THE FORUMS
Ok here I am about 3 weeks later, went out everyday except the sundays, no way to find any good place in Munich on Sunday. Finally getting into the "mood" again and feeling comfortable in the club, talking to girls etc. Some sticking points which fucked my game up quite a bit thought:
- Using relaxation as an excuse not to approach in the beginning of the night. Results in lack of state/momentum/whatever
- Being far too careful with getting physical. Push it more and get the reward. Had some makeouts though, but no pull.
- Relying on "state" and "self amusement" as a technique, have to get this sickness out of the system. Just having fun always worked fine.
- More high risk approaches / intimidating sets. I´ve never liked mixed sets and thus avoided them more often than I should have.
Things that are definetly getting better:
- No need to impress the girl. I feel quite awesome with diet, work, and going out regularly.
- Eye contact which is huge.
- Drawing state from within. I definetly care less about the response and stay in a good, relaxed mood.
It all continues as of today, I have no intention whatsoever of stopping this now. I should update this more often though... Cheers
- Using relaxation as an excuse not to approach in the beginning of the night. Results in lack of state/momentum/whatever
- Being far too careful with getting physical. Push it more and get the reward. Had some makeouts though, but no pull.
- Relying on "state" and "self amusement" as a technique, have to get this sickness out of the system. Just having fun always worked fine.
- More high risk approaches / intimidating sets. I´ve never liked mixed sets and thus avoided them more often than I should have.
Things that are definetly getting better:
- No need to impress the girl. I feel quite awesome with diet, work, and going out regularly.
- Eye contact which is huge.
- Drawing state from within. I definetly care less about the response and stay in a good, relaxed mood.
It all continues as of today, I have no intention whatsoever of stopping this now. I should update this more often though... Cheers
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Ok so yesterday I learned a valuable lesson: I don´t feel comfortable when relaxing in the club too much, "hitting it up hardcore" as Tyler said seems to be far more interesting right now. I still don´t want to pressure myself to approach as much as humanly possible, but I do need to take action rather than doing nothing to feel good. After all I´m going out everyday even though I have to get up in the morning so I better use my time. Some notes for today:
- Early in the night, even though I want to take action, it´s ok just to warmup and talk to random people. As the night progresses I can get more aggressive/sexual. Alignment in thoughts, words and actions.
- Everytime I feel the need to impress the girl I should STOP immediately and do nothing instead. Works great, feels good.
- Touch touch touch because I love it =).
And I should go for the pull if I make out with a girl that´s at least average, just for the reference experience. Could have done it a few times in the last weeks, but never did it.
- Early in the night, even though I want to take action, it´s ok just to warmup and talk to random people. As the night progresses I can get more aggressive/sexual. Alignment in thoughts, words and actions.
- Everytime I feel the need to impress the girl I should STOP immediately and do nothing instead. Works great, feels good.
- Touch touch touch because I love it =).
And I should go for the pull if I make out with a girl that´s at least average, just for the reference experience. Could have done it a few times in the last weeks, but never did it.
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Didn´t go out yesterday.
Bayern Munich lost CL finals so the city was pretty much dead and my wing didn´t want to go, another one who was out told me only drunk guys in the clubs so he went home. Could´ve gone out for an hour or so but didn´t feel like it.
Friday was cool though. Went to an underground/electro Party with wing and 1 other friend, met like 10 People there we know so we partied hard. No alcohol, as usual.
Met with a group of girls I know and pulled one out to the park. Didn´t have a condom on me so I didn´t take it further than heavy makeout/start taking off clothes, even though I should´ve just for the practice anred ref experience. I´m pretty su she´s a virgin.
Another thing I´m not really used to is that her friends also really like me, 2 are hotter than her. Don´t know how to proceed from here, I don´t want to start trouble but would love to hook up with all three of them =). It´s not my focus at the moment though and it shouldn´t be since I´m working
on improving my cold approach skills. Nevertheless it´s gonna be fun to see how it goes.
It alll continues on Monday. It´s a narrow road and I really need to implemebt the habit of building momentum/warming up in the beginning and persist/get more aggessive as the night progresses. Also man to woman is something I logically understand but not always express even when I feel it since I fear I might scare the girls away. .
