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[proVIE] Mountaineer From Vienna: From Intermediate Purgatory To Advanced Stealth Awesomeness
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#31
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guess even though i played with her shit tests and she was into it at first i fell a little into her frame and lost mine... need to stay centered and unreactive!

to the makeout: yes, as you can read in my FR im going in more and more often for the makeout. but sometimes i play to not lose. have to stop that!

thx for your input

pringles wrote:

outer game:
Make it fun i.e say random shit that pumps your state while getting physical...

Buuuuut there is the other side to it
inner game:
when she reacts negatively to u in any way...as long as you are emotinally independant to her reaction (i.e no up or down in emotion based on her reactions) then you pas the shit test and she wants you more


oh and you don't need rapport for a makeout....you just need to flow....trying to systematize the interaction is basically being a permission boy....its basically saying im not good enough unless this this and this happens....this is a big no no...if you are stilll working on being enough move in for the makeout as you feel it (hint you felt it when you thought i need to build rapport for the makeout huur duur) 

good reports keep it up

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#32
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looks like he's in full internet marketing mode right now...

Zonk wrote:

ChinaBoy~ wrote:
Haha i read a lot of Zonk and Stevie...how bout Chris is he going out with u guys????
Not at the moment!
Haven't seen him for a while.
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#33
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Week 7 (07.05. – 13.05.)

Alright, time for week 7.

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Monday:
FB

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Tuesday DAY:
I’m very tired after another marathon FB session the day before. Right after work I go to the supermarket to get another steak and salad. It’s a rule to do at least one set everytime I’m there. I’m feeling all the emotional pressure to not do it. But because I KNOW that I’m doing it anyway I once again use all my will power to approach.

I open indirect, then “anyway, you’re cute”. She has a BF. Shit. But I went for it. Since I’m tired as fuck I pay and go home.

Conclusion:
-again used my willpower to push through the negative emotions – good
-would say that writing FR gives you additional leverage to not around. If you have troubles in this area consider to write your own FRs – good
-day game is definitely my week point. Need to practice that shit to get used to it

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Wednesday Day2:
Time for another day 2. This time with police girl from last week (Thu, 5min convo, went for makeout 2 times, nogo). She’s not a girl I want to fuck. But let’s be real here: since I don’t want to fuck her I’m non-needy as one can ever be and I will use it to test new stuff (props to Brad: use every day 2 to practice, even if you don’t want to fuck her).

Anyway, I arrive 2 minutes early and since police girl is not there yet I immediately open a cute girl who is standing next to me. Haha. She’s on right from the get go. Yes. Then police girl comes along. I don’t #close the other girl. That’s the first time something like that happened. I’m not sure what I will do the next time this happens… If I #close the other girl I would get a massive shit test I guess ;-)

So, I greet police girl. I like it to go just “somewhere”. So the meeting point doesn’t say anything. I just start to go, she follows. No questions asked. I’m looking for a new juicer. So we head to a nearby electronic store. Unfortunately there is a private party there this day. Wtf? I’m a little bit confused what to do now. Police girl helps out “where’s the next store?” - “the next store is faaaar away. Not sure if you can handle the long walk…” - “I’m a big girl…”.Little does she know that it’s a 20min walk haha. Good vibing, clawing, holding hands, body checks and convo. I initiate a role play: she’s my juicer assistant. She likes it. After arriving at the other store I let her present different juicers and just comment it like “are you serious?”, “no, I want a real juicer…”

After a few minutes it’s time to go. Move her to the supermarket – have to adapt the supermarket rule to “at least one set everytime I’m there except it’s on a day 2” lol. Grab a steak and salad. Then I just lead her to my place. No questions asked. Never thought that it would be that easy.

Anyway, I tell her random stories about random things while being completely unneedy. After approx. 15min I go for the makeout. Get it. No surprise. Pin her against the doorframes, more makeout. Then I go to the fridge, pull out my steak and cook it. Haha, like it to try stuff like that just to see how the girls respond. She looks a little confused. I say “I’m hungry”. No further questions asked, she’s just sitting there like a little girl waiting for me to finish my steak.

After eating my steak more makeout, throw her into the bed. Going to get rid of the pants. Nogo. Try it again. Nogo. Time to try something new: “WTF is this? Anyway, what do you guys in England say for BJ” – “give head!?” – “so, police girl, then give me head”. Nogo. Haha, whatever I went for it that’s all that counts. With a girl I actually wanted to fuck I guess I wouldn’t have said that.

Time to say good bye. She contacts me a few times after but since I don’t want to fuck her this is it for me.

Conclusion:
-like Brads approach to make “practice day2s” – good
-tried new stuff – good
- Never thought that it would be that easy to pull her home – good

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Thursday:
Zonk, Steve and me start at our fav. Bar. I’m very low energy and nothing hooks. Time for the next venue: our fav. Club.

I’m not self amusing as usual. Just don’t feel it. WTF!? Anyway, I force myself to go in again and again. Nothing hooks. Then open a brunette HB7. Move her 2 times (wall and dancefloor). She’s stifled. So nothing happens.

