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BigR Field Report - From Zero to Hero
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A lot of you guys may recognize this. You're sitting at home, wondering what is it that went wrong in your last couple of years. And you're at this point where you are like "this shit needs to change, NOW!". I've had the luxury to go to a school with a 95% to 5% women/men rating, however, for some reason (i now know why) I wasn't able to get out of that freaking friendzone. I've learned a lot of things about women during that time, so I can use that to my advantage.

So for me, that time has come. I need to fucking step up, don't be a chode and just take RIGHT action. This is my area where i'll be posting my shit up. This is my journal about my shit, my life and all the things that I want to post. I will be completely honest with everything. No internet ego shit. Why? Because this journal is for ME. So I can read it, again and again. Learn from my successes and failures.

My goals for before my 24th birthday (30th of june)
- Having cold approached like at least 100 different women
- out of these 100 approaches, I need to have at least 1 day2.
- GET LAID

Maybe for some of you it's a small goal, but I don't care. It's my goal, and i'm going to do it, and make it! At least I know that this is going to be awesome and fun! Time to thicken my skin, and be(come) a fucking MAN!

Btw, the first night that I felt what "state" was: www.rsdnation.com/bigr/blog/chodes-first-night-fire. Wrote it as soon as I got home. Had that "awesome state" Brad shows in one of tylers vids. Couldn't write properly. Loved it. ha.
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Okay. 04.37 am. It was queensday here at the Netherlands. Massive party at Enschede. I was really in the mood, but for some reason, the enthousiasm was completely GONE as soon as I arrived. I felt it and was like "FUCK, this is going to be an awkward night." Walked around.. like a chode; tried to make some eye contact. That worked. Next touched random girls and that got me into (sort of)state. It wasn't a great state though, because it was gone within a few seconds even if i kept on doing funny shit. But oh well. Got approached couple of times. I didn't even have to do shit. Lazy style. hate it. Prefer to work for it. So dropped the girl(s).

Massive amount of people was overwhelming though. Later friend of mine was like "dude, she's looking at me all the time", and i was thinking like "wtf, impossible". And yup, she wasn't looking at him, but at me. Good one. Looked at her straight in the eye, waved at her to come over. She came. Awesome. German girl, cute, 7.5/10. Quite nice character. Had some fun with her, while not being in an awesome state, but still it was fun. Friend was, unfortunately, a terrible wingman and went inside, leaving me with the cockblock girl. Oh well, had to step up, would I want this to work out. So had fun with the both of them, little bit. Sate dropped. I was like "fuck, need to do something quick before cockblock does something". So made out with her, and the evil cockblock wanted her to go inside with her. She went. Fack. Later that night, went back to her, completely out of state (maybe shouldnt have done that) and got her number, anyways.

Couple of other approaches, not that great, being out of state, so the things I said, missed. Jokes missed. Too bad. Tried, Learned from it, and had a blast!
4-5 approaches tonight i think. Count a set as 1. Need to cranck it up a notch. But proud of approaching, talking, and having fun. Make-outs are going easier too. Like that. Learned a lot.

Baseline of what i've learned: 
- when approaching, forget ALL the RSD shit, and just approach, for the sake of approaching! Need to do this, to get in state, and getting comfortable with it.
- say whatever you want to say, what you think is funny. Do whatever you want to do. Overwhelm her. When in state, this tends to always work. That's why making out is easy then.
- When approaching, touching the girl, making her smile, then SAY something. DO NOT move 3 feet further, and chill at the bar with your buddy, them move back to her again, and say "hi". That shit is lame. Either DO it or don't. But hey, do give myself props for still approaching. Looks were like 8/10. Character, can't judge, too short chat.
- Being a man, is value enough, more than enough
- Girls like you for who you are.
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Wednesday: Started off weird. Choded out on daygaming. Got in my mind, and got stuck in it or something. Stupid. The night, however, went a lot better. As soon as I arrived at the club, I saw that there were only like ... 30-50 people in it. Didnt hold me back. Approached first girl at the entrance. Just weird convo. Inside, wardrobe girl. Fun. In the club approached 1 other girl. After that, got a drink. Went into a 2 set. Just having fun and shooting the shit. Saw three oher girls, left the two set (weird girls anyways, just for my own fun) and opened the three set (not mentioning the guy, smoked him). Had fun. 1 girl was kind of liking me, and really wanted to keep the convo going, she invested a lot. Appreciated. Had fun with her. Ozzie will probably hate me now, because I didn't even close this girl. Not attractive enough, was my excuse i guess?

