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[proVIE] Mountaineer From Vienna: From Intermediate Purgatory To Advanced Stealth Awesomeness
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Thx for your response.
While talking about this sticking point with you we found out that there's another layer behind "people" that can see me. And that's the staff: if the bouncers see me approaching girls and get blown out they maybe kick me out of the club... have to work on that now!

Zonk wrote:

Mountaineer- wrote:
Week 3 (09.04. – 15.04.)

Monday:
The club is pretty empty. I get a strange feeling I often get when a venue is quite empty. You know it, If a club is empty and someone is doing ANYTHING everyone immediately is going to see it and watch you. That’s definitely a sticking point that I’m aware of recently. I have to get rid of it and use all my willpower to take action and don’t give a shit.

Where is the difference between your unstifling exercise when you're leaving your house? There are also often a lot of people who are looking at you, when you're yelling around on the street and you don't mind. Maybe you should do your unstifling exercise directly in the club to get rid of this kind of feeling in empty clubs?!





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+Week 5 (23.04. – 29.04.)

Yeah, time for another awesome week to get documented. The best week so far in regards to the action I took on one hand and the results I got on the other hand (except fcloses). Got 4 club makeouts, one day2 back at my place already making out and grinding in my bed (unfortunately no fclose) and of course my FB! YEAAAHH! That’s one of those moments you earn the fruits for taking massive action and pushing the envelope all the time!

I can’t believe that the Munich weekend (with HS and BC) is just one month ago. I was taking so much action that the intensity felt like 3 months. And the best of all: COMPLETELY SOBER!

Btw, I’m a bad boy because I’ve stolen the separation lines from Tylers posts. I’m an asshole, I know.
Anyway, here we go…

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Monday:
FB, like a dog

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Tuesday DAY:
I’m again at the supermarket to get some food and thinking about that I have to do at least one set when suddenly some strange old guy approaches me from the side. It’s Feelgood. AGAIN. Haha. He’s out with a semi natural dude (let’s call him SN). We shoot the shit a little bit and SN starts to approach girls. His style is more indirect. Anyway, after 3 sets it goes pretty good and he sticks in the set for about 10 minutes and comes back with a number.

I’m still a little bit stifled during the day and hesitate at first. But then I do my set too. Guess… It goes nowhere. Haha.

Conclusion:
-slowly I’m getting used to approaching at daytime and do at least one set in the supermarket every time – good
-I still have to gather an enormous amout of reference experiences to get comfortable doing that shit during the day

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Wednesday DAY:
Went to supermarket for another t-bone steak of GLORY. On t he way to the supermarket made the decision to do at least one set. Yeah, I like it when I push the envelope.

So, I wonder around a little bit at the supermarket and finally open a set (blonde HB7). I go in very indirect like “hey, tell me where x is” haha. She immediately responses “Oh, x, that has to be over there…” and starts to walk to another part of the supermarket showing me the exact place. WTF!? My first thought “why the fuck would she walk around the whole supermarket to show me the exact place of x?”. She has to be into me! But my delusional confidence cracks a few moments later when she says that she is a salesperson for another supermarket. Haha. Anyway, I cut that thread off and tell her that I was not only looking for x but also wanted to say that she’s cute. I said it like in my best chode days.

She says that she has a BF and is about to go when I immediately respond “No, come here” in full nightgame style. It was a little high energy tough. POOF, gone! Anyway, was a good reference experience.

I get my steak and call it a day.

Conclusion:
-yeah, did my supermarket set again – good

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Wednesday:
Zonk and me head out to a club. We have just about 1 hour because we have to get home early for work. Nevertheless we’re doing it. Remember Tyler saying “20 mins are enough”.

On the way to the club Zonk is on fire and very motivated. After entering the club I open immediately hard core. Boom, it goes very well. One brunette HB7 is leaving the club to get up early but offers me her number. Yes!

Open a blonde HB8 very direct. Pull her back in. She has to go to her friends. Try to join her. Nogo. She offers me her number too. Yes, I’m the shit haha.

