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15Step

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Join Date: 01/30/2010 | Posts: 67

Friday 8 June 2012
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Just came back from the club.

Interesting night. A few hours ago I was wondering whether I should go out solo or not - it turned out totally worth it. I don't remember every set (I was drinking and got a bit drunk), but here goes:

First set, girl behind me in coat room queue. I ask her how much it costs to have your coat stored in the coat room. She tells me. I say I heard it's half for females. She's like yeah I hope so!

I tell her she probably graduated from uni 5 years ago. She says wow I think she's young. I say that's a huge compliment, you should be happy. Turns out she's 23. She asked me how long ago I finished university. I tell her I graduated in 2008. I tell her I failed nursery school and I was in special class :-)

I hand in my coat, say goodbye. First set done - great stuff.

I go get some drinks. I try Tyler's who are you opener on some HB - fail. I think it failed because I pointed, didn't do the claw and wasn't dominant. I tell the dude next to me they don't have the drink I want but have some cheap substitute. He says some BS like I should get it on the house. I finish my drinks - all good

I head to the dance floor. Some dude greets me. I vibe with him and we go hit on some bitches together. I tell some girl I'm the loneliest guy in the club, I just want a friend haha - she smiles and laughs it off.

We land up at the bar and his brother has bought some shots of tequila. I down one - we vibe, shoot the shit, it's all good.

I go back to the dance floor. HB5 and HB6 are dancing. I like HB6 - but I'm too much of a pussy to do anything.

HB9 comes up to me and says I should be drinking a more manly beer. Of course she's hitting on me. Do I do anything? No.

I go to another spot on the dance floor. Some dude asks me "Are you having fun bro?" I say "Yeah!". I'm dancing near a group, another dude asks me "Do you know these girls?". He tries to dance with one - fail.

Some HB comes up to me and is one second away from pulling into me. Has her hands on my chest, Her male friend comes along, takes her aside and pulls her. She's clearly very drunk, looking for some guy to fuck. Was cool to witness this - shows how desperate bitches can be.

HBIndian is looking at me like she wants me badly. I'm not really into her but her friend HBBrunette isn't bad. I try dance with the friend - she's half into it. HBIndian says HB7 isn't available or some shit.

I join some group of random people and we're dancing in a circle.

Later on in the night I see HBBRunette with HBBlonde who is quite hot. I go up to them. HBBrunette says I should pull HBBlonde. I tell HBBlonde HBBRunette is funny. I dance a bit with HBBlonde. She pulls into me. We front grind a little. She moves a few metres away from me. I go up to her and pull her aggressively. She's a bad kisser. We have little chemistry. She waves and blows a kiss goodbye.

I go to the coat room queue. I arrive at the same time as HB8. She says something like you can go in front of me I don't want to fight. I'm talking BS to her and her gay friend. Some people are pushing in front of us from the side. I tell her. She bitches at them, doesn't help. Eventually she's in front of me. I try push in front of her - she says fuck off I'm in front. She's getting tense and is fired up. The gay friend is supporting her. I say you can go in front, just calm down. This is a joke to me - I run a business and have huge responsibility. A retarded girl pushing in front of me in the coat line is a minor issue to me - she can have her way, it's all good.

I get my stuff, leave.

What went well:

I went out solo - second time in my life, not easy and very uncomofortable
Make out
I felt comofortable being on my own. The alcohol helps, but still.

What I learnt:

Towards the early hours of the morning, girls are drunk and really want to be pulled. The guys who make moves get them. The guys who chicken out don't.
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Saturday June 9 2012
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Went out. It was an interesting night.

I was shit scared and DID NOT FEEL LIKE GOING OUT!

But of course I resisted and it was well worth it. I SHALL NOT BE A PUSSY :)

It was cool to socially vibe with people. I had some NTPs which got proven wrong again.

1) Saw girl from previous night. She hugged me hello. I thought she would think I'm weird for being alone - seems like she liked me. Fortune telling NTP.
2) Was on dance floor. Some VERY drunk girl dancing near me. Spanish dude says she wants me and I must pull. I say she's too wasted. I see her later - she's so fucking out of it she can barely speak but is somehow standing. Cool.
3) Met this one dude at the bar Nick. We hit on some bitches together. I tried to dance with this blonde. She was cute but she didn't want to.
4) Nick introduces me to his crew, his one friend isn't bad. We have a fun time trying to creep out these 2 HB's who don't want to make out. :)
5) We get food later. Vibed a bit. Take each others numbers, it's all good.

All in all - had a good night :-)

What went well:

Went out alone
Met some people, expanding my social group

Lessons:
Stop being a pussy
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"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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Friday 16 June 2012
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Was shit scared of going out alone. But I did it anyway. Yeah it's beginning to sound like a broken record - good.

Arrive at the club. Started talking to some random dude - trying to get social momentum going. We had a good chat.

Time for dance floor. I meet this group of people - HBFunny and HBCute and a dude. HBFunny is not my type at all but won't stop putting her arm around me and trying to pull. She manages to land two free bottle of champagne from the club promoters. We all share the bottle, it's good shit.

I'm now getting a lecture from HBFunny about how I must go and find the lady I want. Ok maybe she'll calm down now :)

I try dance with HBCute - she's into it. I twirl her a few times, she has her arm around me. But I didn't pull. Yep. I need to be more aggressive in my game - coming soon to a place near you.

