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January 21st, 2017
3 minutes of "in-field video" -- lots of tiny lessons for me
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#21
OMAR

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 thx to scumbag heres the video i was referring to around the 2:50 mark.
   SOme days i apprioach half ass like u adn almsot "waiting" for somethign to happen. But the days where i just say fuk it and do it like tyler I learn a lot and find learn big lessons, Fcuk i love RSD.. COupled with Ozzies fucked up practises i satarted huggin couples making out and all sorts of wirerd shit that has my friends laughing and in awe and secretly i grow stronger :)
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#22
alienantfarm

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My feedback:
keep your hands out of pockets
weird hand behind head gesture
you stand with your feet too close together
you seem to "shuffle" your feet a bit. Manwhore once told me that you should move (even in a busy packed club) with "purpose" and "flow", you seem to be "moving with uncertainty"
also, you seem to have your feet pointed in towards each other when standing slightly
arms crossed = bad

mostly BL stuff since you can't hear the audio so well.

Props on uploading this though, and honestly, probably not your best interaction I reckon - probably not a fair judge of your overall "game".

You should have pulled her in right away hug style.

The interaction was pretty much done. Don't get the handshake part where she puts out her hand for you and you hesitate on it but then are like "wahaha shake" or something.

This girl was def. down, and gave you a few openings but you were probably out of state so missed them.

Anyways, make it a rule to escalate fast on every girl.
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My personal philosophy: You need to step to every single girl like a fucking bomb. You need to have presence. You need to stand out, and not in a surface level way such as what you're wearing, but as who you are and the way in which you communicate. You need to be unforgettable. You need to create a sense of urgency, that you are now or never. You need to push and at the same time be completely willing to walk away. It is essential to disidentify with the ego, otherwise the inherent rejection associated with pickup will destroy you.

"You need to let them know what kind of man you are, so they know what kind of woman to be."
"Fear is always a constant, but accepting it...makes you stronger."
"Once you done slayed 20-30 of them hoodrats, now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho."
"I've got no game. And every face looks the same. They've got no name. So I don't need game to play. I just say whatever I want to whoever I want. Whenever I want, wherever I want, however I want."
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#23
UtopiaFive

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#24
UtopiaFive

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For my past 3 months its "pretty good" honestly as I've just been weird all around, but for the past year its pretty crap.  Jan+Feb == 11 lays, then March-now == 1 lay, and that was just a gimme cuz my friend was pulling 2 girls and I was around heh.  

As for "make it a rule to escalate fast on every girl" -- I've been trying to do well with less physicality on the whole, but I didn't sense that this one was receptive to caveman shit, hence her slight walking backwards n shit.  Regardless I know I would keep getting laid by doing that heavy escalation shit but I'd be sticking at a certain level by doing that forever.  Maybe since I'm not gettin any lately I should just go back to it til I have a few girls I can bang for a while, but I don't think that's what's gonna get me best long-term, like a year from now.  

Then again, yeah its 2AM so...
alienantfarm wrote:
My feedback:
keep your hands out of pockets
weird hand behind head gesture
you stand with your feet too close together
you seem to "shuffle" your feet a bit. Manwhore once told me that you should move (even in a busy packed club) with "purpose" and "flow", you seem to be "moving with uncertainty"
also, you seem to have your feet pointed in towards each other when standing slightly
arms crossed = bad

mostly BL stuff since you can't hear the audio so well.

Props on uploading this though, and honestly, probably not your best interaction I reckon - probably not a fair judge of your overall "game".

You should have pulled her in right away hug style.

The interaction was pretty much done. Don't get the handshake part where she puts out her hand for you and you hesitate on it but then are like "wahaha shake" or something.

This girl was def. down, and gave you a few openings but you were probably out of state so missed them.

Anyways, make it a rule to escalate fast on every girl.
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#25
alienantfarm

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I feel ya man, I was on a tear, but as of late (only a few lays spread out the past month or so) I've been WACK, and those lays were "lame".

Have you tried taking a short break? I actually find taking breaks helps my game.
UtopiaFive wrote:
For my past 3 months its "pretty good" honestly as I've just been weird all around, but for the past year its pretty crap.  Jan+Feb == 11 lays, then March-now == 1 lay, and that was just a gimme cuz my friend was pulling 2 girls and I was around heh.  