Learning point: 
- close every girl with whom you're having a good time. Just for the closing practicing, whether it's N-close or K-close.
- RELAX!! Still in the seller perspective, not the buyer. Sometimes, when I hit state, I go into the buyer. Lot more fun.

Thursday: Daytime.. quite okay i guess. Not too bad. No convo's worth mentioning though. Oh one maybe. Ran into one of the girls from yesterday (studies at my UT). She was all flirty. Cute. Didn't close (again that lame excuse..). Night is on one hand decent, other it's not. Started off good. Was at ATM Machine, opened guy/girl set. Got both of them laughing. Didn't agree with anything the girl said, and she got into me. Wanted more from me, maybe..? Dunno. Was hard to tell, because I was just playing. Yet agian, no close. Went into the club opened a 2 set. Young housewives. Fack. Just having fun, then they wanted to leave. Ok. After that I became a chode, created resistance and didn't get out of it. After 2 hours, went home. Friend (girl) did approach me, hugged me (quite intensely) and I (for some reason, thought "wtf") created an awkward situation. I hugged her like, more often. But today, was strange. Don't care. Figure it out later.

Learning points
- need to work in my 'resistance' thingie. THat I can just be like that wat Tyler talked about in blueprint. Letting to of resistance.

Overall, need to work on my approaches. Want to increase the number to at least 10 a night. But can't complain. Days that i'm feeling well, hitting state, are coming more often. It has only been a week since I have experienced state for the first time and just kissing, because I wanted to do it. So i'm making progress and I like it! Still learning from my approaches, so that's good. More and more girls are coming up to me too. Like it. There is, however, a side not that must be made. Must be careful not to become the lazy guy and let them work. I WANT to be the approacher!

Count: 89 to go. Only counting the approaches mentioned in the thread, since these are only 'noteworthy'.
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Here we go.

Friday was nice. Went out with a couple of friends. They like to open girls, not as "game" as we know it, but just to talk, talk, talk, go on day2, day3 and then fuck. I don't really want to the "dating" as they do, but ..anyways, this shit is going nowhere. Friday eve was good. Was really in the adventure / party mode and wanting to just have fun that night by doing shit. Opened a 4 set. First approach. They were shocked, but reacted well. Wanted to take them with me into the club like 300 meters further. They went, but half way they wanted to go somewhere else, to get some weed. Don't like girls who smoke weed, send them somewhere and moved on.

In the club just did some funny shit, opened another 2 set, but dropped them immediately. Dunno. Maybe just to pump my state. Had a fun look, opened up another girl, she was like 'omg wtf is this guy doing' in a positive way (HSP guy, so can read girls amazingly well). Could have kissed her, didn't think of it at that time, so I didn't do it. Just didn't cross my mind to do it. It was a hell of a ride though. Me having a good time, her having a good time. That feeling. Liked it.

Opened a couple of other sets, but didn't go anywhere (incl. dime-piece-girl). One girl wanted me to open up, could see that from her eyes, signaled her that I wouldn't do it, her eyes became sad. Writing this now, I am like "why the f.. didn't I open?", good learning point. Have fun AND open! 

Saturday was WEIRD! Went into the city where my mom lives. Was in town, because I wanted to see my parents again. Strange atmosphere at the bar though. Did hit that 'fun-state' again. Felt amazing. Was with friends, didn't open any set. Tired after going out for 9 nights straight. That was my excuse not to approach. Can't change it now, but good learning point. JUST DO IT. It always improves state!

