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[proVIE] Mountaineer From Vienna: From Intermediate Purgatory To Advanced Stealth Awesomeness
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*Week 69 (08.07. – 14.07.) – Drunken Mastery In Scandinavia Part II

Well, it’s time for another week of Scandinavian adventures. After I successfully blowed the hottest girl by pure stupidity and did other unnecessary stupid shit that costed me lays I am in pain and like a hungry cheetah looking for some gazelles.

Somehow I recovered from the fungal infection I guess. At least my dick looks pretty normal again. So my intent finally is getting up again.

DISCLAIMER: I normally don’t go for makeouts in the club anymore because it goes against “assuming” and gives the girl something she can be defensive about. Mostly about what is going to happen when she’s going home with you. Since my bootcamp in January I almost never went for the makeout before I already had the girl home (SNL and Day2) where I can amp it up immediately and fuck her. This approach worked very good for me (as you can read in my FRs). Somehow the “incident” with the superhot blonde from Lapland gave me massive pain and made me think that in some situations it’s maybe better to make out with her because this makes her more invested in the situation. Otherwise you’re “just” some cool dude she’s interested in where this will lead to. She would go home with you if there are no logistical problems. But if there are problems like her friends just wanting to go to another loacation she has no reason to stick to you because she isn’t invested yet because she didn’t make out with you. Even though I believe now that this concrete situation was not predictable because it seemed that they’re just going to the dancefloor for a couple of minutes and I can easily go back in 10min later they were gone by then. If I would’ve made out with her I guess I would’ve laid her. SO, conclusion is to not categorically banish makeouts from the club anymore but use them wisely to get commitment in the case of SNLs.

The whole Scandinavian trip was very funny and I had plenty of awesome reference experiences. With Monday leading the way. Somehow there is a missing puzzle piece here that is the bridge between me as a cool guy and the Scandinavian (mainly Swedish) culture. Something is a little bit off here. I guess it’s just a matter of some time spent here to calibrate to it so fair enough!


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Monday – Secret City in Scandinavia – One Of The Best Nights Ever:
From Helsinki we head over to a secret city. I guess I found the secret Mekka that also Alexander~ is talking about but never reveals. Smoking hot girls everywhere, guys without balls and cheep living costs. Perfect combination. Maybe this would be the place where I would settle when I’m going into my “Pickup pension” haha.

Anyway, after dinner we chill at our hotel room and start drinking. Have I already mentioned that our trip is powered by “The Famous Grouse”? LOL

It’s Monday and the city is not that big so the expectations are pretty low. We would have never expected that this would become one of the best nights ever. With happy ending of course haha.

Head out to the first bar. Just a few people there. Time for a beer. Afterwards we head over to another bar. At first there are just guys but then the bar fills up slowly.

I see a fucking hot blonde one and open her. She’s into me. After 2min a chode comes along and tries to amog me. He’s very bad at it. Tries to engage me. Tells me that he is working at this bar. I continue to talk to the girl. Then he whispers into my ear that she is “his sunshine”. Super pathetic. Of course I tell the girl about it. She immediately dissociates from him haha. He says that he has to kidnap her. She whispers into my ear that she will come back in a couple of minutes. Fair enough. Chill with the boys. Indeed, she comes along a couple of minutes later. Engages. Lead her a little bit away. We sit down. Good vibing. Banging this girl woud be nice. Turns out that she’s from out of town and sleeping at a friends place. In combination with the weirdo that is following her the whole time the term “fucked up logistics” would be more than adequate. After a couple of minutes again this weirdo comes along and pulls her away. I really have to check out the rest of the venue because if there is good material there it would be better to go for another girl.

Chill a little with the boys. Then see a cute brunette standing next to me. Super tight body. Only thing that I don’t really like is her cap. But I heard that it’s possible to get rid of this before sex so I’m not really worried about it… Open her. Good vibing. Somehow I still have the other girl in the back of my head. My strategy is to try to pull the brunette one as fast as possible and maybe later the blonde one from before. Maybe I went for it too early because she’s not complying for the afterparty. Get her number. Then lose her in the bar (cannot remember the reason).

