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underneath it all talking about that kind of stuff is just plain boring. It also sounds like you're trying to go 'in' with these conversations, pre-planned, maybe 30 secs before -
Hot tip - expensive vodka is not interesting, it just gets you drunk.
However, if you related that back to sex and started takling about sex and vodka, and link them up - ( be creative) it might get a bit more interesting.
The real reason this thread was started (it sounds like)
"Why doesn't my flashy money conversations get girls wet?" - Girls don't really give a shit unless it's funny or interesting.
Hot tip - expensive vodka is not interesting, it just gets you drunk.
However, if you related that back to sex and started takling about sex and vodka, and link them up - ( be creative) it might get a bit more interesting.
The real reason this thread was started (it sounds like)
"Why doesn't my flashy money conversations get girls wet?" - Girls don't really give a shit unless it's funny or interesting.
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But those things are coincidentally flashy, but compared to rich dudes it is crappy, but to the common girl my stuff is still flashy and a turn down.
But those things are coincidentally flashy, but compared to rich dudes it is crappy, but to the common girl my stuff is still flashy and a turn down.
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Why bother talking about this shit to women? You should focus on more man to woman communication, more flirting, more sexual energy.
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the vodka talk shouldn't be a big deal, neither should the concert talk.... just be comfortable with yourself. If you feel snobby and judgemental, it WILL come off that way. That's it. Now we all know judgemental is bad because girls won't put out if they feel like they are being judged... so yea stop being a snobby bitch. Nothing wrong with talking about vodka and concerts though.
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I have 'some' money as well. I just say I drive a used sedan instead of mentioning brands or anything lame. I say I live in an old house.
I sometimes get asked if I make alot and i just say I make enough to cover my bills.
I sometimes get asked if I make alot and i just say I make enough to cover my bills.
I have 'some' money as well. I just say I drive a used sedan instead of mentioning brands or anything lame. I say I live in an old house.
I sometimes get asked if I make alot and i just say I make enough to cover my bills.
If a girl ever asks me how much money I make she is basically getting insta-nexted. Unless she is sucking my dick while she asks the question, then I will let her finish. I sometimes get asked if I make alot and i just say I make enough to cover my bills.
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I don't understand how you guys are accidentally bragging about money. It's the bragging that turns women off. A woman isn't gonna be turned off just because you have money. That makes no fucking sense. Just don't brag.
When she says she likes XYZ band, dont answer " I actually saw them 3 times this year". Why do you need to put out a number without her asking how many times youve seen them? Just say yeah Ive seen them live and its awesome etc etc. stay in the moment and go where the value is. i.e. talking about that band or whatever. Going into your head to count how many times youve seen them is actually a very subtle way of qualifiying. I find myself doing that a lot and I hate it lol.
As for the expensive vodka if she talks about how expensive it is or whatever just bring it back to what you said about it not giving you a hangover, etc.
As for the expensive vodka if she talks about how expensive it is or whatever just bring it back to what you said about it not giving you a hangover, etc.
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Adapting yourself to that is:
A) Reactive to the girls
B) Lacking self-esteem
-- if you're avoiding subjects, or adapting tonality to get results you need; you're being reactive -- rather than relentlessly and unapologetically enjoying who you are and what you do.
All those guys that replied wodka is a bad topic to talk about clearly miss the point too. It's not what you say, it's how you say it, or rather, how you feel when saying it.
Some technique as tonality isn't going to help much -- it's only useful to be aware of it, and to use it as a diagnostic tool (to notice when you feel not grounded)
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Watch out!
**SLAP**
That was reality slapping you in the face.
WAKE UP!
Life is not going to change for you, no matter how much you disagree with it.
If I read between the lines, (and risk just stating my own prejudices), it sounds like you if you're not asking a serious question.
It seems as if you feel indignated, and want to vent your frustration on how you follow prinicples (self-amuse, talk about what *you* want), and but are bummed out that they don't work for you.
You can hold on to the idea that you are right, and continue they way you're going, or you could consider that you missing out on something (but then you'll have to be flexible and willing to doubt existing ideas in your head, which is painful)
I think you might have a little ego going -- if not for the money, then for your secret pick-up knowledge....!
