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Everyone here is looking for glamorous ways to get rich Like internet marketing, apps or the next big thing in entertainment...
Not enough people are looking for unconventional ways to make good money like working on offshore oil rigs or mining in western Australia...
for oil rigs - Oceaneering.com
for mining - Rio Tinto or BHP billiton
Stop looking for the easy way... Just work your ass off gain capital and invest those earnings wisely
Not enough people are looking for unconventional ways to make good money like working on offshore oil rigs or mining in western Australia...
for oil rigs - Oceaneering.com
for mining - Rio Tinto or BHP billiton
Stop looking for the easy way... Just work your ass off gain capital and invest those earnings wisely
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that's cool two step, but not many people can make GOOD money off IM, it takes a lot of time and dedication. Also, how stable would you be in 20-30 years doing IM?
With a regular job such as nursing/engineering/business/etc. You get 401k/dental/medical/a stable salary/etc etc.
Like i said, if IM was so popular, everyone would be doing it by now. But most people go to college, major in something lucrative, and have a normal job. That's how MOST people make it.
unless
1. you look like lebron james and make it in the NBA
2. become a famous actor and star in big movies
3. win the lotto
4. start your own business and hope you make profit(which 95% of people fail)
5. Gamble by trading/investing in the stock market
6. Know internet marketing/seo or have a popular youtube channel, partnered with google so you get a check every month from them
there are plenty of ways making money outside fo working a normal job. BUT most PEOPLE make money by actually working on a job. It's a stable income and a guaranteed salary.
the downside about making money OUTSIDE of working a 9 to 5 is the stableness of it. how long will you be making money 10 years down the road doing the same thing you are doing? With a 9 to 5 job, you will have a stable career. With passive income such as IM, it's hard to know where you will be at 10-20 years down the road.
btw, i make $20 an hour on an internship, once i'm hired, i will be making $100,000+ a year, that and 10-20 years down the raod, 150k+. So in the long run, i will probably make more moneythan the 98th percentile on people who's in internet marketing.
I for one don't do internet marketing because I don't have to. I'm already educated enough to not have to do it. Sure, the passive income might be good, but why put the effort when I already have a stable career? I would much rather use my downtime to pickup bitches from the club or save up $$ to go to europe.
So to MOST People here, If you want a sure-fire way to make lots of money. GO TO COLLEGE AND MAJOR IN SOMETHING THAT IS LUCRAtivE. IT'S A 100% GUARANTEED WAY TO INCREASE YOUR INCOME.
With a regular job such as nursing/engineering/business/etc. You get 401k/dental/medical/a stable salary/etc etc.
Like i said, if IM was so popular, everyone would be doing it by now. But most people go to college, major in something lucrative, and have a normal job. That's how MOST people make it.
unless
1. you look like lebron james and make it in the NBA
2. become a famous actor and star in big movies
3. win the lotto
4. start your own business and hope you make profit(which 95% of people fail)
5. Gamble by trading/investing in the stock market
6. Know internet marketing/seo or have a popular youtube channel, partnered with google so you get a check every month from them
there are plenty of ways making money outside fo working a normal job. BUT most PEOPLE make money by actually working on a job. It's a stable income and a guaranteed salary.
the downside about making money OUTSIDE of working a 9 to 5 is the stableness of it. how long will you be making money 10 years down the road doing the same thing you are doing? With a 9 to 5 job, you will have a stable career. With passive income such as IM, it's hard to know where you will be at 10-20 years down the road.
btw, i make $20 an hour on an internship, once i'm hired, i will be making $100,000+ a year, that and 10-20 years down the raod, 150k+. So in the long run, i will probably make more moneythan the 98th percentile on people who's in internet marketing.
I for one don't do internet marketing because I don't have to. I'm already educated enough to not have to do it. Sure, the passive income might be good, but why put the effort when I already have a stable career? I would much rather use my downtime to pickup bitches from the club or save up $$ to go to europe.
So to MOST People here, If you want a sure-fire way to make lots of money. GO TO COLLEGE AND MAJOR IN SOMETHING THAT IS LUCRAtivE. IT'S A 100% GUARANTEED WAY TO INCREASE YOUR INCOME.