In the meantime Zonk went home and Alex- openend a set. Since my brunette and the blonde are not around I join Alex- to see how he’s doing. Turns out his girl is part of a bday party. There is the bday kid (not hot) and another blonde girl (hot). Engage the blonde one. She’s into me. Make out with her after 5-10min (guess I needed some validation also after I fucked up the superhot blonde from Lapland last week). Screen the other girls also. Turns out that the bday kid is “looking for adventure” and Alex-‘ girl has a BF. I decide to stick to the blonde one. Lead her to some couches. Good vibing. Turns out that she’s living at her parents place. More makeout. But not too much of course…

Alright, the bar is closing. We all get out. On the way out another friend of her (tall hot blonde) throws out a statement concerning 3some. I cannot pull to our hotel because Zonk is already sleeping there and not to her place because of her parents. My girl tells me that she’s going over to her tall friend and asks if we can party at her place. Nice! In the meantime I chill with Alex-, his girl and bday kid nearby. After 10min she’s not back. WTF. Look around the corner. She’s talking to some dude. Hm… Get back to the guys. Her friends say that I should go for her and she’s down. Couple of minutes later I go over to my girl and tell her that we’re ALL leaving now. She tells me that she’s going with me but has to talk to this dude briefly. I say to her that she has 1minute and then we’re going. Get back to the guys. After some minutes she’s still not there. Fuck. Send her friends to get her. This works. BUT creepy guy (who is from England) is also joining us. Talk to Alex- about what to do. We have to pull back to our hotel room. That’s the only possible location. What about Zonk? We will bring him a girl that is looking for an adventure. Fair enough!

We’re heading in the direction of our hotel room (English weirdo is following us) when we lose my girl, the dude and the bday kid at some small restaurant that is still open. WTF, this is going to be hard work. Turn around to get back to them. My girl is not there. Go inside. Cannot see her. She has to be in the bathroom. Go there. It’s a unisex bathroom. She comes my way right when I enter the area. Grab her, pull her in and make out heavily. I don’t care and try to pull her into a cabin. Doesn’t work. Suddenly the blonde tall friend comes into the bathroom also. They talk something in their native language. Then creepy English dude also gets into the bathroom. WTF. After tall blonde goes into a cabin, he’s standing stupidly next to us. After an akward moment he gets into the other cabin. NOW OR NEVER. I grab my girl by the hand and pull her out of the bar. We (Alex-, his girl, the bday kid and I) immediately go at a good pace to our hotel room.

When we arrive Zonk is sleeping. We wake him up. At first he’s not motivated to do anything but then I tell him that we have a girl with us for him. He puts on a t-shirt. We turn on some music AND I start recording everything via my iPhone. Fuck yeah!

The hotel room looks as follows: we have 3 single beds next to each other. We’re just shooting the shit and then isolating every girl to the corresponding bed. Alex- with his girl, Zonk with the bday kid and I am with the blonde one. I start to fool around with my girl. She gives me little resistance. After a couple of minutes Alex- goes out to the staircase with his girl. Now only Zonk and me with our girls are back in the hotel room. My girl is horny as fuck. At first she says that I should stop it (in a funny way) and then she says “wait 5 minutes”. Zonk is still just talking to his girl. I ask my girl about her friend and if she’s down. She says “of course, he just should make a move”. Tell it to Zonk. About that time later, right when Zonk is finally making out with his girl, she just says that we should go to the bathroom. Head over with her and fuck her.
BANGTOWN VIENNA IN ESTONIA!!! Nice.

In the meantime Alex- is also making out with his girl in the staircase. Unfortunately he’s not able to bend her BF conscience. Zonk is already lying with his girl in the bed fingering her. But he doesn’t want to fuck her. Fair enough!

After I fucked my girl we take a shower, dress up and head back to the hotel room. We collect Alex- and his girl from the staircase. We chill a little and think about how to throw them out. Finally we decide to grab some breakfast. Head to a 24h sausage stand nearby. And now the creepiest shit happens. Creepy guy from England is suddenly there again. Alex- and I are making fun of him. Hilarious. We say good bye to the girls and head back to our hotel room.