As for "make it a rule to escalate fast on every girl" -- I've been trying to do well with less physicality on the whole, but I didn't sense that this one was receptive to caveman shit, hence her slight walking backwards n shit.  Regardless I know I would keep getting laid by doing that heavy escalation shit but I'd be sticking at a certain level by doing that forever.  Maybe since I'm not gettin any lately I should just go back to it til I have a few girls I can bang for a while, but I don't think that's what's gonna get me best long-term, like a year from now.  

Then again, yeah its 2AM so...
alienantfarm wrote:
My feedback:
keep your hands out of pockets
weird hand behind head gesture
you stand with your feet too close together
you seem to "shuffle" your feet a bit. Manwhore once told me that you should move (even in a busy packed club) with "purpose" and "flow", you seem to be "moving with uncertainty"
also, you seem to have your feet pointed in towards each other when standing slightly
arms crossed = bad

mostly BL stuff since you can't hear the audio so well.

Props on uploading this though, and honestly, probably not your best interaction I reckon - probably not a fair judge of your overall "game".

You should have pulled her in right away hug style.

The interaction was pretty much done. Don't get the handshake part where she puts out her hand for you and you hesitate on it but then are like "wahaha shake" or something.

This girl was def. down, and gave you a few openings but you were probably out of state so missed them.

Anyways, make it a rule to escalate fast on every girl.

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Read my review of Get Laid or Die Trying

My personal philosophy: You need to step to every single girl like a fucking bomb. You need to have presence. You need to stand out, and not in a surface level way such as what you're wearing, but as who you are and the way in which you communicate. You need to be unforgettable. You need to create a sense of urgency, that you are now or never. You need to push and at the same time be completely willing to walk away. It is essential to disidentify with the ego, otherwise the inherent rejection associated with pickup will destroy you.

"You need to let them know what kind of man you are, so they know what kind of woman to be."
"Fear is always a constant, but accepting it...makes you stronger."
"Once you done slayed 20-30 of them hoodrats, now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho."
"I've got no game. And every face looks the same. They've got no name. So I don't need game to play. I just say whatever I want to whoever I want. Whenever I want, wherever I want, however I want."
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#26
UtopiaFive

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Hah, I don't even know why these ones are entitled "blowout" they're just "meh".

Spike videotapin me when I don't even know it lol...



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#27
UtopiaFive

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BTW no need to "defend" as I'm not trying to make any "impression" right?  

Win for me cuz of any feedback on a shitty night for me.  Where it is true what manwhore and alientantfarm told me, that I don't drop in the SOI aka "I like you..." which is actually probably what made my super good set tonight go super well versus dropping off after 15 mins or so (like I literally was thinking "hmm why isnt she saying I like you too!" but I stuck in lnog enough to realize "damn shes fucking WET after hearing this shit").  Like now I'm all "hrm so I was just a good-looking idiot not realizing they're DYING for my validation..."  So definite win for me on that front.  

Win for any "cool ppl" who might actually have good skillz but are bored of this shit, cuz they're like "OP is a phaggot but he is posting videos maybe I can brag and show off my actual GOOD SHIT to this newb..."

And also a win for actual phaggots who are thinking "oh wow thats some good skillz that youtopia guy has there maybe I can do that too, not everyones game has to be super tight like tylers n shit, I can do it too!"  

Also maybe I can jokingly say that I'm putting an end to the LOOKS MATTER DEBATE by showing "relatively good looking dude is obviously BEHAVING way GAYER than he actually looks..."  lol  (Why does this guy look so good and act so hesitant?)

Yeah, cool story bro.  

PS yeah what Spike is saying is on point except even though I was in "negative thought patterns" I wasn't seeing anything as "getting blown out left and right" -- and even that girl, its not that SHE did anything wrong, she was excited to get some INTEREST (my comment) and then I wasn't pushy/aggressive/ballsy enough to follow up
SpikeSpiegel wrote:
I'm just gonna chime in here since I'm not going out tonight. kinda surprised u5 posted this as his infield "debut" because it is a pretty poor indication of what the dude's capable of. To put the homo-voice in context, this was probably one of the worst nights I've ever had since I started, so I basically gave up at the end of the night (aka the best time to pull) and said "fuck it, i'm just gonna record shit cause I can't do anything." So I had a very "inside my head" voice that sounds even worse when I play it back on video.