Open HB6 with a very cute face while she’s going to the bathroom. Reopen her later. I’m self amusing myself hard core. Boom, she qualifying herself massively. Guess it’s also because I’m screening for hotter girls while she’s talking to me. Haha. 3 minutes left to get the last Metro. Go for the number. A little shit test on that. I like girls doing that. Recently they have no chance with that. I PLAY TO WIN: “either you give me the number or you come with me now”. She looks like “did you really just say that?”. I’m just smiling. Haha. She gives me her number. While waiting in the metro station I get a text from her “do you have facebook?”. I respond “6 minutes left to join me on the metro”. “I can’t, have to stay at my friends birthday party. Text me when you’ve time”

Conclusion:
-went out even though we had only 1 hour to game – good
-my believe that “going out for 20 minutes a day is enough” is getting stronger and stronger: got 3 numbers, a makeout and almost a pull – very good

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Thursday DAY:
Zonk and me are in the metro heading back home from a meal. I see a blonde HB8 (HOOOOT). Open her and owning it (self amusement of glory). She’s into it. Unfortunately we have to get out of the metro 2 stops later so I get into my head: “what should I do? Number? Makeout? Nothing, because there is not enough time for the number close?” Fuck, I’m done, I have to get out. Anyway I almost made out with her but nothing happened because I hesitated. FUUUCK. Note to myself: next time just pull her out at my station “2 minutes…”.

Conclusion:
-I’m getting more and more comfortable to open during the day. And this is happening while just doing my mundane tasks. That’s even better than if I go out deliberately to approach girls because it’s the behavior of a naturally attractive alpha male who just goes for what he wants ALL THE TIME – very good

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Thursday:
Zonk and me start at our favorite bar – where else? We do some sets but nothing seems to hook. Go to another club we have free tickets for. It’s completely empty. Cut, next!

Back at our favorite club of GLORY. We get warmed up with the first few sets while we see the 2 set we pulled back in week 1. They’re receptive but Zonk and myself don’t do anything. WTF is happening???

I get into state. YEAH!

I see a guy “dancing” with a girl. He’s not taking care of the people around them and crashes a few times into us. I go in hard core “Ay! What are you doing!”. He’s stifled. I turn to the girl “Anyway, …” vomiting times begin. The guy just walks off. Haha. This happens more and more often recently. I pull her to the dancefloor. This is a crazy that wants to dance the whole time. “NO, come here, FOCUS!”. I go in for the makeout 5 times. Nogo. Later I see her with other dudes dancing. She’s just an attention whore…

We do a few more sets but nothing hooks. I have a little state crash a 2 am where I am not motivated to do any more sets. This happens to me more and more recently. I guess it’s because we start very strong and do a large number of sets. This needs energy. Sooner or later I get a little bit exhausted and I’m not motivated any more.

Conclusion:
-Zonk and me played to not loose with the 2 HB9 girls from week 1. But there’s nothing to loose – damnit
-I’m getting stronger and stronger in my believe that my frame is very strong: blowing dudes out while they are dancing with a girl and stuff HAHA – good
-have to figure something out to not waste too much energy at the begin of the night

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Friday:
Zonk and me head to our fav. bar. Later Awesome Steve joins us. We open a greek HB7 set but they are very stifled. Time to eject.

It’s time for Swedish love! Steve opens a Swedish 4set. Zonk and me join. We’re shooting the shit. Unfortunately Steve’s girl has a BF. It was funny though because we tried a new bullshit we developed. It works as follows: Ask the question “when was the last time you had sex…” wait a little to build up the tension and then continue “…with a dinosaur?”. But before we were able to continue with the second part of the question the girl already answered “with someone else?”. It was hilarious! Anyway, nogo on this girl. Zonk gets the number of his girl. But what about Mr. Mountaineer? Unfortunately I had a fatty to wing. Nothing for me. Shit happens. Take it for the team!

Anyway, it’s time for the next venue. Zonk got free tickets. When we arrive it looks a little strange. The guy at the wardrobe whispers that it’s a gay party there tonight. WTF, we immediately turn and get the hell out of that place.

We’re a little confused where to go next because our plan just ended in smoke. I don’t like it when you have to deliberately think about where to go next. Not good for my state. But we find a relative quick solution even though that venue had negative reference experiences anchored to it. Whatever, since my last BC everything seems different. So let’s give it a try.

I say to myself: “fuck that old limiting beliefs about this venue”. The second I get into the location I’m immediately on and start to open left and right like a madman.

I open a brunette HB7 from germany hard core. She’s into it but stifled. Go in for the makeout 3 times while semi isolating her from the group but Nogo. BUT, she doesn’t go away. I like it! I’m on fire and want to make shit happen and not wait till stifled girls get warmed up so I eject.