Conclusion:
-one of the best nights ever. plowed through all the bullshit and pulled 3 girls to the hotel room and fucked my girl in the bathroom while Zonk and Alex- were fooling around with their girls. This is a big reference experience for staying positive and persisting even if it seems that your set got fucked up due to logistics. Fucked her even though Zonk was already back at the hotel room sleeping, my girl suddenly was talking to some dude for a longer time and we brought 3 girls back to our hotel. Nice!

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Tuesday – Secret City in Scandinavia:
Today Feelgood and Terminator arrive. We start at the same bar as the day before. Pretty empty. Then one hote brunette is standing right next to me at the bar. Open her. It’s a 2set. Zonk engages her not that hot friend. She has kind of a long distance relationship. Hm, since there are no alternatives I stick to her. We head over with them to another bar. Empty, so after a couple of minutes we move on to the bar we ended up the day before. Because I don’t really know if my girl is down for some action or not I have to “physically screen” meaning go for the makeout. Don’t get it. Persist for it a couple of times with some vibing in between. Still nogo. This set will lead to nowhere. Cut, next.

Go for a round in the bar. Unfortunately no other cute sets at this time. Time to chill. Zonk engages both girls for some more time. We head over to the bar that is right next to this bar. There is just one 3set with semi-hot girls. Whatever, for the sake of a 3 on 3 pull its fair enough. I open. The boys join in. After some time I initiate the afterparty plotline. At first I get some shit, then they look down and finally they strangely eject and go away. Very strange behavior.

Since the bar is empty we head back to the bar before. Our 2set is still there. Zonk engages and finally pulls them home. After Alex- and I stick to the bar and finally don’t find any set a strange guy approaches us and asks us about communism. We get the hell out of there. While we get a snack at the sausage stand Zonk texts me that he needs support. We arrive at our hotel room where they’re just chilling and talking. We tell Zonk that he has to isolate his girl. Doesn’t happen so finally they just go. Done.

Conclusion:
-good that I went for the “physical screening” because otherwise I would’ve wasted the whole night with my girl
-unfortunately there were no other good sets there so fair enough

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Wednesday – Secret City in Scandinavia:
Alright, Alex-, Zonk and I head out to a club that finally has open on Wednesday. Compared to the bars there’s much going on and there are smoking hot girls all over the place. We get pretty wasted. My girl from Monday texts me where I’m at. Bootycall, nice. BUT you guy should know Mountaineer and that I’m not just going the easy way and fuck a girl that I already fucked if I have the possibility to fuck new girls. I begin to think about different strategies like banging the girl from Monday immediately, then get back to the club and go for another pull or play it the other way around. That’s definitely no way that I would just hang out with her the whole night to just pull her at the end of the night and take no action during the whole night. Go for the first option and screen with how many friends she’s out. If she’s out with more than one friend it’s pretty easy to just get her back to the hotel room for some drinks and fuck her. She texts me that she’s here with one friend. Damnit, it’s not possible to split them up. Conclusion for me is to try to pull her at the end of the night. Begin to do sets. But its very strange. Get very bitchy reaction right from the get go. The sets don’t open at all. Shit. My girl from Monday arrives at the club. Talk to her a little and eject again. I continue to do sets but it’s all going nowhere. Since the pull of a new girl is very unprobable now because it’s already pretty late I look for my Monday girl. Cannot see her at first but she finds me after a couple of minutes. She’s fucking horny and wants to go. Her friend is still around. Put her friend together with Zonk. I leave the club with her and get back to my hotel room. There everything goes straight forward and I fuck her. This time in the bed which is 100 times better haha.

Conclusion:
-I’m proud of myself that I didn’t go the easy way and went for new girls in combination with banging the girl from Monday. Not before the chances of a new lay were very low I took my girl home. Sweet!

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Thursday – Stockholm:
We fly over to Stockholm. I’m very excited about the Swedish girls everyone is talking about. We check into our apartment and grab some sleep because we’re extremely fucked up from last night.

