THE FORUMS
Day 2 (Day 1 was horrible, so I didn't even bother to write anything up)
So went out tonight for a couple hours. Hit up some bars downtown... which were actually surprisingly decent. Like there were more people than I expected for a Sunday night
Anyway- just to prefice this, I've been doing a 30 day sober/solo challenge for a variety of reasons, so this is actually new to me- like going to a bar completely sober and alone and doing cold approach.
I still have some approach anxiety but I have quickly realized that the best way to get over that is to... approach lmao.
some solid notes from the night: I approached the hottest girl there. It was pretty weak, not gonna lie, but I had solid eye contact lol I was literally expecting her to not tell me her name so when she did tell me I literally was like, "Wait, what?" then she quickly told me she was going downstairs
Uhmm so then I ordered a water and a pbr at the bar... just cause when it's not busy I don't wanna get called out for not ordering anything and I chill for maybe like 3-4 minutes and then this girl comes over and meets her friend who is like right in front of me to the right and then she looks at me and then starts dancing all sudductively so like obviously I kinda figured she was doing it for me. So I grab her hand and pull her off the dance floor and I'm like, "What's up" lol my openers are pretty gay but they also are pretty cool cause like... it's just me.
Okay- just want to put this out there... I'm still at a point when I'm sober and alone that I'm like literally shitting bricks haha. The cool thing is that I am beginning to approach and just plow through it. The first night I went out I literally did like one approach, got yelled at super hard, like INTENSE blowout and then went to a different bar and bounced home... lol that was the first night, so after that I was like, fuck this, every night I'm going to do one additional approach... I know it doesn't sound like a lot and it's pretty basic and shit but I've been using alcohol as a major crutch, so for me this is good. And on top of that, I've stuck to that promise to myself and just think about it- in one month, I'll be approaching 30 girls a night! So laugh now, while you still can ; )
Also- I am starting manwhore training in a week, so yeah, there's that.
Anyway- back to the girl.. so, I'm shitting a brick and I pull her off the dance floor and I'm like, "What's up" and literally like my legs are fucking shaking haha... I sound gay but it's the truth and hell, I didn't let it stop me from doin shit... and so I'm sitting there literally shaking, but despite that I'm still able to keep really fucking amazing eye contact, which is the weird part- like inside I'm shitting a brick and parts are me are shaking and I can't control it, but the shit like eye contact, that I can control, I do a pretty solid job of controlling.
Anyway- she opens right up, starts asking me tons of chode questions and I'm still shaking haha... all of a sudden I'm just standing there answering her questions, making sure to sorta stand as tall as I can and keep solid posture and whatnot... and like I'm a pretty tall dude so at one point she starts like grabbing the back of my neck to pull me in closer to talk and stuff..
Oh yeah- before all of this, at first she was like, "I have to go get a drink" and I was just like, "uh, okay" and then she kinda like lingered on me with her eye contact and then slowly walked away and in my head I was like, "Hmm I think I know what to do here" and so I grabbed her and pulled her back and I was like, "What's up- why'd you look at me all funny".. (Idk if that's what I was supposed to SAY but I knew at the very least that I was supposed to pull her back).. and I'm smiling and shit and she's like, "whaaaaaat" kinda sheepishly (or it was something like that) and we keep talking for a bit and then at one point she mentions again, "I have to go get a drink" and I'm like, "Okay" and then she just stands there and then is like, "Well, you don't have to buy it for me, I just have to go get a drink" and I'm just like, "Okay" hahaha I literally in my head was just like, "Dude, she's totally trying to girl code you to do something... But... but... but... I dont speak girl code..." lmao.
So I kinda laugh and I grab her hand and I'm like okay, little missy, I'll hold your hand and walk you to the bar" but I said it in the tone of like a mom talking to her kid and she got the joke and started laughing and kept holding my hand... then I'm like, "what do you drink?" and she's like, "I'm getting a corona" and I'm like, "Oh really?" and she's like, "what.... what SHOULD I get, what do you drink?" and I look at her and I'm like, "uhh, actually, I don't drink" (felt pretty badass saying this, now that I'm actually NOT drinking) and I'm like, "Yeah, corona tastes like complete but it's like drinking a skunk but yeah, I bought a pbr so I don't get shit from the bartender" and I tell her she can just have that... so I go over, grab it and give it to her- problem solved.
She also must have sorta trusted me at this point- that or I could be a really awesome ruffier
So then we keep talking and she asks what I do and at first I just tell her I rock out (Fuck.. super lame but I was nervous and was just saying the first shit that would come into my head) but she laughed anyway and was like, "No, really, what do you do?" and I'm like, "I'm a mechanical pencil repairman"
Okay- so not having alcohol has def. made me a lot more miscalibrated in the short term... like I said this and I thought I was smiling but like... she totally believed me LMFAO... I thought this was hilarious... like she's all, "Oh okay" and I'm like, "Yeah, I repair mechanical pencils" and she's like, "That's awesome, I'm a publicist" and I'm like, "Dude you should totally be the publicist for my mechanical puencil repair business" and she's ilke, "Yeah! give me your business card" and I'm like dying of laughter at this point cause I'm kinda just trolling this girl but like I didn't intend for it to be a troll at first, but when she didn't get it I was like, ooo well this will be fun. So I'm like, "Oh.. I don't have any business cards" and she's like, "Oh damn, that would be awesome though"... I'm like, "Yeah" and then just give her a good ol' fashioned stare down (okay so I just want to say that at no point during this conversation did I stop shaking- I'm such a pussy.. but seriously guys, I'm going to get really good at this... SOBER.. and yall are gonna be like... the fuck? This dudes doin crazy shit) Like I can already see how much better I will be sober than I ever was when I drank... like everything is so much sharper, and I'm a pretty smart dude (Lumosity anyone?) so like this is gonna be awesome...
So I give her eye contact and don't say anything and she's looking back up at me and I grab her and pull her to the dance floor and she immediately tries to put her ass on my cock and I'm like, not yet girl, I gotta get to know you first (didn't actually say this) but I give her a little spin and pull her in and then grab right above her ass (totally should have just grabbed her ass... fuck) and we start grinding (lol I literally don't think I've EVER grinded a girl sober... like even in hs I would drink before dances with my buddies) I don't think yall understand just how much alcohol has been a crutch for me... like I've been using the shit since hs lmao... but this is kinda awesome cause you just kinda feel like a boss cause like, it's all you... it's just you putting you out there and seeing what happens
We dance a little and then I pull her off the floor and start talkign to her about some shit... I forget what it was.. but it was probably something really lame cause like I was just saying whatever came to my head.. literally.. I was too nervous to do anything else and i knew that if I stopped to think about anything I was gonna get in my head.. so I didn't... but I was still making sure to keep my voice relatively slow and shit... I just wasn't allowing myself to think. I was tryna sorta meditate.. but it's def. not the same in a club lmao.
So we talk for a bit and then some like SUPER SUPER jacked dude comes over and starts whispering in her ear and as he's doing this I grab her waist, pull her in and I'm like, "Do you know this guy" and she's like, "Yeah, I came with him" and in my head I'm like, "Oh..." so he steps back and I introduce myself to him and he tries to ignore me but she looks at him and is like, "He wants to introduce himself to you" so he introduces himself back but then just like leaves... I was slightly confused... but fair enough
But then she's like, "Okay I have to go" and she starts to leave and I pull her back and I'm like, "Hey I gotta leave in like 3 minutes so let me get your number".. grab the # and she lingers for a bit and looking back I totally could have plowed and kept her around but honestly my heart was racing hahaha
It's hilarious cause all of this is like soooo basic when I was drinking but literally after I got her number I was just SO fucking PUMPED lmao, like seriously. I was like a little kid who just scored his first goal in soccer, I was like, "Hell yeah, I got... I got.. A NUMBER" and then I left the venue and went home. hahaha idk this made me laugh at myself.
It's cool though, I told myself I didn't care how much my results went down when I stopped drinking, that I was going to do this and get good at it the RIGHT way, the way that is sustainable and will allow me to balance everything in my life... And I can already sense that this is going to be tough but that I am going to get good at this...
lol another thing I was laughing about was like how attracted she was getting to me, despite the fact that I was literally shaking haha, like in my head I was all, "Wait... this isn't how this is supposed to work"... aren't my emotions supposed to be projecting onto her... but wtvr, I mean even though I was nervous, I was still having a good time and laughing, mainly at my incredible trolling job... but still..
My first sober #... OOOOO YEAHHHH... it's been like 2 or 3 nights so wtvr, it is what it is. Maybe by the end of this challenge I'll get a makeout! haha I'm kidding.. well I mean, sorta.. I mean, I better have at least one makeout by the end of this lmfao.. if I dno't I'll be pretty confused... I bet I'll have one really fucking soon actually.. but if I don't that's cool, I got time. And then... sober sex? ooo but now we're getting ahead of ourselves (If you can't tell, I'm def. making fun of myself right now)
Who else is goin to AA tomorrow? lmao, jokes
So went out tonight for a couple hours. Hit up some bars downtown... which were actually surprisingly decent. Like there were more people than I expected for a Sunday night
Anyway- just to prefice this, I've been doing a 30 day sober/solo challenge for a variety of reasons, so this is actually new to me- like going to a bar completely sober and alone and doing cold approach.
I still have some approach anxiety but I have quickly realized that the best way to get over that is to... approach lmao.
some solid notes from the night: I approached the hottest girl there. It was pretty weak, not gonna lie, but I had solid eye contact lol I was literally expecting her to not tell me her name so when she did tell me I literally was like, "Wait, what?" then she quickly told me she was going downstairs
Uhmm so then I ordered a water and a pbr at the bar... just cause when it's not busy I don't wanna get called out for not ordering anything and I chill for maybe like 3-4 minutes and then this girl comes over and meets her friend who is like right in front of me to the right and then she looks at me and then starts dancing all sudductively so like obviously I kinda figured she was doing it for me. So I grab her hand and pull her off the dance floor and I'm like, "What's up" lol my openers are pretty gay but they also are pretty cool cause like... it's just me.
Okay- just want to put this out there... I'm still at a point when I'm sober and alone that I'm like literally shitting bricks haha. The cool thing is that I am beginning to approach and just plow through it. The first night I went out I literally did like one approach, got yelled at super hard, like INTENSE blowout and then went to a different bar and bounced home... lol that was the first night, so after that I was like, fuck this, every night I'm going to do one additional approach... I know it doesn't sound like a lot and it's pretty basic and shit but I've been using alcohol as a major crutch, so for me this is good. And on top of that, I've stuck to that promise to myself and just think about it- in one month, I'll be approaching 30 girls a night! So laugh now, while you still can ; )
Also- I am starting manwhore training in a week, so yeah, there's that.
Anyway- back to the girl.. so, I'm shitting a brick and I pull her off the dance floor and I'm like, "What's up" and literally like my legs are fucking shaking haha... I sound gay but it's the truth and hell, I didn't let it stop me from doin shit... and so I'm sitting there literally shaking, but despite that I'm still able to keep really fucking amazing eye contact, which is the weird part- like inside I'm shitting a brick and parts are me are shaking and I can't control it, but the shit like eye contact, that I can control, I do a pretty solid job of controlling.
Anyway- she opens right up, starts asking me tons of chode questions and I'm still shaking haha... all of a sudden I'm just standing there answering her questions, making sure to sorta stand as tall as I can and keep solid posture and whatnot... and like I'm a pretty tall dude so at one point she starts like grabbing the back of my neck to pull me in closer to talk and stuff..