That’s it, I’m done.

Conclusion:
-wasn’t amusing myself than usual – don’t know why…
-even though I wasn’t in state pushed myself to approach – good

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Friday Day2:
Time for the 2nd day2 with blonde HB8 (day 2 was on Sun, week 5). We meet outside. Lead her to a bar. After one drink and since she paid the first round at the club I pay discretely when coming back from the bathroom so we have no further interruptions when leaving the bar (props to Brad).

Time to go home. At my place time for more rapport. Again, I’m extreme unneedy. After some time makeout, it’s getting hot. Throw her into the bed. This time she’s completely fine with it. Then I go for the bra, no problem. Good! Then pants, nogo. WTF!? Whatever, more makeout. Then try again, nogo.

I look at my watch. Since it’s Friday, I’m going to meet up with my wings and it looks like the fclose is not going to happen tonight I escort her to the door.

I catch myself with a negative thought “What is this thinking about. It’s already the second day 2 and she’s not down to get fucked. Fuck that. I’m done with her”. Haha, such negative thoughts happen very rarely. Time for a positive reframe “Next time when she’s lying fully naked in front of me and down to get fucked I will not do it immediately but let her wait and maybe beg for it”. Haha!

Conclusion:
-even though I didn’t fuck her it was another good reference experience - good
-I didn’t fuck her – damnit

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Friday:
Time to get into the field after my day2. Meet up with Zonk and Steve. Since it’s already pretty late we head directly to a new club. Zonk goes in – it’s pretty empty. Off we go to the next club. Empty too. Anyway, I do my set. Goes nowhere.

Next venue. Packed full with cocks. Tim would call it a cock farm of doom. The air condition doesn’t work either. So we do our set and get the hell out of there.

Time for the main venue of the night. One of the toughest clubs in Vienna. Since I didn’t fuck at my day2 and nothing hooked this night I’m a massively off. I even just rarely approach. I feel weak. Maybe it’s the worst day since Munich. Fuck!

Then I go to the bathroom where I make the decision that this chode behavior is over now. After leaving the bathroom I open left and right like a mad man and don’t give a shit. Yeah, Mountaineer is back bitches!

Open a brunette HB8 right next to the door hard core. She’s into it. I’m right in her face but don’t go for the makeout – Fuck!

Zonk pulls a girl he knew from before ;-)
That’s it, we call it a night.

Conclusion:
-even though I was out of it like on no other day since Munich I made the conscious decision to snap out of it – and I worked! – very good

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Saturday DAY:
Do one set at the supermarket. Indirect, this is the way to go since I massively freaked girls out with direct openers recently. Goes nowhere.

Conclusion:
-did my supermarket set without the need of massive will power, I’m getting used to it – good

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Saturday:
Zonk, Steve and me start directly at the club.We’re about to bounce to the next venue when I open a blonde HB8. After a few minutes Steve joins in and egages my target. That’s not the first time. WTF!? But he isn’t even aware of it so I introduce a punch everytime he joins in and engages my target instead of really winging me. Off to the next venue.

Next stop is a latin bar. I like it but Zonk is a little bored there. Time to push the envelope so I open a brunette stunner HB10 that is taller than me and is standing right at the bar. She tries to ignore me. But she has no chance. I just plow through. She’s seems attracted but after like 30 seconds she tries to leave. I just grab her wrist and pull her back in. Haha, I like it. She’s confused because her frame is “what do you want little boy”, but I don’t buy into it. Just vomit around. Then a tall dude tries to get between her and me. I just say to him “ey, don’t talk to my GF”. He looks confused. I cannot stay serious and start to laugh. I eject. This was a massive self amusment action that pumped my state enormously!

We bounce to another party – empty. Time to get back to the first venue. Open like a mad man. Self amusement deluxe again! See a chode talking to a blonde stunner HB10. Go in, vomit around. She gives me a little shit. Just play around with it/ignore it. But then I feel that even though she’s really hot I’m not really interested in her anymore to continue. I eject. What is this? Real or just fear of success?

It’s pretty late. Steve and me get our jackets from the wardrobe. They are black. I’m standing at the entrance with clasped hands. Then I notice that people are going to show me there stamps. They think that I’m a bouncer. Haha. After a blonde girl just walks past me without showing me her stamp I grab her at the wrist and pull her back. She shows me her stamp. I say “what’s your name” – “what? I just showed you my stamp. Why do you want to know my name”. I pull her in and whisper in her ear “if there is a fight afterwards I know your name”. at this moment she realizes that I’m not a bouncer, starts to smile and gives me a playful punch.

Anyway, time to go home.

