THE FORUMS
One of my mates is a party animal, he is hammered drunk, says he looks like some A list star, and he calls out women all the time.
The end results in them leaving after being embarrassed before messaging him to come over later and promising to swallow.
It defies all logic and while, he is intuitive enough with some natural game, it is not quite conventional, and he rides his looks.
I had a dry spell around the time I thought I contracted a std which turned out negative but, resulted in testicular cancer of a nut.
Feels bad man. So there I am on a dry spell since, I stopped fucking the women I had since, I thought I might had a std.
Sluts being in their nature to slut around end up doing just that so, I enter a dry spell.
This same mate says the samething before bumping the nudes he kept getting. She kept begging him to come over.
He says he has no game, and that, if he has to put in any effort, he is out. I have never see him pull a one night stand or ever work cold approach.
He pulls more then most people I know or have met. Its actually kind of a mind fuck wondering how it works for him.
The end results in them leaving after being embarrassed before messaging him to come over later and promising to swallow.
It defies all logic and while, he is intuitive enough with some natural game, it is not quite conventional, and he rides his looks.
I had a dry spell around the time I thought I contracted a std which turned out negative but, resulted in testicular cancer of a nut.
Feels bad man. So there I am on a dry spell since, I stopped fucking the women I had since, I thought I might had a std.
Sluts being in their nature to slut around end up doing just that so, I enter a dry spell.
This same mate says the samething before bumping the nudes he kept getting. She kept begging him to come over.
He says he has no game, and that, if he has to put in any effort, he is out. I have never see him pull a one night stand or ever work cold approach.
He pulls more then most people I know or have met. Its actually kind of a mind fuck wondering how it works for him.
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.

Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.

To be honest I don't consider the ones who get hammered and approach girls as naturals. If they are naturals why need alcohol? (Thanks Julien...) I dig the one who approaches all the time though ;)
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To be honest I don't consider the ones who get hammered and approach girls as naturals. If they are naturals why need alcohol? (Thanks Julien...) I dig the one who approaches all the time though ;)
One question; is kacimaxime one of these guys by any chance?
Not sure who that is? So you mean to say, a natural is a alcohol virigin? One question; is kacimaxime one of these guys by any chance?

Natural to me is anyone who pulls with regular consistency and no pua involvement.
Another one of my mates went up to a stunner, pretty much force fed her grey goose chanting juice time, she declined, and rejected his advances.
He called her out coming out for spring break? He challenged her by calling out her sense of adventure?
She said she is but, doesn't want to drink in which, he just said "Your no fun. I can't even talk to you," back turned on her to her mates but, cutting her off from the group.
It was bloody brilliant to watch. He spits game at them, they love him off, he waves me over, we go to have shots, and stunner who couldn't drink does.
I check into my hotel, meet back at his room, and he has already kicked her out of the shower. Same female that 45minutes before said she couldn't drink he just pulled.
His game is second to none I have seen and let me say, associating with both these lads is a thing of beauty, and quite refreshing even if we do not pull, good times are had by all.
On spring break, we have gone away, and I have never seen pulling on this level. He is even more cheeky then I am but, it comes with the territory I believe.
In the past four years, I can only remember him going out, and not pulling once on spring break, and he was knackered with jet leg.
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.

Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.