Well these are good points, if your okay with working 9-5. I rather break away from the whole IM niche perspective, and rephrase this as a "make something that makes you money on your own terms". I will not take away your success or your points about college.
But what bothers me is you list all those things lke they are not possible for you. I don't see myself that way. I am that 1% of people that can and will do it =D. I'm sorry I don't consider myself average or held back by the fact that most people fail. I think it is a totally realistic goal of mine to own a multi million dollar company by the time I am 30.
People used to tell me I would never be good with girls..then they used to tell me I couldnt make money on my computer...then they told me I would never make a lot of money or write my own book or do anything that I have accomplished. If I had played it safe and never challenged the barriers you listed above, I would probably be unhappy, overworked, shell of who I am now. Yes 95% of people fail. I was in that 95% for a long time, I just chose to ignore it till I was in the 5%.
YES, I could go to college and major in something lucrative and make a 100g a year working on a oil rig. But I dont need 100g a year to be happy. I need my time and the feeling like I am doing something awesome with my life. I refuse to give up 5 days of my life for 2 days every week.
The thing is making money for me is NOT about making money. Its like playing a game and I want the high score. I want to create big businesses (IM is just my starting point). I want to have a big office with the Source Wave brand on the side of the building, and I want to create something that not only makes me millions, but impacts a ton of people. I want houses like you see in entourage and to enjoy things .0001% of people get to enjoy. I don't do IM to make an income, I do marketing because I have BIG fucking dreams and this feels like the right path to get there.
I dont do this to be passive either. I work hard..really hard. But I absolutely love it because every time I am done working, I know I have gotten just a little bit closer to my goals. I could NEVER get that feeling at a job. The only thing you get closer to is your next paycheck and a possible raise. That is like accepting to fuck 7's for the rest of your life because it is easier, instead taking risks and trying to fuck the 10's
My final opinion is, if you are doing something you DO NOT want to do, then you are settling
Its not about college or internet marketing, its about making life what you want it. The cold hard truth is that I have a VERY limited time on this planet and the last thing I am going to do is trade that very limited time I have doing anything but what I love
Steve Jobs could of made 100g out of college too by the way =D.
I am not saying anything you say is wrong... we just have different life goals. You are okay with settling, as long as your compensated well. I am not.
That is just my opinion though, and I think that is awesome that you are excited about your job. Congrats!
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Very cool twostep. Super interesting.
If you were to give youself advice starting out what advice would you give yourself now that youve been in the IM game for a while- and what material would you tell your self to read/watch starting out
I'm starting out and want to make myself a bunch of passive income
This is my understanding of it:
pick a niche
pick a prodcut for that niche
test the product
build a squeeze page that offers something free
send PPC traffic to the squeeze page
make a list of the emails you collect
keep in contact with your list and sell them shit that has to do with that niche
Thats what I got lol.
Where can I learn more, and do you have any advice for me?
I would tell myself to start making products (outside the IM niche) and research copywriting lol. I would also tell myself to find a person who is making A LOT of money online, and become there personal bitch for 6 months. I cannot begin to tell you how much interning for my now partner (Alex Cass) changed shit for me. I would also tell myself to make a LOAD of contacts in every nicheIf you were to give youself advice starting out what advice would you give yourself now that youve been in the IM game for a while- and what material would you tell your self to read/watch starting out
I'm starting out and want to make myself a bunch of passive income
This is my understanding of it:
pick a niche
pick a prodcut for that niche
test the product
build a squeeze page that offers something free
send PPC traffic to the squeeze page
make a list of the emails you collect
keep in contact with your list and sell them shit that has to do with that niche
Thats what I got lol.
Where can I learn more, and do you have any advice for me?
Yep sorta. SEO and PPC are great places to start. Once you get really good focus on making businesses though, and using your SEO and PPC skill to drive them.
My best advice is do not aim to be passive when you are starting off. Aim to become the greatest marketing genius the world has ever seen and LEARN everything. If you aim to be passive, it will drive you to learn just enough. Just enough is never just enough.
You can learn more at my blog (the giant signature)
But it sounds like you are into PPC. Get the course traffic black book. It is made by a friend name chad hamzeh. It is not the most exciting course, but chad covers every single thing in creating great PPC campaigns. The guy is also the real deal and one of the most down to earth average joes you will see in the IM world.