Conclusion:
-was in massive state again – good
-pushed the envelope by opening brunette HB10, being very persistent and confusion her friends with the “she’s my GF frame” – good
-seems like I have a good unconscious frame of being a leader if people think that I’m a bouncer without even trying it – good


That’s it for this week. Be prepared for Week 8, I have another SNL in the pipeline ;-)

In the meantime check out this old track. It contains good mindsets: girls are always down to fuck. Just don’t fuck it up!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-

PS: just finished Six Pillars Of Self Esteem by Nathaniel Branden – This is a must read! One of the best books I’ve read so far!
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*Week 8 (14.05. - 20.05.)

Alright, time for another week of awesomeness! Because today is a public holiday in Austria and I partied hard yesterday the FR is one day late. Whatever, who cares…
From now on “Awesome Crew Vienna” (ACW) stands for Zonk, Steve and me.

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Monday:
FB

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Wednesday:
Awesome Crew Vienna starts at our fav. Bar. With us are 3 old chode friends. Just boring talk about work or random negative shit. Since you’re the average of the 5 persons you hang out the most (imo the same is true for a single evening concerning state/momentum) I’m allergic to chode friends and eject from this chode cock farm after 5min to do what I really want to do: HAVE FUN WITH GIRLS!

Open 3 HB8 set. It’s a bday party. I focus on my girl, the 2 other ones leave. I’m alone with her – good. She’s shittesting me heavily. I like it. That means she’s into me. Her friends come back. They’re about to go, I go for the number but DON’T get it. Shit. Whatever…

Do some more sets. Go nowhere. Open 5set full of blondes. Fatty is on. It’s always the same. I eject.

Open brunette HB8. Tight body. She’s freckles. I like it. I’m right in her face. Self amusement is on. Good vibing. She throws in sexual shit. Haha. Go for the makeout. Get a kiss. Go again, get it. Yeah! I can see my chode friends watching me the whole time. Suck shit motherfuckaas. Haha.

Time for logistics. She’s here with a girl and 2 chode friends that watched us the whole time but they do not seem to care. I baby step her out of the bar while Steve makes out with her friend. Outside I just start walking (props to Brad for “no reason extraction”). She gives me a little shit test “where are we going”. I just say “we go for a walk”. It’s a 20min walk to my place. I talk about random shit that’s in front of us like “this is my fav. Supermarket. Blabla”. Everything runs very smoothly. Back at my place I’m very unneedy, offer her a drink. Vomit around. Time to change gears. Makeout, pinning her against the doorframe. I break the kissing a few times. She always wants to continue (a little needy). Haha, that’s how it should be.

Throw her into the bed. More makeout, grinding and stuff. I finger her and feel something strange. It’s her vaginal ring. Haha. Then she asks “are there any condoms in this household?”. Haha, best bedtime saying for a long time. You are back at Mountaineers place, we have condoms here to survive a nuclear attack for a few weeks bitch! That’s all there is to say. TIME TO FUCK!

After I pull my cock out of her I see that the sheets are full of blood. I ask her if she’s on her period, she says no… WTF!? Guys, did you ever have such an experience where the girl bleeds while fucking her even though she’s not on her period?


Whatever, time to go back out again to join the Awesome Vienna Crew for more fun. On the way back to the club I’m opening a Goth set with a brunette stunning HB9. We just have one metro station to get it rollin’. Not enough. Whatever.

When I arrive near the club the boys are already on the way home. So I just join Zonk and we shoot the shit.

Conclusion:
-even though I wasn’t very motivated that night I pushed myself to get shit done – good
-the pull was a good reference experience that I don’t need to be in massive state to pull (it can happen always and everywhere! So there’s NEVER A REASON TO NOT APPROACH) – very good
-I was motivated to go back to the club after pulling a girl home – very good

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Thursday:
Awesome Crew Vienna starts at our fav. Bar. Time for a challenge. I open a blonde HB8 in a mixed 2 set. The guy is huge. Her RAS is full on me from the get go. The guy tries to give me shit. I’m not reactive, just self amusing. She’s pinging every now and then the guy if her behavior is correct (I guess). No wing joins in to engage the guy, fuck. I’m not able to maintain this high level of self amusement. I eject without going for the number. Wtf, at least I could have tried it…

Like every Thursday we head to our fav. club. There are Feelgood and some other dudes there as well. Time for some challenges with HB10s and dudes around them. Unfortunately these sets go nowhere. But I went for it. That’s all that counts!

While winging Zonk I am deeling with “the most stifled girl in the world”. Her stifleness level is unbelievable. She’s talking that she is not shy. Haha, best joke ever. Could have used her as a surfboard. Anyway, Zonk was not able to go for the pull on his girl because stifled girl has to be taken care of. Zonks girl texts him later that she’s very sorry for “stifled girl” and normally wouldn’t have given up that easy. Haha!

Whatever, Feelgood and me head out to do a set together. We should do it more often. It’s always good to mix things up (also with girls haha). He’s a little out of state at this point so the RAS of the whole group goes on me. I’m very physical. They like it. Unfortunately they have to go. Go for the number of one of the girls. She gives me shit. Still I get it.