Liked
- state I was in, party state, doing shit state.
- hitting that state feeling more often
- not affraid to open on friday
- amazing that the law of state transfer just works!
- kino right off the bat! That's going pretty good.

Learning points
- Get a better focus with girls (close, fucks etc)
- OPEN OPEN OPEN 
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Short post. Daygame, little daygame though.

train-girl:
opened up, just chatting about the weather. She enjoyed it, invested in the convo. Had a good time. Learned not to be serious, just say shit that YOU think is funny, and it'll hit. If not, too bad. Her problem, not yours. You're having fun.

(already known) university friend girl:
Phone. She messaged me, asking something. Called her like 2 hours later. Why is this game? It's phone-game. Need to improve that as well. Went really well. Had a call for 20 mins, just saying funny shit. She was laughing A LOT. Had to hang up, cos had some errands to do. She was like ".. aww really..?" Felt good. Guess I'm improving in more than just one area of my game. Loving it.

Few interactions. Could have gotten more out of it. Was at the train station, large one, Utrecht Central (Netherlands). Was stuck in my head, because I had to ask someone 'about the weather'. Cause: iphone app. The dude who wrote the book 'the game', neil or something, created that app. Got it, and I like it. Got me in my head. Rationalized approaching. Like I already mentioned: Need to work on my resistance thingie. Just accepting it, and doing what i've told myself to do -> follow your own rules (do at least 5 approaches a day). Need to internalize this, and actually DO it. Nonetheless, had a good day today. Loving it how game is improving the quality of my life (along with selfhelp/development books)
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02.41 AM.

Got home early. Club became empty within no-time. People probably (including me) have class tomorrow. Anyways. Had a good night. Good as in, high energy, hugged LOTS of girls. Had fun with the first group of girls I opened. Opened A LOT tonight as well. So, I guess you could almost say that opening is not a problem. At least, not at night game. As long as I do that FIRST approach. I realize that if I don't, then i'll be stuck in my head for the rest of the night.

Friends were at the club as well, which hardly happens on wednesdays. Was nice to always have a back-up, to go to. The only thing, however, was that the interactions weren't really going anywhere. Girls were really exited to talk to me, or at least, about me opening, but the conversations didn't really go anywhere.

I must say, the touching tonight just went awesome. I can remember, like 2 months ago, I was like still shaking when touching a girl. Now I feel comfertable doing it. Opening, hugging, directing her where to put her hands, touching her chin, etc. So that is going really well. The thing is, I need to look in their eyes A LOT more, to see what they will accept, and will not accept. Now I just feel it, from their vibe what I can/can't do. Good as well, often.

That all being said, there are some points that I can learn from
- approach even more (as always)
- look girls into their eyes, with the laser-eyes.
- be comfertable not saying anything
- stay in a conversation, or if you feel like it's going bad, leave, but DO COME BACK
- be a cold mofo. Today, again, I was too HIGH energy (like a puppy)

What I did well tonight:
- taking initiative with hugging
- approaching
- remembering girls name
- just having fun, having my own party

EDIT: FAK I lost count. I know I did at least 5 opens. Just going to count 5 here. So what am I on now... 83?
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02.09
yet again, home early. Maybe I need to change cities or something. It was rather empty, sort of, at least with girls. Maybe it was my RAS, dunno. Anyways, did a couple of opens however. On my way to the city, got quite in my head. Was like 'have to approach, it'll get me out of my head'. So just said random shit to 3 sets. Knew i would get rejected, but hey, it helped.

2 girls (6'es)
Open happy, but slightly stifled. You could see them doubt and think. I didn't care and rambled on asking 'Yay i want to party! what's the best place to be tonight?' Actually answered, rather nice. They were on their way home. Had a fun, small conversation. Noticed that I was reacting to them, instead they towards me. Left them, moved on to the next set.

