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December 5th, 2016
The Real Reason You're Getting Blown Out
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Trent3Reznor

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Another reason might be bad body odor, but thats a very easy solution!
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good post.

me likes it.
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@trent
nice post seems to be where im at the moment

im still giving a fuck about reactions, if you dont obvioulsy use physical escalation and instead draw state from yourself and be silent, do you not use some verbal escalation e.g. a neg    or keep on looking at her drawing state from within keeping centred icey etc until she smiles?
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Roccosifreddi59 wrote:
@trent
nice post seems to be where im at the moment

im still giving a fuck about reactions, if you dont obvioulsy use physical escalation and instead draw state from yourself and be silent, do you not use some verbal escalation e.g. a neg    or keep on looking at her drawing state from within keeping centred icey etc until she smiles?

Physicality with No Purpose GETS YOU BLOWN OUT


Its not that I dont physically escalate or talk shit.  Nothings ever black and white.  If I've got a boner for the chick, you're damn right I'm going to go caveman.  But if I'm not immediately aroused by her, I'm not going to force the physicality.  It wouldn't be congruent, and thats what would get me blown out. 

A lot of guys learn rapid escalation, and then use it as a technique.  Touching a person to get a reaction is just fucking creepy.  You should only be getting physical IF YOU'RE AROUSED. 


Talking Shit to Cover Silence GETS YOU BLOWN OUT

Same thing goes for talking shit.  If my mind is drawing blanks, I'm NOT going to go up in my head to search for something to say.  Instead, I'm just going to say present while maintaining eye contact.  I'm going to TRUST that the girl will stay purely off of my presence, and I don't need to hold her attention with talking.  

All of these things come down to one thing and thats SELF TRUST.  By not going into my head or using physicality as a crutch, I'm relying on only one thing to attract the girl.  My presence.  I trust that girls will like me just for me, and I dont need to impress her to create attraction.  


Intermediate/Advanced Sticking Point

By the way, this advice is really for intermediates trying to hit the advanced level.  At first as newbies, we have to actively convey value, and we have to escalate hard.  This is both to expand our realities, and to compensate for weak sub-communication. 

But once you're an intermediate, consciously doing these things will fuck your game up.  This is because your sub-coms are rock solid congruent now.  Your eye contact doesn't waver, your vocal tone is sharp, and you no longer seek approval.  You can spark attraction off the word "Hello".  These are all indicators that you're coming into alignment with the naturally attractive guy.  But the last step to hitting that level is by assuming your role and no longer conveying it.  Attraction is no longer something you do, its something you are. 


The Game Becomes RETARD EASY


Oh, and once you really start assuming your value in interactions, your results SKYROCKET!  The game becomes EASY.  You hear guys like Alex talk about getting the girl to game you, and this is the stage where that happens ALL THE TIME. 

I rarely talk.  The girl asks me questions.  I no longer ask for numbers.  The girl closes me.  I dont have to force the makeout.  The girl throws me windows, or goes for it herself. 

When you assume value, it creates a vacuum.  Because you're so unreactive to the other person's value, and lack any crumb of approval seeking it immediately SUCKS them in to your reality.  Most guys think you need to actively convey value to make a girl react, WRONG!  By staying centered, it literaly stifles the chick and makes her nervous.  You're so at ease that it forces her to react.  The way she reacts most of the time will be through GAMING YOU.  
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Really needed this, and greatly appreciate it.
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Yeah this is all very true.

David X said it best "there's no magic words to get her to open her legs but its as easy as saying
Abrakadabra once you get it"

The game becomes a process of "getting the fuck out of your own way" once you hit a certain
Level. Lots of guys hit that level very quickly and yet are still tripping up over
"Omg approach! Get physical ASAP"

The progression seems to be you do what you HAVE to do at first when
You start out...and then it changes into doing what you WANT to do later on.

The worst thing is seeing an intermediate guy who should be advanced
Still doing newbie things. Thinking they have to "open hard" when they
already Have a strong enough presence so they end up scaring girls,
opening the second They enter the club because they think they have to,
being approach machines etc When all they gotta do is approach 3
girls tops...its really sad.


Its a matter of thinking "I'm not enough, I'm an unfinished product" then
They're all butthurt because they turn failure into a self-fulfilling prophecy
Rather than success.

The biggest lie the devil ever told is that getting from the hottest girls
is hard.
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Well done, OP.
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 thanks trent liked the article
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so much good in this thread.


good.
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question...is it self trust of something specific or a general self trust of self?
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