Conclusion:
-did a few challenges to push the envelope one more time – good
-finally met “the most stifled girl in the world” – at least I know it next time I see her and can ignore her haha
-it’s always good to mix things up
-another good reference experience of getting the number even though she first says no and gives me shit – good

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Friday:
Zonk and me start again at our fav. bar. Nothing special happens except that I plow like a mad man.

Time for street game. Zonk is fucking on and opens left and right. But it goes nowhere. We crash into a bday party on the first floor of an ice cream parlor. Just shooting the shit and self amusing. The birthday girl is into it. Everyone turns into spectator mode and is looking at us. Anyway, we eject from the party to head to the main venue of the night.

We arrive at one of the most intimidating venues of Vienna. But I feel less and less stifled there. Push my comfort zone a few times there. Very good! But nothing hooks.

Conclusion:
-crashed again into a private party and owned that venue - everyone was looking at us – good
-getting more and more unstifled at the most intimidating venues – good

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Saturday:
I’m watching the champions league final on my beamer at home via a low resolution stream of the Local Broadcasting Corporation. It’s like every pixel is as big as a thumb. I’ve catched a little cold and feel not very fit. Feel tired, have no voice and my throat aches. I guess the pull from Wednesday infected me haha.

Zonk has a day2 and Steve is not in town and I’m not fit and just feel like shit. ANYWAY, my will power kicks in “whatever, as long as you do not have the flu you go”. Yes, I like it. A word and a blow. I drag myself to the club. My voice is fucked up, I open the first set and croak myself through. I really feel like shit. It’s fascinating. Even though I feel like shit the girl invests in the interaction and asks questions and stuff. Guess this is because I’m congruent with it.

Time to check out the venue and see what girls are here. I do 1-2 more sets. Then I get a text from Zonk that he’s done with his day2 and is going to join me. Great, I need some support tonight. I just have no power.

After Zonk joins we do a couple more sets and change the venue. There a couple more sets but they all go nowhere.

Conclusion:
-I like it that recently my will power kicks in automatically to push through any resistance (bad feelings, feeling tired, being sick) – good
-was congruent to what I felt (like shit) – good


Guys, that’s it for the week 8. See ya next week. In the meantime play a round Clinton Fucker (old but one of the best games ever) and tell me if you ever had a similar experience with the girl bleeding even though she’s not on her period!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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#35
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Mountaineer- wrote:
Whatever, Feelgood and me head out to do a set together. We should do it more often.
Hell yeah, we should!

In regards to the blood: The two answers that come to my mind are 1. she is lying, 2. it has something to do with that fucking ring. If you ask her, if nothing else you can probably quickly find out if she knows what's up or if she doesn't.

Oh, and it could also have been some horrible STD that makes your dick rot in hell.
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@Feelgood: yeah, answer 1 with she's lying is an option that i completely forgot about...
no STDs for me. the rubber was intact afterwards ;-)
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Week 9 (21.05. - 27.05.)

Whassup dudes? Long time no see. I’m a little bit late with the journal. Normally I’m posting every Sunday but in order to that girl I pulled back to my place on Sunday (unfortunately she was on her period, no bang time Vienna) I wasn’t able to keep it up haha. Whatever…

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Monday:
FB

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Tuesday:
Time for another episode with blonde HB8 from week 4. After 2 day2s where she was already lying in my bed standing on the brakes I went in to flip the script. Meetup at my place for movies. She’s bringing wine, chips and stuff. Shit tests me why I text back days later, why I don’t be nice, ... I’m non reactive just saying “I like you too”. She’s overwhelmed with my response haha.

I’m chill, not escalating at all. After the movie she’s horny as fuck and goes for the makeout several times. I just give her a hug, lift her up and carry her to the bed. I throw her into my bed. She grabs my hands and tries to pull me into the bed. Nogo. Haha.

I say, “oh, it’s late. You have to go now” while joining her on the bed. She’s grinding heavily on my dick. After a few minutes I escort her to my anteroom. She’s grabbing my dick and starts with dirty talk how she would like to get fucked… yeah, I like it.

BUUUUUUT, I throw her out. 5 minutes later I get the first text “how should I sleep now”. Yes, good foundation for a FB I guess.

Conclusion:
-flipped the scriped – good
-she was horny as fuck but I was totally unneedy – good
-guess it’s a good foundation for FB cuz she’s investing heavily – very good

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Thursday:
Fuck, I guess I do too many sets. Cannot remember what I did. Here are my notes from the night:
“fav. bar american set stifled; fav. club blonde with glasses; pushing envelope girl with guy; other blonde; young ones with CB”

Conclusion:
-obviously I pushed the envelope once again – good
-have to reframe “she’s stifled” to “she’s intimidated by my confidence” –
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Friday:
Yoshi is back! Head out to a bar with him (old wing of mine). Because we haven’t seen each other for quite a long time we just chill and exchange the last adventures. I’m relaxed, don’t feel the need to immediately approach because I know that I always can. Pushed through it again and again. Approaching at night is almost natural for me now – it’s more like I feel a little bit weird if I don’t approach for more than 15min.