You got it twisted man. I don't drink personally, because I don't like drinking... If I liked it, I would.
Naturals drink because they go out to have fun and girls are a supplement to their fun. They don't go out to pick up strictly (which is kind of weird, when you think about it: go out and have fun with friends AND get laid [natural way] OR go out and maybe have fun or fake having fun TO get laid [PUA way]). Most of them go out with their buddies, have a great time, and afterwards sex a chick.
And, after all is said and done, pussy = pussy. The vagina does not tighten itself up because it knows you EARNED IT SOBER.
PS: these naturals you complain about needing liquor to talk to girls, they are usually the same guys who are fucking girls at work, school, and during the day as well. The night life is designed for liquor to be consumed... that's why everyone is drunk outside of pick-up dudes and people like me who just don't react well to alcohol..
Not everyone who drinks has a weak reality. Some just find it fun. Julien is only targeting the guys who NEED to drink to get over their fear of women or to access their personality.
Naturals drink because they go out to have fun and girls are a supplement to their fun. They don't go out to pick up strictly (which is kind of weird, when you think about it: go out and have fun with friends AND get laid [natural way] OR go out and maybe have fun or fake having fun TO get laid [PUA way]). Most of them go out with their buddies, have a great time, and afterwards sex a chick.
And, after all is said and done, pussy = pussy. The vagina does not tighten itself up because it knows you EARNED IT SOBER.
PS: these naturals you complain about needing liquor to talk to girls, they are usually the same guys who are fucking girls at work, school, and during the day as well. The night life is designed for liquor to be consumed... that's why everyone is drunk outside of pick-up dudes and people like me who just don't react well to alcohol..
Not everyone who drinks has a weak reality. Some just find it fun. Julien is only targeting the guys who NEED to drink to get over their fear of women or to access their personality.
To be honest I don't consider the ones who get hammered and approach girls as naturals. If they are naturals why need alcohol? (Thanks Julien...) I dig the one who approaches all the time though ;)
One question; is kacimaxime one of these guys by any chance?
One question; is kacimaxime one of these guys by any chance?
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Paris mate, Distantlight and you are among those I like to see post cause, it is quite refreshing, and our views on this are quite similar.
I think too much community obsession can really bring a man down and even weird which maybe the case with a lot of lairs or hard core community members. I tend to go spans and spurts in between here.
A forum vacation is probably good for the soul every so often and not through being forced ie banned temporarily or permanently.
Mate, I could not agree and I would be quite outraged if one of the community members or fella mates ever did me dirty like that. I think it should be edited out.
I am very keen on my anonymity around here. One minute your a star, people are on your nuts in this bitch, and the next, you got a group outraged or on a hate train. I view it all with complete and utter disregard.
That said, I couldn't agree with you mate, and if and when I am next in Paris, we should definitely be out pulling SMOKE SHOWs.
I felt compelled to increase font size on what really stood out to me.
I think this here is spot on with naturals, with group dynamics, and high value associations.
It is mind blowing and it says a lot about a man based upon who he associates with from day one.
Majority of my mates that are natural are fairly good looking if not really good looking. Quite competant, out going, fun to be around, and overly forward.
The one mate that drinks heavily is just funny referring himself to being a Alister look alike (I more recently introduce myself as black brad pitt totally self amusing), he even calls them out if parameters are breached or patience tested.
I have lost count of times where he has kicked a woman out of his car, out of a public bar, club or washroom (not that he has the authurity to do so but he does it anyway), and even clowns some women when in the right.
Another mate, like one I mentioned above is attractive, well liked, tight game, very well spoken, got a lot going for him, touches dirt, and it becomes gold. This fella is brilliant.
On spring break, where I may have pulled a few girls or had a few prospects in pursuit, this cheeky cunt would have a fucking two rammed pack airport vans full all headed for the club.
The amount of probability of this fella pulling is astounding and I have not seen this before. We were on our way to a club, we had a two full taxi vans this one time going. Cab said to kick some girls out. Not enough room.
My mate told all the girls to get out of the van and the other van, we'll take a new one. And the girls climb out.