Head out with Alex- to Stureplan where we bump into Feelgood and Terminator by accident. First stop is Berns. It’s just open outside. Quality concerning girls is pretty poor. We just drink one Bacardi Cola for 13 EUR (!). I have enough of this shit, time to move on. Then we jump from bar to bar. I’m still not convinced by the quality since there are plenty of ugly and/or old (30+) girls there. In one bar that seems more snobby there even is a fat and ugly girl that is falling on the floor several times. Then we come along Soap Bar. Hot Girls but it’s packed full and the queue seems to not get shorter. Finally end up in DIS. This is a smaller club where they shot parts of Chodes Night Out haha. No entrance fee so fair enough. Unfortunately the quality is still not good. It’s like you hear it in stories about guys from Scandinavia: there are tall, “good looking” guys that are orbiting around even semi-attractive girls and dancing like clowns. They make no move at all. It’s so pathetic to watch. After some time I see the first 2 set where both girls are pretty cute and open them. Alex- joins in. At first it seems that Alex-‘ girl is not into him and drags my girl away “to smoke”. When they come back it looks completely different. Alex-‘ girl engages and my girl is strange. WTF… I cannot remember the details but we lose them eventually.

We chill some more and get to know a cool dude from New York (non pickup dude) before Steve rolls up with Alexander~ and the rest of the bootcamp crew. Steve is attending the bootcamp. I don’t like to have plenty of RSD guys around that creep girls out so after we finish our drink we head over to Spybar. The ratings of this club are very bad so we expect that it would be pretty good haha. Get in. Nooo. Quality is not good. Just a couple of cute girls there. Long story made short, do the cute girls which are either engaged or already busy. Try to head over to Soap Bar which had hot girls there but the longer queue. It’s already closed. Shit.

Conclusion:
- I’m a little pissed. That is the famous Sweden? Of course we went to the wrong locations. It’s a matter of calibration…
-we already got some tips for clubs with very high quality. I’m really looking forward to that!

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Friday – Stockholm:
Head out to Café Opera. High end venue with very good quality of girls. I open a bigger group. Focus on a superhot blonde. Her friends go away and leave her with me. Good vibing starts. Nice. Unfortunately she tells me that she has to get up early next day and has to go home now. Her friend is already waiting. It’s my first set of the night and it’s pretty early so I just let her go. Little did I know that this would be the best set of the night…

Then different sets where I lose the girls sooner or later. Not worth to be mentioned. What I definitely didn’t like is that more and more girls get into the “table section” of the club. This means they’re not approachable anymore. Some SwedeFaggs buy them several drinks and then the girls go home alone. Solid…

Open a blonde hottie in the chillout area. She’s there with a friend. Unfortunately no one wings me. Go with them to the wardrobe because they need to get rid of their jackets. Afterwards I lose them at the bathroom.

Open a brunette cutie in a 2set on the dancefloor. She’s taller than I am. Her sister is an ugly fuck. Really. Alex- engages her. I isolate her away after 2min. She’s very stifled and didn’t really open up after some time. I lose my patience and eject.

The club is emptying out so we decide to head over to another place. Outside I see blonde hottie from before walking by. I follow her and re-open her on the street. Join them on the way to another club. It goes nowhere and we finally end up in in Solidaritet again. Zonk goes home.

There we wander around a little before we get it started. It’s pretty late so less and less good sets are there. Maybe we did a few sets that didn’t even open. Then we see a 3set. Unfortunately Alex- is faster than me and approaches the hottest one (blonde) before I get to it. I engage the friends (brunette and blonde cuties). The blonde one disappears after 2min. It seems pretty on with my brunette. Why “seems”? Because some later I find out that she has a BF. Whatever, since Alex-‘ girl looks very down I stick to it. Isolate her a little away and go for the makeout. Nogo. But she stays. More good vibing. I don’t get it. She behaves like she’s down: engaging, leaning in, having the anime eyes. Whats going on here? Go again for the makeout like 3 times. Nogo. In between tell her that she doesn’t have to stay here if I’m going over the top. She still stays. Finally her blonde friend pulls her away. Alex- sticks to his blonde one. Looks good. I go for a round to see what’s left in this venue. Doesn’t look good. Guess I do some short sets not worth to be mentioned.