And -- do you really enjoy the wodka (and talking about it), or do you only enjoy it because you imagine it flashes money and makes you look cool?
And couldn't that be some weak substitute for actual self-love & acceptance?
And if you feel offended right now -- isn't that the mind just struggling to preserve itself?
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On a completely different angle: You have got to stop being so apologetic. Even in this post you are explaining why wodka is an interesting topic. And, you are juding yourself. Who says it sounds fake and snobbish? Did the girls say that to you? Then it's only a test, just don't buy into it and stay chill. And if you are the only one saying it, it clearly shows how you are sabotaging yourself.
If you are imaging that you sound fake and snobbish, it will make you weak and apologetic for yourself.
Stop judging yourself -- it'll only make the desire for compensation-love in the form of expensive wodka bigger (thereby completing the circle).
Try really owning it,.. *YOU* need to be OK with it... *YOU* need to feel comfortable.....
because the girl *is* feeling what you are feeling,.. a bit amused, but also not-ok.
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PS. Guys above do have a point; don't be logical, be emotional, be arousing. Don't bother them with facts - that's or men. (This is basic girl talk 101, though, you should know that!)
A) Reactive to the girls
B) Lacking self-esteem
-- if you're avoiding subjects, or adapting tonality to get results you need; you're being reactive -- rather than relentlessly and unapologetically enjoying who you are and what you do.
All those guys that replied wodka is a bad topic to talk about clearly miss the point too. It's not what you say, it's how you say it, or rather, how you feel when saying it.
Some technique as tonality isn't going to help much -- it's only useful to be aware of it, and to use it as a diagnostic tool (to notice when you feel not grounded)
~~~~
DUDE!!
Watch out!
**SLAP**
That was reality slapping you in the face.
WAKE UP!
Life is not going to change for you, no matter how much you disagree with it.
If I read between the lines, (and risk just stating my own prejudices), it sounds like you if you're not asking a serious question.
It seems as if you feel indignated, and want to vent your frustration on how you follow prinicples (self-amuse, talk about what *you* want), and but are bummed out that they don't work for you.
You can hold on to the idea that you are right, and continue they way you're going, or you could consider that you missing out on something (but then you'll have to be flexible and willing to doubt existing ideas in your head, which is painful)
I think you might have a little ego going -- if not for the money, then for your secret pick-up knowledge....!
And -- do you really enjoy the wodka (and talking about it), or do you only enjoy it because you imagine it flashes money and makes you look cool?
And couldn't that be some weak substitute for actual self-love & acceptance?
And if you feel offended right now -- isn't that the mind just struggling to preserve itself?
~~~
On a completely different angle: You have got to stop being so apologetic. Even in this post you are explaining why wodka is an interesting topic. And, you are juding yourself. Who says it sounds fake and snobbish? Did the girls say that to you? Then it's only a test, just don't buy into it and stay chill. And if you are the only one saying it, it clearly shows how you are sabotaging yourself.
If you are imaging that you sound fake and snobbish, it will make you weak and apologetic for yourself.
Stop judging yourself -- it'll only make the desire for compensation-love in the form of expensive wodka bigger (thereby completing the circle).
Try really owning it,.. *YOU* need to be OK with it... *YOU* need to feel comfortable.....
because the girl *is* feeling what you are feeling,.. a bit amused, but also not-ok.
~~~
PS. Guys above do have a point; don't be logical, be emotional, be arousing. Don't bother them with facts - that's or men. (This is basic girl talk 101, though, you should know that!)
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Anyway some venues have a pricy vodca that actually tastes better and cause less hangover pain.
But when I talk to girls about, it sounds a little snobish. Even if this is a subject that truly entertains me in a conversation, how there are different flavors and each particularity.
Other matter is that I attend to many concerts.
So the girl says "I love artist X, have you know him?". I respond "X? I saw 3 shows of him only this year. I just love it." It sounds fake and snobish again, but it just truth.
Should I not enter those conversations and change subject?
or it is all about tonality?
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