The cabbie apoligized, begged for us to get back in, and said he would even discount us into the venues we were headed to which were rammed pack (American spring break season).
Paris, saying I do alright with the girls is a bit of a understatement but, this fella is pretty crazy and it is mind blowing to witness.
Natural Ambiguity < Learning game Ambiguity
but but but
Natural Ambiguity > obsessed with PUA Ambiguity
I found too much pick up just fucks you up and really had me trying so hard to out do myself and a forum thread out there on about being out of fucking control was what followed not to mention a missing testicle. I did believe it was karma and based upon my actions and lack their of spirituality. I believe Madison said its a rock between a hard place when attempting to manage both.
Then there is the, you can't be half a gangster, not any more bid!
I think too much community obsession can really bring a man down and even weird which maybe the case with a lot of lairs or hard core community members. I tend to go spans and spurts in between here.
A forum vacation is probably good for the soul every so often and not through being forced ie banned temporarily or permanently.
Mate, I could not agree and I would be quite outraged if one of the community members or fella mates ever did me dirty like that. I think it should be edited out.
I am very keen on my anonymity around here. One minute your a star, people are on your nuts in this bitch, and the next, you got a group outraged or on a hate train. I view it all with complete and utter disregard.
To be honest I don't consider the ones who get hammered and approach girls as naturals. If they are naturals why need alcohol? (Thanks Julien...) I dig the one who approaches all the time though ;)
Why not ? They don't NEED alcohol, they're just having fun, and that means also drinking alcohol.
ambiguity's definition is on point here: natural = a guy who fucks new women consistently without any knowledge of the PUA community.
I remember when I saw NUMBER 6 at the supermarket, approaching nonchalantly a group of 5 cute girls: he didn't drink alcohol, and he managed to fuck the girl from the group he was fond of.
One question; is one of these guys by any chance?
Nope.jpg about him.
Also do you know him ? Because if you do you'd know he doesn't live in my city (Paris as in Paris Boum Boum), and if you don't well it's weird to put names on an anonymous forum.
I myself want to stay as anonymous as possible. That's one of the reason why I don't meet other PUAs (except a few chosen ones), and why I am not involved in the inner circle shit (which could be pretty cool actually). There's no way anybody would know who I am referring to.
But most importantly for you and other readers, those naturals are EVERYWHERE. I don't know if it's just me, but many more people that you think actually have some game, and amongst them a good part likes to push it as far as they can.
FIY I wouldn't have thought any of those guys I am talking about was a pimp when I met them (except n.2).
It reflects your knowledge of the game. If you think flashy gets you laid, you'll only notice the flashy guys. If you think good looks get you laid, you only notice the good looking guys. But when you realize that deeper qualities - such as being centered, having a strong sense of self, positivity and addiction to good emotions - are what makes someone attractive, you finally notice those guys.
The shorter road is to spend nights with them, and see what happens.
Why not ? They don't NEED alcohol, they're just having fun, and that means also drinking alcohol.
ambiguity's definition is on point here: natural = a guy who fucks new women consistently without any knowledge of the PUA community.
I remember when I saw NUMBER 6 at the supermarket, approaching nonchalantly a group of 5 cute girls: he didn't drink alcohol, and he managed to fuck the girl from the group he was fond of.
One question; is one of these guys by any chance?
Nope.jpg about him.
Also do you know him ? Because if you do you'd know he doesn't live in my city (Paris as in Paris Boum Boum), and if you don't well it's weird to put names on an anonymous forum.
I myself want to stay as anonymous as possible. That's one of the reason why I don't meet other PUAs (except a few chosen ones), and why I am not involved in the inner circle shit (which could be pretty cool actually). There's no way anybody would know who I am referring to.
But most importantly for you and other readers, those naturals are EVERYWHERE. I don't know if it's just me, but many more people that you think actually have some game, and amongst them a good part likes to push it as far as they can.
FIY I wouldn't have thought any of those guys I am talking about was a pimp when I met them (except n.2).
It reflects your knowledge of the game. If you think flashy gets you laid, you'll only notice the flashy guys. If you think good looks get you laid, you only notice the good looking guys. But when you realize that deeper qualities - such as being centered, having a strong sense of self, positivity and addiction to good emotions - are what makes someone attractive, you finally notice those guys.
The shorter road is to spend nights with them, and see what happens.
I felt compelled to increase font size on what really stood out to me.
I think this here is spot on with naturals, with group dynamics, and high value associations.
It is mind blowing and it says a lot about a man based upon who he associates with from day one.
Majority of my mates that are natural are fairly good looking if not really good looking. Quite competant, out going, fun to be around, and overly forward.
The one mate that drinks heavily is just funny referring himself to being a Alister look alike (I more recently introduce myself as black brad pitt totally self amusing), he even calls them out if parameters are breached or patience tested.
I have lost count of times where he has kicked a woman out of his car, out of a public bar, club or washroom (not that he has the authurity to do so but he does it anyway), and even clowns some women when in the right.
Another mate, like one I mentioned above is attractive, well liked, tight game, very well spoken, got a lot going for him, touches dirt, and it becomes gold. This fella is brilliant.
On spring break, where I may have pulled a few girls or had a few prospects in pursuit, this cheeky cunt would have a fucking two rammed pack airport vans full all headed for the club.
The amount of probability of this fella pulling is astounding and I have not seen this before. We were on our way to a club, we had a two full taxi vans this one time going. Cab said to kick some girls out. Not enough room.
My mate told all the girls to get out of the van and the other van, we'll take a new one. And the girls climb out.