Also read
-Casvertising
-Ultimate sales letter
-Scientific Marketing
-Copywriters handbook
-Guerilla marketing
-Product launch formula (torrent it)
There is a lot more, but if you read/watch all those, you will be a shit hot dude. (Also the 4 hour work weeks and all those mental masterbation books are great reads, but they never made anyone rich. You need books that give you real marketing advice and have true educational value)
The library and your kindle are also your best friend. I know my partner literally spent 20 hours watching product launch courses this past week, and when he got started would spend days just reading and watching courses. Learn learn learn
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Thanks so much for the reply Two Step!
I'm going to check a lot of these things out as well as your blog.
I also just watched a couple hours of interenet marketing info on Tony Robins Ultimate business mastery program with The Zappos dude, eben pegan, and like 5 other IM guys - It was awesome. Video is my favorite way to learn.
When you say your partner literally spent 20 hours watching product lauch courses thie past week - makes me feel like I should do the same thing (not even positive as to what this even is) - I definietly learn best by watching videos of things being dont more so then I do from reading about how things ought to be done!
How do I get my hands on some of these hours of product launch courses?
Cheers.
I'm going to check a lot of these things out as well as your blog.
I also just watched a couple hours of interenet marketing info on Tony Robins Ultimate business mastery program with The Zappos dude, eben pegan, and like 5 other IM guys - It was awesome. Video is my favorite way to learn.
When you say your partner literally spent 20 hours watching product lauch courses thie past week - makes me feel like I should do the same thing (not even positive as to what this even is) - I definietly learn best by watching videos of things being dont more so then I do from reading about how things ought to be done!
How do I get my hands on some of these hours of product launch courses?
Cheers.
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Naturalmike, getting a regular job be it nursing or engineering will make you money buy you will only ever really be rich by the time you are 60. Big whoop.
Working for someone else means your getting paid for your time, and you only have a limited amount of time in each day.
So yeah, you can make money working a job, but if you use your brain a bit you'll figure out the real ballers are the guys who are at the top.
With the internet litterally in your pocket you have access to more information than any of the worlds richest guys of the pre internet age could dream of. So make it happen.
Settling for some job is the taking the easy way out and the fastest road to mediocrity.
If your fine with living a mediocre life, then do it. I'm just convinced that the guys on this forum are actually aiming to be better than the average person out there.
Working for someone else means your getting paid for your time, and you only have a limited amount of time in each day.
So yeah, you can make money working a job, but if you use your brain a bit you'll figure out the real ballers are the guys who are at the top.
With the internet litterally in your pocket you have access to more information than any of the worlds richest guys of the pre internet age could dream of. So make it happen.
Settling for some job is the taking the easy way out and the fastest road to mediocrity.
If your fine with living a mediocre life, then do it. I'm just convinced that the guys on this forum are actually aiming to be better than the average person out there.
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Holy shit Two Step thanks for all this info.
And thank you hamilton for asking the startup question, I wanted ask the same thing. My understanding of IM seems to be on par with yours hamilton, lol, altho not sure how significant that understanding is. Hit me up if you want to mastermind a little and potentially shorten this learning curve.
Im really interested in PPC also. At this point, organic traffic and SEO seems too slow to get any results, like too much work (updating with content all the time!?), and now too risky now that google has caught on and is doing these updates. I have a bit of captital to invest as well and want to get the ball rolling sooner than later, so PPC or some other form of paid traffic seems a lot better to me.
I have not attempted any actual IM yet. The first idea I read about that seemed good to me was this: Use paid traffic on a CPA email/zip submit offer. I don't know any specifics on how to do this yet, but I think I understand the basic idea of how it works. Something where you might spend 10K per month in traffic and recieve 14K in revenue/commisions, for a net monthly profit of 4K. I know it would prob take me a few tries to find an offer that actually converts like this. Do not know how much I'll have to lose in the process.. Anyone have experience with this type of campaign or know how feasible this idea is?
Also, Two Step, can I be your intern/pb for the next 6 months? lol.
I think I'm in a good spot to do it as I'm unemployed, eligible to collect the maximum unemployment benefits ($450/week), and have a bit of savings that should last me a while.