Oh yeah- before all of this, at first she was like, "I have to go get a drink" and I was just like, "uh, okay" and then she kinda like lingered on me with her eye contact and then slowly walked away and in my head I was like, "Hmm I think I know what to do here" and so I grabbed her and pulled her back and I was like, "What's up- why'd you look at me all funny".. (Idk if that's what I was supposed to SAY but I knew at the very least that I was supposed to pull her back).. and I'm smiling and shit and she's like, "whaaaaaat" kinda sheepishly (or it was something like that) and we keep talking for a bit and then at one point she mentions again, "I have to go get a drink" and I'm like, "Okay" and then she just stands there and then is like, "Well, you don't have to buy it for me, I just have to go get a drink" and I'm just like, "Okay" hahaha I literally in my head was just like, "Dude, she's totally trying to girl code you to do something... But... but... but... I dont speak girl code..." lmao.
So I kinda laugh and I grab her hand and I'm like okay, little missy, I'll hold your hand and walk you to the bar" but I said it in the tone of like a mom talking to her kid and she got the joke and started laughing and kept holding my hand... then I'm like, "what do you drink?" and she's like, "I'm getting a corona" and I'm like, "Oh really?" and she's like, "what.... what SHOULD I get, what do you drink?" and I look at her and I'm like, "uhh, actually, I don't drink" (felt pretty badass saying this, now that I'm actually NOT drinking) and I'm like, "Yeah, corona tastes like complete but it's like drinking a skunk but yeah, I bought a pbr so I don't get shit from the bartender" and I tell her she can just have that... so I go over, grab it and give it to her- problem solved.
She also must have sorta trusted me at this point- that or I could be a really awesome ruffier
So then we keep talking and she asks what I do and at first I just tell her I rock out (Fuck.. super lame but I was nervous and was just saying the first shit that would come into my head) but she laughed anyway and was like, "No, really, what do you do?" and I'm like, "I'm a mechanical pencil repairman"
Okay- so not having alcohol has def. made me a lot more miscalibrated in the short term... like I said this and I thought I was smiling but like... she totally believed me LMFAO... I thought this was hilarious... like she's all, "Oh okay" and I'm like, "Yeah, I repair mechanical pencils" and she's like, "That's awesome, I'm a publicist" and I'm like, "Dude you should totally be the publicist for my mechanical puencil repair business" and she's ilke, "Yeah! give me your business card" and I'm like dying of laughter at this point cause I'm kinda just trolling this girl but like I didn't intend for it to be a troll at first, but when she didn't get it I was like, ooo well this will be fun. So I'm like, "Oh.. I don't have any business cards" and she's like, "Oh damn, that would be awesome though"... I'm like, "Yeah" and then just give her a good ol' fashioned stare down (okay so I just want to say that at no point during this conversation did I stop shaking- I'm such a pussy.. but seriously guys, I'm going to get really good at this... SOBER.. and yall are gonna be like... the fuck? This dudes doin crazy shit) Like I can already see how much better I will be sober than I ever was when I drank... like everything is so much sharper, and I'm a pretty smart dude (Lumosity anyone?) so like this is gonna be awesome...
So I give her eye contact and don't say anything and she's looking back up at me and I grab her and pull her to the dance floor and she immediately tries to put her ass on my cock and I'm like, not yet girl, I gotta get to know you first (didn't actually say this) but I give her a little spin and pull her in and then grab right above her ass (totally should have just grabbed her ass... fuck) and we start grinding (lol I literally don't think I've EVER grinded a girl sober... like even in hs I would drink before dances with my buddies) I don't think yall understand just how much alcohol has been a crutch for me... like I've been using the shit since hs lmao... but this is kinda awesome cause you just kinda feel like a boss cause like, it's all you... it's just you putting you out there and seeing what happens
We dance a little and then I pull her off the floor and start talkign to her about some shit... I forget what it was.. but it was probably something really lame cause like I was just saying whatever came to my head.. literally.. I was too nervous to do anything else and i knew that if I stopped to think about anything I was gonna get in my head.. so I didn't... but I was still making sure to keep my voice relatively slow and shit... I just wasn't allowing myself to think. I was tryna sorta meditate.. but it's def. not the same in a club lmao.
So we talk for a bit and then some like SUPER SUPER jacked dude comes over and starts whispering in her ear and as he's doing this I grab her waist, pull her in and I'm like, "Do you know this guy" and she's like, "Yeah, I came with him" and in my head I'm like, "Oh..." so he steps back and I introduce myself to him and he tries to ignore me but she looks at him and is like, "He wants to introduce himself to you" so he introduces himself back but then just like leaves... I was slightly confused... but fair enough
But then she's like, "Okay I have to go" and she starts to leave and I pull her back and I'm like, "Hey I gotta leave in like 3 minutes so let me get your number".. grab the # and she lingers for a bit and looking back I totally could have plowed and kept her around but honestly my heart was racing hahaha
It's hilarious cause all of this is like soooo basic when I was drinking but literally after I got her number I was just SO fucking PUMPED lmao, like seriously. I was like a little kid who just scored his first goal in soccer, I was like, "Hell yeah, I got... I got.. A NUMBER" and then I left the venue and went home. hahaha idk this made me laugh at myself.
It's cool though, I told myself I didn't care how much my results went down when I stopped drinking, that I was going to do this and get good at it the RIGHT way, the way that is sustainable and will allow me to balance everything in my life... And I can already sense that this is going to be tough but that I am going to get good at this...
lol another thing I was laughing about was like how attracted she was getting to me, despite the fact that I was literally shaking haha, like in my head I was all, "Wait... this isn't how this is supposed to work"... aren't my emotions supposed to be projecting onto her... but wtvr, I mean even though I was nervous, I was still having a good time and laughing, mainly at my incredible trolling job... but still..
My first sober #... OOOOO YEAHHHH... it's been like 2 or 3 nights so wtvr, it is what it is. Maybe by the end of this challenge I'll get a makeout! haha I'm kidding.. well I mean, sorta.. I mean, I better have at least one makeout by the end of this lmfao.. if I dno't I'll be pretty confused... I bet I'll have one really fucking soon actually.. but if I don't that's cool, I got time. And then... sober sex? ooo but now we're getting ahead of ourselves (If you can't tell, I'm def. making fun of myself right now)
Who else is goin to AA tomorrow? lmao, jokes
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
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The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
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The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
Day 3
Okay so this was previously the "I got a makeout thread" lmao, but I'm home now so gonna throw up the whole report. Just to warn you guys- my reports are going to be VERY detailed from here on out, cause, well, I'm not blacking out lmao. So like I basically remember every fucking detail of each interaction.
Okay so here it goes:
Okay so tonight was alright. I'm really stoked about the makeout lmao, mainly cause I totally called it in my last post.
Anyway- I got a super late start, especially cause it was a Monday and ended up getting to the bar close to 1AM
So I switched one major thing up about my daily routine that I think made a HUGE difference tonight. So I usually do my meditation in the mornings or after I get back, like right before bed but today I did it right before I went out. So like im heading down and I feel relatively calm. I have some nerves but nothing hugely major. I walk outside and just start howling likea coyote lmao and just clapping my hands and boppin to a little song in my head.
I get down to the les and pop my headphones on for the walk there. Get to the bar and head in... I'm feeling okay. Not amazing, just like okay... I got some nerves but no big deal.
I walk in and see little groups of people and head upstairs to check out my dance floor. There's like two girls and one of em is dancing and I walk right up, grab her hand and give er' the ol' "What's up"... No shaking. No nerves... Boys, I'm in the fucking zone. I give her intense eye contact and I know she's hooked. It was a super strong approach. Very happy about it.
She's from Denmark and doesn't speak much English so she's immediately grabbing me and whispering into my ear and I'm just standing there likea rock. Trying to keep solid posture and whatnot.
We chat a bit and I just put my hands out, kinda just like expecting her to grab them. and she does. When I put my hands out I just kept vey solid eye contact and felt VERY relaxed. So she grabs my hands and I give her a little spin and then pull her in and let go and then grab one hand and im just like, "Come with me im gonna get a drink" lol really I just wanted to move her around. So we get to the bar and we start talking... Lmao let me put that differently, SHE starts talking. haha I legit was laughing the whole time cause she wouldn't stop talking. lol like I was laughing out loud so much, cause she just kept rambling about the weirdest things. Like telling me all the places she's been to in the US and a bunch of other stuff lmao I really wasn't listening.
Oh so the whole time im just giving her MONEY eye contact and I can tell she wants to makeout. Like at one point she starts leaning in so her tit is touching my shoulder and she's not moving it. So then at some point during her ramble I just interrupt her and grab her waist and im like come sit down (oh at this point I had moved to a seated position so that she was stnading and talking to me) Also- I never turned towards her... Not sure if I was supposed to or not but I would just look over with my head. But then eventually after a while I grab her waist and am just like, "Come sit down" and guide her over to me but she doesn't sit and just starddles me and so I let her talk some more and keep up the unrelenting eye contact. Then when I feel the moment, I just put my hand on the back of her head and pull in for the makeout- game on.
We make out for a bit and then she pulls away and is just like, "I can't" and I look back with serious eye contact and actually inside I was smiling cause I knew she could and I knew she wanted to and I knew she was just being silly. And so becuase of this I just smiled on the outside and was like, "Okay" and held the eye contact and we continued talking and then a little later I went in again and it was on.
Lmao and this time I pulled back and she tried to get more but I didn't let her. Just smiled and gave eye contact.
Ugh, but where I fucked up was at some point I was like, "I think your sexy" but I knew it wasn't coming from the right place. I was chasing and I knew it and like clockwork she goes, "I guess I just don't feel the same" hahahaha I laughed at this on the inside cause it was just so honest. And again I just smile and I'm like, "okay". And we keep talking and then I go in for the makeout again and it's still on. Lol I was slightly confused but wtvr, fair enough.
I get up and grab her hand and take her to the dance floor and we dance a while. I'm not stifled. I'm gettin down like jsean. No big deal. And then idk, I just get bored and we sit down and talk for a bit and I'm just like, "Okay, I'm gonna go" and I head off into the sunset.
I knew the logistics weren't there for a fuck (she was leaving to go back to denmark on wednesday and I had already gone for the # and she was like... I'm leaving...) and I didn't feel like spending my whole night with her cause I also wanted to get my approaches in.
So I head downstairs and its all groups of girls and guys and in my head I'm just like, "Fuck"
Lol, so eventually, I get my balls together and head up to, what seemed like the least invested of all the girls- but also, the hottest girl in the bar and give her some eye contact a "hey". lol she's just like, "What" and I'm like, "What's up. What's your name" and she's like, "Oh were leaving" and Im just like, "oh okay" .. "Did you have a bad night?"- cause she was just being so dismissing (manwhore textgame in action lmao) and she's like, "No Im having a great night- how about you?" and I'm like, "It's been good. Pretty fun" and then, like a true chode I asked her name again and this time she told me and then got up and left. LMFAO hahhaa seriously. But I gotta give her a tip of the hat. She was very polite about it all.
So then I walk out to the street and it was totally dead so I'm thinking, "Fuck I gotta find something" and so I just walk around for a while and there are NO girls out... like ZERO. a
But eventually I spot two girls just hangin out and go up and do a fucking situational opener... It was really fucking weak. Not happy about this. It's just so fucking pussy lmao.
They are friendly though and I'm kinda tired so we chat for a bit, I get there names and bounce. It was an okay night. One very solid set and two pretty lame ones but hell im doin it so all is good and like jesus I can remember everything and just writing it up I learn so much, it's great.
So yeah, tonight was awesome because I had a little anxiety but like the second I grabbed the first girls hand it COMPLETELY dissapeared and I just had that like rock solid feeling in my chest that is just very calm and I could feel my breathing and the eye contact was there... I felt VERY calm. It was great. But it's also good to know that I don't need this feeling to approach. Either way- I was gonna get it done.
