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[proVIE] Mountaineer From Vienna: From Intermediate Purgatory To Advanced Stealth Awesomeness
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yeah, it was a fucking blast in Cheeseburg!
met up with Alex-, not Alexander RSD!
Dr Feelgood wrote:
It was awesome having you guys visiting me, a lot of fun! Good to finally hear the whole story about you and the blonde with the almost-bathroom-pull at Frida B.

Are you meeting Alexander RSD in Innsbruck? How come, I thought he is in the US now.

Good game in Vienna!

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Week 36 (26.11. – 02.12.)

Alright, first off I forgot to write about the Sunday in the preceding week. Unfortunately the hot brunette with was responsive at the end of the night via text overslept. Shit happens. However, she’s still responsive over text. Let’s see how it works out when I’m in town next time…

I recognized another big shift. Since I'm texting with 10+ girls regularely, getting zombie texts from girls I fucked some time ago or just got to know and "getting" more and more D2s I can "feel" the abundance now (as opposed to just "know" it on a conceptual level). The responses/results go up and up at the moment. I'm in an upward spiral. Therefore (because I don't have the time to focus time on a single girl) I take "more risks" because a single girl means less and less to me. However, I believe now that taking "more risks" is actually taking "less risks". It's because the girls can sense that you're in abundance and don't give a shit. Therefore they start to chase you. BIG MINDSET THAT FINALLY GETS INTO MY SUBCONSCIOUS…

This week I also started to follow up my FB closes. Up until now I almost did nothing with my FB closes. However, I already managed it to plow through massive shit of a superhot blonde. We will see how it works out and what the lessons will be here.

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Monday FB:
Primary FB. She cooks for me again. Delicious!

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Tuesday:
I’m back on the track in Vienna with Zonk. Catch up talk in a bar. Get my Advent calendar. No chocolate but beer!

Head over tot he most famous club on Tuesdays. Since the club is fucking empty when we arrive we just shoot the shit and also talk about internet marketing. Slowly the club fills up. Then we get it startin'. Feel awesome. Yeah, like it when girls are getting more and more aroused by you, reacting emotional.

Zonk opens a 2 set. Both not really hot. Whatever, we just enjoy the moment. The girls are getting aroused heavily. They both love us. But I’m not interested in them. Not even for a makeout. I eject. Head over to the bar where I see a supercute brunette. It’s on from the get go. I fucking own it. She’s very receptive. She knows many people there. Even talks to a huge dude who’s standing next to us at the bar. I don’t go for the makeout. As I’m writing this I cannot fully understand why I didn’t go for it. I think it was because I wanted to do it more low key and just get the number and then get some more numbers. Maybe it’s also because I got the feeling that I over-escalted back in Hamburg and this was the reason why I didn’t pull there… However, get her number and send her back to her friends.

Head over to the other floor. Zonk is there with his 2 girls from before already made out with one of them. I stay in the set for a few mins then eject from the set again. See a supercute blonde. Open. Good vibing. It’s a 4 set. Engage the other girls too. Another supercute brunette in there. I stick to the blonde one. I fucking own it. Dudes are standing around us. Chodes! Haha! Alright, they are going tot he other floor. No big deal. „later“.

Change the floor again. Bump into my brunette one from before. Some more vibing. She’s drunk so I cement my name into her mind. Find out that she’s given me the wrong number. Looks like it was by accident. Still don’t go for the makeout. Now I’m pretty sure it’s because of the fact that I don’t want the blonde one to see me with this one making out. Eject after a few minutes again.

Alright, see the blonde one from before again. Some more vibing. She tells me that she wants to dance with her friends now. Plow through. She persists. Whatever, Zonk wants to go home so I just tell her that I’m about to go home now but we should meet up. Go for the number. Nogo. Get FB.

Bump into a supercute brunette. She’s into it. Isolate her away from her friend who’s engaged with another dude. Since it’s pretty late and I have to get up pretty early AND she’s from another city go push it hard. Go fort he makeout a few times. She turns her head and smiles BUT stays. I play around with it. After some time her friend comes back in and tells her that she’s about to go and we guys should have a lot of fun. However, my girl says that she’s coming with her. They’re just going away. I don’t get it… However, I just follow them to the dancefloor and get her fucking nr. WTF is going on here!? Maybe it was the social pressure my girl felt when the other girl tells her to have fun and maybe don’t really mean it!

While leaving the club open another cute blonde at the wardrobe. I’m on fire. Go with her out of the club. She’s attempting to just go home. I stop her. Some good vibing. Tell her that I have to go to my friend now. Go for nr. Nogo. „WTF, Why No?“ - „I’m just random“. Don’t pass this shit test. Guess a good answer would’ve been „I know that this was very short and random, but I really have to go now. I think we would’ve great chemistry together. Let’s just find it out and give it a try. I’m sure that if we would have met each other earlier this night it would’ve worked out great. Yada, yada“…

Conclusion:
-this happens very often that I don’t get the nr but FB instead recently. What changed in my game in this area???
-Had again longer sets, 2 nr, 1 FB. Owning groups, very persistent, even with one girl while leaving the club, leading is happening almost automatically now!

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Wednesday Day2:
With blonde Swiss girl I approached during the day. Meet up. Go for billard. She's pretty stifled at the beginning. Don’t buy into that anymore. Do MY THING. Vibing is fucked up. I try different angles till I finally get the ball rollin. When the waiter is coming to cash the drinks she’s just standing at the billard table and waiting. I scream over to her that I'm buying the first round. Afterwards tell her that she should pay for the table (which is more or less the same price than the drinks) and that I'm going to buy the next round. Ok, she pays.

Head over to a bar around my flat. Good vibing, finally! Get her back to my place. On a physical level she's still stifled. She's the first girl that doesn't takes a seat at one of my bar stools. Throw her into the bed and immediately turn away to check something on my pc - not giving her any chance to "reject" my action, haha. Watch some family guy. Go for the makeout half-ass. She has to pick up a friend very early next day who is going to visit her over the course of the weekend. This fucks up my “time plan” a little. Whatever, throw her out of the flat.

Conclusion:
-fucking awesome that I turned the tide from “fucked up stifled” to getting her back to my place

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Thursday spontaneous Day2:
Business evening event with Zonk. Kind of a x-mas party. Texting girls 5+ girls. WTF, they're all responsive. Definitely a new level at my text game. Then a girl who is scheduled for Friday (girl who took my number instead of giving me hers) texts me if I'm spontaneous, haha. However, manage it that she picks me up with her car at the bar I am. Head over to another bar. I fucking own it. The self amusement is at a ridiculous level. Since she’s driving and not drinking any more alcohol we’re not ordering anything in the bar. Go for the makeout several times. She turns her head away. Kiss her on the cheek. A few times she says "stop it". I call her out. Tell her that that's not going to work out. I think "wtf, tonight again no kissing? What do have theses 2 girls in common? what am I doing different recently (because normally the makeout is a very common thing…)?". However, I'm fucking unreactive. Play around with it. Get her back to my place. A tiny shit test on that one haha. No big deal. Watch something. Go in for the makeout again till I finally get it! She’s just one of these "I'm not kissing on the first date" girls. Say stuff like "oh, you're not kissing on the first date!?". She's kind of like "yeah". I'm like "oh, so you're kissing on the 5th, 10th date!???". Haha, it's so fucking awesome because I don't react to that shit anymore. Back in the day it would've dropped my state and gotten weird. However, kick her out, based on my experiences everything is on track with her, she just needs more time...