I get another drink, slowly getting drunk :-) Back to the dance floor. HBFunny is still trying to get me - I resist. Dude from earlier comes to dance with HB7. I take HB7's hand, twirl her, dance from behind, rub my crotch on her, I'm hard, good, make out. Was an excellent make out session, she's good at kissing and can grind like a pro. HAH. HBFunny has seen the whole thing and asks me if I just met here. I say yes. She's like WTF. Now she really wants me  HAH.

I try a few other sets, no go.

I'm drunk, tired from a hard work of week, feeling good, time to hit the sack.

What went well:
Make out
Vibed with people

What I learnt:
BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN YOUR GAME
Take risks
Going out alone is fun
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"Contrary to popular opinion, being an idiot, making mistakes and getting it all wrong are clear signs of somebody on the way to mastery of a skill" - Ozzie

"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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So from reading my journal I can see where I'm going wrong. This is the point of this journal - to reflect, learn, and hear advice from others.

1) I'm not taking enough risks in my game
2) I care too much about what people think

Solutions:

1) DO IT. Gain reference experiences.
2) Meditate to calm my mind. Go out more and more and more and I'll see how meaningless people's opinions of me are
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"Contrary to popular opinion, being an idiot, making mistakes and getting it all wrong are clear signs of somebody on the way to mastery of a skill" - Ozzie

"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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Saturday 16 June 2012

Arrive at the club. Get some drinks. I'm in my head for an hour or so until I see a dude I know. He's trying to do some dance floor approaches but is failing badly. Anyway props to him for having the balls to do so.

I find another dude who I met before from the club. We try do a few approaches on the dance floor but I'm sucking tonight. Some girls were compliant but I didn't escalate enough. Others were just annoyed with me.

Two set on the dance floor. I claw the one with Tyler's "who are you?" opener, which I'm finally getting right. The other says to me "so that's why you've been staring at her , because you think she's hot" There's something to learn here. Approach and quickly and aggressively.

We hit a cafe to get some food. Some people from the club are there. We talk crap to some girls, one's 18 which is too young. The other isn't my type.

I need to improve my verbal game and get used to vibing with girls and just teasing and getting their emotions up. I was good once upon a time, so hey I can always get the skill back.

All in all was a bad night for pickup, but had a good night out.

The good:
Went out
Had a good time

The bad:
Verbal game lacking
Didn't escalate when I could have
Didn't do enough approaches
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"Contrary to popular opinion, being an idiot, making mistakes and getting it all wrong are clear signs of somebody on the way to mastery of a skill" - Ozzie

"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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Friends came to visit me last weekend, didn't go out to clubs as such. Just chilled, joked around , messed about.
On top of that, my ears were fucking sore from the loud music at the venue I was going to. Sounds pathetic, but I had to take a break or I'd probably be in agony or lose hearing or both. Had a positive week otherwise, was feeling like a champ, had a cashier flirt with me and another chick check me out.

I'm feeling fucking like a chode today though, work puts my mind in another place entirely, where I need to be logical and analytical. Of course that only affects my game negatively, I'm trying to restructure things to fix it. I won't give up.

Going to hit up a club tomorrow night and try my hardest. I need to get this shit down I'm so fucking desperate to suceed. I don't care if I literally get killed or die. It sounds crazy, but I mean it.

smile
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"Contrary to popular opinion, being an idiot, making mistakes and getting it all wrong are clear signs of somebody on the way to mastery of a skill" - Ozzie

"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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LethalLex

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Cool, looking good so far man.

What club were you at these nights?
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Tiger Tigerwink
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"Contrary to popular opinion, being an idiot, making mistakes and getting it all wrong are clear signs of somebody on the way to mastery of a skill" - Ozzie

"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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So I haven't gone out in quite a while due to being busy and due to ear pain. Not going out actually depresses me because I feel like I'm not growing and I really want to get this shit down.

However I value my health highly, also want to recover as quickly as possible, so I went to an ear specialist about my ears. He told me I've got ear trauma in my right ear and need to stay away from loud noise for a while. The good news is in the past 2 days I've felt almost no pain and my ears aren't nearly as sensitive as they were. I'm so fucking happy about this since it means I can soon start gaming again smile

Work's also been hectic, we've been so busy in the last 2 weeks but achieved so much.I'm fucking proud of me and my team. Unfortunately due to this I've had little or no time to game though. I know to be truly happy I need to live a balanced life  and spend more time on hobbies, people, dating/sex , gym, so I'm psyched to get back on track.

It's pretty cold today, so time to read a bit and chill out and hopefully learn something new.

Awesome.
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My London/Ozzie bootcamp review

"Contrary to popular opinion, being an idiot, making mistakes and getting it all wrong are clear signs of somebody on the way to mastery of a skill" - Ozzie

"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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LethalLex

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It's fucking cold today haha.

Guess where I'm going tonight though? ;)
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2011 journal ~ www.rsdnation.com/node/171403/forum

      2012 Journal ~ www.rsdnation.com/node/208885/forum

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@Lex, it start's with a T haha. Will check your field report when it's upwink
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"Contrary to popular opinion, being an idiot, making mistakes and getting it all wrong are clear signs of somebody on the way to mastery of a skill" - Ozzie

"The guys who are successful are guys who understand long term vision, pushing through restrictive emotions, and having a goal they want so badly that they'll do anything to get there -- day in and day out. OTOH, if you're like most guys who can't process beyond the next few minutes, your brain will hold you back because the immediacy of embaressment is more REAL to you than the long term goal." - Tyler
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