Open a few girls by going in very hard, like going into groups with 4 dudes and one hottie. I don’t give a shit.

Next girl is a tall blonde HB8 (HOOOT). I go in very direct, being right in her face. Go for the makeout after 30sec, cheek. I vomit around. Go in again, cheek. Fuck! Further vomiting times. Go in again, cheek. Damn! Then she leaves. I’m pretty sure she was down for it but I was just too fast. If I slowed down a little it would have worked.

ANYWAY, I’m on fire and immediately open the next girl hard. Cute brunette HB7. Go in for the makeout after 2min. She gives me a little shit test about that. BUT I’m ICY as fuck! I have this thing down now. Going in for the makeout and not getting it is not affecting me in any kind. THIS IS HUGE!

So, I lead her around the venue and finally to the chillout area where we sit down. Vomiting timez. Go in for the makeout again. Get it! YES! Some vomiting and then time for some rapport. More makeout. TIME FOR LOGISTICS. She’s sharing her flat but is currently alone there. Good! But I want to pull her to my place. She’s currently alone cuz a friend is escorting a drunken friend home. I don’t know when the friend comes back. So I start to initiate the pull with “are you good at [random video game]? It’s fun, we should play later”. More vomiting. Then getting more concrete “lets go to my place and play it”. She’s a little hesitant but it looks like she just needs some more excuses (taking the responsibility off of her!). Moments later her friend calls that she’s back in the venue. Shit, I try to befriend the friend. Her friend is friendly and talkative but she pulls her away to the bathroom. DAMNIT!!! FUCK!!!

I don’t really know what to do and get into my head. Follow them to the toilet or assume that they will come back and just chill? I choose the latter one because I don’t want to be/look needy. 5 minutes later they’re still not back. Shit!

Guys, any input on that one?

It’s pretty late so we leave the venue and start to approach in front of the venue. Steve gets his megaphone. It’s hilarious! I open a few sets hard core with different role play. The self amusement gets to the next level.

I see the girl I made out with before. She talks to a guy. I just go in take her hand and want to pull her away. But it doesn’t work. Fuck.

Then a blonde HB8 goes to the taxi. Zonk yells to me: “do not let her get into that taxi”. I immediately know that he means the HS scene with Tyler where he goes to a girl and says “don’t get into that taxi! Come here instead!”. Without further ado I go directly to the taxi “Ay girl, don’t get into that taxi”. She turns around a looks me deep into the eyes. Suddenly out of the blue a guy steps between us and she takes the taxi. It’s all going down pretty fast. WOW, at first I’m just proud that I did it. Second we all begin to laugh because it was funny as fuck!

That’s it, we call it a night.

Conclusion:
-took massive action and opened very direct like a mad man and went for the makeout (not waiting for her permission) several times – good
-I’m ICY as fuck when it comes to not getting the makeout – good
-challanged old beliefs about a venue I had many negative reference experiences – very good
-guess I waited to long to make the pull happen with the girl I had already made out and built comfort – damnit
-pushed the envelope to the next level by doing the HS Tyler taxi set haha – good

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Saturday DAY:
It’s a very sunny and hot day. Zonk, Awesome Steve and me head out to the Surf Worldcup Opening in Podersdorf (Neusiedlersee). Time for some daygame. We start with a few indirect sets. They go nowhere. People seem stifled. Whatever, we just chill at the beach and having a blast. Zonk tries his new BOSE sound system. Yeah, we listen to our favorite podcast “Trance Around The World”. Seems like Tyler also listens to that shit (check out the youtube in his article about “How To Attract With Polarity VS Saying Things To Hold The Girls' Attention”).

The self amusement level we’re getting is unbelievable. We’re doing random bullshit. We also record our own version of “Jeffy Is Old, Brad Is Better” starring Awesome Steve and Zonk:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GWxo8H5r70

Time to get some money. At the cash dispenser I open a brunette HB7. She’s working at the box office. I fool around and enjoy myself massively. Unfortunately we get no special conditions for the tickets.

On our way back to the parking area I’m already in state. Open a mixed set. A girl starts to ask me questions where I’m from and stuff. I claw her in and vomit around. BUT I don’t go for the makeout. STUPID! I guess she was fuckin DOWN for it. Shit. More and more often just my foolishness prevent me from getting more results. WTF!?