Conclusion:
-Day2s are more and more on autopilot. I have no problem to self amuse over hours
-“normal” shit tests are handled mainly by my subconscious. Only big shit has to be dealt with my conscious mind
-I’m less and less reactive to any kind of shit
-big insight: recognize that there are some girls who have their “Rules” of not kissing/not fucking on the first date. Go for it but don’t go over the top. As long as you’re going for it it’s all good because you showed that you’re a man who takes action and goes for what he wants. Therefore you’re never going to get into the “friend zone”!

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Friday Day:
Naturalito is in town. Awesome, we hit it up for a few sets. Again, after not doing daygame for quite some time I’m kind of out of it.

Conclusion:
-no longer interactions and no numbers. However, I got the feeling that there were very little sets to approach. Meaning single girls who’re hot. Maybe we should go for 2 or 3sets again because there’s maybe just a limiting believe that it’s fucking hard to get something out of these (social pressure, very hard to isolate a girl, etc.)

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Friday FB:
Brief summary. After fucking Hungarian superhot blonde 3 times I didn’t get any response for over 2 weeks. WTF is going on here. Even texted her on FB (we’re no friends). Finally just call her. She just picks up. I’m like “Are you alright!?”. Turns out that she replied but I didn't got her texts...

She’s free for the night. Meet up spontaneously. Theretically the other Day2 is from the girl I met up with the night before is still kind of scheduled. Whatever, if she interpreted it that we meet up again one day later I would just go for a misunderstanding haha.

Good vibing on a christmas market. Head over to a bar where I learn some more Hungarian words and phrases. Off we go back to my place where I fuck the shit out of her again. After I go for a shower and some snuggling (15min) I get horny as fuck again and it's time for another round.

In the end she asks when we meet up again. She's now officially a FB ;-)

Conclusion:
-I always thought that she was still into me but couldn’t figure out why she didn’t response (accident?). And I was right! Big lesson learned: try as many communication channels as possible because her text responses didn’t arrive at my phone, my FB message to her got into a special tab of her site because we’re not friends at FB. Finally the simple call worked! However, don’t be needy and go for everything over the course of a few days
-my sex drive goes up and up. I get more and more horny and also horny quicker after fucking. Guess it’s an upward spiral: the more you fuck in the first place the more horny you get and the more you fuck in the second place

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Friday:
After Hungarian FB leaves my flat I head out to a relatively new club. Meet up with Zonk and Steven. I just feel awesome, what else after fucking the shit out of a superhot blonde!? Not that I don’t feel awesome if I didn’t fuck a girl an hour ago…

Open soon after entering the club. Fucking hot blonde. I go in haaaard! She's very receptive. Drunk though. I'm escalating hard. But after a minute Steve loses her brunette friend and she drags my girl away. I immediately go for the nr. She gives me FB.

Whatever, do some more sets. Then another hot blonde. She gives me some shit, haha! That's all you got? Deal with it. Awesome vibing and dynamic is building up. After 2min Steve enters the 1 on 1 set and talks bullshit. WTF dude!? Zonk pulls him away after a few seconds. I'm a little distracted by that. Suddenly the girls drag my girl away. WTF!? What a pity, this girl was hot and it looked pretty good…

One thing that pops up in my head right now – some thoughts about wings:
You surround yourself with people (wings) that have value to you. Of course a person not only has positive character traits. Therefore you’re always evaluating the value of the people around you. You use different weights to prioritize the importance of different factors (being positive, taking action, having fun and also access you get through this person to different ressources as well as the “weights” of negative behavior like being negative, talking bullshit, blowing you out of sets, being weird, etc.). Most of this happens unconsciously. However, I recently re-prioritized my weights and certain behaviors that were acceptable for me till now (because other things offset these negative things) are not acceptable any more. I can see what happened to my progress over the last couple of weeks where I wasn’t exposed to that negative behavior. Therefore my current credo is “my way or the highway”. This is also based on an abundance of wings/not needing a wing at all to head out and take action. Hence I don’t beat around the bush about that anymore.

Some more hit n run sets. Then semi-open a cute brunette. She's into it right from the get go but a little stifled. Baby step her away from the group. Lean against a pillar. She's leaning in the whole time and asks me chode questions. Lead her over to the bar. I love my newest line I've invented "I'm going to get a water for myself from the bar. Join me!". No need to think about if you’re paying for her and maybe go over the top with it because she cannot handle it... Grab her hand. Nogo. She tells me that she can go alone haha. Follows me though. More vomiting but she's too stifled to escalate it further. Every time I lean in to make something happen she tenses up. I don't know if I want to fuck her. It's more like an experiment to try new things. Then her friends are about to go. She's just in town for the weekend. Ask her if she finds the way back to her friends place on her own. She first says yes but then is hesitating. Whatever, I'm not really motivated to push it. Get her number and let her go. We call it a night.

Conclusion:
-awesome stuff. Right after fucking a FB my freedom from outcome level was high. However, and this was definitely a new experience, my intent was pretty high! Very good!
-After re-evaluating my weights about positive and negative behavior of wings that is acceptable to me some things changed! As long as it’s not affecting my state or my sets everyone can do what he wants BUT if someone blows me out of a 1 on 1 set there’s no way to accept such a behavior.

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Saturday Day:
Have lunch with Zonk and Naturalito. After that we head out for some daygame. But the ball is not really getting rollin’. Just do some sets. It’s not worth the time to write about it in detail. Little intent. Most of the time just walking around. I’m fucking tired. In the end nothing special happens.

Conclusion:
-I know that I have to step it up once again in daygame. More dedication is necessary!

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Saturday:
Head out to our fav. bar with Zonk and Steve. Shoot the shit with the staff. A few hit n run sets. Bump into a semi natural. Let’s call him Billa. He just left his GF and is getting quite good results. Maybe we will introduce him to the community or at least go out every now and then with him. I want to get as much successful people around me as possible.

Enough talking to the boys. I eject to do some more sets. 2 cute brunette girls at the bar. They're into it. After a few mins Zonk joins in. After a few mor mins Steven joins in. It’s a 2 on 2 set – why the fuck!? It's unnecessary on a 2 on 2 set.