I tried the conventional go to college thing and was a mechanical engineer for 2.5 years.
The 9-5 (its usually actually 8-5 or even 7-4 in a lot of places), rush hour traffic, the cubicle, the constant feeling of being watched, the bosses who can't accurately evaluate your work, the bullshit busy work they'll give you just to undermine you, the office politics, the status quo, the feeling of being leveraged, the feeling of not being in control of your own destiny and living your life at the mercy of your boss, and the feeling of time famine and not being able to hardly travel anywhere because you only get two weeks vacation each year.... I could go on and on.
I NEVER want to go back to that.
I will if I have to, but I feel this is my chance to really hustle and set up a working lifestyle that is more forgiving, has more personal freedom, and compensates me more accurately.
I did a little research on IM, Forex trading, daytrading on the stock market, online poker all because they potentially offer a lifestyle with more freedom and are entrepreneurial. Right now IM is the looking the most enticing, winning over online poker by a small margin. The only thing that has stopped me from committing to learning and putting some serious time into online poker is that you cant do it in the states anymore.
Anyone here having success with online poker that could possibly comment on the lifestyle, difficulty, etc... ???
Also, how many successful IM'ers do you think are on this forum?
And thank you hamilton for asking the startup question, I wanted ask the same thing. My understanding of IM seems to be on par with yours hamilton, lol, altho not sure how significant that understanding is. Hit me up if you want to mastermind a little and potentially shorten this learning curve.
Im really interested in PPC also. At this point, organic traffic and SEO seems too slow to get any results, like too much work (updating with content all the time!?), and now too risky now that google has caught on and is doing these updates. I have a bit of captital to invest as well and want to get the ball rolling sooner than later, so PPC or some other form of paid traffic seems a lot better to me.
I have not attempted any actual IM yet. The first idea I read about that seemed good to me was this: Use paid traffic on a CPA email/zip submit offer. I don't know any specifics on how to do this yet, but I think I understand the basic idea of how it works. Something where you might spend 10K per month in traffic and recieve 14K in revenue/commisions, for a net monthly profit of 4K. I know it would prob take me a few tries to find an offer that actually converts like this. Do not know how much I'll have to lose in the process.. Anyone have experience with this type of campaign or know how feasible this idea is?
Also, Two Step, can I be your intern/pb for the next 6 months? lol.
I think I'm in a good spot to do it as I'm unemployed, eligible to collect the maximum unemployment benefits ($450/week), and have a bit of savings that should last me a while.
I tried the conventional go to college thing and was a mechanical engineer for 2.5 years.
The 9-5 (its usually actually 8-5 or even 7-4 in a lot of places), rush hour traffic, the cubicle, the constant feeling of being watched, the bosses who can't accurately evaluate your work, the bullshit busy work they'll give you just to undermine you, the office politics, the status quo, the feeling of being leveraged, the feeling of not being in control of your own destiny and living your life at the mercy of your boss, and the feeling of time famine and not being able to hardly travel anywhere because you only get two weeks vacation each year.... I could go on and on.
I NEVER want to go back to that.
I will if I have to, but I feel this is my chance to really hustle and set up a working lifestyle that is more forgiving, has more personal freedom, and compensates me more accurately.
I did a little research on IM, Forex trading, daytrading on the stock market, online poker all because they potentially offer a lifestyle with more freedom and are entrepreneurial. Right now IM is the looking the most enticing, winning over online poker by a small margin. The only thing that has stopped me from committing to learning and putting some serious time into online poker is that you cant do it in the states anymore.
Anyone here having success with online poker that could possibly comment on the lifestyle, difficulty, etc... ???
Also, how many successful IM'ers do you think are on this forum?
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Hamilton- use google and start looking up courses on the subject. Read threads on the WF about the best courses you can take in certain subjects
1985- For the intern thing, I will probably have you assisting some of my other employees and handling my basic SEO/site promotion. You can pm me and we will talk about this and I will see if you are a good fit. No guarantees
SEO can get really fast results if you are able to pinpoint truly untapped markets. The reason why people usually fail at it is they are doing the same ol shit everyone esle is doing, and diving into extremely unprofitable and competitive niches (aka people making recipe sites and stuff based on niches that make no money)
On the cpa stuff, yeah that can work. Ive always done PPC in the dating niche almost exclusively.