3 girls (8 outside, 1 inside)
Open was enthousiastic, real, but enthousiastic. No stifle, nothing. Felt good. Girls reacted positively immediatly. Same energy level as with what I came in. Nice. They were really into me, asking me stuff, telling stuff etc. Then they said, they were in 5Havo (dutch education system). Quickly ran it over in my mind, and thought that they could never be older than 16/17. Coming to think of it, why did I care? Maybe because i'm 23, but on the other hand, why did I care? Should I care? Don't know. Deep down, I like 16/17 year olds, but on the other hand, they're soooo young.. Anyways, left them immediately. Thought they were too young. Need to figure out what to do with young girls.

girl on dancefloor
walked down the stairs towards the dancefloor, saw a 7/10. Focussed on her. Put my arms out, started dancing with her. I was, having fun, she was having fun. Didn't say a word. Grabbed her face, made her smile. Let her go, and she started qualifiying to me. Saying, it's my birthday. That's where I could have done better, because I went into the dancing monkey mode and reacted to her. Did some funny moves, kissed her on her hand for some reason and congratulated her. Asked who she was with, she answered "roommates". Right away, the thought that she was with a boyfriend was immediately gone. Myth Busted. That was an eye opener, especially because yesterday I had a girl saying that the guy she was with was NOT her boyfriend, while it actually was. Nice. But during me reacting I drew state from her, by her emotion, of what I was doing (to her). Learning point.

Girl behind window
Was having fun with a girl behind a window, she was dancing. I was just being silly. Moved around the window, towards the group and focussed on one girl. She was so .. intimidated (?) that she was like lauging and moving away or something. BOTH her friends immediately started dancing with me, and talking with me. I was like "wauw". That was nice to be part of. Qualifying to me. Could'nt really hear what they were saying, said creepy shit, so set was ruined. Learning point, have a stronger frame, and push it on them.

Good points
- approaches, total of 5 again.
- girls qualifying to me (nice!)
- slowly starting to not care about rejections

Learning points
- not reacting, be active!
- draw state from what you do, say, not from others
- need to work on my social skills. Got to get past the opener, and actually have a nice conversation
- need to figure out what to do with 16 / 17 year old girls. It happens more often now that I meet those.

as a side note, I want to mention that i'm glad I found the consistancy of going out at least 3 times a week. Sometimes it's 4 times a week. Need to get more experience with daygame. If I can incorporate that, it'll be a massive 7 days a week. I'm glad i'm taking these steps, slow steps, but hey, every victory is a victory. I'm stepping up, having fun, opening, having (small) conversations (sometimes large), had 2 kiss-closes in 2 weeks (2 weeks before, never had one, so i'm happy), got some numbers... i'm improving! Slowly, but steadily. Loving the progress. it's like you completely wake up when you go out. Might accept a new job, as this annoying street-salesman. Hey, it'll improve my daygaming!

Now i need to stop writing. Don't want to get addicted to going out, then return here and type a report. Need to go out, and  improve myself!
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Still have to make a field report from last friday. Going to do that now. Read Jasha's thread (http://www.rsdnation.com/node/218868/forum?page=1), and realized that I am writing Waayy too much. Maybe even that much, that it's starting to get addicting for me to write. Especially because I've been taught to be a dutch writer. My english writing skills are ... not that great. So maybe I should just stick it with the basics. Only if I WANT to write a long story about this ONE girl, whom I DID have a good moment with, I will write about it. Other girls, and things, i'll just keep short.

Inspired by this thread, i'll create monthly goals, keep my posts (like I said) short, but i'll add the good points to it. Love that part. Makes the thread "me".