Alright, I eject to get myself another mineral water. See a hot blonde one at the bar. Open her. Goes pretty good. Then her friend comes back. They didn't see each other for quite some time. Whatever, go for the nr, get FB. Whatever, have to work on FB closes anyway. It's all good, get back to the 2 brunette set for a few mins. Still 3 on 2. Eject another time. Open a very cute brunette. Her friend is ok with it. My girl seems very into it. After like 10 min Steve stands next to us. I introduce them. Finally I'm alone with my girl. Isolate her away from her friend (facing away). Good vibing. Then Zonk engages the other girl. Get a pretty good feeling. The other girl looks over a few times but my girl is facing me so she doesn't recognize it. After a few more mins the girls talk for a few secs and are about to head away telling me that they're heading to the bar. Lost many girls because you never know what happens: they bump into some friends, get approached by other dudes, a friend gets sick, etc. Therefore I go for the nr. Nogo, because "we're back in a few mins". Ok, however they don't come back for 10 mins. Zonk and I get another round of glorious mineral water and look for other sets. Open a fucking hot and pretty tall blonde which is sitting with her friend. Good vibing, little physicality. I'm fucking chill. Go for the nr, nogo. Her last relationship just ended, blabla. I persist, play around with it but still nogo. However, good thing is that I recognized another level of unreactiveness to a "No", good stuff!

See a supercute blonde girl. Open her direct as always. They're already about to go. I push hard because I have nothing to lose! Her friends are dragging her away. I just grab her and pull her back in. Persist for the nr with “I know this is all random but if we would have had time I’m pretty sure it would’ve worked out well. Therefore let’s give it a try and do something soon”. Nogo, but get FB.

Alright, right before we leave the bar, I see again the cute brunette that "bathroomed" me and Zonk. Go back in (seated). She behaves strange. Next to her sits a strange dude. Start to vomit again. Nogo. Then the dude tries to tool me. I'm not reacting to it. Just talk to her. However, she's ignoring me. I eject. Later Zonk tells me that she maybe was that way because she hasn't seen me for quite some time in between and she was longer in set with this guy and didn't want to ruin it. Definitely a possible explanaition

Head over to another bar. Only chodes and ugly/old girls

Next venue. Almost empty but one hot blonde girl from France. I go in. Good vibing. However, she has a BF and tells me about her serious love for him. Sooo, I'm not going to ruin something like this...

Alright it's too late for another venue so Zonk and I just head to a bar around the corner for a Beer and some deep talking about our recent progress and current situation.

Conclusion:
-it’s more and more the case that attraction isn’t the problem any more. It’s more and more about logistics… awesome stuff
-didn’t really get the behavior of the cute brunette. May it’s really what Zonk said: she didn’t want to ruin her current set with this dude because she probably already invested quiet some time…
-again, told Steve that his behavior is not acceptable to me that he enters sets which are 1 on 1 or 2 on 2


Alright, that’s all for this week. Enjoy your track (it’s a mashup with red carped of a track I already posted a few weeks ago). Fucking awesome! Talk to you next week!


Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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#73
Dr Feelgood

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Mountaineer- wrote:
One thing that pops up in my head right now – some thoughts about wings:
You surround yourself with people (wings) that have value to you. Of course a person not only has positive character traits. Therefore you’re always evaluating the value of the people around you. You use different weights to prioritize the importance of different factors (being positive, taking action, having fun and also access you get through this person to different ressources as well as the “weights” of negative behavior like being negative, talking bullshit, blowing you out of sets, being weird, etc.). Most of this happens unconsciously. However, I recently re-prioritized my weights and certain behaviors that were acceptable for me till now (because other things offset these negative things) are not acceptable any more. I can see what happened to my progress over the last couple of weeks where I wasn’t exposed to that negative behavior. Therefore my current credo is “my way or the highway”. This is also based on an abundance of wings/not needing a wing at all to head out and take action. Hence I don’t beat around the bush about that anymore.

Lol, I think we talked about stuff like that... I can imagine what that means and I say go for it...

The thing I forgot to mention when we talked is the rule that you become like the people you surround yourself with. This is so, so, so true, I see it again and again everywhere around me and can feel it for myself. I think this might be the most important rule overall, bare none, and that is why I'm strict about the people I surround myself with. It really pays off!

On that note - have fun in Amsterdam...! :)

PS: Keep on rocking! When I saw you, I was impressed by the progress you had made in the time we hadn't seen each other. You are doing awesome stuff!
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@Feelgood:
yeah, we talked about it in Cheeseburg...

I'm completely aware of the rule of "you're the average of the 5 people you hang out the most". however, I deliberately used it to get me more unreactive (to shit) because I'm constantly exposed to it. Since I think that I'm pretty much unreactive to it as I can be I cut out any further bullshit in that direction from now on because it's just an energy leak.
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Week 37 (03.12. – 09.12.)

It’s Sunday evening as I’m writing these lines. Accomplished one important thing. Slept pretty much over the last couple of days. After being constantly sleep deprived it feels pretty good to finally be in a more relaxed and recovered state.

Watched the newest videos of Alexander and it completely fucked up my mind. Especially the part where he speaks about tempering your intent. This is the complete opposite of everything else I heard from RSD before and I did for myself.

Had plenty of sets that went pretty smooth but I wasted time because I found out about BFs fucking late. Normally I would’ve said that I need to be more polarizing and showing more intent again (like in the past where I knew in 5min if she was down or not…) but this is kind of a contradiction to Alexanders videos. I’m kind of paralyzed a little bit now…

I also have too much “trash” in my “fuck funnel” since girls I meet up with are not down for the makeout at the second day2 or too stifled to get touched at all. WTF!?!?! This never happened to me in the past…

However, since I’m operating in a more chill low key game now I’m eager to fully understand how this Alexander style all works. I’m sure the Alexander Hotseat in Amsterdam in January will clarify that! Otherwise I’m FUCKED!

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Monday FB:
Had some drama cuz I just fucked her once and then turned my head into a bad position on the couch which got me some pain every time I moved my head. Wasn't motivated to fuck her a further time. Because she's horny as fuck she opens her drawer and pulls out her vibrator. Starts to play around. Of course I get horny as fuck by that and start to fuck her. Funny stuff. I like the trust level we have now that she doesn’t feel like a for doing that stuff… I’m looking forward to what’s coming next on that end haha

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Tuesday Day2:
Day2 with Polish brunette cutie. Meet up for some Glühwein (glogg). Just "waste" 45 mins for that. Then lead her to a bar next to my apartment. After one Glühwein my sugar demand is already reached and I need a beer haha.

Good vibing. I just feel completely chill. No need to impress. Tell awesome stories. Makeout. Everything is just flowing. Pull her back to my place. Good storytelling. I fucking love it. Makeout. She says "I just want to clarify that I'm not going to sleep with you". Haha, I’m completely unreactive and just tell her that she's cute. Throw her into the bed and go away (like I did the week before). Go into the kitchen. She's still sitting in the bed after 1minute. Yeah, join her. Heavy makeout and grinding in the bed. Then I just pull back and go back into the kitchen. I fucking love that (being the “hot girl”). She follows me. Some more vibing. She has to prepare something for university the next day so I kick her out of my flat.

Conclusion:
-No bang town Vienna YET. Who cares! There is no need to rush it. As long as you escalate every time and push it forward it’s all good. However, she already asked for another day2…

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Tuesday:
Perfect timing when Polish girl leaves my place (10 pm). Call up Zonk. He's just about to head out to a club. I join him. Like last week the venue is very empty at the beginning. We shoot the shit. Having fun. Opening a few sets. The girls are into it. I'm not persistent YET.

