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May 24th, 2013
Drugs for anxiety and socializing
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crazyman

crazyman

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I don't want to start drinking again, so I'm planning to game sober. The problem is I've developed pretty bad anxiety. Probably from being isolated for too long. I haven't gone out regularly for a while. It takes me too long to get back in the zone even with booze.

Alcohol was the only thing that helped me spit ridiculous crap to girls and not think twice about it. When being sober I get stuck in my head, start acting weird, get hot flushes and pretty much turn into a fucking creep lol.

What can I replace alcohol with? Something that can be taken multiple times a week without messing up my health.

Currently considering (and also have easy access to):

MDMA - never done it. Sounds great, but I doubt it's a good idea to take it very often. Plus I'd probably have to pop a viagra when rolling since it causes limp dick.
Propranolol - prescription beta-blocker. Takes care of physical effects of anxiety.
XANAX - prescription. Makes you sleepy and chill.

Any suggestions on what to take? Not looking for drug lectures. This is for night game so it doesn't matter if it seems like I'm on something.
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sentry303

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If you're going to do drugs, why not just keep drinking?
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crazyman

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Alcohol is one of the most health damaging drugs there is. MDMA, for example, has been proven to be safer.

Also, I usually drink and spend too much. Plus it messes up coordination and pretty much destorys my diet. I need something that affects my brain only.
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 I've found that the healthyest 'magic pill' for this is Ozzie's speech on Transformations. 100% natural. 
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crazyman

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I'm done with mental masturbation. Look at my registration date. You can only go so far watching and reading stuff on the internet.
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Sweet Toof

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MDMA is great in SMALL doses, but I find when I do more than a small amount I just feel so damn chilled out I can't even talk, I just want to stand around and observe people. MDMA can take up to an hour or 2 to kick in, and by that time you might realise that you have done too much. It's hard to judge how strong it is going to feel.

It sounds terrible to give advice on what drug to do, but Mephedrone does absolute magic for confidence and on that stuff I can't help but just unravel my mind to everyone without giving a fuck. The beauty of it is that its difficult to feel too fucked on it because the peak high only lasts 20 minutes or so. The peak high of MDMA in contrast can last for hours.

Also, MDMA does = limp dick problems, Mephedrone will not give you that. I use to fuck my ex-girl up to 3 hours straight on Mephedrone :D
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I love Xanax to kill anxiety. Doesn't knock me out I guess it's different for everyone

Similar drugs to Xanax In the same drug chemical family (benzodiazepines)
Valium
Klonopin
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I've done both MDMA as teenager cos my brain chemistry used to be off balance ever since I remember and back than when I tried this shit, was the first time in life I felt like "everything's gonna be alright". But you have to be pretty self aware and strong willed to be able to tell when those chemicals no longer provide benefits and get off it (six months leave or take). My advice - stay away from it!

The way I fixed my brain was through diet, meditation, working out, supplements and positive thinking.

However stuff like proper diet, sleeping patterns and possitive thinking are pretty much impossible to jump start if you are so depressed you can't get off the bed in the morning. What helped me tremedously was being a nerd and researching smart drugs (nootropics). I had success with stuff like L-tryptophan, DMAE, DAA etc. These are not drugs, these are natural amino acids but can have similar effects to prozac, effedrin etc. They have minimal side effects, however, they will not work for you forever either. Generally speaking six months and than you have to find something else. It gives you a good solid time buffer to get back on track, get driven and motivated so you can implement the habits that will help rewire your brain = eating helthy, excercise, positive thinking, sleeping patterns, learning how to meditate etc. so you don't have to rely on supplements forever.
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Sweet Toof

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 I see nothing wrong with someone doing a drug like MDMA and experiencing what it feels like to have absolute zero social anxiety for a night, but relying on it will just mess the person up. Same with alcohol.

Make sure that if you do do these drugs, that you reflect on what is happening/different/improved during the night so that you will have stuff to reflect on AFTER the drug experience.

People do drugs and alcohol to avoid what they feel like deep down, but a powerful drug like MDMA can give you extremely rich insights into your reality if you let that happen and consciously pursue and register those opportunities.

The amount of friends I have that do drugs and apparently have no self-reflective experiences is tragic to me. Its wasting an opportunity in my eyes.
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crazyman

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MDMA was definitely on the "to try" list. I'm not planning to become a regular user. Has anyone tried low acid doses for this purpose? Tolerance issues would come into play but it's worth a try.

Mephedrone sounds interesting too, but kinda off putting that the peak lasts for 20 minutes only.
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crazyman wrote:
I'm done with mental masturbation. Look at my registration date. You can only go so far watching and reading stuff on the internet.
Yeah, substance dependency will get you much further. For what it's worth, I'd recommend you go buy one of those testosterone supplements, like Active Xtreme and start lifting. It'll make you feel alpha and aggressive. But in the end nothing will help until you get out of your mental hole. Good luck getting out of that distinctly American fix-your-broken-soul-with-a-prescription hell, bud.
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