Anyway, I see a big group (probably a dozen people). I go in. Their RAS is immediately on me. I sit down and shoot the shit. I’m not able to keep the whole group engaged for more than 5 min. miss a chance to get closer to my target. In the end it goes nowhere, they leave.

Cut, next. Zonk joins us and opens a 2set, I go in to wing him. Good convo with my girl but almost no physicality. Time to bounce. I go for the number. No? anyway, … No? why… cuz I wouldn’t text you… Yeah, so give me your number. No? Fuck it…

On the way to the main venue of the night open some german girls on the street. Massive blowout. Something is not working with them (limiting believe, I know). It’s almost like they have broom in their ass and cannot do anything other than being stifled and pissed.

Arrive at the club. I’m not really on. Anyway, do some sets. Do 2 “returns of Mountaineers” where I go to the bathroom and immediately after leaving it open everything that moves hard core. Then something that looked pretty good until her sister dragged her away. I go back in and try to pull my girl back to me. But nogo. Whatever, time to call it a night.

Conclusion:
-it’s my default behavior to approach during the night now; feel weird if I don’t approach – very good
-even though nothing hooked, pushed through and did my sets – good

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Saturday Day:
Time for some daygame with Feelgood. Since this is definitely a weak point for me it’s time to address it. my rule of doing at least one set at every venue still applies and gives me enough pressure to push through the hesitation and approach. I’m not calibrated at all and go in like I do in the night – full hard core style. This is the normal calibration process. I take every moment as it comes.

Open a blonde HB8 at the bookstore with “hi”. This is a very good opener. But only for intermediate to advanced guys haha. after hesitating at first and me staying “relatively” cool she’s into it. Soon after her friend joins in and they have to go. Do not go for the number for several reasons. But there’s one central theme behind it that describes it pretty good: PUSSY!

Other sets are almost all instant blowouts. Yeah, back to the basics. Whatever, I will get this area handled too. It’s just a matter of action and time.

Conclusion:
-did at least one set at every venue – good
-one set went pretty good – yeah!
- It’s just a matter of action and time – I know that I will finally figure it out

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Saturday:
After a short rest it’s time for some night game. Awesome Vienna Crew starts at our fav. bar. But it’s pretty empty, stifled. Cannot remember details.

We change the venue soon. It’s an electro party at a big venue. There are plenty cute girls there. Maybe they are too “cute” and girlish. They’re stifled or should I say intimidated by my confidence…

One longer set with a brunette HB8, Zonk wings me. But nogo. Shit.

There’s a very strange but awesome band there playing experimental electro (they call it Neon Baroque). Nice. I turn into spectator mode for 20-30mins but I’m fully aware of it and accept it. Just being chill. I know that I will do plenty of sets afterwards. Yeah!

Check them out, Johann Sebastian Bass (Neon Baroque):



Anyway, do some more sets. Nothing special happens except that I’m enjoying my time and having a shit load of fun in the club.

Conclusion:
-combine more and more hitting it hard with phases of just being chill and enjoying it – good


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Sunday:
Because Monday is a public holiday here in Austria Zonk, Steve and me head out to rock the night. Start at our fav. bar. The venue is dead. We get the hell out of it.

Doing some street game on the way to the main venue. Zonk is full on and self amusing hard core with the “Chaaaaange” opener (props to Tyler).

I’m a little hesitant at first but then open brunette HB9. It’s on immediately, her “fatty” friend gives me shit the whole time. I’m not reactive but it costs energy to not fall into her frame. Anyway, play with it. she starts to laugh but later comes back into her fatty frame of cock blocking me hard. I use a small time window while fatty is away to #close my girl. Yes, I have a very good feeling – turns out that she never writes back. Wtf is this: when you have a very good feeling it goes nowhere.

We enter the main venue (our fav. club) by cutting 90% of the queue (guess it would’ve been at least 1hour to wait otherwise). Entitlement!

Today is an afterparty of SpringJam – a crazy party weekend with 2000 young people partying in Croatia having a resort for their own. Anyway, these trips are hard core and crazy things happen. I’m fully motivated and just assuming a wild and perfect night.

Immediately after entering the club I start to approach like a mad man don’t giving a shit. Permission Boy is dead! 2 HB7 makeouts in 5 minutes (and numbers). One further makeout with a “married” girl. I’m persistend as fuck.

Trying something new. Giving small kisses on the cheek while talking. Fully obvious. The girls don’t care… Good reference experience.

I'M THE SHIT! I knew that this night something like that was going down - but WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE TO ANY OTHER NIGHT???

I guess it’s the ASSUMED POSITIVE OUTCOME!

Conclusion:
-awesome night just because I assumed that it would be so – very good
-was persistent as fuck – very good
-entitlement reached another level – good


That’s it for week 9, take care!

Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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Week 10 (28.05. – 03.06.)

Hey there, Mountaineer is back with another week. I have not much time to write this one so I will KISS.