Another thing I noticed is that when I see dudes with super hot chicks I don't get jealous at all lmao, in fact, the first thing that pops into my head is, "That's cool... in a little while that's gonna be me.. can't wait" Like idk guys, It's just like not even a question in my mind... I'm gonna be fucking some REALLY REALLY HOT girls in my future : )
Oh also- so groups of girls and guys are tough for me to approach... also- It's funny cause I'm pretty hard on myself, but at the same time, I recognize this and do a solid job reassuring myself, that it's okay that I didn't get the fuck on my like 3rd night of my challenge LMFAO... seriously, one of the first thoughts in my head was like, "Damn, I didn't have sex" I just have very high expectations for myself, but it's cool, I realize that they are there and I also realize that I'm putting in the work and I'm REALLY REALLY fucking happy with myself about that and proud of myself for that.
Also- there's something really cool about doing it all sober and alone. kinda feel like a badass, like I just go in- snipe my girl and walk off into the sunste. This is going to make me a man, folks. Mark my words.
So some thoughts on the weak approach I did:
A couple things.
1. I should have Gone in MUCH stronger. I waivered in my approach. I didn't have SUPER strong eye contact, I kinda mumbled what I said, thus her saying, "what?" (I just realized I forgot to put this in my initial report, which is a HUGE thing to leave out, as it shows that my approach was weak.. but yeah, she said, 'what', to my initial approach and i had to basically re-do it), what I did say, I said in a seeking rapport vocal tonality with a slightly high pitched voice (I'm not saying I sounded like weird or that it was SUPER noticable but it was there)
So that's what I can think of, as far as the approach is concerned. I actually think I handled her not giving me her name at first pretty well but from that point it was certainly going to be an uphill battle.
2. Instead of asking her name again, I should have just started spurting verbals out of my ass. Fuck asking for the girls name, even in the first place. I'm going to stop this. It's too tryhard, I don't need to know their name and I only ask because it gives me time to relax, which gives me some short term relief but in the longterm is something I want to get rid of.
3. I let her get away too easy because there were dudes in the set, I should have turned around and started talking to the group after introducing myself to her. I should have engaged everyone after that point. Like it's great to communicate interest, but I just didn't plow that hard. I was sorta in this headspace of, "I want to get my approach in and I don't care what happens after" which is self-defeating.
Asking the name TWO TIMES... Well that's just too chode, even for sober/solo BG lmao. It's just so fuckin try hard. It's like, give me value give me value give me value... give me something... it's a totally selfish way to go about the interaction... rather, it's more selfless and more authentic for me to just go in and begin by giving value and then if she wants to know my name or tell me hers she can do either if she likes but I don't NEED her name. So I don't NEED to ask. I don't NEED her value, in a sense.
A lot of this can be viewed from the outter game aspect, which is what I just did (and I'm sure there is a lot more if I had an instructor there watching me) but additionally, it can be viewed from the internal game side of things and from that side, I was just sucking value and not willing to give anything in exchange... That's why I think the, "Did you have a bad night" was actually fairly good, because it shows some empthathy... it shows a willingness to give value.
Okay so this was previously the "I got a makeout thread" lmao, but I'm home now so gonna throw up the whole report. Just to warn you guys- my reports are going to be VERY detailed from here on out, cause, well, I'm not blacking out lmao. So like I basically remember every fucking detail of each interaction.
Okay so here it goes:
Okay so tonight was alright. I'm really stoked about the makeout lmao, mainly cause I totally called it in my last post.
Anyway- I got a super late start, especially cause it was a Monday and ended up getting to the bar close to 1AM
So I switched one major thing up about my daily routine that I think made a HUGE difference tonight. So I usually do my meditation in the mornings or after I get back, like right before bed but today I did it right before I went out. So like im heading down and I feel relatively calm. I have some nerves but nothing hugely major. I walk outside and just start howling likea coyote lmao and just clapping my hands and boppin to a little song in my head.
I get down to the les and pop my headphones on for the walk there. Get to the bar and head in... I'm feeling okay. Not amazing, just like okay... I got some nerves but no big deal.
I walk in and see little groups of people and head upstairs to check out my dance floor. There's like two girls and one of em is dancing and I walk right up, grab her hand and give er' the ol' "What's up"... No shaking. No nerves... Boys, I'm in the fucking zone. I give her intense eye contact and I know she's hooked. It was a super strong approach. Very happy about it.
She's from Denmark and doesn't speak much English so she's immediately grabbing me and whispering into my ear and I'm just standing there likea rock. Trying to keep solid posture and whatnot.
We chat a bit and I just put my hands out, kinda just like expecting her to grab them. and she does. When I put my hands out I just kept vey solid eye contact and felt VERY relaxed. So she grabs my hands and I give her a little spin and then pull her in and let go and then grab one hand and im just like, "Come with me im gonna get a drink" lol really I just wanted to move her around. So we get to the bar and we start talking... Lmao let me put that differently, SHE starts talking. haha I legit was laughing the whole time cause she wouldn't stop talking. lol like I was laughing out loud so much, cause she just kept rambling about the weirdest things. Like telling me all the places she's been to in the US and a bunch of other stuff lmao I really wasn't listening.
Oh so the whole time im just giving her MONEY eye contact and I can tell she wants to makeout. Like at one point she starts leaning in so her tit is touching my shoulder and she's not moving it. So then at some point during her ramble I just interrupt her and grab her waist and im like come sit down (oh at this point I had moved to a seated position so that she was stnading and talking to me) Also- I never turned towards her... Not sure if I was supposed to or not but I would just look over with my head. But then eventually after a while I grab her waist and am just like, "Come sit down" and guide her over to me but she doesn't sit and just starddles me and so I let her talk some more and keep up the unrelenting eye contact. Then when I feel the moment, I just put my hand on the back of her head and pull in for the makeout- game on.
We make out for a bit and then she pulls away and is just like, "I can't" and I look back with serious eye contact and actually inside I was smiling cause I knew she could and I knew she wanted to and I knew she was just being silly. And so becuase of this I just smiled on the outside and was like, "Okay" and held the eye contact and we continued talking and then a little later I went in again and it was on.
Lmao and this time I pulled back and she tried to get more but I didn't let her. Just smiled and gave eye contact.
Ugh, but where I fucked up was at some point I was like, "I think your sexy" but I knew it wasn't coming from the right place. I was chasing and I knew it and like clockwork she goes, "I guess I just don't feel the same" hahahaha I laughed at this on the inside cause it was just so honest. And again I just smile and I'm like, "okay". And we keep talking and then I go in for the makeout again and it's still on. Lol I was slightly confused but wtvr, fair enough.
I get up and grab her hand and take her to the dance floor and we dance a while. I'm not stifled. I'm gettin down like jsean. No big deal. And then idk, I just get bored and we sit down and talk for a bit and I'm just like, "Okay, I'm gonna go" and I head off into the sunset.
I knew the logistics weren't there for a fuck (she was leaving to go back to denmark on wednesday and I had already gone for the # and she was like... I'm leaving...) and I didn't feel like spending my whole night with her cause I also wanted to get my approaches in.
So I head downstairs and its all groups of girls and guys and in my head I'm just like, "Fuck"
Lol, so eventually, I get my balls together and head up to, what seemed like the least invested of all the girls- but also, the hottest girl in the bar and give her some eye contact a "hey". lol she's just like, "What" and I'm like, "What's up. What's your name" and she's like, "Oh were leaving" and Im just like, "oh okay" .. "Did you have a bad night?"- cause she was just being so dismissing (manwhore textgame in action lmao) and she's like, "No Im having a great night- how about you?" and I'm like, "It's been good. Pretty fun" and then, like a true chode I asked her name again and this time she told me and then got up and left. LMFAO hahhaa seriously. But I gotta give her a tip of the hat. She was very polite about it all.
So then I walk out to the street and it was totally dead so I'm thinking, "Fuck I gotta find something" and so I just walk around for a while and there are NO girls out... like ZERO. a
But eventually I spot two girls just hangin out and go up and do a fucking situational opener... It was really fucking weak. Not happy about this. It's just so fucking pussy lmao.
They are friendly though and I'm kinda tired so we chat for a bit, I get there names and bounce. It was an okay night. One very solid set and two pretty lame ones but hell im doin it so all is good and like jesus I can remember everything and just writing it up I learn so much, it's great.
So yeah, tonight was awesome because I had a little anxiety but like the second I grabbed the first girls hand it COMPLETELY dissapeared and I just had that like rock solid feeling in my chest that is just very calm and I could feel my breathing and the eye contact was there... I felt VERY calm. It was great. But it's also good to know that I don't need this feeling to approach. Either way- I was gonna get it done.
Another thing I noticed is that when I see dudes with super hot chicks I don't get jealous at all lmao, in fact, the first thing that pops into my head is, "That's cool... in a little while that's gonna be me.. can't wait" Like idk guys, It's just like not even a question in my mind... I'm gonna be fucking some REALLY REALLY HOT girls in my future : )
Oh also- so groups of girls and guys are tough for me to approach... also- It's funny cause I'm pretty hard on myself, but at the same time, I recognize this and do a solid job reassuring myself, that it's okay that I didn't get the fuck on my like 3rd night of my challenge LMFAO... seriously, one of the first thoughts in my head was like, "Damn, I didn't have sex" I just have very high expectations for myself, but it's cool, I realize that they are there and I also realize that I'm putting in the work and I'm REALLY REALLY fucking happy with myself about that and proud of myself for that.
Also- there's something really cool about doing it all sober and alone. kinda feel like a badass, like I just go in- snipe my girl and walk off into the sunste. This is going to make me a man, folks. Mark my words.
So some thoughts on the weak approach I did:
A couple things.
1. I should have Gone in MUCH stronger. I waivered in my approach. I didn't have SUPER strong eye contact, I kinda mumbled what I said, thus her saying, "what?" (I just realized I forgot to put this in my initial report, which is a HUGE thing to leave out, as it shows that my approach was weak.. but yeah, she said, 'what', to my initial approach and i had to basically re-do it), what I did say, I said in a seeking rapport vocal tonality with a slightly high pitched voice (I'm not saying I sounded like weird or that it was SUPER noticable but it was there)
So that's what I can think of, as far as the approach is concerned. I actually think I handled her not giving me her name at first pretty well but from that point it was certainly going to be an uphill battle.
2. Instead of asking her name again, I should have just started spurting verbals out of my ass. Fuck asking for the girls name, even in the first place. I'm going to stop this. It's too tryhard, I don't need to know their name and I only ask because it gives me time to relax, which gives me some short term relief but in the longterm is something I want to get rid of.
3. I let her get away too easy because there were dudes in the set, I should have turned around and started talking to the group after introducing myself to her. I should have engaged everyone after that point. Like it's great to communicate interest, but I just didn't plow that hard. I was sorta in this headspace of, "I want to get my approach in and I don't care what happens after" which is self-defeating.
Asking the name TWO TIMES... Well that's just too chode, even for sober/solo BG lmao. It's just so fuckin try hard. It's like, give me value give me value give me value... give me something... it's a totally selfish way to go about the interaction... rather, it's more selfless and more authentic for me to just go in and begin by giving value and then if she wants to know my name or tell me hers she can do either if she likes but I don't NEED her name. So I don't NEED to ask. I don't NEED her value, in a sense.
A lot of this can be viewed from the outter game aspect, which is what I just did (and I'm sure there is a lot more if I had an instructor there watching me) but additionally, it can be viewed from the internal game side of things and from that side, I was just sucking value and not willing to give anything in exchange... That's why I think the, "Did you have a bad night" was actually fairly good, because it shows some empthathy... it shows a willingness to give value.