Steve joins in. My state goes down. But just a little bit. I'm not reacting to it anymore. It literally made me harder. Guess that’s one of the factors that made me fucking unreactive to girls giving me shit!

Just go and open a blonde hottie in a 2set. Boom, it's on. Zonk wings me. We're fucking good wings by now. Everything runs fucking smooth now. However, of course there’s potential to improve like isolate them earlier from each other.

Engaging our girls. Good stuff! Good vibing. Then more friends of them join in. Awesome, I shoot the shit with the other girls. I'm very comfortable. Then they head over to the other floor. I'm fine with that. I will see her later. Some other sets. Recetly the girls are pretty much into it right from the get to. Have to take care that I don't develop another ego around that! Bump into my blonde hottie again later. Lead her away from her friends. She gives me shit the whole time. Lead her further. She complies. Go for the makeout 15 times. Nogo, but she stays. I don't get it...

Then she wants to get a drink. She persists for several times. Then Tylers video about the girl who persisted for a drink pops into my head. Tyler told about the fact that in the end he bought her a drink and after she just sips 2 times she's ready to get pulled back to her place and get fucked. However, I'm hesitant. Don't buy her a drink. Guess it’s because of the fear that after buying her a drink she maybe leaves… In the end I just say stuff like “enough” and go away.

Conclusion:
-I’m awesome! Haha
-I know that from a PROCESS standpoint it wasn't the best thing to just go away not going for the number. Now I will never know what would happened if I would've gone for the number...!

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Wednesday:
Another fucking interesting talk with Zonk at my place. These talks are very good to reflect about recent things that happened and to find new blind spots and sticking points.

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Thursday:
Head out with Zonk to our fav. bar. Do some warmup sets. The bar is pretty empty. Then a dude approaches me and tells me that he’s my wing man now. CHODE. However, for the fun of it I just go for a round with him. He opens a set talking crazy shit and buying them a drink. I’m about to go when he wants me to engage the other girl. However, after some time I find my girl quite interesting. She knows how to flirt. After some time Zonk joins in. It gets more of a group discussion where I’m kind of choded out a little. We talk about it and go for 1 on 1 again. It “looks” pretty good. In the end go for the number, Nogo. Why? Because there’s no reason to give me her number. WTF is that!

Zonk reopens a set. It’s a polish brunette (definitely not my type) and a blonde cutie (my type haha). Good thing that Zonk and I have quite a different taste!

Looks like they’re both high… my girl even buys me a drink. Then gives me shit! I’m not reacting to it. Try to lead her. She freaks out. I’m not reacting to it. 1 minute later she’s all over me again. Then again shit. WTF…

They go to the dancefloor. After some time I see a huge dude talking to her. Haha, let’s blow this chode out! Go back in “I’m back”. Her attention is fully on me. More vibing. The chode goes away after 1min standing next to us in spectator mode. After some time I get a little into my head and think about if I even want to fuck this potential crack head… guess my indecisiveness fucks it up in the end. I eject.

Conclusion:
-strong frame. Blowing out chodes is fun from time to time haha
-somehow a little older girls have something exciting too. Another type of energy that they’re radiating…
-got a little reactive to the older brunette one. She exactly knew what she was doing haha

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Friday Day:
After lunch with Zonk go to a store. Do no sets because many people there. Fury builds up again. On the street right before we leave the big shopping street Zonk pushes me a little to open a girl who's on the phone. I take the chance and open her. Good vibing after some initial intimidation on her side. Gives me her nr. I'm not sure if it's real...

Conclusion:
-shit, my daygame is fucking rusty. Biggest sticking point is that I don’t approach for quite a long time at the beginning of the session
-as soon as I do the first set I get the ball rollin’. Fuck, I know it from a conceptual point of view but still am not able to just do it…

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Friday Day2:
Meet up with blonde cutie again (gave her my nr in the club). She’s driving so no drinks. Go to the same bar again. She gives me shit. Where the fuck is this going. Pull her back home. Watch some stuff. Go for the makeout. Nogo. ENOUGH! Start a discussion that she’s acting weird. She tells me that she often needs one month to be ready for the makout and sometimes half a year to get fucked. I’m getting a little angry. Frame her as an alien. Tell her that I’m not interested in a platonic thing. This girl is not that hot so I don’t give a shit at all. Alright, time to get the hell out of my flat. Let her drive me to a club.

Conclusion:
-this is fucked up. Really get too much trash into my day2 queue…
-Next day she texts me when to meet up again. What the fuck is going on here!? At least a good reference experience for not giving a shit, addressing stuff like that directly and she’s still motivated to meet up.
-however, I’m glad that I used this day2 and the day2 from the day before to practice communicating my borders hardcore

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Friday:
After day2-girl drops me off at the club I’m motivated to take action. Zonk and Steve arrive at the same time there. Not much going on there. Open the first set. Bday girl. I’m going in hard. She’s getting aroused hard. Then some Lady Gaga stuff is played and they’re gone. Girls…

Open the next girl. Hot brunette. Lead her away from her friends. Then sit down. Good vibing. After 30min I “find out” that she has a bf. Nooo! This whole “showing no intent” thing fucks up my mind. I don’t get the info that a girl has a bf any more. That suxx.

After that I call it a night…

Conclusion:
-no comment

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Saturday Day2:
And here’s another example of trash I got into my “fuck funnel” based on my attempt to show less intent. This girl is too stifled to get touched at all. She’s living in a completely different world…

However, because I know that this is going nowhere I try some new stuff. Tell her that I’m going to my place to cook something for myself. She gives me shit like “and if I’m not coming with you back to your place”. I just respond with “then I go alone. I’m hungry”. Of course she’s coming back to my place afterwards…

Conclusion:
-Somehow this day2 was not completely a waste of time because I get some reference experience based on me don’t giving a shit AT ALL. Clearly communicating “my way or the highway”
-she’s texting me later that she wants to meet up the next day. For that matter definitely a good reference experience that even though I directly communicate them my borders and that they are acting weird they are down to meet up again

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Saturday:
Head out to our fav. bar with Zonk. Later Steve joins in. After seeing the newest article of Alexander where he talks about ignoring intent and focussing on time my mind is fucked up and I'm in kind of a mindfucked state. After some good initial responeses nothing seems to work.

Turkish supercute brunette. It goes pretty smooth again. Some physicality. Find out about the bf pretty late. AGAIN! Damnit!

Long set with blonde cutie. Go in very direct at the beginnning. Befriend the friends. Isolate her again. Don‘t really go fort he makeout because of my fucked up mindset. However, get the nr. I'm a little hesitant to escalate. Alex style + social pressure vs. Intent. WAAHAHAH

Conclusion:
-I’m fucked…


That’s it for the week. Enjoy your track and I talk to you next week!



Cheers,
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Hey bro!

Regarding your confusion about Alexanders~ game: Maybe you shouldn't think too much about it for the moment. As your game was already very good without focusing so much on Alexanders~ style, maybe you should not shift to much your type of game.
It could also be that Juliens/Brads style just fits you more. And I'm sure the bootcamp with Alexander~ will clarify a lot. 

