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December 7th, 2016
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 The last 6 months I've been out almost everyday, I went from being total UBER chode to being what i would consider pretty okay. I gave an explanation to untld about how
daygame works, and i figured i may as well post up what my interpretation of it is. Now keep in mind this is only a result of the last 6 months of being out, 6 months from now
I may have a totally different outlook on it, and so on and so forth. So let's go to it.

The Approach:

Most guys that first get into daygame find it much more difficult then club game. The reason they feel this way is because during the day there is a shitload more social pressure
then during the night. There is no music to cover up your speech, no fun environment to pump the girls state, nothing. If you get blown out then everyone around you will know what
you just said, and will know that you just got rejected. The beautiful thing about this one hurdle is that once you understand that the social pressure is all in your head, daygame is the
easiest shit in the world. No music to out stimulate, no guys trying AMOG you (at least most of the time), no girls coming to grab your girl saying "we're gonna go dance", NOTHING.
You literally become the most stimulating thing in the world, all you literally have to do is approach. During the day, approaching a girl = attraction, same thing during the night but theres a 
lot more stuff going on during the night.

Opening indirect
I'm not the biggest fan of opening indirect, it personally feels incongruent to me, but that doesn't mean I've never done it, so my experience with it. If you live in a not so busy place, or
if you find a girl thats doing a menial task, maybe shopping or something, then indirect openers are pretty good. In the right context, they're blowoutproof, when you open indirect girls are usually nice.
They will stay and chat because they think that that is all you want to do, they will be friendly and it is relatively easy to start talking about something else. Also if you open a girl indirect and game her
for an extended period of time, then get her number, the flake rate is much lower because well "it just happened". I'd recommend that guys that are new start doing indirect because it teaches you
how to be a lean mean approaching machine. The reason I don't like indirect game is because it takes a while to get a phone number, you have to stay in set much longer to get a chick then if
you went direct. Also if your walking through a downtown district and you meet a girl on her way to work, or just in a shitty mood, indirect is usually useless. Again this doesn't make indirect
inferior, indirect is great for places like subways, buses, classrooms, whatever, its under the radar and its fun. But on a busy street, or a busy shopping mall, it isnt stimulating enough. Some
will disagree, and I've had instances when that wasn't true, I'm just talking from experience. Because I'm a math nerd indirect game works like this


Attraction = xTime, Amount of attraction per unit of time can vary marginally as time continues.

Opening direct
I almost always go direct nowadays, its pretty awesome. When you roll up on a cutie and just let her know the deal right off the bat, you just see her reality get SHATTERED. What kind of dude
has the confidence to do that? What you essentially do is show her that you are a man that goes after what he wants, and that SPIKES up her attraction, ergo breaking her reality. Now most of the time
a girl will not know how to take this, sometimes she will smile and laugh, sometimes she will say thank you, sometimes she will walk away, sometimes she will say i have a bf. (if you get the bf objection 
your doing it right) Now your job after this point is to bring her back down to earth. This is where its okay to go into interview mode, just bring it back to her pace so she can keep up with you. Now opening 
direct generates A LOT of attraction, no matter which girl, however doing it this way cuts through the bullshit and sees if shes down or not. You will get blown out way more because you are just
expressing your intent, some girls have legit bfs, some girls arent in the mood, some girls have somewhere to be, some girls arent looking to fuck someone at that second, there are real constraints
during the daytime that you have to be conscious of. Don't worry about the blowouts, they mean just about the same as in nightgame, aka nothing. Me personally I barely get blown out anymore
because I tend to stop girls dead in their tracks and force them to give me their undivided attention. 


Direct game works more like this:

Attraction = .3cos(time) + 1


Alright so congrats, if you've read this part you know the different ways you can approach! Now what? Usually they will try to shit test you right off the bat, I usually get the "I have a bf" objection.
Shit tests are the easiest things in the world to pass, its just the constant onslaught of them is what throws most guys off. The best way to pass them is to stick to good old Alex~, its fine.
she has to go? its fine. shes got a bf? its fine, and just keep talking about something else. I'll give you an example, I opened a chick on the street a few days ago, and I had just watched slumdog
millionaire, so after I opened she told me she had a bf, to which I responded: cool, I kinda wanna just break out into song and start dancing. She laughed and asked me why, so I told her I
watched the movie, and she started laughing and said "I LOVE THAT MOVIE" and then we vibed off of that. Later on she told me she lied about the bf, to which I said oh alright cool. 
So as you can see I went direct, she tried bringing me down with a shit test, and I passed it, causing my attractiveness to go up, AND THEN we talked about normal shit, so I brought myself
down from the clouds and vibed on MY terms, not on hers. 