For the last questions, the only ones I know are myself, natalex, android, manwhore, alejandro, and fingerman. Theres no shortage of people who have views on it though! =D
1985- For the intern thing, I will probably have you assisting some of my other employees and handling my basic SEO/site promotion. You can pm me and we will talk about this and I will see if you are a good fit. No guarantees
SEO can get really fast results if you are able to pinpoint truly untapped markets. The reason why people usually fail at it is they are doing the same ol shit everyone esle is doing, and diving into extremely unprofitable and competitive niches (aka people making recipe sites and stuff based on niches that make no money)
On the cpa stuff, yeah that can work. Ive always done PPC in the dating niche almost exclusively.
For the last questions, the only ones I know are myself, natalex, android, manwhore, alejandro, and fingerman. Theres no shortage of people who have views on it though! =D
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Its not hard to rank high when you have an exact long tail keyword match. Hell one of my little projects, I put a shit website with NO seo at all (link building etc), is #2 on google for the phrase. Its a 3 page minisite with ads and no real info. Basically garbage, but since its exact match not hard to rank high. Makes decent money from "google paid search" i put when I said "Search our inventory" (LOL).
Would be interested to see a non match exact domain. Oops let the cat ouf of the bag ;).
How's Mr. Penguin doing for you? Have two drinkin buddies proffesional SEO guys, said their revs fell 60%+ after the update. Google bitch slapped them to floor.
All the traffic on Source Wave is from paid traffic to opt ins, product launches and partnering with other marketers.
My first success was actually CF.com http://collegeflirt.net/.
I made the site eventually become worth a ton with the content and SEO traffic (type in "how to fuck a girl" in google and watch the first youtube vid) I later sold the site for a 5 figure sum.
After that, found a system to rank websites first page in about a week in Google. I showed this off a little bit on LB, on sites like Turkey burgers. However, turkey burgers (now dead) was a demo site I made to show people. I mostly found abstract niches (adult, health related, and foreign), then grabbed all the keywords and made large authority sites. I kept a few and sold most of them.
I then also started a local SEO company. I sell SEO services to local businesses. The company was named surge wolf (http://surgewolf.com/). In about 3 months time, my average montly earning were about 4-6 k per month depending on clients leaving and coming
As for the 30,000 in one month, that is myself and alex cass combine. It is actually past 40, but 40k a month does not sound believable in a ad. The 30s came from my income+me selling one of my large sites for 8k+and Cass's monthly income during + a product launch. It was a good month
So in short, before the LB I was making about 3-4k a month. from IM, Before Source Wave I was making about 5-6.
Right now, without make money online stuff, I will make about 9k a month from websites and doing local SEO/marketing.(and some PPC) If I sell a business then that of course goes WAY up.........Also would like to state that my income is not passive AT ALL. I work my ass off regardless if I am making money or not.
Source Wave stuff really only bring me about 2k a month on a good month. You have to remember, I am not launching $2k master mind courses every other month and making $80 CB products. Most of the info I share you can get for 10 bucks or for free on my site. On top of that MOST of it has a 100% commission affiliate program. I make products to grow my blog...not make money =D
I hope that clears all questions of my income up, and that you will be a tad nicer to me =D. If you REALLY need proof, here is a picture of my paypal after I sold a busines+ me beating MAJOR authority sites in google (#2 for a very interesting keyword related to yeast infections) + a screenshot of my one month earnings from a authority site I own.
Hope that helps alien! As you can see, my selling of IM products is actually where I make the least income =D
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Yes I am well aware that making money in "make money online niche" is considered not real IM/sketchy as hell.
But step back from that point of view and look at the niche it self. It is EXTREMELY competive, expensive to get into requires some bad ass marketing skills (building affiliates, creating loyalty, copywriting, product creation) to even get into. Trust me I have the same view on most WSOs and make money online courses, but the skill set that it takes to launch products in the IM niche is the SAME skill set it takes to make products in any niche. Just keep that in mind =D
I am actually taking my product creation skills into some other niches right now. I will let you know how that works out..lol
Would be interested to see a non match exact domain. Oops let the cat ouf of the bag ;).