And regarding the "trash" you got to your "fuck funnel": I'm sure it's just coincidence that you got some of these girls, now.

Cheer up!
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Week 38 (10.12. – 16.12.)

Hello, Hello!
Well, I’m a week late. Needed some time to catch up with the massive new content. Watched Brads Evolutions. Good stuff! It’s a well structured collection of “Brads Style” from beginner to advanced level.

Some recent thoughts about text game:
Will try to send the "get home safe" texts earlier in the evening. If they are sober enough maybe you can do something afterwards and they will remember you better the next day. However, problem with that is that if the girl is drunk this "shot" is wasted because she probably not even recognizes the text and cannot remember the next day and you cannot use it afterwards anymore. So conclusion is to write sober girls earlier in the night and drunken ones pretty late so that they read it when they wake up the next day.

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Monday FB:
Primary FB

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Tuesday FB:
Hungarian FB
She brings me a little out of balance during sex because she said like she wants it harder. Haha, I gave it harder to her but the result was that I came pretty early.

Yeah fucked 2 girls in a day since I fucked my Primary FB in the morning!

Conclusion:
-Lesson learned! Be centered also during sex! Don’t let a girl bring you out of control/balance during sex. Know other things to fuck her that she gets the feeling that she cannot do it any longer haha.

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Thursday Day:
Head out with Especial. We around. Need some time to get the ball rollin. Cannot remember any details. Some girls with BF I guess...

Conclusion:
-pussying around is a NOGO. It doesn’t matter how long you didn’t daygame!

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Thursday:
Head out to fav. bar with Zonk. Interesting discussion with Zonk about investment and insurance since we both have to make some decisions about it the next day.

I'm not motivated to approach at first because it is more important to talk about that stuff which affects the rest of your life! Later almost all the hotties are gone. Completely express my boundaries on an ugly fatty that tries to interrupt my convo with the hottie (I just call her out that she has a "fat girl personality" even though she's fat...; haha, this doesn’t make any sense because it should have been a “hot girl personality”!). Awesome that I don’t give a shit by calling fucking brats out!

Later a mixed 2set. In the end I lead the whole group back to a bar right around our corner. We’re both not really into the girl but it’s just another reference experience to pull a mixed set back to you place and in the best case get rid of the dude. When the girl is in my bed I have still time to think about what I want to “do to her”. Unfortunately the bar is already closing. Go for the pull to my flat. Nogo. They themselves out. Whatever, it was just a social experiment.

Conclusion:
-calling bitches out for bad behavior (=expressing personal boundaries) seems pretty much completely internalized. Good stuff!
-awesome that I went for the mixed set pull even though it was pretty late and I didn’t want to fuck the girl. It’s all about the reference experience and do deal with shit that comes along the process!

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Friday Day:
Head out with Especial. He’s on fire and motivates us. I know that he’s completely right and that this pussying around recently is complete bullshit and has to go NOW.

I love his motivation like sending each other into sets because otherwise we around too much. After some time I really get into the mood.

My approach now is to make some street sets at the beginning because there are no sales people looking at you there. Seems like this is the solution for my current sticking point of being pretty hesitant during day in shops.

Approach a cute brunette in a clothing store. She's a private shopper. WTF. She kindly gets rid of me. Too strong frame. Outside walking brunette cutie. She's into it from the get go. Screen for logistics. She has 1 hour time. Aweseom, go for insta date after 2min in the set. She's down. Good stuff. I go for it even though she's not really my type. Good practice! Good vibing. In the end go for the nr. Nogo, she wants to have my number. Whatever

At that point I'm on fire. Re-Join Especial. Off we go to a supermarket. I guess I can say that it’s our fav. supermarket now. It’s FUCKING AWESOME. Big market with lots of place and lots of new people every 5mins. You can stay there for an hour without someone noticing that you’re already there for that long time.

Some girls with BF/married. Damnit! Then I see a blonde hottie. As I’m already holding products in both hands I'm a little handicapped. Especial goes in pretty quick. Damnit. He gets her number. Good stuff!

At the metro station see a walking blonde hottie. Go in. She's into it but has a BF. FUCKING DAMNIT this girl was hot. Then another blonde cutie. Also has a bf. Whatever. The most important thing is that I'm back on fire during day!

Conclusion:
-we should definitely push each other more to not around that much!
-my new approach to daygame is to open on the street right after heading out to the street because I KNOW THAT I JUST HAVE TO GET THE BALL ROLLIN

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Friday:
Start with Especial at our fav. bar. It's packed full. Lot of cuties. Right after entering I go one round around the bar and open 5 sets with medium intent. Almost all girls are into it. Some vibing and then eject for the next set. Recognized that this is a good approach to warm up and to get recognized in the venue. Looks like you know many people there even if you actually don't. However the intent is a little bit lower then I go normally direct into a set.

After finishing the round I go for the cutest one. Turns out she's from Germany. The alert reader knows that I have a limiting belief about German girls in Austria. However, good vibing. Isolate her from the group by getting her to follow me and turn around 180 degrees. She's fully focussed on me. Little physicality. I try this shit now this way (Alex style).

Especial is not used to nightgame and still stifled. He's standing next to us and looking and listening what I'm doing. Good stuff because I learn to get more unreactive even though someone is deliberately looking in detail what I'm saying and doing. After some time her whole group is about to go. Get the number (she's responding a couple of times during the night).

Steve joins in. The two are hitting it up together. Good stuff, so I can take action without chode talk about game the whole time haha. Some more sets. I can feel more and more the befriend everyone thing. Thats the way you fly under the radar with the dudes and if the girls see you're part of the group now they are more down also (social proof). Not that this means that my intent is too low...

Some time later Zonk joins us. We're about to go when I see a cute brunette in a 2set. Of course I go in - what else!? Haha. Good vibing. Steve engages the other girl. Then the other one wants to go to the bathroom with my girl. Since we already wanted to go I go for the nr. Nogo, WTF? Maybe it was because I was a little too reactive because I thought if I should go for the number now or later (when she gets back from the bathroom)...

Off we go to the toughest club. On the way there shooting the shit with a bouncer of a club we don't want to go into because of the long queue. Then see a seated smoking hot 2 set on a bench on the street. Back in the day I wouldn't even have considered to open or maybe would've openend them but it would've been very weird. Now I just do it and feel awesome. They give me some shit but are into it. Good vibing. Get a little physical. However, we have to go. So I get the number

Then we wait in the queue for 20-30min. Whatever, I'm on fire and open right after entering. This night the club feels like kindergarten even though it's the toughest club in my opinion and it's not the one special party in a month where there are more chill people. Open the first in the hallway of the club. Cute Slovakian girl which lived in France for the last few years. She's alone and looking for her friends –WHAT ELSE!? Pretty good vibing. Then she's about to look for them on the dancefloor. I don't want to go to the dancefloor with her. Tell her that I have to get back to my friends again. Get the nr. Guess it’s not that solid.