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
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The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
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The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
Day 4
Okay, so this is a super long field report and they will continue to be this long probably. But I promise you that there is a FUCKTON of value in this. If you read it, you will see stuff that will help you. I put in more detail in my field reports than almost any other thread I've ever read and I do it because it helps me but also because it's gonna help you guys.
lmao- it took me like an hour and a half to write this. But it's worth it because I learn a lot from this.
So tonight was pretty good. Best night so far, by a long shot. I had 2 solid interactions and 1 interaction that could have gone a lot further but I'll go into that later.
Ended up with 2 VERY VERY solid numbers. Looks like I'm going to the fucking shooting range, baby. I'm actually really pumped to go, whether or not either of these girls comes with me. I just want to shoot a fucking gun (dude manwhore, you have inspired me. But unlike you I don't like pigeons shitting on me, so I'm gonna hit up some targets)
Okay so here it is:
Tonight was really really fucking awesome. I did all of my approaches and they were all strong approaches that I was very happy with. First approach, I did that claw thing which was cool. It was my first time doing it sober though so like it was slightly weak but I still had good eye contact and spoke loud enough, the only part of it that was weak was the actual claw grip but I know next time I do it, Ill be MUCH more confident with it. Zero question. Even with it being weak, the girl responded decently. At first she was unsure and hesistantly gave me her name (result of the weak claw) but then she looks at me and immediately upon seeing the eye contact starts to ask me questions. Lmao also- I totally just realized that I peacock when I go out. It's a very mild peacock but a peacock just the same. I wear this little necklace I got in the DR and like two separate girls made a point to ask me about it. Anyway, so yeah, she asks me about the necklace and she's like, "It's very Cali.. WAIT are you a Cali boy?!" and I'm like, "Yeah" and she gives me this intense like smile thing. So we keep talking a bit but she was a little drunk and being kinda spacey (It's my responsibility to take care of this and MAKE her want to pay attention though, so no excuses) Anyway- she kept like waving to someone at one of the tables the whole time but I just ignored it and kept plowing... She gets kind of disinterested and ends up going away with the dude who I assume she was waving at. It was just a little warmup though so its all good.
The lesson learned was to go in fucking STRONG with the claw or don't go in at all.
Okay so I go and order a water and a pbr (I'm going to stop doing this and just tip for my waters.) My dance floor is fucking popppin off the hook so I walk onto it and I just feel very calm. It's like I have space in my head to just look around and relax and survey the scene.
So I am actually just standing in the middle of all of this action, kinda a polarizing figure in contrast to everyone else lmao, but I'm relaxed so it's not weird, I'm just like not doing what everyone else is doing.
I see a girl in front of me and just go, "Hey" but she's like fucking HAMMERED and I can't even understand her response, so I just stand there and for shits keep asking, "What".. ."what"... "What" until she goes away lmao, god, being sober and seeing some of these drunk people, it's like WOW- you guys look retarded (I don't even want to know what I looked like)
So then I see a group of three people. Two girls and a dude but the dude is sitting down and the girls are standing up so I go up and say, "hey" to one of the girls and she EXPLODES open... haha like she's all, "HEYYYY HOW ARE YOU?!" and In my head im just like, "woh"... lmao, so I just kinda roll with it and I'm like, "good, what's up" and she just looks at me and I give solid eye contact back and before she says anything, I'm just like, "Yes, we don't know eachother" and she kinda freaks out (in a good way) and like goes and grabs her friend and I don't move. I just kinda stand there and in my head I'm like, "uhh... I don't know what's going on" but then she comes back and I'm like, "Did you think you knew me" and she's like, "YEAH" and I'm like, "huh, what's his name" and she's like, "idk... I went to school with him" and I'm like, "Whered you go to school?" and she's like, "xxx" and I'm like, "Uhh, you def. do know me somehow.. cause that's where I went to school" and then she's like, "Your in xxx fraternity, yeah?" and I'm like, "Yup.. it's me"... so she keeps freaking out a bit and like keeps saying how great it is that we met blah blah... Lmao, turns out that she dated my big in the fraternity... But he is a HUGE DOUCHE and I really DONT like him... so she's totally fair game. He never hung out with me and would always promise to go to dinner with me or like hit up a knicks game and would never follow through- so fuck him. As payback- I'm gonna fuck his ex. BITCH haha
Oh I want to just put it out there that my interactions are starting to go way too long to remember all of it, so I'll just being give as much detail as I can muster. I just can't remember ALL the verbals AND all the physical/mental stuff... but I'll do my best to give as much as I can
Anyway- So we get to talking and like I do this thing where I just stand EXACTLY where I am with very good posture and almost a slight leanback and I don't fucking BUDGE and the girls just totally eat it up (probably without realizing it) and end up leaning super far in to talk to me and like grabbing me to pull me closer... also, while doing this I give really fucking good eye contact. Oh so then at one point I get the, "So who are you here with" and I'm just like, "nobody" and she's like, "wait so you're just here alone?" and I fucking caved and lied man... FUCK... I'm not mad that I'm lied... I'm dissapointed that I felt the need to prove myself to her, that I didn't feel secure enough in what I was doing to just tell the truth... But wtvr, it's all good. So I lie and tell her I'm meeting up with a friend in a bit... up until that though she was giving me a ton of shit for being a creep etc... but it was funny cause I just didn't react at all, my only reaction to her shit tests was more and more eye contact and an absolutely straight face. lmao, it was funny cause right after she was like, "Your a creep" and I was like, "Yeah, I'm a creep, but I'm awesome, so it's okay" and she's like, "No your a creep" and then I didn't say anything and just gave her eye contact and then literally like 5 seconds later she's like, "Okay, wait, let me go tell my friend you're not a creep or anything" and In my head I just pictured a really funny meme of the situation. Anyway- we talk for a bit more and then she says she has to go to the bathroom//get a drink so she goes off
Oh- also, as soon as the girl I was talking to left, her friend comes up to me and grabs my hand and like spins around me. and so I start dancin with her a little but she's pretty drunk so I'm not that into it lmao... But like we start dancing and I'm spinning her around and shit and jammin to the song (the DJ at this bar fucking KILLLLLLS IT EVERY NIGHT... I love this guy) and then I pull her in and she gets all up in my ear and is like, "How do you xxxgirl?" and I'm like, "Apparently she knew me from school but I don't really know her" and she's like, "Oh so you guys aren't like bffs?" and I laugh and I'm like, "Nooo" and she starts grinding on me.
I'm really not that into it though so I'm not making a move (if I had, it would have DEF. been on... and I'm not just saying this.. she was DEF. into me lmao, like you just gotta trust me on this one) so I am just like standing there while she's dancing around me like a fucking jackrabbit, grindin on me like im a pole, spinnin around me and I don't really move at all, lmao, then she probably realized I wasn't feeling it or just got bored//add cause she's drunk and so she left and went back to her other friends
So I walk back towards the bar and grab another water (it's been probably like 20 minutes or so at this point.. mabye 15) and I'm in the zone at this point. I'm talkin to the dudes standing next to me and singing the words to the song and like throwin my hands in the air... all the shit I used to do drunk, except now I'm sober so I don't look/sound like a retard ; ) ..
As I'm doing this, the other girl comes back to the bar and stands next to me and I put my arm around her and rub her hair a little bit in that sorta dominant, playful way and I'm like, "I'm gettin a water" and she's like, "It's SOO good to see you" (or something like that) and like leans into my arm. I tell her to stay with me while I get my water but she tells me just to meet her back with her friends, and I'm like, "k cool" and give her that good ol' fashioned eye contact. She heads back to her spot and I decide that I don't want to head straight there so I look around for some girls to approach.
Anyway- I look behind me and see some dude dancing with a chick and I literally just grab her and start dancing with her and she starts dancing with me and I turn around and start like shoving my but into her vag and just messin around and she's diggin it and like a couple people around us are laughing and like watching us and this girl comes up to try and dance with me more but It's been long enough so I decide to head back to the first girl's table and chill with her for a bit. They are all getting drunk and dancing and so I'm right there, jammin out.. fully unstifled... fully in the zone.. fully rockin out. The girl is kinda ignoring me and I didn't play this well- I tried WAY TOO HARD to get her attention. Not in like a super weird, obvious way, but I was just sorta standing next to her... like doing my own thing and dancing and having fun but I was giving her WAY TOO MUCH leeway to not talk to me and ignore me... I was letting her gain the buyer frame... it was subtle, but it was def. happening.
As a solution to this- I should have just gone over and grabbed her friend who was into me and started dancing with her again.. this would have solved the ENTIRE issue. Like literally, this would have been the PERFECT solution. But I didn't do it- next time.
Anyway- so she talks to me a bit but really is ignoring me (because I'm letting her)... Like I grab her attention a few times and we're jokin around and stuff and I'm playfully teasing her but I the point is that I was TRYING to get her attention, the only way to have flipped this dynamic was to go over and dance with her friend. Cause she would have 1. seen that I didn't care and 2. She would have seen how into me her friend was and then all I would have had to do is let jealousy plotlines ensue... BAM... next time
So I decide I want to go and approach more girls, so I go for the # and she gives it to me... a little hesitantly (She was def. weirded out a little cause she used to date my big)
2 things with regards to this: 1. I didn't separate myself enough from my big for her to see me as something completely distinct
2. I gave her the buyer frame by not going and dancing with her friend so she felt entitled to that frame and acted accordingly
So I get her # and peace (oh- I told her I was leaving the venue... ugh... seriously I gotta stop with these stupid lies... they are dumb and unnecessary and actually this one comes back to bite me in my next interaction)
Okay, so I'm heading downstairs and I see this girl taking a picture of a dude and another girl and right as she's taking the photo I pop up in the background and do a pretty awesome photobomb and after she takes it, I give her eye contact and I'm like, "How'd the photobomb go... did I get in it?" and she laughs and is like, "You'r great smile is in it" and I go up and start talking to her... she's hooked (anime eyes, FOR SURE) everything I say she's just like, "OMG THAT'S AMAZING" blah blah blah ... (She wasn't that hot at all, I actually only approached because I wanted to talk to her friend... That's another issue with this approach, I didn't act through my intent and as a result I was left with the one I didn't want)
Anyway- she brings up the, "Who are you here with?" question and this time, I'm just like, "I'm here by myself" and she's like, "What?" and I'm like, "Yeah I just moved here and I love going out and meeting people" and she's like, "That's great" and then is like, "That's my friend xxx" and points to the girl I'm interested in (I think soemhow she knew taht's what I wanted lmao, I feel kinda bad... I think she just didn't feel that she was good enough for me.. maybe not, but that's my hunch) and I'm like, "Oh awesome, introduce me" and so she pulls her friend away from some dude and is ilke, "Hannah! This is BG!!!" and her friend opens RIGHT UP and is super pumped to meet me...
Then she's like, "How do you guys know each other" and the girl is like, "We just met, he just moved here" and she's laughing kinda nervously cause she knows that this is socially weird but at the same time she knows I'm awesome so it's like a tug of war... but the other girl is like, "Whaa" lmao, I forget how not normal it is to be doing what I'm doing...
But anyway- we keep talking for a bit.. oh- the girl I'm interested starts asking me about my necklace and again thinks it's SO AWESOME that I'm a "Cali boy"... idk what it is with girls and "cali boys" haha I think it's just an excuse that they can be like, "Ohhh THAT'S why he's cool) like it's something that they can make sense of...