While your vibing you have to make sure your doing 1 thing and 1 thing only, GETTING PHYSICAL. I always incorporate hi fives, spin handshakes, everything, if I shake a girl's hand
I will hold it while gaming her. But lets say she REALLY has to go, I'll usually say "alright give me a hug so I don't go home and cry", she knows I'm too confident to actually go do that, but
she wants to have her body all over me. Occasionally, I'll be like "fuck it we'll never meet again", then MAKEOUTTTTTTT :), I go for A LOT of hugs, I'll do a whole bunch of stuff just to get that
physical rapport, which generates more attraction and AROUSAL. 

At the end of the interaction I will usually qualify the girl if I really like her for a reason besides her looks, maybe she's smart, or funny, or charming, or whatever, so I'll tell her thats why I like 
her and not because shes a SMOKESHOW. At this point if time is not on my side I will go for the phone number, the makeout, or whatever. If I can then I will always go for the insta date. 
Insta dates are the best ways to pull off of daygame. If you got a girl on an insta date, its on, all you need is to CLOSEEEEE, which I have not yet gotten consistent at
BUT IM GETTING THERE


So how do you get better fast?
Do this:
set up at least 2 days a week to do nothing but daygame
Every single day, no matter what, approach the first cute girl you see (unless at work, then do it or dont)
get used to being a super pimp at all times during the day
when you REALLY feel like shit, and you don't want to approach, do it.
Do these things until you hit 1000 approaches, then you should be awesome.

Until then have fun! :)
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Very interresting! How many sets do you have to open to get a phone number/ insta date?

How often do you get the BF objection and how often are you breaking through it?

Just looking for some points of reference there.

I have been doing daygame hardcore for 2 months now and getting quite a good amount of numbers from pretty girls, but still way too many flakes. What do you think could be the reason - could you comment on this thread of mine?:
 
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/226283/forum

I also find it interresting you go physical that hard during the day; I'm not doing that. How old are you btw?
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depends on how my day is, some days ill open 30 sets without a phone number or insta date, others ill open 22 and get all their numbers, its not so much a quantity issue,
if a girl is just feeling me in the right way then the insta date happens.

I'd say about 80% of girls tell me they have bfs, i get through it 100% of the time because i just make them sound silly for saying that, sometimes i run into loyal
girls that wont give out their numbers, which i totally respect, so instead i make them laugh and smile, that way if i approach at a later time and they got into a fight with bf, guess
whose gonna be pulling some ass devil


Dr Feelgood wrote:
Very interresting! How many sets do you have to open to get a phone number/ insta date?

How often do you get the BF objection and how often are you breaking through it?

Just looking for some points of reference there.

I have been doing daygame hardcore for 2 months now and getting quite a good amount of numbers from pretty girls, but still way too many flakes. What do you think could be the reason - could you comment on this thread of mine?:
 
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/226283/forum

I also find it interresting you go physical that hard during the day; I'm not doing that. How old are you btw?
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LOL i didnt even notice this until now, and he makes no sense
during the day most hot girls have bfs but during the night they don't? dude, a test is a test. if she tells you something to attempt to dissuade you from banging her, but she is still standing
there talking to you when she could easily walk away at any time, its a test. The matter of honesty is irrelevant, ive day2'd married chicks, engaged ones, bf ones, lesbians, all of them.
any reason they give is just utter nonsense, totally agree with mynameisjosh
MyNameIsJosh wrote:

NaturalMike wrote:
"BF objection" isn't a shit test most of the time . Most hot women have boyfriends

I think it helps to "view it as a shit test" than actually giving up and walking away...., but you have to acknowledge the fact that most hot chicks have boyfriends. So it's best to view it as a shit test even though it's a fact.

I think you make the whole day game concept a little too complicated. The only concept I follow on day game is 

"JUST OPEN, if she doesn't like you, move on!"

I rarely do day game now because I work full time, but I do day game every once in a while every saturday. There isn't many good day game spots... malls only have 2-3 girls you can open and your DONE. or it'll take you another 10-15 mins of walking around to find a viable set to open. I rarely do day game now, too many women are too uptight about their "bf objections", I mostly do night game where most women are single






It really is though. If she has a boyfriend and you're awesome enough she'll cheat. I fuck girls with boyfriends ALL the time. They tell me when I first talk to them that they have boyfriends. But the thought of them cheating with me turns me on rather then makes me sad that she's not single so telling me that doesn't dissuade me hahaha. Sometimes they won't even tell you until afterwards if at all. Don't think that just because she has one she's off limits. Unless Getting a girl to cheat goes against your moral code in which case she'll cheat with someone like me instead
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Nice!

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thanks for the post.
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