That being said the whole "gay sounding voice" thing is kind of a non-issue so long as you're just loud enough and lead well. I think it has more of an effect on your own self-image and how other guys perceive you rather than how a girl responds. I have a recent recording of myself fingering some chick in my car (through her panties) all-the-while having a non-dominant kinda gay-voice and I assume I had been talking like that for a while through my interaction with her. And I've had just a shitload of references to tell me that the specific sound of the voice is not a big deal (though tonality is). I mean it could honestly just be the way that the mic is pointing away from myself because when i face the camera towards me, I sound better (obv i'm being a little insecure about it because I want to have a cool-sounding voice and not have awkward/gay pitches in it). 

anyway i just sent the video of the approach to u5 because it was unique in that we were getting blown out left and right and he managed to say some half-assed "nice boots" shit and the girl turned around in an almost cartoonish way. But yeah that girl was prob the least attractive one I saw get approached that night because 1) she had no figure 2) she wasn't dressed even a little sexy 3) she was annoying and kinda afraid to be touched. Iono from here i'm gonna avoid putting words into u5's mouth but from my perspective that shit was weak I thought it hooked really well but the girl was kind of a prude.

I think it would be best to take the video as a representation of the dude trying to "run the program" while having an off-night. Maybe he learns more from that kind of shit than when he's on and pulling or whatever. I give props for posting such a.....self-deprecating interaction cause honestly any of you guys who have been going out for even a little bit have had a better interaction than this one. I mean...dude's been doing this for 5 years and took 2-3 bootcamps and banged a number of hoes and his first infield footage video is of some average looking chick blowing him off.  must not care about his reputation at all. or is super retarded.
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#28
OMAR

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I never expected op's voice to sound like that and it was kind of wierd expectation i guess on my part and might jsut be an indication that its ok that some ppl r not capable of having a deeper richer voice. But when i speak from experience i know that there are times when i have a deeper more rich voice compared to the times my voice is like u mentioned "inside my head voice". And this immediately changes after i meditate, do posture correction excercises or practise the buteyko method.  But in the end ur right u can be a pimp regardless its just that haveing a deeeper richer voice is a preference of mine so thats why i pay attention to it. 
SpikeSpiegel wrote:
I'm just gonna chime in here since I'm not going out tonight. kinda surprised u5 posted this as his infield "debut" because it is a pretty poor indication of what the dude's capable of. To put the homo-voice in context, this was probably one of the worst nights I've ever had since I started, so I basically gave up at the end of the night (aka the best time to pull) and said "fuck it, i'm just gonna record shit cause I can't do anything." So I had a very "inside my head" voice that sounds even worse when I play it back on video.

That being said the whole "gay sounding voice" thing is kind of a non-issue so long as you're just loud enough and lead well. I think it has more of an effect on your own self-image and how other guys perceive you rather than how a girl responds. I have a recent recording of myself fingering some chick in my car (through her panties) all-the-while having a non-dominant kinda gay-voice and I assume I had been talking like that for a while through my interaction with her. And I've had just a shitload of references to tell me that the specific sound of the voice is not a big deal (though tonality is). I mean it could honestly just be the way that the mic is pointing away from myself because when i face the camera towards me, I sound better (obv i'm being a little insecure about it because I want to have a cool-sounding voice and not have awkward/gay pitches in it). 

anyway i just sent the video of the approach to u5 because it was unique in that we were getting blown out left and right and he managed to say some half-assed "nice boots" shit and the girl turned around in an almost cartoonish way. But yeah that girl was prob the least attractive one I saw get approached that night because 1) she had no figure 2) she wasn't dressed even a little sexy 3) she was annoying and kinda afraid to be touched. Iono from here i'm gonna avoid putting words into u5's mouth but from my perspective that shit was weak I thought it hooked really well but the girl was kind of a prude.

I think it would be best to take the video as a representation of the dude trying to "run the program" while having an off-night. Maybe he learns more from that kind of shit than when he's on and pulling or whatever. I give props for posting such a.....self-deprecating interaction cause honestly any of you guys who have been going out for even a little bit have had a better interaction than this one. I mean...dude's been doing this for 5 years and took 2-3 bootcamps and banged a number of hoes and his first infield footage video is of some average looking chick blowing him off.  must not care about his reputation at all. or is super retarded.
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#29
OMAR

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im not, but i guess its a natural thing. Do u see the difference tho in ur voice compared to julian's. Maybe its a natural thing after all or maybe its somethign taht if worked on can get to that point. 
SpikeSpiegel wrote:
1) not saying my ipod has a "gay bias" (though that is hillarious), but i'd bet the voices would sound proper through a real microphone.

2) are you black? It seems like your deep richness could be more of a result of "blackness" than "breathing." Kinda half-serious here but just wondering lol.
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#30

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 dude I know where it is. Its in San Francisco right next to a homeless shelter....This gal maybe from there too....
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