Anyway- the girl I initially was talking to is like, 'Hey let's go to the dancefloor and is like, "Come with us BG" and I'm like, "uhh okay" and then as we get closer, I see that first girl there and I look at the girl I'm with and I'm like, "I don't wanna walk over there" and she's like, "Why" and I'm like, "I don't wanna say" and she's like, "NO... TELL ME" and I'm like, "No..." and she's like, "well okay, we're gonna go then" and I'm like, "okay.." and give her real solid eye contact and just like clockwork she's like, "No seriously, please tell me, I want to know" and I'm just like, "uh okay... I don't want to see someone over there" and she's like, "Oh so you know someone over there?" and I'm like, "yeah" and she kinda looks at me all upset and her other friend is pulling her away and she's just like, "okay" and walks away
Ugh, this was so dumb lmao... 1. I shouldn't have told the first girl I was leaving and 2. I shouldn't have given a flying fuck that I did say that and should have gone to the dancefloor with these girls anyway... like DURRR
Okay so after this, I head downstairs and I walk up to the bar to grab another water and I see two girls sitting down (hottest girls of the night) and I put my arm on the one closer to me's shoulder and I'm like, "Hey" and she kinda turns around a little startled and her friend tries to critique my approach and is like, "You can't touch her" and I just look at her and kinda smile and I do my standard, "okay" with GREAT eye contact... and then she literally just does a fucking 180 and is like, "But isn't she a BABE?" and I'm like, "OOOO should I have just come up and been like, 'HEY BABBBBBEEEEE how are you?!" in like a sarcastic//girly voice and they both start laughing and then the girl who intially called me out is like, "She is a babe, but you can't call her babe" and I'm like, "Okay" ... and then give the eye contact and then I'm like, "Well now you're just getting ahead of yourself, that doesn't come till later" and they both laugh and the shit tests are over... I PASSSSSED!! YAY!!! lmfao! jokes... But seriously
So I'm like, "I'm gonna grab this seat and I sit right between both of them so it's the one girl on my left, the other girl on my right" and I order my water...
They ask me the usual chode questions... turns out they are from cali and the convo s goin realll well... Like it's at that point where they are BOTH like really into me... like I'll say something and they BOTH will be like "What" and like both lean in super close to me to hear. But I started giving more attention to one of them and so the other one just sorta accepted her role and started being like, "OMG xxxgirl is AWESOMe... like she's the coolest... like if you want to meet someone she's such a great girl to meet"
Oh and then at one point we're talking and she's telling me about her job and like she's in sales and when she says this she says it in a super weird voice, so I rip on her for that but in a SUPER SUPER funny way and they are both like dieing of laughter. Convo continues (this one was REALLY long so I jjust don't remember much of the verbals) but yeah, I'm just sittin there and I feel very SOLID and like the other girl just keeps telling me how awesome her friend is and then at one point I'm like, "You guys are SO BEST FRIENDS" in like a girly voice and they start crackin up and I'm just like, "OMG BEST FRIENDS" and they are lovin it... but for the most part I'm just being a very solid dude, so this little bouts of playful humor come off funny and not like a clown... At one point, I tell the one girl to give me her # and she does... and I'm like, "have you ever shot a gun?" and she's like, "no but OMG I REALLY want to" and I'm like, "Yeah, I'm gonna take you to a shooting range" and she's like, "OMG that'd be AWESOME" so I'm like, "let's do it this weekend" and she's like, "Yeah text me this week so we can set it up".. very solid...
So we keep talking for a bit and like I'm just making them laugh at occasional points but other than that just being very solid... like nothing flashy... part of the issue is that I know I had attraction but I never got that like SUPER attraction so I never felt the moment was right to do a makeout or wtvr... and honestly, I just think this was a very "solid" interaction and could easily result in a day2 fuck... but also these girls were pretty hot and so they weren't going to be all "Lushy" and shit... they were mature, hot girls... High Quality.
So then after a bit I'm like, "Hey xxxgirl, sorry to break up all this awesomeness but it's getting late, I gotta head out" and she's like, "Okay" so I get up, give her a kiss on the cheek, give her friend a kiss on the cheek and peace out
-Pretty solid night. I think both #'s are solid. The first one may take a little more "game" than the second one.. but who knows... maybe they both will flake, maybe they both will be easy... who knows
But damn guys, this is getting easier and easier every time. And tonight I had SO MUCH FUN... I was just totally unstifled and doing what I wanted. Like I just felt great and was having a blast.
Okay, so this is a super long field report and they will continue to be this long probably. But I promise you that there is a FUCKTON of value in this. If you read it, you will see stuff that will help you. I put in more detail in my field reports than almost any other thread I've ever read and I do it because it helps me but also because it's gonna help you guys.
lmao- it took me like an hour and a half to write this. But it's worth it because I learn a lot from this.
So tonight was pretty good. Best night so far, by a long shot. I had 2 solid interactions and 1 interaction that could have gone a lot further but I'll go into that later.
Ended up with 2 VERY VERY solid numbers. Looks like I'm going to the fucking shooting range, baby. I'm actually really pumped to go, whether or not either of these girls comes with me. I just want to shoot a fucking gun (dude manwhore, you have inspired me. But unlike you I don't like pigeons shitting on me, so I'm gonna hit up some targets)
Okay so here it is:
Tonight was really really fucking awesome. I did all of my approaches and they were all strong approaches that I was very happy with. First approach, I did that claw thing which was cool. It was my first time doing it sober though so like it was slightly weak but I still had good eye contact and spoke loud enough, the only part of it that was weak was the actual claw grip but I know next time I do it, Ill be MUCH more confident with it. Zero question. Even with it being weak, the girl responded decently. At first she was unsure and hesistantly gave me her name (result of the weak claw) but then she looks at me and immediately upon seeing the eye contact starts to ask me questions. Lmao also- I totally just realized that I peacock when I go out. It's a very mild peacock but a peacock just the same. I wear this little necklace I got in the DR and like two separate girls made a point to ask me about it. Anyway, so yeah, she asks me about the necklace and she's like, "It's very Cali.. WAIT are you a Cali boy?!" and I'm like, "Yeah" and she gives me this intense like smile thing. So we keep talking a bit but she was a little drunk and being kinda spacey (It's my responsibility to take care of this and MAKE her want to pay attention though, so no excuses) Anyway- she kept like waving to someone at one of the tables the whole time but I just ignored it and kept plowing... She gets kind of disinterested and ends up going away with the dude who I assume she was waving at. It was just a little warmup though so its all good.
The lesson learned was to go in fucking STRONG with the claw or don't go in at all.
Okay so I go and order a water and a pbr (I'm going to stop doing this and just tip for my waters.) My dance floor is fucking popppin off the hook so I walk onto it and I just feel very calm. It's like I have space in my head to just look around and relax and survey the scene.
So I am actually just standing in the middle of all of this action, kinda a polarizing figure in contrast to everyone else lmao, but I'm relaxed so it's not weird, I'm just like not doing what everyone else is doing.
I see a girl in front of me and just go, "Hey" but she's like fucking HAMMERED and I can't even understand her response, so I just stand there and for shits keep asking, "What".. ."what"... "What" until she goes away lmao, god, being sober and seeing some of these drunk people, it's like WOW- you guys look retarded (I don't even want to know what I looked like)
So then I see a group of three people. Two girls and a dude but the dude is sitting down and the girls are standing up so I go up and say, "hey" to one of the girls and she EXPLODES open... haha like she's all, "HEYYYY HOW ARE YOU?!" and In my head im just like, "woh"... lmao, so I just kinda roll with it and I'm like, "good, what's up" and she just looks at me and I give solid eye contact back and before she says anything, I'm just like, "Yes, we don't know eachother" and she kinda freaks out (in a good way) and like goes and grabs her friend and I don't move. I just kinda stand there and in my head I'm like, "uhh... I don't know what's going on" but then she comes back and I'm like, "Did you think you knew me" and she's like, "YEAH" and I'm like, "huh, what's his name" and she's like, "idk... I went to school with him" and I'm like, "Whered you go to school?" and she's like, "xxx" and I'm like, "Uhh, you def. do know me somehow.. cause that's where I went to school" and then she's like, "Your in xxx fraternity, yeah?" and I'm like, "Yup.. it's me"... so she keeps freaking out a bit and like keeps saying how great it is that we met blah blah... Lmao, turns out that she dated my big in the fraternity... But he is a HUGE DOUCHE and I really DONT like him... so she's totally fair game. He never hung out with me and would always promise to go to dinner with me or like hit up a knicks game and would never follow through- so fuck him. As payback- I'm gonna fuck his ex. BITCH haha
Oh I want to just put it out there that my interactions are starting to go way too long to remember all of it, so I'll just being give as much detail as I can muster. I just can't remember ALL the verbals AND all the physical/mental stuff... but I'll do my best to give as much as I can
Anyway- So we get to talking and like I do this thing where I just stand EXACTLY where I am with very good posture and almost a slight leanback and I don't fucking BUDGE and the girls just totally eat it up (probably without realizing it) and end up leaning super far in to talk to me and like grabbing me to pull me closer... also, while doing this I give really fucking good eye contact. Oh so then at one point I get the, "So who are you here with" and I'm just like, "nobody" and she's like, "wait so you're just here alone?" and I fucking caved and lied man... FUCK... I'm not mad that I'm lied... I'm dissapointed that I felt the need to prove myself to her, that I didn't feel secure enough in what I was doing to just tell the truth... But wtvr, it's all good. So I lie and tell her I'm meeting up with a friend in a bit... up until that though she was giving me a ton of shit for being a creep etc... but it was funny cause I just didn't react at all, my only reaction to her shit tests was more and more eye contact and an absolutely straight face. lmao, it was funny cause right after she was like, "Your a creep" and I was like, "Yeah, I'm a creep, but I'm awesome, so it's okay" and she's like, "No your a creep" and then I didn't say anything and just gave her eye contact and then literally like 5 seconds later she's like, "Okay, wait, let me go tell my friend you're not a creep or anything" and In my head I just pictured a really funny meme of the situation. Anyway- we talk for a bit more and then she says she has to go to the bathroom//get a drink so she goes off
Oh- also, as soon as the girl I was talking to left, her friend comes up to me and grabs my hand and like spins around me. and so I start dancin with her a little but she's pretty drunk so I'm not that into it lmao... But like we start dancing and I'm spinning her around and shit and jammin to the song (the DJ at this bar fucking KILLLLLLS IT EVERY NIGHT... I love this guy) and then I pull her in and she gets all up in my ear and is like, "How do you xxxgirl?" and I'm like, "Apparently she knew me from school but I don't really know her" and she's like, "Oh so you guys aren't like bffs?" and I laugh and I'm like, "Nooo" and she starts grinding on me.
I'm really not that into it though so I'm not making a move (if I had, it would have DEF. been on... and I'm not just saying this.. she was DEF. into me lmao, like you just gotta trust me on this one) so I am just like standing there while she's dancing around me like a fucking jackrabbit, grindin on me like im a pole, spinnin around me and I don't really move at all, lmao, then she probably realized I wasn't feeling it or just got bored//add cause she's drunk and so she left and went back to her other friends
So I walk back towards the bar and grab another water (it's been probably like 20 minutes or so at this point.. mabye 15) and I'm in the zone at this point. I'm talkin to the dudes standing next to me and singing the words to the song and like throwin my hands in the air... all the shit I used to do drunk, except now I'm sober so I don't look/sound like a retard ; ) ..
As I'm doing this, the other girl comes back to the bar and stands next to me and I put my arm around her and rub her hair a little bit in that sorta dominant, playful way and I'm like, "I'm gettin a water" and she's like, "It's SOO good to see you" (or something like that) and like leans into my arm. I tell her to stay with me while I get my water but she tells me just to meet her back with her friends, and I'm like, "k cool" and give her that good ol' fashioned eye contact. She heads back to her spot and I decide that I don't want to head straight there so I look around for some girls to approach.