How's Mr. Penguin doing for you? Have two drinkin buddies proffesional SEO guys, said their revs fell 60%+ after the update. Google bitch slapped them to floor.
What's the online business you sold? URL?
I'm guessing you generate all that traffic to source wave through email marketing?
It has no PR as I mentioned but it does have a pretty damn good Alexa ranking (better than thelinkback, which does have a PR but about 2x lower alexa ranking), which is interesting - so I'm thinking emails...
What I'm wondering is, have you been succesful OUTSIDE of the "make money" niche? In other words, have you either made or promoted a product or ran a blog (not in the money niche) with an ad server and made 10k+ in a month BEFORE thelinkback / wavesource / other make money niche site?
If you have (and can prove it with a URL) then I'll stfu and declare you king all mighty. And if you don't want to do that (although I know no reason why you wouldn't share the URL's I requested) at least tells us the niche in which you made this alleged 10k+, or the 30k as in your sig and how (own product, adsense, affiliate commission, etc).
Now alien, if you were able to do semi decent researc you would notice I do not promote, do SEO, or do much of anything beside post content on Source Wave. In fact the link in my sig is one of 3 links I have ever posted to promote Source Wave.
That might explain why it has no PR or alexa ranking you silly baboon. If you learn a bit more, you might be able to find out how these site gets traffic WITHOUT google or promotion. Good luck!
Ha as long as your promise to be more civil with me for now on I am more than happy to back up what I say.I'm guessing you generate all that traffic to source wave through email marketing?
It has no PR as I mentioned but it does have a pretty damn good Alexa ranking (better than thelinkback, which does have a PR but about 2x lower alexa ranking), which is interesting - so I'm thinking emails...
What I'm wondering is, have you been succesful OUTSIDE of the "make money" niche? In other words, have you either made or promoted a product or ran a blog (not in the money niche) with an ad server and made 10k+ in a month BEFORE thelinkback / wavesource / other make money niche site?
If you have (and can prove it with a URL) then I'll stfu and declare you king all mighty. And if you don't want to do that (although I know no reason why you wouldn't share the URL's I requested) at least tells us the niche in which you made this alleged 10k+, or the 30k as in your sig and how (own product, adsense, affiliate commission, etc).
Be wary of any internet marketer selling you a "system" they are mostly all full of shit, including dude up top. I'd also be wary of a website with a decent alexa ranking, hes around 42k, but has 0/10 google PR.
Eh not gonna bullshit anyone, I do make good money teaching people how to do what I do. On the flip side, I made 25g+ last month selling a online business I started and signed a very large corporate marketing contract, so I also make money ..well...doing what I do...lol. The fact that many people have found success with stuff I have taught (including one of my best friends) makes me feel pretty danm good too =D. So I gotta say I am proud to be a source of information (and I LOVE teaching people so its fun as hell to)Now alien, if you were able to do semi decent researc you would notice I do not promote, do SEO, or do much of anything beside post content on Source Wave. In fact the link in my sig is one of 3 links I have ever posted to promote Source Wave.
That might explain why it has no PR or alexa ranking you silly baboon. If you learn a bit more, you might be able to find out how these site gets traffic WITHOUT google or promotion. Good luck!
All the traffic on Source Wave is from paid traffic to opt ins, product launches and partnering with other marketers.
My first success was actually CF.com http://collegeflirt.net/.
I made the site eventually become worth a ton with the content and SEO traffic (type in "how to fuck a girl" in google and watch the first youtube vid) I later sold the site for a 5 figure sum.
After that, found a system to rank websites first page in about a week in Google. I showed this off a little bit on LB, on sites like Turkey burgers. However, turkey burgers (now dead) was a demo site I made to show people. I mostly found abstract niches (adult, health related, and foreign), then grabbed all the keywords and made large authority sites. I kept a few and sold most of them.