Bayern Munich lost CL finals so the city was pretty much dead and my wing didn´t want to go, another one who was out told me only drunk guys in the clubs so he went home. Could´ve gone out for an hour or so but didn´t feel like it.
Friday was cool though. Went to an underground/electro Party with wing and 1 other friend, met like 10 People there we know so we partied hard. No alcohol, as usual.
Met with a group of girls I know and pulled one out to the park. Didn´t have a condom on me so I didn´t take it further than heavy makeout/start taking off clothes, even though I should´ve just for the practice anred ref experience. I´m pretty su she´s a virgin.
Another thing I´m not really used to is that her friends also really like me, 2 are hotter than her. Don´t know how to proceed from here, I don´t want to start trouble but would love to hook up with all three of them =). It´s not my focus at the moment though and it shouldn´t be since I´m working
on improving my cold approach skills. Nevertheless it´s gonna be fun to see how it goes.
It alll continues on Monday. It´s a narrow road and I really need to implemebt the habit of building momentum/warming up in the beginning and persist/get more aggessive as the night progresses. Also man to woman is something I logically understand but not always express even when I feel it since I fear I might scare the girls away. .
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Just came back from the club. I actually thought it would be a slow night since it´s monday and there´s just 2 clubs open, usually a few people in there.
However went in with a wing and it´s pretty packed. Decided to chill and chat for a bit, some random approaches nothing really went anywhere.
I need to be clear in thoughts, words and actions since I confuse myself from time to time with what I want to do with the approach.
Last set of the night hot tanned girl on the dancefloor, chodes dancing around. Hottest girl in the club, by far. Kept looking at her for like 10 minutes without having the balls to approach. Finally I remind myself that I am not gay and go in. Went relaxed and super chill, quickly went to the bar to talk. I can tell she´s into me. I banter a bit and get to know her. We dance. I look at her tits which are stunning. She´s grinding on me, I love her eyes. I go for the makeout a few times, but no go. She says "take my number". I tell her I have to go and I´ll call her. Shouldn´t have done that. Go for the makeout and it works for a split second. She runs off to bathroom and I leave with wing.
After all I think I should have stayed longer and continued, the rhythm of our conversation was far too relaxed and not party-makeout mood. I could tell she really liked me and I was afraid to lose her if we continued to talk. Next time stay in longer, and maybe even go for the pull instead of number.
I also caught myself thinking "what move do I make next". Didn´t destroy the convo cause I was quite in state, but I need to get rid of this. I´m already on a good way of seeking self amusement and not taking conversations too seriously, but that´s for the most part with warmups when there´s no real sexual tension. When I do approach girls I do find attractive it´s harder for me not to care too much. Will change with practice. Tomorrow is another night!
Oh and another limiting belief destroyed: Went out wearing shitty shirt. Thank god that´s off the table now =).
However went in with a wing and it´s pretty packed. Decided to chill and chat for a bit, some random approaches nothing really went anywhere.
I need to be clear in thoughts, words and actions since I confuse myself from time to time with what I want to do with the approach.
Last set of the night hot tanned girl on the dancefloor, chodes dancing around. Hottest girl in the club, by far. Kept looking at her for like 10 minutes without having the balls to approach. Finally I remind myself that I am not gay and go in. Went relaxed and super chill, quickly went to the bar to talk. I can tell she´s into me. I banter a bit and get to know her. We dance. I look at her tits which are stunning. She´s grinding on me, I love her eyes. I go for the makeout a few times, but no go. She says "take my number". I tell her I have to go and I´ll call her. Shouldn´t have done that. Go for the makeout and it works for a split second. She runs off to bathroom and I leave with wing.
After all I think I should have stayed longer and continued, the rhythm of our conversation was far too relaxed and not party-makeout mood. I could tell she really liked me and I was afraid to lose her if we continued to talk. Next time stay in longer, and maybe even go for the pull instead of number.
I also caught myself thinking "what move do I make next". Didn´t destroy the convo cause I was quite in state, but I need to get rid of this. I´m already on a good way of seeking self amusement and not taking conversations too seriously, but that´s for the most part with warmups when there´s no real sexual tension. When I do approach girls I do find attractive it´s harder for me not to care too much. Will change with practice. Tomorrow is another night!