Anyway- I look behind me and see some dude dancing with a chick and I literally just grab her and start dancing with her and she starts dancing with me and I turn around and start like shoving my but into her vag and just messin around and she's diggin it and like a couple people around us are laughing and like watching us and this girl comes up to try and dance with me more but It's been long enough so I decide to head back to the first girl's table and chill with her for a bit. They are all getting drunk and dancing and so I'm right there, jammin out.. fully unstifled... fully in the zone.. fully rockin out. The girl is kinda ignoring me and I didn't play this well- I tried WAY TOO HARD to get her attention. Not in like a super weird, obvious way, but I was just sorta standing next to her... like doing my own thing and dancing and having fun but I was giving her WAY TOO MUCH leeway to not talk to me and ignore me... I was letting her gain the buyer frame... it was subtle, but it was def. happening.
As a solution to this- I should have just gone over and grabbed her friend who was into me and started dancing with her again.. this would have solved the ENTIRE issue. Like literally, this would have been the PERFECT solution. But I didn't do it- next time.
Anyway- so she talks to me a bit but really is ignoring me (because I'm letting her)... Like I grab her attention a few times and we're jokin around and stuff and I'm playfully teasing her but I the point is that I was TRYING to get her attention, the only way to have flipped this dynamic was to go over and dance with her friend. Cause she would have 1. seen that I didn't care and 2. She would have seen how into me her friend was and then all I would have had to do is let jealousy plotlines ensue... BAM... next time
So I decide I want to go and approach more girls, so I go for the # and she gives it to me... a little hesitantly (She was def. weirded out a little cause she used to date my big)
2 things with regards to this: 1. I didn't separate myself enough from my big for her to see me as something completely distinct
2. I gave her the buyer frame by not going and dancing with her friend so she felt entitled to that frame and acted accordingly
So I get her # and peace (oh- I told her I was leaving the venue... ugh... seriously I gotta stop with these stupid lies... they are dumb and unnecessary and actually this one comes back to bite me in my next interaction)
Okay, so I'm heading downstairs and I see this girl taking a picture of a dude and another girl and right as she's taking the photo I pop up in the background and do a pretty awesome photobomb and after she takes it, I give her eye contact and I'm like, "How'd the photobomb go... did I get in it?" and she laughs and is like, "You'r great smile is in it" and I go up and start talking to her... she's hooked (anime eyes, FOR SURE) everything I say she's just like, "OMG THAT'S AMAZING" blah blah blah ... (She wasn't that hot at all, I actually only approached because I wanted to talk to her friend... That's another issue with this approach, I didn't act through my intent and as a result I was left with the one I didn't want)
Anyway- she brings up the, "Who are you here with?" question and this time, I'm just like, "I'm here by myself" and she's like, "What?" and I'm like, "Yeah I just moved here and I love going out and meeting people" and she's like, "That's great" and then is like, "That's my friend xxx" and points to the girl I'm interested in (I think soemhow she knew taht's what I wanted lmao, I feel kinda bad... I think she just didn't feel that she was good enough for me.. maybe not, but that's my hunch) and I'm like, "Oh awesome, introduce me" and so she pulls her friend away from some dude and is ilke, "Hannah! This is BG!!!" and her friend opens RIGHT UP and is super pumped to meet me...
Then she's like, "How do you guys know each other" and the girl is like, "We just met, he just moved here" and she's laughing kinda nervously cause she knows that this is socially weird but at the same time she knows I'm awesome so it's like a tug of war... but the other girl is like, "Whaa" lmao, I forget how not normal it is to be doing what I'm doing...
But anyway- we keep talking for a bit.. oh- the girl I'm interested starts asking me about my necklace and again thinks it's SO AWESOME that I'm a "Cali boy"... idk what it is with girls and "cali boys" haha I think it's just an excuse that they can be like, "Ohhh THAT'S why he's cool) like it's something that they can make sense of...
Anyway- the girl I initially was talking to is like, 'Hey let's go to the dancefloor and is like, "Come with us BG" and I'm like, "uhh okay" and then as we get closer, I see that first girl there and I look at the girl I'm with and I'm like, "I don't wanna walk over there" and she's like, "Why" and I'm like, "I don't wanna say" and she's like, "NO... TELL ME" and I'm like, "No..." and she's like, "well okay, we're gonna go then" and I'm like, "okay.." and give her real solid eye contact and just like clockwork she's like, "No seriously, please tell me, I want to know" and I'm just like, "uh okay... I don't want to see someone over there" and she's like, "Oh so you know someone over there?" and I'm like, "yeah" and she kinda looks at me all upset and her other friend is pulling her away and she's just like, "okay" and walks away
Ugh, this was so dumb lmao... 1. I shouldn't have told the first girl I was leaving and 2. I shouldn't have given a flying fuck that I did say that and should have gone to the dancefloor with these girls anyway... like DURRR
Okay so after this, I head downstairs and I walk up to the bar to grab another water and I see two girls sitting down (hottest girls of the night) and I put my arm on the one closer to me's shoulder and I'm like, "Hey" and she kinda turns around a little startled and her friend tries to critique my approach and is like, "You can't touch her" and I just look at her and kinda smile and I do my standard, "okay" with GREAT eye contact... and then she literally just does a fucking 180 and is like, "But isn't she a BABE?" and I'm like, "OOOO should I have just come up and been like, 'HEY BABBBBBEEEEE how are you?!" in like a sarcastic//girly voice and they both start laughing and then the girl who intially called me out is like, "She is a babe, but you can't call her babe" and I'm like, "Okay" ... and then give the eye contact and then I'm like, "Well now you're just getting ahead of yourself, that doesn't come till later" and they both laugh and the shit tests are over... I PASSSSSED!! YAY!!! lmfao! jokes... But seriously
So I'm like, "I'm gonna grab this seat and I sit right between both of them so it's the one girl on my left, the other girl on my right" and I order my water...
They ask me the usual chode questions... turns out they are from cali and the convo s goin realll well... Like it's at that point where they are BOTH like really into me... like I'll say something and they BOTH will be like "What" and like both lean in super close to me to hear. But I started giving more attention to one of them and so the other one just sorta accepted her role and started being like, "OMG xxxgirl is AWESOMe... like she's the coolest... like if you want to meet someone she's such a great girl to meet"
Oh and then at one point we're talking and she's telling me about her job and like she's in sales and when she says this she says it in a super weird voice, so I rip on her for that but in a SUPER SUPER funny way and they are both like dieing of laughter. Convo continues (this one was REALLY long so I jjust don't remember much of the verbals) but yeah, I'm just sittin there and I feel very SOLID and like the other girl just keeps telling me how awesome her friend is and then at one point I'm like, "You guys are SO BEST FRIENDS" in like a girly voice and they start crackin up and I'm just like, "OMG BEST FRIENDS" and they are lovin it... but for the most part I'm just being a very solid dude, so this little bouts of playful humor come off funny and not like a clown... At one point, I tell the one girl to give me her # and she does... and I'm like, "have you ever shot a gun?" and she's like, "no but OMG I REALLY want to" and I'm like, "Yeah, I'm gonna take you to a shooting range" and she's like, "OMG that'd be AWESOME" so I'm like, "let's do it this weekend" and she's like, "Yeah text me this week so we can set it up".. very solid...
So we keep talking for a bit and like I'm just making them laugh at occasional points but other than that just being very solid... like nothing flashy... part of the issue is that I know I had attraction but I never got that like SUPER attraction so I never felt the moment was right to do a makeout or wtvr... and honestly, I just think this was a very "solid" interaction and could easily result in a day2 fuck... but also these girls were pretty hot and so they weren't going to be all "Lushy" and shit... they were mature, hot girls... High Quality.
So then after a bit I'm like, "Hey xxxgirl, sorry to break up all this awesomeness but it's getting late, I gotta head out" and she's like, "Okay" so I get up, give her a kiss on the cheek, give her friend a kiss on the cheek and peace out
-Pretty solid night. I think both #'s are solid. The first one may take a little more "game" than the second one.. but who knows... maybe they both will flake, maybe they both will be easy... who knows
But damn guys, this is getting easier and easier every time. And tonight I had SO MUCH FUN... I was just totally unstifled and doing what I wanted. Like I just felt great and was having a blast.
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
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The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
Okay, so I think something I do reallly fuckign well is how I handle shit tests... And the reason I tihnk I handle them well is becuase they literally do not bother me AT ALL...
Like there is ZERO change inside me when a girl says anything close to a shittest.
When girls asked me who I was with I didn't get any feeling inside of me like, "ohhh noooo" I just didn't give a flying fuck, like truly, inside I didn't react.. not just externally
When the girl told me I couldn't touch her friend... I didn't give a fuck. I understood where she was coming from and I just smiled and said, "Okay" because that's kinda how I felt inside. It was just an expressino of me.
This also allows me to say funny shit right after and not lose any ground.
But yeah, I would say that's one of the things I'm most pleased with about my nights so far, is my handling of shit tests... Like literally all I ever say is, "okay" ... with a completely straight face and HUGE eye contact.
That's it. I don't follow it up with anything, I don't try and like explain myself. I just let my eyes do the explaining for me.
Like, literally if my eyes could talk they would be saying, "Bitch.. does it look like I give even an ounce of a fuck about anything you just said" ... but I also smile so it's almost like it's just turned on them.
Wow. This is stuff that I couldn't do drunk. I'm really diggin this. Can't wait for tomorrow night. Once again though, it's all about getting the approaches in at this point- the rest will come, I have plenty of time... I just need to focus on getting in the amount of HARD approaches that I made a committment to myself to get.
Like there is ZERO change inside me when a girl says anything close to a shittest.
When girls asked me who I was with I didn't get any feeling inside of me like, "ohhh noooo" I just didn't give a flying fuck, like truly, inside I didn't react.. not just externally
When the girl told me I couldn't touch her friend... I didn't give a fuck. I understood where she was coming from and I just smiled and said, "Okay" because that's kinda how I felt inside. It was just an expressino of me.
This also allows me to say funny shit right after and not lose any ground.
But yeah, I would say that's one of the things I'm most pleased with about my nights so far, is my handling of shit tests... Like literally all I ever say is, "okay" ... with a completely straight face and HUGE eye contact.
That's it. I don't follow it up with anything, I don't try and like explain myself. I just let my eyes do the explaining for me.
Like, literally if my eyes could talk they would be saying, "Bitch.. does it look like I give even an ounce of a fuck about anything you just said" ... but I also smile so it's almost like it's just turned on them.
Wow. This is stuff that I couldn't do drunk. I'm really diggin this. Can't wait for tomorrow night. Once again though, it's all about getting the approaches in at this point- the rest will come, I have plenty of time... I just need to focus on getting in the amount of HARD approaches that I made a committment to myself to get.
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
I don't want ANY crutch. Like ZERO. Also- I'm eating really fucking healthy and so even having like 2 pints of beer would just be stupid. Tons of carbs//calories for no reason.. and it's just like for me, I have to understand that it's just ME doing this, without any help. It's the only way that I'll develop the really intense core confidence that I know I will have in the future.
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
I know tyler and most dating coaches talk about that stuff about, "Getting leverage on yourself" and I think that one of the main ways that I've heard them talk about doing that is by reaching a point where you're just so fucking fed up with your current life circumstances that you have no other choice than to start approaching and doing all that stuff.
But what if your life isn't that bad? What if you have a pretty decent social circle and could just have a couple shots, maybe a beer and have a fucking BLAST at night? What if you're a pretty normal dude in most respects and that "emotional" leverage will just never come?
Well what I've found is that an EXTREMELY STRONG committment to your values and what you stand for can provide this exact same type of "leverage". If you know who and what you want to be and what you want to accomplish in life and have a firm grasp of your own, personal, values and boundaries, it becomes easy to get leverage on yourself because you have just such an incredibly firm spot within yourself and what you stand for and you care DEEPLY about that stuff.
Like for me, the only thing keeping me from drinking and pushing me to approach is this "leverage" that I have over myself, which is entirely based around an incredibly firm grounding in my own values and understanding of who I want to be.