Go back to the boys. Shoot the shit with them for a few minutes but then my intent kicks back in. I don't want to chode around so I get the boys movin' and we head over to the dancefloor. See a fucking cute brunette. Go in hardcore direct - what else!? Haha, she's into it and pretty touchy. After 2min I lead her away from the dancefloor. Good vibing. Go for the makeout. She's leaning back a little so she gets a kiss on each cheek. I know that she's fucking down. Definitely a byproduct of the huge amout of references I gathered over time. 2min later we're making out. Then she wants to go back to their friends and introduce me to her twin sister. Since this will be on the fucking loud dancefloor I don't want to. Maybe it's stupid but I go for the number and eject.

Some more sets, I'm in the zone but nothing special happens. Some girls with BFs... later I’m looking to find the brunette cutie again. But she’s gone.

Conclusion:
- As I’m writing this right now (watched more of Alexanders stuff) it seems fucking stupid that I didn’t stay in the set. Could have moved the whole group to a more quiet area of the club. Number flaked. Stupid me!
-good stuff that I approached the seated street set and was completely chill
-first time where I deliberately tempered my intent and “wasted” time. This girl is pretty responsive via texts now

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Saturday Day:
Lunch with Zonk and Especial. The guys are using some of my texts in their text game. Awesome!
Zonk announces that he's going to start a JOURNAL! Finally!

This will help him significantly in his progress! Later this day this little “nice guy” motherfucker is going to lay an FHM cover girl!
Definitely check out Zonks Journal Zonks time in Vienna - adventures of a Wiener

Then we head out for some daygame. I'm on fire right from the get go and open the first girl on the street. BF, shit. Get into a store. Open a cute blonde. She giggles like hell but goes away. A sales girl is standing near us so I don't hold her back. Damnit! See her later after some time when she comes my way and try to reopen her. Nogo, she doesn't stop.

Some more girls on the street. WTF, it's like everyone who's out today has a BF. Then we enter our fav. supermarket for daygame. LOL, as I’m writing this I see that I already wrote almost the same explanation of the supermarket here in the notes for Saturday as I wrote for the previous day.

Again BFs. Then a very weird girl in a long time and another one in the metro. Some people are very negative and should better stay at home!

Conclusion:
-awesome daygame session where I took action right from the get go!
-why are there so many BFs now. Coincidence or just a bluff!?

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Saturday:
Head out with Especial and Steve to a party of a dance school where Steve attended a class. WTF, 16yo girls there... I'm paralyzed since I don't want to talk to such little girls. Fortunately I find some girls >=20. Fucking own it. Get the number of a very cute brunette one. Even though it’s pretty short it seems pretty solid but flakes.

Head over to a club. Shoot the shit with the bouncers. No big deal at all anymore. Only dudes are getting in. We say fuck it and head over to another club. First set immediately after entering. Cute brunette one. After 2min a dude comes along saying "Dude, 5min are over and you still don't have the number. You're done". Actually that’s a good line. Guess I will use it in the future for my own! However, I don't react to it and just continue to vomit. Unfortunately after 2 more minutes some song starts to play and she looks at a friend and just runs away. WTF!

After that I bump into a smoking hot blonde one, she tells me that we already know each other. She looks familiar but I don't have a clue. Then she tells me that I approached her a few days ago during the day. I remember, she's the hired gun (sales girl) from the underware store. She's married but introduces me to her sister, a brunette cutie, who’s not married. Not as hot as the blonde one but hot too. Some vibing. She's pretty physical. Try to semi isolate her by leading her to turn away from her friends. Doesn't really work out. Then the friends want her back. Go for nr. She doesn't know her number. She tries to give me her FB but just knows her name in Cyrillic. Searches for a friend of her in FB. Then find herself and add her in her friends friend list. Strange shit. However, we will see how solid this is going to be.

Then I see a girl in a wheelchair. I never ever approached someone in a wheelchair in my life because it just feels sooooo weird for me. Have to push my comfort zone! Go in not as hard as I normally do. Good vibing. The girl is fucking cute and touchy. However, I don't want to "use" her since I don't want a relationship. Now I know how I could have handled it: just tell her how it is: she's cute but I'm not looking for a relationship. No one knows how this would've turned out…

Some more sets. Nothing special happens except a hot blonde that I approach is getting dragged away hard by a tall brunette. She's really pissed. Don't understand why these people are so negative. They should stay at home.

Enough of this club! On the way out I go for the number of brunette girl (first I did in the venue). Nogo, yeah, whatever…

Head over to our fav. bar. Right after entering open a cute brunette. She's not reacting to me at all at the beginning. I'm about to eject when I say to myself "fuck it, let's stick to this!". Completely turn it around. She's into it but drunk. Try to lead her to the bar with "I'm going to grab a mineral water, join me!" However, I lose her on the way there. She's staying right at the place. Get back in. Some vibing. Then a friend of her talks to her while I'm talking to my boys. Tell her that she should talk to her friend and I'm going to head back to some friends and we'll see each other later

Do another blonde one. The girl doesn't even turn around to talk to me. I don't give a shit. Recognized something very interesting: normally I'm vomiting all the time at the beginning. However, since I wasn't sure if I really want her I kind of stop talking. I can feel the silence and tension that builds up. However, I KNOW that I can plow through it but I deliberately wait for another moment before I do so. Awesome!

Wing Steve in a set. Then we're about to go home. Go back in to my brunette one. Some vibing. Get right into her face. Go for the makeout. She turns her head. I don't react. She likes it. Get the nr and we call it a night!

Conclusion:
-fucking awesome that I talked to the girl in the wheelchair. The intent was not to fuck her in particular but to get this thing handled. This was more of a general comfort zone push (could have happened in the daytime also)
-fucked up and angry people should stay at home. Period!
-awesome, that I know that I can vomit through akward silence and just for fun don’t do it for a moment!


Another action rich week is over. Enjoy your track and I talk to you soon!


Oh, and for all chodes here that never made out with a girl before here you can learn how to make out the chode way haha.


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#78
Zonk~

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Mountaineer- wrote:
Completely express my boundaries on an ugly fatty that tries to interrupt my convo with the hottie (I just call her out that she has a "fat girl personality" even though she's fat...; haha, this doesn’t make any sense because it should have been a “hot girl personality”!). Awesome that I don’t give a shit by calling fucking brats out!
That was so hilarious! Have to laugh again when reading it.
Well done! ;)
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Week 39 (17.12. – 23.12)

Ey!

Currently enjoying some chill time with my family in the countryside. This definitely gives me time to get some altitude and look at things from a different (more strategic) angle as opposed to always being deep in the trenches.

Ordered books for over 400 EUR. I’m going to read more again. “More” is not really adequate because I didn’t read a single book page since August. However, I didn’t have time because I was either working, approaching girls, reading articles on RSDN, writing FRs or sleeping. But more about that in the next week I guess…

My game was fucked up over the last couple of weeks (results went significantly down) in my attempt to incorporate Alexanders style into my game. This fucked up my mind and quite a few things didn’t make sense. AT ALL. However, watched Alexanders bonus videos this week and they started a big shift in my perception of game. Many things are pretty clear now and I’m getting the big picture. The pillars of his style (Creating Initiative, Enduring Tests and Physicality) make so much more sense now. IMO these 3 bonus videos plus the NIM manifesto have the quality of an own product!