Conclusion:
-even though we got almost only negative reactions (stifled) we continued to approach – good
-out of nowhere we amused ourself hard core. Don’t giving a shit what others are thinking about us – very good


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Saturday:
After a rumpsteak at the beach we head out to the party area. It’s ridiculous. On the parking area every 3rd car has a fucking lound audio system running. There’s also a DJ playing minimal in the middle of the parking area with a complete equipment including mixer and big music speakers and a generator for the power supply.

Anyway, we get into the party area. I need a few minutes until I make the first few sets. We are standing right at the entrance where we have a nice stream of hotties to pull out.

Time to go in hard. Open a young brunette HB7 “player” girl. Haha, that’s funny. The claw already has her. I isolate her. Go for the makeout after 2min. Some hesitation. But she’s down, I can feel it. I say “You’re a player girl”. She says “Yes”. WTF is this. She’s moving her lips in front of mine. Enough, I push her away. Pull her back in and go for the makeout again. Get it. Yes!

She’s a very bad kisser. Because of that and it’s just around 9 oder 10 pm I send her back to her friends “Go back to your friends, see you later (maybe)”. Haha!

Zonk, Awesome Steve and me approach a ton of sets and are on an insane self amusement level. Especially Zonk is full on fire rocking his giant pasteboard Desperados bottle of GLORY.

Anyway, we see another girl (blonde HB9) we already met 2 or 3 weeks before in our favorite club. She was very receptive but pretty stifled and it was the beginning of the night so we ejected. Zonk regretted it a little bit that he didn’t go for the number back then so he gets the number this time.

We see 2 girls we know from a weekend in Croatia about 2 years ago. Just shooting the shit. Zonk gets reminded of the fact that he wanted to go for her back in the day but didn’t push it. But this story continues on another day haha.

Zonk initiates an insta date with blond HB9. I wing him with the fatty. It is time for the CBDT (cock blocker distraction team; if you don’t know it yet take a look at the picture in week 3). Unfortunately I have to engage fatty without having any ham. HAHA. But I do my best. Because it is not possible for Zonk to escalate (girl is still stifled and I’m not able to really distract the fatty – got no HAM) and just standing there not escalating is just harming Zonks chances to close her I grab him and off we go to “go dance”. I like it when we do this shit that normally only girls do: “we gotta go dance now” or “we gotta go to the bar” or “we gotta go to the bathroom”. Girls get very confused because no guy is doing that shit. Haha.

A little time later I open a brunette HB7. She’s already behind the corner but I have still her hand. I slightly pull her back. Vomiting times motherfuckers! Go in for the makeout 3 times. Nogo. But she stays. This means “Not yet” haha. So you get a kiss on the cheek bitch. After a few minutes she says that she has to go back to her friends. “Anyway, …” I vomit around. She stays. A little later she says again that she has to go back to her friends. I say “But, you’re my only chance for love tonight! Give me a hug!”. We say goodbye to each other. Then MAKEOUT. Yeah!

We a ton more hotties, like a stunning tall blonde HB9 from heaven. I am very dominant. When friends try to interrupt me I say stuff like “Get away, she’s my girl. Get the hell out of here, you’re done in this town” (props to Tyler). Go in for the makeout several times but Nogo. Shit. Finally her friends drag her away.

While already going to the exit we are still amusing ourself with a new runup that we’ve developed. But more about that in the future.

Time to call it a night bitches!

Conclusion:
-this was the craziest day so far. The self amusement was at an insane level. Everything completely sober – good
-temporarily we were addicted to it to the point we didn’t push the sets forward – not ideal
-my persistence reached a whole new level. It’s over when it’s really over – no second earlier – good
-eventually 2 makeouts in one night again – good


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Sunday:
It’s time for a day 2. I didn’t do day2s for a long time because of different reasons (thought its lame, you need to close the deal on the same day not investing another day for it; it kind of fucks around in my head with my FB).

Anyway, I manage it that blonde HB8 (solid set from week 4, no makeout in the club but she bought me a drink) comes back to my place. And we will never leave it. Haha. Before the day2 I remind myself that it’s nothing different than in the club. Just be chill and amuse yourself while moving things forward.

She arrives. I claw her in. Lead her around my flat. I own it. Vomit around. Awesome vibe. Time for the makeout. I go in. Get it. Yeah! We make out in front of the neighbours. They’re looking. I say “You like it to do it in front of them”. She just smiles. Haha.