But what if your life isn't that bad? What if you have a pretty decent social circle and could just have a couple shots, maybe a beer and have a fucking BLAST at night? What if you're a pretty normal dude in most respects and that "emotional" leverage will just never come?
Well what I've found is that an EXTREMELY STRONG committment to your values and what you stand for can provide this exact same type of "leverage". If you know who and what you want to be and what you want to accomplish in life and have a firm grasp of your own, personal, values and boundaries, it becomes easy to get leverage on yourself because you have just such an incredibly firm spot within yourself and what you stand for and you care DEEPLY about that stuff.
Like for me, the only thing keeping me from drinking and pushing me to approach is this "leverage" that I have over myself, which is entirely based around an incredibly firm grounding in my own values and understanding of who I want to be.
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
Alright, sweet, so those were all the reports I had so far.
I will be posting one every night for the rest of the challenge and who knows, maybe I'll do like an 80 day challenge or somethin... we'll see. But 30 days for now. That's the focus.
It's funny cause I was actually really worried at first about how far my results would go down without alcohol, like it was seriously scary for me because it's just been SUCH a crutch and then on top of that going solo- but honestly, it's not that bad. And I'm starting to have fun with it.
This is the way to go gentleman.
As manwhore told me and some other guys,
"It's just something you have to do if you want to be great"
I will be posting one every night for the rest of the challenge and who knows, maybe I'll do like an 80 day challenge or somethin... we'll see. But 30 days for now. That's the focus.
It's funny cause I was actually really worried at first about how far my results would go down without alcohol, like it was seriously scary for me because it's just been SUCH a crutch and then on top of that going solo- but honestly, it's not that bad. And I'm starting to have fun with it.
This is the way to go gentleman.
As manwhore told me and some other guys,
"It's just something you have to do if you want to be great"
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
Dude, I'm a fan of your journals. It's cool to see you back on the board. I'm interested to see your results cause I use smoke as a similar crutch.
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Night #5
Okay so tonight had positives and negatives and then some things that just kind of... are what they are.
So I was a little more nervous today than yesterday. Idk why, it wasn't a huge deal and I actually ended up pushing through a lot of barriers that I discussed in previous posts. And I also executed the game plan (which I'll discuss later) very well.
So I get there and I'm feeling some nerves so I hit up a "warmup" girl. Really cute blondie from paris who actually just got into town tonight.
I get to the top of the stairs and do a little scan of the environment and I'm checking for any girls that I find attractive and she instantly pops out at me so I go up and grab her hand and say, "hey"... I was speaking VERY loudly but since she's foreign and the music was super loud, she couldn't understand me so she asked "what" like 4 times but I kept her from giving up by maintaining eye contact the whole time... As soon as she hears me and the "what" shit is over I tell her I forgive her and then she's like, "My names xxx" and I'm like, that was the name of my adorable dog (fact) she gets playfully offended and is kind of laughing so I'm like, "awww give me a hug" and I give her a massive hug but she's kind of resistant and does this like, 'noo what's hapening" thing but I just plow through it and give her the hug and then let her go and we keep talking.
We're both having problems hearing so I tell her, "come with me downstairs so we can grab a drink and talk" she kinda looks over at her friends and then back at me and I got the locked on eye contact but she's like, "I can't ... My friends..." and I'm just like, "Yeah it's cool we'll just talk for a bit" and so she agrees and tells her friends she's going downstairs with me. For some reasons I still feel slightly tense but it doesn't mater I'm just making sure to do what I can with my body language and eye contact so it's all good. I don't need state to approach.
So I take her downstairs and I get off the stairs before her, turn around and put my hands out and she grabs them and I guide her down, she lets go of my hands at the bottom of the stairs and we walk over and grab seats at the bar and she says she doesn't want anything more to drink and I just order a water and tip the bartender, so what ensues is over an hour of conversation but I was committed to staying in set and not bailing like I have been in the past...
I think my most natural style is that whole, "time is your ally" thing which is cool cause I always end up in very long, very solid sets but it can also be a little annoying cause I don't get that insane instant attraction... But trust me it builds.
So I just keep the eye contact on point and shoot the shit. I don't remember much of the verbals but there wasn't really anything of note... Oh at one point I get some dude next to us to take a picture of us and then I tell her to text it to me... So she takes my number but it turns out her phone can't send pics cause she just got it... So I take her phone and just text myself, "hey sexy" from it. We joke about this a bit and continue to talk for a while...
At this point I start thinking, "Okay I have to escalate.. .that's the gameplan" so I grab her stool and pull it closer to mine and put my arm around her.. sall good. So then another like 10 minutes of convo and she goes to the bathroom and I tell her I'll watch her drink and I end up shootin the shit with the bartender (cool dude) while she's gone.
She comes back and moves the stool away from mine, but it doesn't phase me at all. I just keep talking and vibing and after another like 10 minutes of convo, again I think, "Okay, the gameplan- escalate or lead but do one of those" so I just say FUCK IT and I have no clue if she's that into me but I just know I have to escalate so I go in for the makeout and it's on!
We makeout a bit and then I pull back.. shoot more shit... makeout.. shoot more shit... okay so now I'm thinking, "I've escalated, next step lead" so I stand up and grab her hand and lead her back up the stairs and at this point the attraction is super on and comfort//rapport has already been established so this is just a SUPER SOLID set.
Oh- also, so it's important to note that I used the makeout, PURELY as a tool for escalation. I had already escalated physically with putting my arm around her and shit and there just wasn't that much sexual tension, so I actually used the makeout to CREATE sexual tension, as opposed to what happens most of the time, which is that the makeout releases the tension.
Anyway- head upstairs and I sit down and I guide her to my lap and she straddles me and starts shakin her ass and I'm grabbin her ass and letting her dance on me. Oh, also her friends had come up and told her they were all leaving in like 10 minutes so she kept telling me, "okay I have to leave in 5" and kept giving me time updates... I think she may have wanted me to somehow take responsibility from her and get her to stay but I just didn't know how...
Anyway- at one poitn she gets in my ear and is like, "We'll see if you even text me".. like she's worried I won't. and I'm just like, "I'm gonna prove you wrong" and she's like, "We'll see"
So then I decide to keep leading her. So I grab her hand and take her back downstairs to the bar and we sit and shoot the shit and makeout a bit and I'm grabbin all over, gropin the titties etc..
So escalation was there... rapport was there... comfort was there (maybe- ooo this was missing!) attraction was there.. leading was there
I was very pleased with how I executed the gameplan with this gal. So anyway- her friends come down and say they are leaving and she tells me she has to leave, so I say, "okay" and give her a kiss goodbye.
She texts me like 20 minutes later saying, "Have a good night!". I text her back a smiley face.
So then I head to the bathroom cause I gotta take a fuckin piss. Take a piss and head back upstairs and I'm laughing like, "well fuck... still gotta get my approaches in! lol"
So I look around and there is really nothing around so I walk outside and chill for a bit and see two girls smoking. Roll up on them and ask for a cig... she gives it to me and I'm just like, "actually, I just wanted to talk to you guys" (weak as fuck.. I know lmao)... anyway- we talk for like 5 or 10 minutes but there isn't much attraction at all... and they head inside and i lose them.
So then as I'm walking inside I see three girls talking with this dude sitting down and I go in and pull out one of them and I grab her hand and give her bomb eye contact and I'm just like, "Hey" and she starts laughing cause she's nervous nad is like, "Hey".. "What's your name" so I tell her my name and she keeps laughing and i swear to god, here we go again, she's like, "Omg you're so from california" and I'm like, "yeah.. how'd you know" and she's like, "The necklace.. that and you look the part" .. so we talk for a bit more and she's just like nervous and then like grabs her friends hand who is talking to the dude and is like, "xxx this is BG! Guess where he's from!" so her friend guesses switzerland...
I tell her, "No.. california" and she's like, "What" and I'm like "california" and she's like, "What" ... now mind you it's not loud at all and I'm very much speaking loud so I look back at the first girl and I'm like, "Is there something wrong with your friend" ... I just knew something was off. She doesn't know what to say to me because she's girl coding her friend (telling her I'm actually a cool guy and not to fuck with me) so the other girl eventually is just like, "Whatever, I don't even care" so I turn back to the first girl and keep talking and I"m like, 'What's up with your friend, she was being weird" and she kinda just like shrugs and is almost like embarrassed about what her friend did.
So then, the other girl comes back into the picture and walks around in front of me and is smiling and like, "Wait what's your name again" and then is like, "I was just fucking around earlier" and I'm like, "oh okay, yeah I didn't really care, I just kinda thought you were a retard" and she starts laughing (my back is to the dude and I'm about 8 feet away from him) so now it's me with my back to the dude and slightly away from him with the two girls in front of me.. their third friend who was the only one left talking to the dude then comes over and is like, "Wait what's your name.. you're from cali right" so in a matter of like 40 seconds, I had stolen every single girl from the dude without speaking a word to the guy, "except when the first girl very briefly introduced us" and with hardly saying anything to the girls... this was kinda interesting...
Anyway- the first girl chimes back in and is like, "That other guy is calling you xxx" (He was trying to tool me by calling me a fake name) and I just look at her and I'm like, "yeah I don't care" and then keep talking to her friend... This really gets to her and she starts working for my attention.
But the other girl I'm talking to is way hotter so I just go with her.
She tells me how they just come to this bar to make fun of the guys and I laugh and I'm like, "except me" and give her serious eye contact and then I'm like, "Because I'm awesome" and she can't help but nod... "Attraction is NOT a choice" those are some TRUE fucking words right there... that's what was so confusing to these girls.. they did not come to this bar to get picked up, they came to make fun of guys and have a girl night... but then they all somehow found themselves attracted to me and couldn't figure out what was going on
So then the one girl is like, "Okay we're leaving" so I go up to the girl who initially was trying to fuck with me and I talk for just like another minute or two and then I'm like, "give me digits" and she's like, "Okay I'll give you my business card" and I look at her with eye contact and I'm like, "NO... I want your phone number" and she gives it to me. I text her, "-BG- the only guy at xxxbar you didn't make fun of"
And she responded later on with, "Is there sucha thing? haha hi nice to meet you"
So that was pretty cool. It was like literally the entire group just swarmed me and left the other dude. I didn't even really do anything... they all just like swarmed with questions like, "Where are you from, what's your name, omg cali, omg your necklace, omg cali, omg what's your name again" lmao
And I look back and the other dude is literally sitting alone now... kinda felt bad
So they leave and I head upstairs and approach one girl but it's awkward cause her back is to me and i try to grab her hand but miss lmao... so she ends up rejecting me pretty hard
Then I walk to the dance floor and some fatty wants me but I just stare her down and shake my head lmao... I'm kinda a dick..
Anyway- head to the back and see this fucking HOTTY in a red dress and just point at her... absolutely no go, she totally just ignores me. I stick around... she ignores me... I stick around... she ignores me.. their dude friend is laughing (I don't care) I grab one of their friends hands and she says something but I can't hear and then like goes away...
I head down and leave..
All approaches that I committed to were done.
I also executed the gameplan that I had set out VERY well.
I escalated and I led... And it seems as if both numbers are responding, so that's always a plus.
I also am beginning to approach groups of girls and guys and actually pulled all the girls away from that one dude... so lots of positives tonight and just overal executing the gameplan and focusing on my sticking points
I actually didn't feel nearly as "in state" as I did last night but was able to push and do things that I wasn't doing last night.. so that is really cool. State is a bonus, but I can do it all without state. Just an understanding of what needs to be done and then doing it.
Okay so tonight had positives and negatives and then some things that just kind of... are what they are.
So I was a little more nervous today than yesterday. Idk why, it wasn't a huge deal and I actually ended up pushing through a lot of barriers that I discussed in previous posts. And I also executed the game plan (which I'll discuss later) very well.