Guess it will need some time to see actual results and bring my game back up to an even higher level. Definitely looking forward to Hotseat and Bootcamp in Amsterdam to resolve anything that is still unclear. I’m sure that this weekend will be an even bigger epiphany than the HS/BC weekend in Munich in March.

I can see that the numbers I get are more and more solid. Guess this is the result of longer sets instead of rushing it. More girls are responsive and they’re down for the Day2. We will see where this all leads.

Within this week I’m already crossing the 200 page mark. This is the biggest “thing” I’ve ever written! Good that it’s not about some theoretical topic but about me taking action in the field! Fuck Yeah!

Anyway, let’s get into the details of this week!

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Monday FB:
Primary FB
Some drama caused by her. I’m completely unreactive just calling her cute. She can feel my masculine polarity and centeredness. Next day she apologizes for her behavior. Awesome!

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Tuesday:
Meet up with Zonk for kind of business dinner. It’s time to blow some money in a fine restaurant once a year at least. Good contrast!

We have a blast and don’t give a shit. Get creative and text many girls (10+). Play with the responses. Hilarious!

Head over to the biggest party on Tuesdays. Pretty young girls there again. Right after entering Zonk introduces me to a random girl that walks by. She's not really hot. Dude... But it's just the warmup, so whatever. Turns out that her friend is way hotter. But I'm not fast enough as Zonk already engages her. After a few mins I think to myself where this is going. I know that if I stick to it probably something will happen, but I'm not interested in her. Zonk goes for a venue change to the other floor. I eject on the way there to open some girls that I actually want to fuck ;-)

Sooo, here we go! Some hit and run sets. 3set with one super cute brunette and 2 boring other girls who constantly try to disctract my girl. Zonk wings me but loses motivation after a few mins because the other 2 are just uninteresting. Then a barkeeper comes along and spills some drinks onto me by accident. He is very sorry and offers me to bring something to dry it. I say "Ey! You bring me a free drink now!" In a loud and hard breaking rapport tonality. Love it! He gets intimidated and says ok like a little girl. After he left I recognize that the girls are gone. Fucking drag away girls! My girl was pretty invested but her friends constantly tried to distract her and drag her away. Damnit!

After that almost just hit and run sets. Nothing special happens except that one guy gets into one of my sets. He's quite good. However, I immediately frame it like she has a cute and nice bf, "That's not my bf" (typical response btw). Don't like her teeth. Teeth are definitely a big attraction factor for me. Try to do something new and have some fun. So my goal is to distract the guy and bring him along with me and let the girl all alone. Haha, it works. Strong frame. After that we do some sets together. Nothing special happens. We call it a night.

Conclusion:
-good self amusement
-new creative ideas for text game came into being
-this introducing shit has to go. For warmup in an intimidating venue or if someone is completely out of state it’s ok but in other cases it’s just a stupid waste of time. Especially if there’s just one girl in sight…
-conviced a guy to let go of the girl and instead do some sets with me. Hilarious!

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Wednesday FB:
Hungarian FB
Visit her at home. She's living together with a gay dude and another Hungarian dude. She's a little sick and welcomes me in sloppy look and looks a little exhausted. I'm not used to see her that way since she is top styled normally. They're cooking dinner. Haha. Then it's time to eat. I shoot the shit. It's always "funny" since you don't know what she told them who is going to come. Is it "a friend", her bf, or something else... The gay dude is asking questions like how long we know each other and where we met. I'm thinking about what I would answer if he asks if we're together. This would be tough shit. Normally I don't have these social gatherings with FBs because I just meet them 1 on 1 to not have to deal with that shit. Fortunately he doesn't asks this specific question.

Problem is that I didn't really frame it that I'm the asshole type of guy back in the day since it's significantly easier to do that during night game! However, after dinner we're sitting in the living room till I finally realize that it's my role to lead her into her room. If I don’t do anything we’re just wasting time and probably nothing will happen. I was just waiting for stuff to happen, stupid me! Off we go into her room. After the door is closed she gets pretty physical. 5min later I'm already fucking her. After 2 hours of fucking her, snuggling and fucking her again it's time to get home. She asks me 3 times if I want to sleep at her place. I say that I have to get some stuff done.

Conclusion:
-good reference experience to deal with a FB in a social gathering. I never ever had to face this kind of situation.
-she’s obviously into me hard core. Have to take care to subtly communicate that this is not an exclusive relationship

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Thursday:
2 business events in the evening. Get a little buzzed at the first one since I drink 2 Glühwein in 1 hour. Afterwards a concert. I'm more in a work headspace but when cute girls come along I automatically approach them. HELL YEAH, it's gotten pretty deep into my subconscious now to approach during night time. Daygame is a different story...

However get one number, not very solid I guess. The rest is hit and run. Since the band is a little alternative there are not really hot girls there. Zonk and I eject as early as possible to head over to our fav. bar where we enjoy a Käsekrainer hotdog. After one last set we call it a night. Don't like drunken game any more...

Conclusion:
-awesome that even though I was in a business setting I approached girls that came along. Mindset for this settings is “I’m a social guy that gets to know new people pretty fast”
-“of course” I don’t go in hardcore. It’s definitely not a good thing to be too intense in front of colleagues -> therefore Alexanders style is definitely the right approach!

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Friday Day:
Lunch with Zonk. Afterwards we go home since I need some time to catch up with content and get other stuff done. In a supermarket I see a girl. Don't approach her right away because I get some milk and then she's almost gone for good. When I see her leaving the supermarket I give Zonk 20 EUR and tell him to pay for me. Head out and open her. She's a little intimidated for a second but then opens up quickly. Unfortunaltey BF. Whatever, I went for it. That’s all that counts!

Conclusion:
-another comfort zone push since this girl was almost gone but I made a deliberate effort to approach her in a new environment! AWESOME!

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Friday:
Head out with Zonk and Especial to try out some new bars. As we arrive we can see that they're not really game-friendly. Just seated and big groups. So we skip it

Back to our fav. bar. Do some sets. Open a 2set. Zonk joins.

Recognize something. It’s not good when one person is in a 2set and the other one joins with the effect that all 4 talk in one thread. Is better to separate and try to isolate them as soon as possible (immediately)! Otherwise one (who is more in state/has better game) is going to get all the attention of both girls and the other one kind of chodes himself out.

We're constantly thinking about where to go next. That’s kind of fucking it up a little because we don't go into more sets. Just after deciding to go to another bar I see an older but still hot blonde girl standing next to us. My first thought is to go in. The only thing that is holding me back is that we decided to head over to another bar NOW and that there are no more girls to approach.

Head over to a club that was pretty good back in the day but has been closed. Fortunately it reopened recently. We arrive. OMG, this is an RNB/Hip Hop party. Definitely not my thing! I can feel that the venue is going to overwhelm me. Even though there are not really hot girls in sight I know that I have to take action immediately because otherwise I will get into a state of paralyzation. So I open a cute brunette one. She’s pretty slim but has an ass like a swiss ball. Good convo. After some time she mentions that she has a BF and I cannot touch her NOW because her friends are standing next to us. I get what she’s trying to communicate to me: “NOW it’s not possible. Wait till we are alone later”. However, while we’re talking she is going to build a joint. That’s definitely the time when I eject. Fuck this shit!