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Monday:
FB

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Thursday:
Zonk and me head out to our fav. club. It’s empty so we get the hell out of there and do no single set. On the way to the next venue do some streetgame. Nothing special happens.

After we find out that the club we’ve planned to go is empty too we head to a club we haven’t been for a long time. It’s the biggest club in Austria. Normally the guests there are not the kind of people I would like to be around but since it’s Thursday we give it a try (Thu is more a students day). This club is pretty empty too but there are enough girls to have fun.

It’s the first time I’m that relaxed while being out of state. Like I own this club, like I’m above and beyond the matrix. It’s an amazing feeling. Guess this is also a byproduct of getting older and being older than the stuff and other guys in the club. It’s like dealing with kids or pets ;-)

Do a 2set from Switzerland but they are too stifled/intimidated. It’s not worth it so I eject. Next one is a Russian blonde HB9. I go in hard, she gives me shit test after shit test. Turns away to her friends, pull her back in. A few minutes later she does it again. I eject. WHY??? I don’t know. Have to be more persistent!

After some more sets open a blonde HB8. Her BF is really pissed and tries to start a fight. At first I try to calm him down but since he’s being a stupid boy with an huge ego problem I just go away. Haha, these guys are so reactive.

While going to the exit I open my last set of the night. Very cute young brunette girl. She’s into me. I’m very physical. Then some chode friends of her show up. She talks to them. Grab her and try to pull her back in but nogo. Damnit! Don’t really know what happened there.

Conclusion:
- It’s the first time I’m that relaxed while being out of state and feel like owning the club – good
-lost the last girl to 2 chode friends of her – damnit!
-need to be more persistent even though I’m not in state. Have to stick in the set when I want the girl!

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Friday:
Go out to a lesbian birthday party wit Zonk. I have much trouble to approach at all because in my head I’m asking myself “what’s the point of approaching lesbians?” it’s conflicting with my whole natural alpha male mindset…

Anyway, I get bored. Talk to a girl that I know indirectly over a lesbian friend. Zonk tells me that she’s straight. Even though she’s a fatty (HB5) I’m bored as fuck so it’s time for some action. Push it hard and makeout with her in less than 5min. I’m still bored, haha. I eject.

I’m still struggling to do cold approaches there. Later I figure out to just “ask” them right from the get go with “you look lesbian”. If she’s straight she immediately responds to that and starts to qualify herself like “wtf, nooooo! …” Good stuff!

With the “You look lesbian” thing I start to approach finally! One girl with a strong cold is into me. I’m not planning to get it too so I eject. Haha.

Zonk and me are getting into state. Open a blonde HB8 together. She’s straight. Yes! We game her hard and go in for the makeout several times. She stays. But after like 10min she goes back to her friends. Whatever.

Time to say goodbye and get the hell out of this party!

Head over to a “normal” club. Finally! Like the day before I’m immediately feeling like owning this club right from the get go even though I’m not in state. Yeah! Do some sets but nothing special happens.

Time for the next club. do 2 sets I guess. The second goes pretty well but her friends are bullshitting the whole time. At first I plow through. Then I guess I misread her pushing her friends as a call for help. After I eject and we’re already back on the street Zonk tells me that it looked like she was jus pushing them away and wanted to be alone with me. Damnit! Next time more persistence again!

Do 2-3 more sets and grab a hot dog.

Conclusion:
-feel like owning the club again while being out of state – good
-I’m not as persistent as I used to be. Have to be more persistent!
-figured the “you look lesbian” thing out to deal with lesbian parties – good

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Saturday Day:
Time for some daygame again. Head out with Feelgood and Zonk. We go to different stores (bookstore, supermarket, etc.). Since my 1 set per venue rule still applies I’m forced to do it. good!

At the first venue (bookstore) I get an instant blowout. Next venue has nothing to approach so I open a girl I’m not attracted to just to practice. Plow through, self amuse. She’s into it. Then go for the number. Nogo. Really fight for it (just to try where it goes), Nogo. Whatever.

Next set on the escalator, she ignores me. Wtf. I’m not willing to plow through. Byebye bitch! Open a girl on the street, she doesn’t stop. Yeah, obviously I’m really good at daygame!

Whatever, we have a blast. I do some stupid shit and hurt myself. Since I have no patch we head to the farmacy where a cute girl is already waiting to patch me up. Haha. Happy end!

Conclusion:
-daygame is still tough for me but I will push through
-compared to the previous times did many sets this time – good

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Saturday:
Head out to a student party with Zonk. Some sets but nothing special. Time for the next club. Open a HB7 2set. Works great then just shit, plow through but still shit. There are other girls here too - I eject.

Open a blonde one hard. Tight body, she looks like a lesbian BUT is straight. I’m hesitating because I don’t know if I want to makeout or not (influence of the last night)… Didn’t push enough.