Oh and another limiting belief destroyed: Went out wearing shitty shirt. Thank god that´s off the table now =).
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It´s been 4 weeks of going out 6-7 nights a week. I got laid once, had various makeouts and talked to a shit load of girls. I feel like I´m on the right track and learned a lot about my game and sticking points so far, so here´s the little sum up:
Things I definetly improved in:
- Expressing myself more honestly, alignment in thoughts, words and actions. I am more sexual without being embarassed or afraid that the girl doesn´t like it. I´m more unapologetic.
- I take waaay more action in the beginning. I push myself to do the things that I KNOW get me in the right direction and guarantee a good mood. I stick to the process.
- I am keeping the habit of going out and keeping my macro momentum as well as my constant reference experiences
Things I should be focusing on:
- Pushing more and playing every set to win. That means expressing what I want, going for the makeout, number in every instance just for the ref experience.
- Talking to the girls that make me go inside my head - super hot girls, chicks with guys etc.
- Fully assuming that I am enough, everything I do is just purely in the interest of expressing myself. Nothing there to do in order for it to "work". There´s no reason why I´m not enough.
Things I learned (even though I rationally understand them, I feel like I am starting to align my emotions with these beliefs) :
- Hot girls like me just for me
- She´s not cool just because she´s hot
- It doesn´t matter what time it is, what you´re wearing or who she´s with.
- I can touch a girl whenever I want.
- Just stay in set. Time´s my ally
Continuing the mission tonight. It´s becoming huge fun, really =). Also going to summit yeeeha. Cheers
Things I definetly improved in:
- Expressing myself more honestly, alignment in thoughts, words and actions. I am more sexual without being embarassed or afraid that the girl doesn´t like it. I´m more unapologetic.
- I take waaay more action in the beginning. I push myself to do the things that I KNOW get me in the right direction and guarantee a good mood. I stick to the process.
- I am keeping the habit of going out and keeping my macro momentum as well as my constant reference experiences
Things I should be focusing on:
- Pushing more and playing every set to win. That means expressing what I want, going for the makeout, number in every instance just for the ref experience.
- Talking to the girls that make me go inside my head - super hot girls, chicks with guys etc.
- Fully assuming that I am enough, everything I do is just purely in the interest of expressing myself. Nothing there to do in order for it to "work". There´s no reason why I´m not enough.
Things I learned (even though I rationally understand them, I feel like I am starting to align my emotions with these beliefs) :
- Hot girls like me just for me
- She´s not cool just because she´s hot
- It doesn´t matter what time it is, what you´re wearing or who she´s with.
- I can touch a girl whenever I want.
- Just stay in set. Time´s my ally
Continuing the mission tonight. It´s becoming huge fun, really =). Also going to summit yeeeha. Cheers
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Another week´s over. Got laid once, almost twice. Here´s some aspects of my game I noticed that I definetly need to get down consistently:
- Be more assertive and sure in my actions, especially pulling/leading
- Just acting normal during the conversation while still moving it forward
- There´s no reason why I´m not enough
I also want to turn this into a full FR thread with field reports, pics and whatever else might help my game. I´ll continue to go out 6 nights a week at least until summit. I´ll update this thread at least every 2 days. See you tomorrow!
- Be more assertive and sure in my actions, especially pulling/leading
- Just acting normal during the conversation while still moving it forward
- There´s no reason why I´m not enough
I also want to turn this into a full FR thread with field reports, pics and whatever else might help my game. I´ll continue to go out 6 nights a week at least until summit. I´ll update this thread at least every 2 days. See you tomorrow!
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75 days left to summit, which is around 60 nights of going out. In order to improve aforementioned aspects of my game and have more fun in general, here´s my to do list:
- Track my success/progress by writing detailed FR´s after every night of going out.
- Pushing myself to do the things I´m not comfortable with and thereby proving to myself that its´no big deal (especially mixed sets, stunners etc.)
- Always be closing
- I am enough, not trying to make an impression. Pure expression.
Apart from cold approach pickup I have various loose ends within my social circle, with girls that I already have a history with or want to meet. Thursday I´m meeting up with ex-gf probably for sex which will not hinder me from going out that day. It´s gonna be intense two and a half months. Expect first FR after tonight.