I then also started a local SEO company. I sell SEO services to local businesses. The company was named surge wolf (http://surgewolf.com/). In about 3 months time, my average montly earning were about 4-6 k per month depending on clients leaving and coming
As for the 30,000 in one month, that is myself and alex cass combine. It is actually past 40, but 40k a month does not sound believable in a ad. The 30s came from my income+me selling one of my large sites for 8k+and Cass's monthly income during + a product launch. It was a good month
So in short, before the LB I was making about 3-4k a month. from IM, Before Source Wave I was making about 5-6.
Right now, without make money online stuff, I will make about 9k a month from websites and doing local SEO/marketing.(and some PPC) If I sell a business then that of course goes WAY up.........Also would like to state that my income is not passive AT ALL. I work my ass off regardless if I am making money or not.
Source Wave stuff really only bring me about 2k a month on a good month. You have to remember, I am not launching $2k master mind courses every other month and making $80 CB products. Most of the info I share you can get for 10 bucks or for free on my site. On top of that MOST of it has a 100% commission affiliate program. I make products to grow my blog...not make money =D
I hope that clears all questions of my income up, and that you will be a tad nicer to me =D. If you REALLY need proof, here is a picture of my paypal after I sold a busines+ me beating MAJOR authority sites in google (#2 for a very interesting keyword related to yeast infections) + a screenshot of my one month earnings from a authority site I own.
Hope that helps alien! As you can see, my selling of IM products is actually where I make the least income =D
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Yes I am well aware that making money in "make money online niche" is considered not real IM/sketchy as hell.
But step back from that point of view and look at the niche it self. It is EXTREMELY competive, expensive to get into requires some bad ass marketing skills (building affiliates, creating loyalty, copywriting, product creation) to even get into. Trust me I have the same view on most WSOs and make money online courses, but the skill set that it takes to launch products in the IM niche is the SAME skill set it takes to make products in any niche. Just keep that in mind =D
I am actually taking my product creation skills into some other niches right now. I will let you know how that works out..lol
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Papa Stockholm Bootcamp - 11/21-23/2007!
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32 F-Close
2010: 7 Lays, 2011: 9 Lays. 2012: Who knows?
My Life Journal
I am Asian and I fuck and date Blondes.
If I can do it, YOU, especially my fellow asian brothers, can do it!
Papa Stockholm Bootcamp - 11/21-23/2007!
Post Boot Camp:
32 F-Close
2010: 7 Lays, 2011: 9 Lays. 2012: Who knows?
My Life Journal
I am Asian and I fuck and date Blondes.
If I can do it, YOU, especially my fellow asian brothers, can do it!
Sexyasian
What has worked for me time and time again is not trying to be a SEO hero, but consistently finding abstract or super untapped niches and exploiting them. It has also worked for many people I have taught. Why do things the hard way when you dont have to =D. My bank account doesnt care how easy the keywords I rank for are, just the money they make =D
On the penguin. I had been reading up on the upcoming updates for quite a bit of time before they happened. My main money sites are branded large sites that people actually use (like CF) and I swapped to a social media based strategy on them quite some time ago. However a lot of my smaller sites or sites I had been ignoring got smacked off the face of the earth. With my offline clients, I set up a local super private blog network for them, so they actually got a boost
What has worked for me time and time again is not trying to be a SEO hero, but consistently finding abstract or super untapped niches and exploiting them. It has also worked for many people I have taught. Why do things the hard way when you dont have to =D. My bank account doesnt care how easy the keywords I rank for are, just the money they make =D
On the penguin. I had been reading up on the upcoming updates for quite a bit of time before they happened. My main money sites are branded large sites that people actually use (like CF) and I swapped to a social media based strategy on them quite some time ago. However a lot of my smaller sites or sites I had been ignoring got smacked off the face of the earth. With my offline clients, I set up a local super private blog network for them, so they actually got a boost
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hamiltonontariopua
Respected Member
Join Date: 10/06/2011 | Posts: 421
If you were to give youself advice starting out what advice would you give yourself now that youve been in the IM game for a while- and what material would you tell your self to read/watch starting out
I'm starting out and want to make myself a bunch of passive income
This is my understanding of it:
pick a niche
pick a prodcut for that niche
test the product
build a squeeze page that offers something free
send PPC traffic to the squeeze page
make a list of the emails you collect
keep in contact with your list and sell them shit that has to do with that niche
Thats what I got lol.
Where can I learn more, and do you have any advice for me?