Town: Eindhoven, Netherlands
- went there with 2 male, 2 female friends (lesson: No more female friends, not these at least)
- had fun yelling out the window to random girls on the street
- couple of "You!" approaches (FUN!!, didn't go anywhere though, just plain fun)
- 6-set with wing, good wingman. Had fun, her laughing all the time, lifting her up, just having fun. No close. They were seated, did not want to get up
- 2 more street approaches, didn't go anywhere
- 1 approach at the club, got resistance & in my head when i got inside. FUCK! Did selfexpress though (!), saying "I like you, who are you?". Felt good. Props for me ha.

Victories
- Having fun, saying shit
- grabbing girls, playing with them
- selfexpression

Lessons
- Approach to get yourself out of your head, when in the club. Don't resist. Accept.
- Either get good girl accesoires, or don't take them with you at all.

Next
- Get laid
- assume success
- Say whatever I think is funny

I have only created a goal that I want to achieve before my birthday, but I haven't created any goals for May, so I will start tomorrow (it's 0.17 here now, everything is closed now..). I'll use the following set-up:

MONTHLY GOAL: 15 - end of MAY 2012
Day Interactions: 0/15
Night Interactions: 0/50
Dates: 0/1
Number Closes: 0/5
Kiss Closes: 0/2
Fuck Closes: 0/1

BTW: Hopefully I'll be going to Paris (France) this thursday, just for the weekend! 

Credits to the following threads for the ideas & new layout
- http://www.rsdnation.com/node/188236/forum
- http://www.rsdnation.com/node/216527/forum?page=3
- http://www.rsdnation.com/node/218868/forum?page=1
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Okay, going to do this in different posts.

Wednesday, hometown Enschede
Post whatever I can remember of it
- Had a party at a friends. Said Hi to everyone, why? Wanted everyone to know me.
- Moved to blond girl right away. Got her number within a minute. Hooked her up to a friend of mine. Discovered she only does black people. He's black. That's good.
- Left her, went to 2 other girls. Said plain things. Bored.
- Opened a girl who I met some other day. Got to talk to her like, the rest of the night. Think she diggs me, kinda. Wanted me to stay, at least that's the feeling she gave me. Forgot numberclose, but i'll see her again, soon. 
- Went to city, party got boring.
- Bar 1: Knew almost EVERYONE. Hated it. Said hi to some. Hugged, played. That's it. Gone.
- Bar 2: talked to the wardrobe lady. She's starting to love me. Talking to me, looking at me with her 'love' eyes or so. That's good, It'll save me money next time at the wardrobe
- Opened first set "Hi, love your shirt". That's it. She invested a lot in the convo. Loved it. Moved to the next, got bored. No close. Too bad.
- Re-opened a previously (other day) opened girl. She forgot my name. I remembered hers. She loved me right away. Had fun. Made some promises with her that she has to keep. Will be fun next time. Ha.
- left. Got bored.

Interactions? Quite a lot. Not going to count the guy openers, or 'girls-i-have-already-talked-to-and-re-opened-openings' Can't remember daygame though, nor lessons or victories.

MONTHLY GOAL: 15th - end of MAY 2012
Day Interactions: 0/15
Night Interactions: 5/50
Dates: 0/1
Number Closes: 0/5
Kiss Closes: 0/2
Fuck Closes: 0/1
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Thursday, Lille, France
Friend and me decided to go on city trip to Lille, France. 4.5 hours away from NL, 7.5 hours from hometown.
- got in the first club/bar. Opened 2 sets in total. First set, got them to talk. Asked questoins. Hated it. Dismissed them. 2nd set, got ignored. Fuck it. Had fun with friends.
- Me and buddy asked random people where to go to. Found correct club. Went in. Walked around, opened 2 sets asking where to put our jackets.
- From then on, it was game on.
- Opened LOTS (15-20 i think) sets. Was on fire. Got completely crazy. Lifting up girls, kissing them, moving from one girl to another, I didn't give a SHIT! Got chased by 2 girls. Fucking loved EVERY bit of it. 2 / 3 random kiss-opens/closes. No numbers, because I was only in france for one evening. Random shit. Had SO much fun, forgot goal of fucking someone that night. I was the KING of the club, and people noticed it. I felt like a rockstar. AMAZING. Girls saw me kissing other girls. Apparently they wanted me even more after seeing it, or so. AMAAAAZZIIINNNGGGGG.