The cabbie apoligized, begged for us to get back in, and said he would even discount us into the venues we were headed to which were rammed pack (American spring break season).
Paris, saying I do alright with the girls is a bit of a understatement but, this fella is pretty crazy and it is mind blowing to witness.
Natural Ambiguity < Learning game Ambiguity
but but but
Natural Ambiguity > obsessed with PUA Ambiguity
I found too much pick up just fucks you up and really had me trying so hard to out do myself and a forum thread out there on about being out of fucking control was what followed not to mention a missing testicle. I did believe it was karma and based upon my actions and lack their of spirituality. I believe Madison said its a rock between a hard place when attempting to manage both.
Then there is the, you can't be half a gangster, not any more bid!
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.

Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.

To be honest I don't consider the ones who get hammered and approach girls as naturals. If they are naturals why need alcohol? (Thanks Julien...) I dig the one who approaches all the time though ;)
Why not ? They don't NEED alcohol, they're just having fun, and that means also drinking alcohol.
ambiguity's definition is on point here: natural = a guy who fucks new women consistently without any knowledge of the PUA community.
I remember when I saw NUMBER 6 at the supermarket, approaching nonchalantly a group of 5 cute girls: he didn't drink alcohol, and he managed to fuck the girl from the group he was fond of.
But most importantly for you and other readers, those naturals are EVERYWHERE. I don't know if it's just me, but many more people that you think actually have some game, and amongst them a good part likes to push it as far as they can.
FIY I wouldn't have thought any of those guys I am talking about was a pimp when I met them (except n.2).
It reflects your knowledge of the game. If you think flashy gets you laid, you'll only notice the flashy guys. If you think good looks get you laid, you only notice the good looking guys. But when you realize that deeper qualities - such as being centered, having a strong sense of self, positivity and addiction to good emotions - are what makes someone attractive, you finally notice those guys.
The shorter road is to spend nights with them, and see what happens.
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Why not ? They don't NEED alcohol, they're just having fun, and that means also drinking alcohol.
ambiguity's definition is on point here: natural = a guy who fucks new women consistently without any knowledge of the PUA community.
I remember when I saw NUMBER 6 at the supermarket, approaching nonchalantly a group of 5 cute girls: he didn't drink alcohol, and he managed to fuck the girl from the group he was fond of.
But most importantly for you and other readers, those naturals are EVERYWHERE. I don't know if it's just me, but many more people that you think actually have some game, and amongst them a good part likes to push it as far as they can.
FIY I wouldn't have thought any of those guys I am talking about was a pimp when I met them (except n.2).
It reflects your knowledge of the game. If you think flashy gets you laid, you'll only notice the flashy guys. If you think good looks get you laid, you only notice the good looking guys. But when you realize that deeper qualities - such as being centered, having a strong sense of self, positivity and addiction to good emotions - are what makes someone attractive, you finally notice those guys.
The shorter road is to spend nights with them, and see what happens.
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First and most importantly the name is gone. For some reason I thought it was his nickname as well so please click on edit and delete the names on your quotes
I'm talking about the core confidence here. To me a natural is the person who does whatever he wants to do under any circumstances. I know many guys who pulls regularly from bars and clubs under the influence of alcohol but they literally shake next to a girl during the day time. Isn't it the difference of situational confidence and the core confidence that tyler talks during the blueprint? That is why I said I like the one who approaches everywhere. In regards to the others I'm sure they have some tight game and if they do it without alcohol, big time!! Also there is no rule that it doesn't count when you pull under the influence of alcohol. Don't worry I respect them all ;)
I know that the naturals are everywhere. I know some of them and guess what you don't even notice them on a normal day. Often times they don't even talk about the girls they bang. Why?? It is just normal for them, part of their life. I didn't even mention anything about naturals :) having considered me not mentioning anything about naturals and you becoming protective and criticising my game knowledge based on a non existing comment is highly creative though.
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Now, before anyone attempts to steer what I said else where, I feel the need to say, no matter how good a person is naturally, you can still improve.
I am not the same man who started here once upon a time. I am but, I am not. I have gotten better, I am aware, and self assured of what my capabilities are.
I find with naturals, they are less inclined to obsess, more keen on pulling instead of preaching "read ecky bro," and or lacking originality.
Most tend to be ingrained with their own frame of mind which is quite refreshing.
He informed me of something I now do all the time and it never fails to lead me to pull.
The coolest thing about it was that, they are unaware of what escalation is but, they do stuff that is just that without thinking.
I have way out done myself and natural abilities sometime ago.
Still, there are tons of great people out there in the community, and I see video blogs here that resonate since, I have experienced it though, I may not have interpreted it as how Tyler or what a instructor had.
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/163399?page=4
This thread is a perfect example of what the instructors have to offer.
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.