Alex-‘ girl behaves similar. Engaging, leaning in and anime eyes. Fortunately she’s single. Unfortunately he doesn’t get the makeout. He goes out with her to get some cash from the ATM. Almost doesn’t get back in due to a discussion with a bouncer. After the 3rd attempt gets the makeout but is unable to pull even though she’s horny as fuck AND he went through the fucking doorframe with her. Why do I tell this? Because on Saturday I will have a similar situation…

Conclusion:
-the club didn’t really fill up over the whole night

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Saturday – Stockholm:
Alright, this is the last night on our Scandinavian Rampage. We check the guestlist for Solitaritet. That’s the reason we’re already there pretty early. We are the first people in the fucking club. Whatever, we don’t care since we have plenty of stuff to talk about. Time for some beers. Slowly the venue fills up with chodes. At around midnight girls start to get into the venue. I get motivated. I am in 2 2-sets where the other girl is not that hot. No one wings me so I finally lose them.

Feelgood and Terminator arrive. We shoot the shit a little. The club is pretty crowded now. Do several sets. I see a pattern. Girls are attracted to the fact that you approach but somehow cannot really deal with the fact that a confident man with balls is standing in front of them. I don’t get it. Try different angles but the results stay the same…

Zonk goes home. Since Alex- and I want to go for a 2 on 2 pull with 2 hot blonde Swedish girls we decide that we now explictely just open sets with 2 hot girls in it. Unfortunately that’s not easy since there are very little around. See a blonde 2set. Both are hot. Let’s go! My girl is into it. Look over to Alex-. Unfortunately his girl is not really enjoying it. She tries to drag my girl away. My girl confirms that her friend wants to go. FUCK! Get her number to maybe find her later again.

It’s already pretty late. It’s the time when the vibe in the venue moves over to this weird thing were girls are frightened to get approached by creepy guys. We don’t find appropriate 2sets. Instead I see a cute blonde near the dancefloor. Open her. It’s fucking loud. I hate it. However, since the last times in Scandinavia I tried to lead a girl a little bit away very early in the interaction it didn’t work so I endure this pain in the ass of loud music. She’s opening up. Time to lead her away. Good vibing. She’s single. Since her friends are also in the club I go for some commitment aka makeout. Nogo. More vibing. Go again and after the 3rd time I get it. More good vibing. Amp it up a little. Since it’s already pretty late I go for the afterparty. Nogo. Try different angles. Nogo. WHY? The answer is “just because”. WTF… Finally I get her number (pointless because I’m already leaving next day) and let her go.

Outside talk to Alex- and Steven who just walked by. Then I see my girl coming out of the club. 4 times for the win. Get back in. Her friends are around so the probability of isolating her out of it is pretty low. Jep, don’t get her. Done.

Do 2 more street sets that lead to nowhere. Call it a night.

Conclusion:
-still don’t really get it what is off here between me and the Scandinavian culture


Alright, that’s it for the week. Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-~
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 Your monday report was really amazing! You offer great value in your reports in general.

By physical screening you mean testing for compliance right? Like first hand holding, then hugging, then go for the kiss, or something similar.

In any chance, are you heading to cyprus too?
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@ventidue
cool that you get plenty of value out of it!
no, by physical screening I mean just screening if she's down to make out or not. everything else doesn't mean anything. if she eg says she has a BF and holds your hand you cannot tell if she's down to fuck or not. only a makeout is a big enough commitment to consider it. if she's not down for the makeout (after several attempts) in isolation in the club I better focus on another girl because the probabilty is pretty low for the close. the normal "escalation ladder" of handshake, shoulder, hugging, kissing, etc. is just for guys that don't trust in themselves that they can pull the girl anyway (as long as the logistics fit) and need validation and permission from the girl step by step. I just assume the pull in normal situations. this fucking works. however, as I wrote in the disclaimer last week due to certain circumstances it can be better to get the commitment from the girl upfront (makeout) even though if you increase the possibility of resistence later when you pull her or in the bed. hope this was understandable... wink

never thought about Cyprus... do you live there? how do the girls look like?

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 I did understand what you mean. Lately I have a experienced a few girls having no problem being physical with me hand holding, huggs etc, I spent like 20-30 min with them on that and then I try to go for the kiss and its a no-go. But I am thinking that here in Italy thats how it is with Italian girls.

I am from Cyprus, will be going back next week. There is a great party location called Ayia Napa. Bascially, its near the beach and you can party until 8 a.m. and restart the day partying at the beach. It attracts a lot of british girls etc. The nightlife is definetely amazing and the weather is hot (gets 42-43 degrees in the summer). Its really easy to find dtf girls.