Time for some deep rapport. Then I pin her against several walls of my flat, full makeout. Throw her into the bed. More makeout and grinding. She finds a hair of another girl (from FB or SNL, who cares). I don’t care. More makeout and grinding. Then she starts to introduce her “RULES”. Like no sex on the first date, no one gets undressed. I just play around with it. Open her bra and. While she’s busy closing it I open the buttons of her pants. It’s hilarious. Unfortunately NO TIME TO FUCK. It’s no problem for me if it’s happening on the second date. Who cares, the evening was awesome anyway.

So I “kick” her out of my flat and kiss her goodbye.

Conclusion:
-got over some old limiting beliefs concerning day2’s – good
-I owned that shit except to push through LMR – damnit


Guys, that’s it for Week 5. Hope you enjoyed it! Don’t forget to write me your thoughts on the girl on Friday that I wasn’t able to pull home.

Cheers!
Mountaineer-
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#23
Brad

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Haha, love the video!!!!

I'd say for the Friday pull you need to be more unapologetic, just go for sex, or "no reason" extraction.

"Hey!  Let's get out of here."

HER: Where are we going?

YOU:  DOn't worry it's going to be fun!  My place!  Now!  Sko!  Real quick, don't worry I'll help you find your friend in a minute.
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Video game stuff is just an excuse, be a real man and make it happen...
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thx for your input Brad!
will definitely try it that way next time

Brad- wrote:
Haha, love the video!!!!

I'd say for the Friday pull you need to be more unapologetic, just go for sex, or "no reason" extraction.

"Hey!  Let's get out of here."

HER: Where are we going?

YOU:  DOn't worry it's going to be fun!  My place!  Now!  Sko!  Real quick, don't worry I'll help you find your friend in a minute.
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Week 6 (30.04. – 06.05.)

Sooooo, Mountaineer is back with another week of adventures. But first things first. Writing FRs takes much time, too much time. Time that I miss in other areas. So I decided to KISS (keep it short and simple) from now on. That means cutting out interactions where I didn’t push the envelope or no new insights arised.


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Monday:
FB

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Tuesday Text Game Special:
Didn’t go out but had an interesting text game insight. It was with a brunette HB8 I number closed after 30 sec while she was leaving the club. After good text convo and the day was already arranged I was trying to set it up directly at my place. After the day 2 of week 5 which started at my place and we never left my flat this was no big deal for me. But she didn’t respond well to that meeting point and shit tested me about it. After I answered “this system [meeting at my place] has proved to be successful and every now and then girls can’t read the watch…” She was not responding. After sending another text she was like “hey, I liked you but your last few texts are very unsympathetically. So, let it alone”. I was like FUCK, game over. BUT then I recognized that this (like everything else) is just a shit test. So I texted “hey HB, shit it is hard to text without having tools like body language and facial expressions. It is easy to misinterpret my texts. Forget about them. We will try it face 2 face tomorrow. What do you think?”. That’s it. It worked!

Conclusion:
-challenged an old believe about when something is over and when NOT – good


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Wednesday Day2:
After my glorious text comeback from Monday it was time for the day 2. Because it was sunny we met outside. I was self amusing like a mad man. It was too much BUT I used this day 2 more as a playground for “never running out of things to say”. I wanted to get a bullet proof believe that I will never run out of things to say on a day 2. Therefore I was (unconsciously) doing the exercise which is done on Hot Seat where you start with a sentence/story and just continue with the next sentence/story with one part of the preceding one. HB8 got a little confused because she wanted to know how the stories ended. But she was into it. Good practice of VOMITING! Yeah!

Anyway, she was pretty stifled to physical escalation except the initial claw at the very start of our interaction. What was interesting though is that she said “you’re very touchy”, I played around with it like “Take care I’ve touched you right now…”. We’re lying next to each other. She was cool with touching her legs but every other thing freaked her out. I don’t know what was “the problem” there but after 2 hours it was time to hit the club so we ended it.

Conclusion:
-i have a rock solid believe now that I can talk for hours on a day 2 without running out of things to say –good
-I don’t know what happened. She was down to get touched on the legs but everything else freaked her out – any input on that one?

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Wednesday:
So, after the day 2 went nowhere I’m a little bit in my head. I hesitate for 3 mins after entering the club. usually I open immediately after entering the club the first set to get it out of the way and get the ball rollin’ – but not this time.