So I get there and I'm feeling some nerves so I hit up a "warmup" girl. Really cute blondie from paris who actually just got into town tonight.
I get to the top of the stairs and do a little scan of the environment and I'm checking for any girls that I find attractive and she instantly pops out at me so I go up and grab her hand and say, "hey"... I was speaking VERY loudly but since she's foreign and the music was super loud, she couldn't understand me so she asked "what" like 4 times but I kept her from giving up by maintaining eye contact the whole time... As soon as she hears me and the "what" shit is over I tell her I forgive her and then she's like, "My names xxx" and I'm like, that was the name of my adorable dog (fact) she gets playfully offended and is kind of laughing so I'm like, "awww give me a hug" and I give her a massive hug but she's kind of resistant and does this like, 'noo what's hapening" thing but I just plow through it and give her the hug and then let her go and we keep talking.
We're both having problems hearing so I tell her, "come with me downstairs so we can grab a drink and talk" she kinda looks over at her friends and then back at me and I got the locked on eye contact but she's like, "I can't ... My friends..." and I'm just like, "Yeah it's cool we'll just talk for a bit" and so she agrees and tells her friends she's going downstairs with me. For some reasons I still feel slightly tense but it doesn't mater I'm just making sure to do what I can with my body language and eye contact so it's all good. I don't need state to approach.
So I take her downstairs and I get off the stairs before her, turn around and put my hands out and she grabs them and I guide her down, she lets go of my hands at the bottom of the stairs and we walk over and grab seats at the bar and she says she doesn't want anything more to drink and I just order a water and tip the bartender, so what ensues is over an hour of conversation but I was committed to staying in set and not bailing like I have been in the past...
I think my most natural style is that whole, "time is your ally" thing which is cool cause I always end up in very long, very solid sets but it can also be a little annoying cause I don't get that insane instant attraction... But trust me it builds.
So I just keep the eye contact on point and shoot the shit. I don't remember much of the verbals but there wasn't really anything of note... Oh at one point I get some dude next to us to take a picture of us and then I tell her to text it to me... So she takes my number but it turns out her phone can't send pics cause she just got it... So I take her phone and just text myself, "hey sexy" from it. We joke about this a bit and continue to talk for a while...
At this point I start thinking, "Okay I have to escalate.. .that's the gameplan" so I grab her stool and pull it closer to mine and put my arm around her.. sall good. So then another like 10 minutes of convo and she goes to the bathroom and I tell her I'll watch her drink and I end up shootin the shit with the bartender (cool dude) while she's gone.
She comes back and moves the stool away from mine, but it doesn't phase me at all. I just keep talking and vibing and after another like 10 minutes of convo, again I think, "Okay, the gameplan- escalate or lead but do one of those" so I just say FUCK IT and I have no clue if she's that into me but I just know I have to escalate so I go in for the makeout and it's on!
We makeout a bit and then I pull back.. shoot more shit... makeout.. shoot more shit... okay so now I'm thinking, "I've escalated, next step lead" so I stand up and grab her hand and lead her back up the stairs and at this point the attraction is super on and comfort//rapport has already been established so this is just a SUPER SOLID set.
Oh- also, so it's important to note that I used the makeout, PURELY as a tool for escalation. I had already escalated physically with putting my arm around her and shit and there just wasn't that much sexual tension, so I actually used the makeout to CREATE sexual tension, as opposed to what happens most of the time, which is that the makeout releases the tension.
Anyway- head upstairs and I sit down and I guide her to my lap and she straddles me and starts shakin her ass and I'm grabbin her ass and letting her dance on me. Oh, also her friends had come up and told her they were all leaving in like 10 minutes so she kept telling me, "okay I have to leave in 5" and kept giving me time updates... I think she may have wanted me to somehow take responsibility from her and get her to stay but I just didn't know how...
Anyway- at one poitn she gets in my ear and is like, "We'll see if you even text me".. like she's worried I won't. and I'm just like, "I'm gonna prove you wrong" and she's like, "We'll see"
So then I decide to keep leading her. So I grab her hand and take her back downstairs to the bar and we sit and shoot the shit and makeout a bit and I'm grabbin all over, gropin the titties etc..
So escalation was there... rapport was there... comfort was there (maybe- ooo this was missing!) attraction was there.. leading was there
I was very pleased with how I executed the gameplan with this gal. So anyway- her friends come down and say they are leaving and she tells me she has to leave, so I say, "okay" and give her a kiss goodbye.
She texts me like 20 minutes later saying, "Have a good night!". I text her back a smiley face.
So then I head to the bathroom cause I gotta take a fuckin piss. Take a piss and head back upstairs and I'm laughing like, "well fuck... still gotta get my approaches in! lol"
So I look around and there is really nothing around so I walk outside and chill for a bit and see two girls smoking. Roll up on them and ask for a cig... she gives it to me and I'm just like, "actually, I just wanted to talk to you guys" (weak as fuck.. I know lmao)... anyway- we talk for like 5 or 10 minutes but there isn't much attraction at all... and they head inside and i lose them.
So then as I'm walking inside I see three girls talking with this dude sitting down and I go in and pull out one of them and I grab her hand and give her bomb eye contact and I'm just like, "Hey" and she starts laughing cause she's nervous nad is like, "Hey".. "What's your name" so I tell her my name and she keeps laughing and i swear to god, here we go again, she's like, "Omg you're so from california" and I'm like, "yeah.. how'd you know" and she's like, "The necklace.. that and you look the part" .. so we talk for a bit more and she's just like nervous and then like grabs her friends hand who is talking to the dude and is like, "xxx this is BG! Guess where he's from!" so her friend guesses switzerland...
I tell her, "No.. california" and she's like, "What" and I'm like "california" and she's like, "What" ... now mind you it's not loud at all and I'm very much speaking loud so I look back at the first girl and I'm like, "Is there something wrong with your friend" ... I just knew something was off. She doesn't know what to say to me because she's girl coding her friend (telling her I'm actually a cool guy and not to fuck with me) so the other girl eventually is just like, "Whatever, I don't even care" so I turn back to the first girl and keep talking and I"m like, 'What's up with your friend, she was being weird" and she kinda just like shrugs and is almost like embarrassed about what her friend did.
So then, the other girl comes back into the picture and walks around in front of me and is smiling and like, "Wait what's your name again" and then is like, "I was just fucking around earlier" and I'm like, "oh okay, yeah I didn't really care, I just kinda thought you were a retard" and she starts laughing (my back is to the dude and I'm about 8 feet away from him) so now it's me with my back to the dude and slightly away from him with the two girls in front of me.. their third friend who was the only one left talking to the dude then comes over and is like, "Wait what's your name.. you're from cali right" so in a matter of like 40 seconds, I had stolen every single girl from the dude without speaking a word to the guy, "except when the first girl very briefly introduced us" and with hardly saying anything to the girls... this was kinda interesting...
Anyway- the first girl chimes back in and is like, "That other guy is calling you xxx" (He was trying to tool me by calling me a fake name) and I just look at her and I'm like, "yeah I don't care" and then keep talking to her friend... This really gets to her and she starts working for my attention.
But the other girl I'm talking to is way hotter so I just go with her.
She tells me how they just come to this bar to make fun of the guys and I laugh and I'm like, "except me" and give her serious eye contact and then I'm like, "Because I'm awesome" and she can't help but nod... "Attraction is NOT a choice" those are some TRUE fucking words right there... that's what was so confusing to these girls.. they did not come to this bar to get picked up, they came to make fun of guys and have a girl night... but then they all somehow found themselves attracted to me and couldn't figure out what was going on
So then the one girl is like, "Okay we're leaving" so I go up to the girl who initially was trying to fuck with me and I talk for just like another minute or two and then I'm like, "give me digits" and she's like, "Okay I'll give you my business card" and I look at her with eye contact and I'm like, "NO... I want your phone number" and she gives it to me. I text her, "-BG- the only guy at xxxbar you didn't make fun of"
And she responded later on with, "Is there sucha thing? haha hi nice to meet you"
So that was pretty cool. It was like literally the entire group just swarmed me and left the other dude. I didn't even really do anything... they all just like swarmed with questions like, "Where are you from, what's your name, omg cali, omg your necklace, omg cali, omg what's your name again" lmao
And I look back and the other dude is literally sitting alone now... kinda felt bad
So they leave and I head upstairs and approach one girl but it's awkward cause her back is to me and i try to grab her hand but miss lmao... so she ends up rejecting me pretty hard
Then I walk to the dance floor and some fatty wants me but I just stare her down and shake my head lmao... I'm kinda a dick..
Anyway- head to the back and see this fucking HOTTY in a red dress and just point at her... absolutely no go, she totally just ignores me. I stick around... she ignores me... I stick around... she ignores me.. their dude friend is laughing (I don't care) I grab one of their friends hands and she says something but I can't hear and then like goes away...
I head down and leave..
All approaches that I committed to were done.
I also executed the gameplan that I had set out VERY well.
I escalated and I led... And it seems as if both numbers are responding, so that's always a plus.
I also am beginning to approach groups of girls and guys and actually pulled all the girls away from that one dude... so lots of positives tonight and just overal executing the gameplan and focusing on my sticking points
I actually didn't feel nearly as "in state" as I did last night but was able to push and do things that I wasn't doing last night.. so that is really cool. State is a bonus, but I can do it all without state. Just an understanding of what needs to be done and then doing it.
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
@talent
That's cool man. Yeah, the crutches make it easy in the short run but make it impossible to become really great at this.
Becoming really great at this requires persistence and being sober. I'm able to actually execute a gameplan now that I'm sober and can negotiate shit much easier
It's really hard the first few nights but after that- it's no big deal... approaching sober and alone gets really easy after just a few nights out.
That's cool man. Yeah, the crutches make it easy in the short run but make it impossible to become really great at this.
Becoming really great at this requires persistence and being sober. I'm able to actually execute a gameplan now that I'm sober and can negotiate shit much easier
It's really hard the first few nights but after that- it's no big deal... approaching sober and alone gets really easy after just a few nights out.
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90 Days Challenge (Currently in the Final Third): "It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great"
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha
Buddhagames
Trusted Member
Join Date: 07/25/2011 | Posts: 2647
What's up fellas, so I had a field report diary a bit ago entitled, "Diaries of a Chode".. I started that about a year ago and it was awesome. I had a ton of success and a lot of fun. I was in college, going downtown, rockin out in general and it was good times.
Just graduated college, I'm 23, did some traveling and now I'm back in my hometowm (weird calling it that now, as opposed to my parents place)
So I've been workin a lot on Manwhore's forum. The dude has helped me so much in the past 5-6 months or so, it's awesome. Gonna be working with him a lot starting soon, so that should be fun.
Anyway- While I had a lot of success and feltl like I was getting pretty good, I realized that it wasn't founded on anything sustainable. I was drinking every night I went out (that's a LOT of alcohol lmao) and I was always with an awesome crew when I went out.
So, I decided to break these crutches, walk through the fire, and settle down and just knock this shit out. I want to be great. I will be great, but in order to get there, I gotta walk through the fire. I gotta strip myself of ALL the crutches and come out the other side.
So the best way to do this? Let's kick it off with a 30 day solo/sober challenge and reevaluate. I've been posting most of my field reports so far from this challenge on www.manwhore.org/forum but I figured I would move them all over to here as well where I could have them all in one journal.
Damn, I gotta say. It's tough to let go of that ego and accept that things are going to get worse... a LOT worse... until they get better. But the only way for me to achieve greatness is to do exactly that and walk through the fire. So here it is fellas. The beginning of a story.
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/233192/forum
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars
A man may fall down many times, but he won't be a f ailure until he says someone pushed him"
Buddha