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May 20th, 2013
This is probably the most brutal set i've ever heard (want to know what Tyler would do)
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#31
Groovejam

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Join Date: 01/17/2011 | Posts: 56

She doesn't seem like a nice person and I wouldn't want her in my life. In the interests of PU as a hobby & developing a skillset, here's what I'd do (bear in mind i'm intermediate at best, but HAVE turned around worse sets than this)

His opener sucks. It screams VALIDATE me... Instead try "You're SO CUTE, you're adorable.. I'm adopting you cos you're a badass". Basically kick the door down rather than sneak in

Her - "we're kinda cute, fuck off you're not cute at all"

Me - "You're cool, dont make me come down there Lucy Lu, you're so cool"
(it'd be all different responses now, but I'm gonna stick with the video for now, just the sake of it)

Her - "Why dont you try going to a gay bar, they'd love you there"

(Here's where she tore his frame to pieces... he's qualifying himself now)

Me - "You're so cool. You're so cool" (credit oldschool tyler JAP busting. Holding frame, qualifying HER)

Her (different response from video) - Cooler than you, faggot... (she's reacting & qualifying herself now).

Me - The last girl who called me that sucked my dick for 2 hours, so dont say things you can't take back (cutting the space between us, very important. I get from the video that he was too terrified to go anywhere near her, let alone kino)

Her - Whatever dickhead, I bet it's fucking tiny... why are you still here blah blah

Me - You ARE a badass. I'm keeping you, you're mine. Just STOP talking about my dick, you're killing my mojo (push / pull, while cutting more space)

Her - Whatever blah blah blah, faggot, loser, ugly, tiny dick

Me - Girl you're DONE IN THIS TOWN, you're fucking through. Come here, you're cool and I love you (major push pull)

Her - Hey I'm from here, fuck you (reacting)

Me - You're finished, you're done here, just stop. Come here girl

Go kino at this point. You've had her qualifying & reacting enough. With good subcommunications, she's already inside your frame

The verbals matter very little as long as you hold your frame well. He immediately got sucked into her "I'm a hot girl" frame, and his crumbled. He's qualifying at the wrong times ("i'm an engineer" or something LOL, she's treating him like shit and he's throwing that in, WEAK... and "I like you cos you talk shit like me", URGH terrible. Classic example of old school PUA trying to stick to his script LOL)

Bear in mind guys I'm pretty intermediate AT BEST, but I have opened worse sets than this. On the other hand, maybe the girls in Dublin, Ireland aren't as hardcore as wherever this is :)

Input / deconstruction very welcome, i love learning  :)
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Distant Light

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This is retarded, this guy has zero respect for himself...

Its even funnier that people would actually try to "work" this. Yes the guy came in super lame and handled himself in such a poor fashion. I personally woulda walked away but assuming I said his opener I woulda cracked up laughing at her response before walking away.

This reminds me of 2 days ago these 3 indian girls I went to talk to looked at me in horror as I tapped them They were basically group huddling away from me. Not even 1sec was wasted, I laughed went back to having fun. 15mins later they're fucking standing on the sofa right next to me. Keep in mind, they had to bypass people to get to where I was.

My thing is...

If a chick can't perceive my value off the opener and even before then she's dumb plain and simple. I've seen so many women including the 3 indians give that dumb "wow I sure fucked up" look.

Fuck calibration, if she doesn't cater to my criteria I'm going to walk away...
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Groovejam

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This is an awesome mindset :D

When you were cultivating that philosophy though, surely you went through a phase of "Fuck it, i'm gonna try turn this around just for the experience and the fun", or even just to see if you can?
Distant Light wrote:
This is retarded, this guy has zero respect for himself...

Its even funnier that people would actually try to "work" this. Yes the guy came in super lame and handled himself in such a poor fashion. I personally woulda walked away but assuming I said his opener I woulda cracked up laughing at her response before walking away.

This reminds me of 2 days ago these 3 indian girls I went to talk to looked at me in horror as I tapped them They were basically group huddling away from me. Not even 1sec was wasted, I laughed went back to having fun. 15mins later they're fucking standing on the sofa right next to me. Keep in mind, they had to bypass people to get to where I was.

My thing is...

If a chick can't perceive my value off the opener and even before then she's dumb plain and simple. I've seen so many women including the 3 indians give that dumb "wow I sure fucked up" look.

Fuck calibration, if she doesn't cater to my criteria I'm going to walk away...
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Dr Feelgood

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I guess if you want to plow through every single set, you will get this every night, maybe even more than once.

That chick is just really not interrested and has quite an aggressive way of expressing that - the purpose is to make him go away ASAP. I wouldn't really call her crazy.

In the beginning he is begging for rapport and hardcore qualifying himself with that "Chemical engineer" thing. Pathetic! His frame is weaker, weaker than hers, maybe that's the reason he loses here.

Sometimes chicks are not interrested. I wouldn't be interrested in his stupid blah blah if I was a chick...
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#35

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Join Date: 04/06/2012 | Posts: 276

Manwhore wrote:
 Dude. You deserved everything you got.

When you're first starting out, or maybe even if you're not just starting out but you're having a bad night and are defaulting to defensive behavior, you resort to tactics that are just way too dick *ok Tara says "way too dick, WAY too dick, when you should be saying 'I want your pussy' (then she starts going off in transylvanian accent about wanting to take you home to your jacuzzi etc..),. 

(Ok this part below is from earlier...)

And Tara who is here with me says "And.. you totally suck at getting bitches. *ha ha ha* btw.. by the way. (she's sounding it out for me)


So she ended it with "Why would you want to make her mad instead of just trying to make her happy??" 



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#36
J.Sark

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 I thought i would see some video of some epic beating on some poor guy..... What the fuck is with him: "are you stupid? I was being nice and blalbalblabl" FUCK YOU FAGGOT, just go away man. Is like, Oh, I was nice, she wasnt nice to me, OH, OH...... nonsense. Why would you even waste your time with such a retarded bitch.
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iRyan

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This guy clearly didn't watch the latest free tour video! 

He should of screamed in her face then headbutted her :)
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I don't get y all the hatred is directed towards the guy. Is it because you guys are into self-help and think that this shit can be "solved" by him changing (stop acting like a pussy)? or is it because u guys believe that a vagina is a free pass to acting like a spoilt piece of shit? Cuz in my opinion some women are getting away with waaaaaay too much shit these days.
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#39
jlaix

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No we would NOT tell her to kill herself and she's done in this town. Another misinterpretation of clearly explained tactics. That shit is used when it's going WELL but the chick isn't giving enough compliance, and/or on seen-it-all stunners. This guy was never doing well, and I doubt this chick was of that level
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#40

Resmat

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So I'm assuming you wouldn't plow through this set and just leave if she reacted like she did in the video>?
jlaix wrote:
No we would NOT tell her to kill herself and she's done in this town. Another misinterpretation of clearly explained tactics. That shit is used when it's going WELL but the chick isn't giving enough compliance, and/or on seen-it-all stunners. This guy was never doing well, and I doubt this chick was of that level
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