Open the first set of 2 young HB6 to get unstifled. Awesome Steve joins in. They have to catch the last metro. Whatever…

There are very few interesting (hot) girls there. Open a HB6, she’s receptive. I go in for the makeout after 5min, nogo. A few minutes later I go in again, she leaves.

It feels that I’m still in my head thinking about what went wrong on the day 2. I call it a night.

Conclusion:
-even though I was in my head because the day 2 went nowhere I did my sets – good

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Thursday:
Zonk and me start at our favorite bar. Open a set from an advertising agency. Blablabla, stifled as fuck. Cut, next. Steve joins us.

Time for the next venue. On the way outside I open a police officer girl from England. Very cute face, but all in all only a HB6. I game her hard, go in for the makeout 2 times, nogo. But she’s still there. Haha. Time to bounce so I get the number and off we go. Even though I don’t want to fuck her will day 2 her to practice day 2’s and try unusual things (props to Brad).

Arrive at our favorite club. First set immediately. Do some sets. Go nowhere.

Open brunette HB8 hard. After 5 min I go for the makeout. Boom, I get it. Nice. She has to leave with her friends. I go for the number. Shit test. Haha. She had no chance. Get the number.

After some more sets I open a brunette HB7 “Patho girl” at the bar. I call her Patho girl because she wants to become a pathologist. Steve wings me and engages her friend that is at least one head taller than he is. He blows himself out because he’s not able to deal with a shit test concerning his height. Poor Stevie boy.

Anyway Patho girl is investing in the interaction. Her friends come a few times to “go dance” but she stays. Good. But she’s stifled. I lead her away from the bar. While Steve joins in and talks to me her friends come along and pull her away to the bar. Shit. We have to improve the wingmanship. When 1:1 it makes no sense that the wing interrupts.

After some more sets it’s time to leave the club. On the way out I open a drunk blonde HB8 and pull her outside of the club. Because Steve is by far more in state then I am at the point she immediately focuses on him. Whatever, I’m tired and hungry so I take one for the team and let him game her. We move her to the sausage stand where I grab a hot dog. I know this is very healthy…

At this time Steve gets into his head. I can see the shift from outcome independence to getting needy. He still gets the number but no makeout. We call it a night.

Conclusion:
-believe “getting the number even though she initially says no is no big deal” got another good reference experience – good
-another reference experience for a quick makeout after 5min – good
-we need to improve wingmanship. There’s no point in interrupting a wing when he’s 1:1 with his girl
-I open hard and go for the pull while I’m leaving the club even though the chances are low (play to win) – good
-have to move girls faster in the club. most of the time I wait to long – damnit

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Friday:
Zonk, Steve and me start at a bar. I meet a colleague from work by chance. I eject after a few minutes because I don’t want to get stuck there.

Open a hen party and a mixed 2set. Full self amusement. Even though there is no chance to get the girl I just shoot the shit and get more and more into state.

Then I open a brunette HB8 hard. Boom, it’s on. After 2min her sister comes in and cock blocks the shit out of me like what I want from her sister or if I’m able to take care of her. I stay cool and unreactive. Play around with her comments. Then move HB8 outside of the venue. It’s on. I want to build a little bit more rapport before going in for the makeout. But after a few minutes evil sister is back once again. WTF!!! Steve distracts her a little bit and I get the number. Guess she was down for the makeout but I didn’t go for it right away. Damnit!

Time to bounce to the next venue. We arrive at a venue that was very intimidating to me. But now I don’t give a shit there anymore. I open girls that are surrounded by 3 huge dudes and one surrounded by 4 dudes. I’m very unreactive. I like it! Unfortunaltely no lovin’ for Mountaineer in the club…

Time to get out of here. In front of the club I open a girl who is going to get into a taxi with Tylers “Girl, don’t get into the taxi. Come here!”. It’s hilarious. She comes. We manage to move her a few meters but then she’s gone. Fuck.

Conclusion:
-ejected from a comfort set (colleague) very fast to not get stuck there – good
-open sets hard (direct) not giving a shit – good
-I was very unreactive even though evil sister tested the shit out of me – good
-was in a dilemma: risk to go for the makeout too early or risk that evil sister comes back and the makeout window will be closed then; guess she was down for the makeout – shit
-don’t give a shit any more in venues that used to intimidate me – good

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Saturday DAY:
Zonk and me head to the Viennese city festival. I’m in fuckin state right from the get go. Doing stupid shit and opening left and right. Full Juliens “enjoying the feminine energy” I even talk to a granny for 2min and shoot the shit. Just be social and enjoy yourself and others! It’s like you talk to a wall and enjoy yourself.

