualized guy who is a natural (Read: a learned natural).
Does this make sense?
The more you go out though, the more reference experiences you develop, and the better you get…
I also like to compare learning game to learning something that hasn’t been fully developed yet... like training for MMA (it is such a new sport that there isn't an established training system like a sport with more history). Owen started out over 10 years ago, but he didn’t have anyone breaking things down in the simplest terms. No one had dug deep and uncovered the RAW underlying principles that accelerate the learning curve.
I figure 10,000 hours of field time (including those nights where you go out and fuck around, those nights where you go out for 1hr and pull, those rough nights, those glorious nights, etc…) will develop you into a pretty huge pimp.
We are all fortunate to have access to bootcamps with the world’s best. We have access to FREE front page RSDn videos that break down the most cutting edge realizations. Pretty bomb opportunity for everyone that wants to take this to the next level.
Owen broke down what I have been thinking about for the past few weeks really well in a recent article:
You have to let go of what works sometimes to get to the next level.
There is no DESTINATION, it will always be about the journey, and ultimately for me it is about having FUN…but man, I love when I learn new things and my shit gets tighter each year.
In the future, I’m going to start getting summers off, and will likely move to Vegas so I can go out every night for 2-3 months. That would be the ultimate full immersion experience! My LONG TERM goal is to work exclusively from my laptop (consulting, IM, etc…) and pimp it every night.
Raising Gangster Children
After reading Outliers again, I’ve been thinking a lot about raising kids (which I will not be doing any time soon by choice)…specifically a son – if I have a daughter she’ll be a slut by default haha.
I was watching one of Owen’s front page videos, and he talks about the whole ego/self-esteem topic. It got me to thinking about what causes your self-esteem to get damaged, and MUST this happen to every child growing up?
What if a child’s self-esteem was preserved? Is that even possible…or desirable?
I’m grateful I had to “re-discover” my self-esteem, but I have no perspective of what it would have been like to never lose it in the first place (if that is even possible).
For instance if you protected your child’s self-esteem, if (inevitably, when) his self-esteem gets bruised and he formulates an ego to protect his sense of identity, that would be more destructive at an older age…wouldn’t you think?
More realistically, it is damn near impossible to raise your child to preserve his self-esteem because his brain is growing and he hasn’t reached the maturity level to entirely comprehend the principle behind this.
I feel that any child raised in that manor would be hyper-protected by his parents and not be allowed to experience the world around him. Which would fucking suck!
Just some weird ideas I’ve been speculating about lately…
I have a pretty good idea how I’d raise kids if I have them though. The one thing I specifically remember and HATE the most was when my parents said “because I said so.”
Having a rational explanation for why I can’t do something would have been much easier to swallow. Disciplining your children is important, but I feel that you can raise your kids in a disciplined manner without having to force authority like that.
Granted in the moment of raising children, my perspectives may change. My parents also didn’t have the luxury of learning about self-development and social dynamics like I have. I’m a completely different person. I have disconnected from group think (for the most part, I’m sure there are slivers of it still waiting to be weeded out).
I’m sure Owen is doing a great job raising his kids. It has to be crazy to have children and live his busy lifestyle though.
“Where’s daddy?”
“At the club…” haha
What are your thoughts on raising kids?
Jeffy is the smart one…he circumvented the whole process of raising them and adopted an intern lol