- Track my success/progress by writing detailed FR´s after every night of going out.
- Pushing myself to do the things I´m not comfortable with and thereby proving to myself that its´no big deal (especially mixed sets, stunners etc.)
- Always be closing
- I am enough, not trying to make an impression. Pure expression.
Apart from cold approach pickup I have various loose ends within my social circle, with girls that I already have a history with or want to meet. Thursday I´m meeting up with ex-gf probably for sex which will not hinder me from going out that day. It´s gonna be intense two and a half months. Expect first FR after tonight.
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hSo here are my quick 4 days field reports, although nothing exciting happened it´s good to stay in "going out mode".
Monday
City was dead that night, went to the only club that was open and talked to the only 2 slightly above totally ugly chicks. Then went home and got a good night´s sleep.
Tuesday
Went out for an hour or so, had like 3-4 interactions. I notice that in the beginning of the night it´s actually unnatural for me to just "shoot the shit" with chicks if my sole purpose is gaming, so really pushing it, going for makeout etc. feels more natural even when the night starts. Also I often find myself close to a girl and getting the makeout look. I tend not to do it if she´s not really hot, partially as an excuse but mainly because I dont want to. Should do it anyway from now on.
Wednesday
Honestly don´t remember that much, will update in case I do. Opened a girl with "would you like some cocaine?" though. Was fun.
Thursday
Club was surprisingly packed but I only had 45 minutes due to getting up early this morning. Had 3-4 good interactions, but I didn´t really feel the masculine polarity coming off me. Self amusement´s great because I enjoy it and it keeps me in a good mood, but it´s just the spice. Bread and butter gotta be the polarity
and alignment in thoughts, words and actions. Approached one chick outside the club who clearly was into me, wanted to befriend the friend but was too tryhard...already sensed it the moment I said hi to her. I hate 2-sets girl+girl cause one always feels neglected...normally the uglier one.
Friday
Met a girl I know from when I was 16, saw her out of the car a few days ago and we decided to meet up. Took her to a bar for 2 drinks then we went home and fucked . Was cool. Definetly doing it again. After that went to the club for like 30 minutes just for the sake of going out =).
Monday
City was dead that night, went to the only club that was open and talked to the only 2 slightly above totally ugly chicks. Then went home and got a good night´s sleep.
Tuesday
Went out for an hour or so, had like 3-4 interactions. I notice that in the beginning of the night it´s actually unnatural for me to just "shoot the shit" with chicks if my sole purpose is gaming, so really pushing it, going for makeout etc. feels more natural even when the night starts. Also I often find myself close to a girl and getting the makeout look. I tend not to do it if she´s not really hot, partially as an excuse but mainly because I dont want to. Should do it anyway from now on.
Wednesday
Honestly don´t remember that much, will update in case I do. Opened a girl with "would you like some cocaine?" though. Was fun.
Thursday
Club was surprisingly packed but I only had 45 minutes due to getting up early this morning. Had 3-4 good interactions, but I didn´t really feel the masculine polarity coming off me. Self amusement´s great because I enjoy it and it keeps me in a good mood, but it´s just the spice. Bread and butter gotta be the polarity
and alignment in thoughts, words and actions. Approached one chick outside the club who clearly was into me, wanted to befriend the friend but was too tryhard...already sensed it the moment I said hi to her. I hate 2-sets girl+girl cause one always feels neglected...normally the uglier one.
Friday
Met a girl I know from when I was 16, saw her out of the car a few days ago and we decided to meet up. Took her to a bar for 2 drinks then we went home and fucked . Was cool. Definetly doing it again. After that went to the club for like 30 minutes just for the sake of going out =).
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Monday
Wen to the club and talked to 3-4 girls. Only stayed for 1 hour. I kinda feel like I got self amusement down, gotta focus on moving the interaction forward.
Tuseday
Club was more crowded on tuesday, still I had a limit of ~45 mins. Stayed in 1 set with 3 girls, 2 friends of mine where with me. Missed the chance of getting my girls number, next time I should go for it when I get the chance.
Wednesday
45 mins clubaction again. Went out with a friend and we hit up 2 girls right at the beginngin, wound up spending the whole time with them. My chick hat a bf as well as her sister + chodefriend with em. Isolation didn´t fly. Guess I was too self amused and not determined enough. I need to push and be more risky. CLOSING MACHINE!!