Anyway, open brunette HB8. She’s into it but after 1min her BF comes in. Cut, next.

Steve joins us. We’re doing crazy self amusement stuff. Yeah!

Open a blonde HB8 which is with her mum. She freaks out, runs away and screams to her mum that she should join her. But mum still stands right next to me and smiles. She’s not that stifled and knows how to enjoy positive vibes of alpha guys like me. Haha!

A few minutes later I open a tall blonde HB8 (all HB8 today haha) just with strong EC. She stops, is very chill. Good convo. She’s 15??? WTF! Let’s make the best out of it: “we will go on a date in 3 years, give me your FB”. After adding her we move on. More about that girl in my FR in 2015!

Conclusion:
-have never been in state like that during the day while being completely sober – very good
-did many sets and don’t give a shit – very good

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Saturday:
Zonk, Steve and me head out to a bar where a friend of Zonk is celebrating her birthday. I normally don’t do warm approaches but because I just know 2 of the group I go for the bday child haha. Isolate her, dance with her, grinding on the dancefloor. go for the makeout, nogo. Shit, she gives me a strange shit test like “I’m normally uptight”. What the fuck is this? I’m a little bit confused and we go back to the group. Get the number though.

Do some other sets but the go nowhere. Time for the next venue. Fuckin’ good music but just 30 people there. I do a mixed set and we leave the venue.

The next venue is a little strange for me. Reggae and Dancehall music. I’m not used to that shit. Anyway, after a few minutes I open a brunette HB7 with glasses. Starts good but then she tries to lead a little. Then she gets stifled to get touched on the head and stuff. It get’s boring and I think to myself what was the reason to even approach her? To do a set? Anyway, I eject.

After some sets that go nowhere I open a blonde HB7. Try to move her alone to the other floor but her friends join us. Shit. Try to semi-isolate her. I amp up the physicality. Then her friend pulls her away.

Time to grab a snack and call it a night.

Conclusion:
-did a warm approach after a long time. Normally I don’t do it – good
-was confused by the shit test I got after going in for the makeout “I’m normally uptight” because it doesn’t make any sense – damnit
-have to eject from a set earlier if I find out that the girl isn’t interesting any more


That was week 6. Hope you enjoyed reading as much as I enjoyed writing about it.

Looking forward to many more Wild And Perfect Days




Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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#27

pringles

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Join Date: 04/28/2009 | Posts: 963

 -I don’t know what happened. She was down to get touched on the legs but everything else freaked her out – any input on that one?

outer game:
Make it fun i.e say random shit that pumps your state while getting physical...

Buuuuut there is the other side to it
inner game:
when she reacts negatively to u in any way...as long as you are emotinally independant to her reaction (i.e no up or down in emotion based on her reactions) then you pas the shit test and she wants you more


oh and you don't need rapport for a makeout....you just need to flow....trying to systematize the interaction is basically being a permission boy....its basically saying im not good enough unless this this and this happens....this is a big no no...if you are stilll working on being enough move in for the makeout as you feel it (hint you felt it when you thought i need to build rapport for the makeout huur duur) 

good reports keep it up
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#28

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

Haha i read a lot of Zonk and Stevie...how bout Chris is he going out with u guys????
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Zonk~

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Join Date: 04/12/2012 | Posts: 91

ChinaBoy~ wrote:
Haha i read a lot of Zonk and Stevie...how bout Chris is he going out with u guys????
Not at the moment!
Haven't seen him for a while.
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Mountaineer- wrote:
*Week 5 (23.04. – 29.04.)

I can’t believe that the Munich weekend (with HS and BC) is just one month ago. I was taking so much action that the intensity felt like 3 months. And the best of all: COMPLETELY SOBER!

I also can't believe that Munich is just a couple of weeks ago. The last weeks were enormous intensive with a great progress! If we're able to keep that speed, the upcoming month are going to be hilarious. :)

Wednesday:
Zonk and me head out to a club. We have just about 1 hour because we have to get home early for work. Nevertheless we’re doing it. Remember Tyler saying “20 mins are enough”.

On the way to the club Zonk is on fire and very motivated. After entering the club I open immediately hard core. Boom, it goes very well. One brunette HB7 is leaving the club to get up early but offers me her number. Yes!