I see Zonk in a 2 set. Wing him and engage the fatty. Seems like we can pull them to the next venue and then home. But I’ve to go to the bathroom first. On my way there open a very cute brunette HB8. It goes pretty good. Zonk joins in. He lost his 2set…

Back to my brunette HB8. I don’t go for the makeout at first. Don’t ask me why. Guess it is because I’m still waiting for a little IOI. Whatever, fuck it! No permission boy times! So I just go in for the makeout. Get it, yes. Screening for logistics. She’s just visiting Vienna and cannot leave the group. Get her number and we call it a night.

Conclusion:
-have to be aware every time “good old” perimission boy sneaks back in to kick him in the ass

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Sunday Day:
Visiting my family outside of Vienna. Time for the first BBQ of the year. We’ve invited old friends (another family) with a cute blonde 23yo. It’s ridiculous, back in the day I used to be quite passive around such family gatherings but this time I’m aware of what’s going on and fucking own it. Blondie is reacting like it should be. Have her FB, will set up something I guess. Maybe I will do some more warm approaching in the future.

Sunday:
Salsa is a passion of mine. Didn’t do anything for 3 months in this area because I wanted full focus on improving my Game. Since a festival in Barcelona is coming up I decide to hit up a Salsa party at night. Mountaineer is back bitches! It doesn’t take long till the first few orbiters start to appear. It’s like back in the day and reminds me of Tylers “Feeding Frenzy”. I like this status that I have there BUT I’m aware that it’s still just situational confidence. What I really want to develop is core confidence…

Anyway, pull a girl back to my place (blonde HB8 with a fucking tight body). Unfortunately no f-close because she’s on her period. She could have told me that before we were already lying in my bed grinding and making out heavily…

Conclusion:
-this was the day of warm approaches haha. will not force it but approach it like Hank Moody (Californication) does: “it’s just happening” (passive mating strategy)




Yeah, so that’s it for week 10.

Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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Week 11 (04.06. – 10.06.)

Alright, time for week 11. Here we go…

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Monday:
FB

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Tuesday:
Out with Zonk. Girls are too young for my taste. Almost all of them 17, 18. Usually I don’t really feel any attraction. They’re too childish. Whatever, we’re here so lets do something. They’re pretty stifled – is it my confidence? Partly for sure. Do like 10 sets. Noooothing happens.

Time to change the venue. Because it’s Tuesday there are not really alternatives. Do some more sets and call it a night.

Conclusion:
-take action even if I don’t feel attracted to the girls there - good
-we quickly head on to the next club and do not waste time at the first venue - good

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Wednesday (Day2):
Scheduled the 4th day2 with blonde HB8 for watching a movie at my place after throwing her out on the last day2 when she wanted to fuck me badly. Meeting point is my place. But she doesn’t show up. 30min later I send a text “are you not able to find my place?”. No response. At first I’m emotionally attached because this doesn’t makes any sense. But I reframe it as a good practice to handle such a situation. I heard from another guy that a girl didn’t show up because she was in hospital… After 1 hour I send another text “I will start in the meantime. Hope for you that it is act of nature beyond your control. Anyway, let me know or I will head out with friends later”. No response again. Wtf.

Unfortunately all wings are busy or ill that night. So there is only one conclusion. Going out solo. Right before I leave my flat get a text from HB8 that she is very sorry but slept the whole day (25h totally), missed work and a friend that showed up at her place needed 20min to wake her up. She told me before that she sometimes sleeps and sleeps and sleeps. Whatever, I head out.

Arrive at the venue. I’m in a relatively bad mood but push myself to do the first set right outside. I’m pretty stifled and blow myself out immediately. Get in. Awesome music. Next set. Goes better. Slowly getting into a social mood. Do 4-5 sets total.

When I’m out alone and in a bad mood doing approaches is no problem anymore. It’s in my comfort zone now. Good! BUT I don’t persist like I do normally. When I get the first shit test I eject. WTF, have to work on that one.

Anyway, text blonde HB8 back “hey sleepyhead, greetings from xxx, awesome music” conveying that I 1. am not emotially reactive and 2. have abundance and not sit at home and wait for her.

Alright, time to change venue. Do 4-5 more sets there. Nothing special happens.

Conclusion:
-after the blonde didn’t show up for the day2 I’m getting a little bit emotionally reactive BUT manage to reframe it in my head – good
-head out even though I absolutely not feel to do it - good
-approaching when going out alone and being in a bad mood is in my comfort zone now – good
-BUT I am not persistent. need to work on that one!
- writing FRs is kind of cheating because you use the social pressure to not look like a to push even harder. Therefore I can recommend everyone who has problems with taking action to write FRs

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Thursday:
Head out with Zonk. First club empty, second club empty. WTF is this.

Finally find a venue with enough girls even though it’s a strange venue (30+ party). My sets are all <= 30. I slowly start approaching. Then go in hard on blonde HB8, 30sec. makeout. Nice!

Some more sets. Then long set with brunette HB7. Go for the makeout 5 times. Nogo. But she stays. Bring her home with the car because maybe she now is down for the makeout… nogo. Damnit. Get her number and call it a night.