Victories
- HAVING LOTS OF FUN
- Saying whatever I want!
- Multiple make-outs. They were even in the other girls face, who I just talked to, left, kissed other girl, then came back to.
- Hardly saying anything. Letting them talk. Interupting them, and then kissing. WAUW!!
- directing them saying shit like "look at me!" and moving them / their head in your direction

Lessons
- Just have fun! Don't care what others think, don't even notice them! When you have fun, you radiate that to others.
- Just open. Have focus, but low goals. Just OPENING gets you STARTED

Next
- Remember to focus. Pull the girls.
- Move them. LEAD
- Get LAID

MONTHLY GOAL: 15th - end of MAY 2012
Day Interactions: 0/15
Night Interactions: 20/50
Dates: 0/1
Number Closes: 0/5
Kiss Closes: 2/2
Fuck Closes: 0/1
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Friday. Was at friends place, Woerden.
SOOOO TIRED after being up for 48 hours (even though I got 3 hours of sleep in total inbetween).
- Dragged myself to the bar. No opens. Old friend,girl. Chatted. Got little energy. Decided to leave. Was, however, in a hugging/huggy state.
- walked home. Half way, girl opened me, asking me whether I needed a ride. Knew her. Said yes. She wanted me to take her home.
- Did so. Got scared of doing something with her, so no close. Why? Pussy-ed out maybe?

Not going to do lessons, victories, etc.

Saturday, Enschede. Grumpy.
- Daygame, 3 sets. First, terrible. Second, good, she liked me, but had to run to get the train, so too late for #-close DAMN. Third, decent. Not amazing.
- Night @ street: Opened first set. Went well. Just having a nice convo. In english. Always feel comfertable talking in english, apparently. Not so much in my birth-language. Why? NO IDEA!! WTF!!! Anyways, convo was fun. But that's it.
- Second set at street: 3 girls. 1 ignored me. 1 asked me whether I wanted a sigarette, last talked with me. I reacted like a prick. Weird. Left them.
- in club, no openings. Fack. Resistance. In my head. Guy opened me & complimented me, introduced me to a girl so I could have fun. Acted like a prick again. She left me (us). Tried to be nice to the dude again, but wasn't. WEEEIIIRRDDDD. He helped me so much, and I got crancky? STRANGE! Oh well. Better luck next time.
- figured out why guys and girls look at me a lot. Apparently I look like Mark van Bommel (Dutch soccer player).
- went outside. Got approached by 6 set. 4 girls, 2 guys. One girl says "you're famous!" I'm like, "yeah whatever". Her: "Really! I remember you from somewhere" Then her friends, 2 girls, wanted my attention. Played, on a negative, prick guy, way. Ruined it. Ha. Too bad.
- Being cracky didn't get me anywhere. Left 4 bed.

Victories
- Approached, even though I was cranky. Good job.
- getting lots of compliments of looking like a celeb / rockstar / social guy. Apparently they see me like that.

Lessons
- Watch out not to identify with what the other say about you. It's not who you are! You can only use those compliments to your advantage!!
- Approach, and don't give up. Even though you're in a "X" mood, just do it! 
- Create a rule for yourself about who you will / will not fuck, what I will do with my 'old-hometown-girls', what age does a girl have to be to be 'gamed by me'
- Be FRIENDLY to EVERYONE who approaches you/me, because they're interested in you/me.

Next
- LEAD
- GET LAID
- HAVE FUN!!

MONTHLY GOAL: 15th - end of MAY 2012
Day Interactions: 3/15
Night Interactions: 22/50
Dates: 0/1
Number Closes: 0/5
Kiss Closes: 2/2
Fuck Closes: 0/1
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Woonachtig in Utrecht / Amsterdam / Member of Utrecht & Amsterdam Inner Circle
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