Open a blonde HB8 very direct. Pull her back in. She has to go to her friends. Try to join her. Nogo. She offers me her number too. Yes, I’m the shit haha.

Open HB6 with a very cute face while she’s going to the bathroom. Reopen her later. I’m self amusing myself hard core. Boom, she qualifying herself massively. Guess it’s also because I’m screening for hotter girls while she’s talking to me. Haha. 3 minutes left to get the last Metro. Go for the number. A little shit test on that. I like girls doing that. Recently they have no chance with that. I PLAY TO WIN: “either you give me the number or you come with me now”. She looks like “did you really just say that?”. I’m just smiling. Haha. She gives me her number. While waiting in the metro station I get a text from her “do you have facebook?”. I respond “6 minutes left to join me on the metro”. “I can’t, have to stay at my friends birthday party. Text me when you’ve time”

Great results for a very short time! Respect!

Thursday DAY:
Zonk and me are in the metro heading back home from a meal. I see a blonde HB8 (HOOOOT). Open her and owning it (self amusement of glory). She’s into it. Unfortunately we have to get out of the metro 2 stops later so I get into my head: “what should I do? Number? Makeout? Nothing, because there is not enough time for the number close?” Fuck, I’m done, I have to get out. Anyway I almost made out with her but nothing happened because I hesitated. FUUUCK. Note to myself: next time just pull her out at my station “2 minutes…”.

There were so many possibilities: aks fast for the number, drive one station longer together with here, pull her out of the sub, ... Next time I'll tell you what to do! ;) But I think it wasn't enough for a makeout!

Thursday:
Back at our favorite club of GLORY. We get warmed up with the first few sets while we see the 2 set we pulled back in week 1. They’re receptive but Zonk and myself don’t do anything. WTF is happening???
-Zonk and me played to not loose with the 2 HB9 girls from week 1. But there’s nothing to loose – damnit

This door is still not closed. I'm sure we'll meet them again! Lets call it a long-time-approach! haha

Friday:
It’s time for Swedish love! Steve opens a Swedish 4set. Zonk and me join. We’re shooting the shit. Unfortunately Steve’s girl has a BF. It was funny though because we tried a new bullshit we developed. It works as follows: Ask the question “when was the last time you had sex…” wait a little to build up the tension and then continue “…with a dinosaur?”. But before we were able to continue with the second part of the question the girl already answered “with someone else?”. It was hilarious! Anyway, nogo on this girl. Zonk gets the number of his girl. But what about Mr. Mountaineer? Unfortunately I had a fatty to wing. Nothing for me. Shit happens. Take it for the team!

They were from Finland, not from Sweden! ;)

Saturday:
Zonk, Awesome Steve and me approach a ton of sets and are on an insane self amusement level. Especially Zonk is full on fire rocking his giant pasteboard Desperados bottle of GLORY.
-this was the craziest day so far. The self amusement was at an insane level. Everything completely sober – good

It really was the craziest, most awesome, self-amusing day of all since Munich. Can't wait to get to Podersdorf again next year! :)))

Sunday:
It’s time for a day 2. I didn’t do day2s for a long time because of different reasons (thought its lame, you need to close the deal on the same day not investing another day for it; it kind of fucks around in my head with my FB).

Anyway, I manage it that blonde HB8 (solid set from week 4, no makeout in the club but she bought me a drink) comes back to my place. And we will never leave it. Haha. Before the day2 I remind myself that it’s nothing different than in the club. Just be chill and amuse yourself while moving things forward.

She arrives. I claw her in. Lead her around my flat. I own it. Vomit around. Awesome vibe. Time for the makeout. I go in. Get it. Yeah! We make out in front of the neighbours. They’re looking. I say “You like it to do it in front of them”. She just smiles. Haha.

Time for some deep rapport. Then I pin her against several walls of my flat, full makeout. Throw her into the bed. More makeout and grinding. She finds a hair of another girl (from FB or SNL, who cares). I don’t care. More makeout and grinding. Then she starts to introduce her “RULES”. Like no sex on the first date, no one gets undressed. I just play around with it. Open her bra and. While she’s busy closing it I open the buttons of her pants. It’s hilarious. Unfortunately NO TIME TO FUCK. It’s no problem for me if it’s happening on the second date. Who cares, the evening was awesome anyway.

So I “kick” her out of my flat and kiss her goodbye.

I'm sure you'll get the fclose in the upcoming weeks! She is on!!!!!

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