Then I see a hot brunette coming along. Stop her. Some vibing. Then she has to get back to her friends. Don’t want to stay in this marihuana place any longer so I go for the number. I can see that she’s almost going to give it to me but then decides not to. “we will see each other later”. Since I didn’t talk to Zonk if we want to stay there any longer I don’t persist for the number. As I’m writing this right now I know that it would’ve been better to persist for the number because we left the club right after that.

Conclusion:
-FUCK DRUGS!
-separate and if possible isolate girls as fast as possible in a 2 on 2 constellation!

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Saturday Day:
Lunch with Zonk and Especial. Don't chode around and do some sets right from the get go. Italian brunette hottie in a store. At first she seems pretty intimidated. Statement of empathy. She opens up. I don't know but she wants to go. Go for nr. Nogo. Damnit. Some other sets. Almost just BF und married girls. Whatever...

Conclusion:
-fuck yeah! I take action right from the get go on the street

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Saturday:
Head out with Zonk, Especial and Steve to our fav. bar. I'm in an relaxed awesome mood. After watching the 3 bonus videos from Alexander I'm about to get the big picture of his style and it all makes sense.

Open a girl who's coming from the bathroom. After some time she's telling me that she has to get back to her friend because a creepy guy approached her friend before. When we arrive at her friend I see Zonk talking to her friend. Haha, what a creepy guy! Zonk is definitely the most creepy guy in the venue. Call her out on her judgement in a funny way. Turns out that my girl talked about another dude in the first place. However, my girl doesn't respond very well. I plow through but she's just sitting on her bar stool not even turning herself to me. If a girl doesn't respond for 5min ok, but after 30 min there’s definitely a timelimit reached where I imagine how this girl will be later on in isolation and think to myself that she's not worth it. On top of that comes the fact that she's from Germany. Despite the fact that I'm working on this negative believe (even had some very positive experiences that are going to this limiting believe) I say fuck it and eject. Zonks girl is down and it will probably even work better if I eject.

Some short sets. Not worth to be mentioned. Then I see a 2set. Cute brunette and strange looking blonde. Go in. She's down from the get go. Good vibing. Steve engages the other one. Now I'm going to play it Alexander style. Vibing the shit out of the interaction with showing intent from time to time just to express that I'm capable of it if I want to. Don't even go for the makeout. Her friend is giving us time and space to get to know each other. Question is if it's supported by this more friendly and engaging style or if she has a pre disposition to let her friend enjoy some time with a guy alone. Anyway, awesome stuff! Then we're about to move on to the next venue. Get the number which is a no- brainer. Already screen for a possible day2 date.

Alright, we head over to another club where Feelgood who’s in town for Christmas is already waiting for us. Right before the club and while I’m on the phone with him I see a cute blonde. Of course I approach her and tell Feelgood that I'll call him back. Good convo but she was already on her way home and has to get up early next day so I end the convo (lead) and get the number after some "I don't give the number away because I had bad experiences in the past" shit test.

After entering the club some catch up talk with Feelgood. Holy fuck there are plenty of pickup guys there. It's strange but I feel like I'm the coolest motherfucker of all of them. Is it delusional? Maybe, but who cares haha!

See cute girls walking by and FORCE MYSELF TO NOT APPROACH because I want to use the small timeframe that I have to talk to Feelgood while he’s in town. Fucking awesome that my natural reaction to cute girls is to approach them now and I have to deliberately force myself to not do it. Daygame is still a different story…

Later it's time for some action. Do a few sets but the music is fucking loud. Lead a blonde hottie away from the dancefloor but lose her after 5min back to her friends. Turns out that she has a bf anyway. Some more hit and run sets but nothing special happens. We call it a night

Conclusion:
-another fucking smooth set results in a solid number. No need to rush the sets normally. Definitely will do it more this way in the future
- Yeah! In the past I never would’ve done something like opening a girl while I’m on the phone with someone. Would’ve used the call as an excuse to not approach.
-the impulse to approach girls during nighttime has gone very deep in my subconscious!

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Sunday:
Head out with Zonk and Steve to our fav. Bar. I'm a little down healthwise so I order a tea. Zonk does the same. It’s almost like we HAVE to do everything togehter. Haha! The bar is fucking empty since everyone seems to be home at their families. Don't do a single set there

Head over to the toughest club. Still pretty empty too. Open a 2 set. Zonk joins in. I'm pretty laid back. Almost no physicality. After some initial vibing my girl seems bored. Plow and plow but nothing happens. She's just in town for a few days anyways so I eject when she has to take a call.

Chilling around a little. Then do some sets (stopping girls that are walking by). Unfortunately nothing hooks. Afterwards we say fuck it and just go to the dancefloor to shoot the shit and do crazy stuff like cooking soup, hilarious! SELF AMUSEMENT DELUXE!

After that open a fucking hot blonde that was a comfort zone push. I even hesitated to approach her. But I pushed through it! Fuck yeah! Unfortunately BF. Damnit!

Conclusion:
-stopping walking sets already went better in the past. Need to be more aware what I’m doing different now. Maybe it’s also the difference of the venue.
-another comfort zone push since I waited quite some time to open a fucking hot blonde one. It got harder and hard but I used my will power to just plow through!


That’s it for the week. Wish all of you “Frohe Weihnachten” (=Merry X-mas)! Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!


If you’re someone who is into Christmas illumination check out the following video to use it as an inspiration for next year!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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Join Date: 04/12/2012 | Posts: 91

Mountaineer- wrote:
Week 39 (17.12. – 23.12)

1. My game was fucked up over the last couple of weeks (results went significantly down) in my attempt to incorporate Alexanders style into my game. This fucked up my mind and quite a few things didn’t make sense. AT ALL. However, watched Alexanders bonus videos this week and they started a big shift in my perception of game. Many things are pretty clear now and I’m getting the big picture. The pillars of his style (Creating Initiative, Enduring Tests and Physicality) make so much more sense now. IMO these 3 bonus videos plus the NIM manifesto have the quality of an own product!

2. Recognize something. It’s not good when one person is in a 2set and the other one joins with the effect that all 4 talk in one thread. Is better to separate and try to isolate them as soon as possible (immediately)! Otherwise one (who is more in state/has better game) is going to get all the attention of both girls and the other one kind of chodes himself out.

3. Open a girl who's coming from the bathroom. After some time she's telling me that she has to get back to her friend because a creepy guy approached her friend before. When we arrive at her friend I see Zonk talking to her friend. Haha, what a creepy guy! Zonk is definitely the most creepy guy in the venue. Call her out on her judgement in a funny way. 
1. Do you already have the NIM manifesto????

2. Yes, we have to think of it when we are in a 2-set together. But I think most of the time we separate them anyway.

3. *LOL* yes the most creepy who get's fucked. ;)
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