Conclusion:
-went in hard and made out withing 30sec. – good
-long set, went out several times for makeout. Nogo, but she stayed – good

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Friday:
Some warmup sets at our fav. club. Change venue. It’s fuckin hot there. Some cuties there so we take action. Don’t go for the makeout with a blonde HB8. Damnit!

Change venue again. Push the envelope and do a mixed 2set. The guy gets pretty pissed. I stay cool. We call it a night.

Conclusion:
-once again didn’t go for the makeout because I wanted to build more comfort first…
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Saturday Day:
Zonk and me head out. Stumble upon an old friend we haven’t seen in years. So we grab a drink and shoot the shit. It’s getting pretty late so I only do one set before the shops close. Approach the hottest girl in the venue for the first time during day. YES! I’m more chill and don’t go in in my nightgame style for the first time. Yeah! Good interaction but she has a BF.

Concusion:
-did the hottest girl in the whole venue during daygame for the first time – good

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Saturday:
Zonk and me do some warmups at our fav. bar. A 4set gives me massive shit. Do some more sets at the next venue.

On the way to the next venue we have a massive state crash, even talking about “burnout” and stuff. Wtf… I’m fully out of state. Zonk opens a few sets. Slowly I get back in social mode. Blonde HB8 tries to get rid of her boring friends and stay with us but they’re very persistent. they go home. Shit.

Open a 5set with Ukrainian HB8. Good convo. Club closes so we all get out. Try to pull them to our fav. bar. Nogo. They leave, except one girl. She says that she has a BF but just stands beside us. Haha, what is this. Steve joins and we move on to grab something to eat. Arrive at our fav. bar. We’re having a blast and I’m back in state. Open 3 more sets. Zonk and me are in set with one girl an both go in for the makeout. Nogo. Haha, funny as fuck!

Conclusion:
-managed to turn the tide from being completely out of state to being full in the zone – good




I’m out of here. See ya next week.

Cheers,
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Week 12 (11.06. – 17.06.)

This is going to be my 100th post…
Anyway, just came back from a trip to Barcelona. Time for Week 12. I will KISS because there are tons of other things to do…

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Monday:
FB

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Thursday:
Start at our fav. bar, I’m not even into it. Zonk #closes a girl and off we go. On the street meet a girl I knew from before. This happens more and more often. #close her and we move on. Swedish set. These girls are fuckin’ cool and chilled. Yeah. Do a german set cuz I have to work on my limiting “German girls in Austria” believe. Good reference experience. Go back to the first venue to do one further set and get back to the car.

It’s Thursday so it’s getting time for our fav. club. I’m chilled now, everything goes pretty smooth. Developed something new “introducing each other”. It’s very funny to introduce each other a few times to the girls haha. Do many sets. See a hot blonde at the wall. Go in. She gives me shit after shit. I get a little into impression mode as opposed to expression mode. Fuck.

Then I’m in set with a cute small blonde. She says that she knows me from before but I cannot remember her. My self amusement kicks back in and I subtly communicate that maybe she knows me from TV. She believes it “yeah, I know you, give me a minute…”. Then her friend joins in. I can remember her and I can see that she remembers me but I don’t know the place. Then it hits me. I made out with this girl a few weeks ago. Haha.

Open another hottie on the dancefloor. Go in hard, self amuse. She massages my back, dances in front of me but plays hard to get. I go for the makeout 5 times. Nogo. Damnit!

Conclusion:
-it happens more and more often that girls remember me – is this good or bad? I think it’s good because it means that I obviously burned myself into her memory

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Friday:
Steve and me head to a pub. Do 3-4 sets, nothing special happens. Move on to a latin bar. A few more sets. I’m a little bit off. Then back to our fav. bar. It’s time for a family reunion because my little sister just graduated from school. My sisters are fuckin’ awesome. Unfortunately I forgot about that fact. it’s self amusement deluxe and everyone wants to join our party even though one sister blowed me out of a set. Haha.

Conclusion:
-kind of forgot how awesome my sisters are. Through that night I learned a lot about self amusement

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Saturday Day:
There’s a gay parade at the town hall. Unfortunately Jeffys recent Gay Bride post came a little bit too late. Was too much in spectator mode and just did one set there and 1-2 on the way back home.

Conclusion:
-have to take more action during day!

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Saturday:
Head with Zonk and Steve out to try a new bar. Unfortunately its literally empty with just the bartender in it. we move on and crash into a bday party. We own that place. Unfortunately they’re just turning 18. We #close a few of them and move on.

Tough venue, tough sets as always there. 2 longer sets but nothing special happens.

Conclusion:
-it’s happening more and more often that we own a place – good!


That’s it for week 12. Even though there is actually not much going on at the results front I can feel that I’m pushing against the current plateau. Hope the next breakthrough is coming soon.

Definitely have to work on my day game! Bringing Jeffys party to the streets!



Take care, see you next week!
Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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