That´s it for the first half of the week. I´m slowly getting into the zone again after last week was kinda rough.
Wen to the club and talked to 3-4 girls. Only stayed for 1 hour. I kinda feel like I got self amusement down, gotta focus on moving the interaction forward.
Tuseday
Club was more crowded on tuesday, still I had a limit of ~45 mins. Stayed in 1 set with 3 girls, 2 friends of mine where with me. Missed the chance of getting my girls number, next time I should go for it when I get the chance.
Wednesday
45 mins clubaction again. Went out with a friend and we hit up 2 girls right at the beginngin, wound up spending the whole time with them. My chick hat a bf as well as her sister + chodefriend with em. Isolation didn´t fly. Guess I was too self amused and not determined enough. I need to push and be more risky. CLOSING MACHINE!!
That´s it for the first half of the week. I´m slowly getting into the zone again after last week was kinda rough.
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Thursday
Went to club with 3 friends. I remember 3 specific interactions.
Girl 1 short, hot brazilian chick, probably mid 20´s. First set of the night, little bit uptight (both of us), went better as the interaction continued. Asked me if I was gay in the beginning, remembered that Alex used to get that question from time to time which pumped my state and made me feel really good =). Ejected a few times and came back, she definetly liked me, should have isolated her from friend. Also more physicality even though I started totally neutral I could feel I could have pushed farther.
Girl 2 skinny hot graduate, probably just turned 18. Almost lips to lips cause I was so close talking to her, I really enjoyed it. Friend dragged her away after 10 Minutes, should have fought for it. I can sense that once I do what I want to do without giving a fuck about the outcome it´s way better than managing her reactoins. Still I should go for more physicality/sexual tension.
Girl 3 At the very end of the night, tall dark hair, stylish type. Slightly drunk which I immediately realized, so I went for makeout after 1 mins. Had to leave with my friends but took her fb. Dunno if I follow up.
Lessons from thursday: At around 3:30 I noticed many girls just wandering around looking for an opportunity to meet a guy. I should take advantage of the logistics when they change in my favour and talk to these. I still feel my ego is attached to the outcome, e.g. I get a girl and she´s drunk / it´s late and she´s looking to meet somebody. I need to understand that´s part of the game.
Went to club with 3 friends. I remember 3 specific interactions.
Girl 1 short, hot brazilian chick, probably mid 20´s. First set of the night, little bit uptight (both of us), went better as the interaction continued. Asked me if I was gay in the beginning, remembered that Alex used to get that question from time to time which pumped my state and made me feel really good =). Ejected a few times and came back, she definetly liked me, should have isolated her from friend. Also more physicality even though I started totally neutral I could feel I could have pushed farther.
Girl 2 skinny hot graduate, probably just turned 18. Almost lips to lips cause I was so close talking to her, I really enjoyed it. Friend dragged her away after 10 Minutes, should have fought for it. I can sense that once I do what I want to do without giving a fuck about the outcome it´s way better than managing her reactoins. Still I should go for more physicality/sexual tension.
Girl 3 At the very end of the night, tall dark hair, stylish type. Slightly drunk which I immediately realized, so I went for makeout after 1 mins. Had to leave with my friends but took her fb. Dunno if I follow up.
Lessons from thursday: At around 3:30 I noticed many girls just wandering around looking for an opportunity to meet a guy. I should take advantage of the logistics when they change in my favour and talk to these. I still feel my ego is attached to the outcome, e.g. I get a girl and she´s drunk / it´s late and she´s looking to meet somebody. I need to understand that´s part of the game.
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-Start building at the beginning of the night
- More male to female communication, not friend to friend
- Don´t reject approach invitations
- There´s nothing to worry about.
Going out in about an hour. Yeeeha
Edit: 2 months left until summit. My goals until then:
- Continuing my diet and work out 5 times/week + cardio (1/2 per week)
- Keep going out 6 nights a week, pushing my comfort zone had
- Continue working on my online income and finish 2 more projects
- Make some money to live the good life in Vegas =)
- Advance to Platinum League in SC2
Let´s get it done.
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