This is a famous after-party club:




This is just the main street with all the bars etc



You can find parties where Cypriot girls hangout but they are way more posh and a challenge I think. Personally, I think the foreign side party is more fun.

I bet you can have at least one lay everyday here, cause of your level haha
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I'm not really into British girls and had enough drunken party trips this year already...
mabye next year wink
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*Week 70 (15.07. – 21.07) – Pull From Sausage Stand

I’m back in Vienna. Sun is shining. Girls I already fucked some time ago are hitting me up to meet up. Somehow I made a decision. A decision to just meet up with girls I really want to meet up with. I had enough ego validation over the last couple of months where I fucked 14 new girls in 19 weeks. I don’t need to fuck 5 or more girls every week if it’s mostly for ego validation. There’s not really a point in repeatedly fucking plenty of average and sometimes below-average girls again and again if I don’t really connect with them and like to spend time with them. It’s better to use my time wisely for other, more important stuff as reading, sports, etc. However, when the quality is going up I have to rethink that one of course…

Writing the FR is somehow a pain in the ass because it takes too much time. On the other side I want to document my progress. Conclusion for me is to cut it even more down and just write about significant sets of the night. Will start this next week.


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Monday FB:
Primary FB
After I caught my fungal infection from her I switched to condoms because the ramifications to my lifestyle were significant (almost not having sex for a couple of weeks). Of course I get shit about it from her. I’m not used to that kind of shit and get out of balance a little but in the end handle it. Done.

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Tuesday:
Head out with Feelgood to Technocafe. Later F4bulous joins. It’s the first time this season. It’s outdoor and superchill. Perfect circumstances for guys who run solid game since the girls are not distracted by a dancefloor or overly drunk friends that drag her away. People are there to chill.

We agree on the fact that we would just do sets where both girls are hot. Biggest problem is that Feelgood and I have a different taste as well as he’s much more inclined to approach every girl he finds attractive without thinking about our “agreement”. We end up in a couple of sets where I’m not really that attracted to the girl but wing him. This is frustrating because there are plenty of hotties there. Also we got a problem in switching girls during the set. Plenty of room for improvement in this department…

However, get the number of a cute blonde one who is really into me but has an interview in the morning next day. She even lets her friend go away for 2 times just to talk to me. Later, while winging Feelgood, after not getting the number for 2 times get Facebook of a cute brunette one. She’s quite responsive via Facebook but lives out of town… Lets see…

There were a few other sets not worth to be mentioned. It’s already after 2am when we call it a night and get out of the venue. Time for something to eat. Jokingly cut the line on 2 cute girls. One is immediately into me. After she pays my food I lead them to a nearby bench. At this time I already have a pretty clear image of fucking her later. Assuming deluxe! Good vibing. Screen for the other girl too because she’s hotter. She’s kind of single now since 2 days. Hm… Think about going for a threesome. The brunette one encourages the other one to continue to party. She’s resistant and finally just gets onto her nightbus. I think she wasn’t down for a threesome so better this way.

The rest is straightforward. Just walk with the brunette one directly to my apartment. A glass of wine on the balcony. Then I just make out with her. No questions asked. She even opens her dress immediately after I make out with her. Fuck her on the bed and then on the balcony. Done.

BANGTOWN VIENNA!!!!

Good talking about fuck buddy relationsships. Then it’s time to throw her out of my flat. Done.

Conclusion:
-didn’t utilize the potential that was there. this pisses me off a little bit
-nice pull from the sausage stand. unfortunately after getting rid of the cloths I had to recognize that it was another Hamburg-shaped girl. Damnit, they are pretty good in hiding it behind their cloths

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Wednesday FB:
Salzburg FB

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Thursdsay:
Head out with Especial to our fav. bar. It’s fucking empty because it’s still pretty warm outside. We talk about our last developments. Then I see a 2set entering the bar. One girl is a hot brunette. I go in. Lately it’s more like one shot one kill. They’re both into me. Especial joins. Screen and find out that my girl has a BF. She’s not happy in her relationship but it looks like she’s too stifled. We eject and already left the bar when we have the idea to at least bring them with us because maybe other venues would be empty too. Go in again, I reopen. Some more vibing. Go for the pull to the next club. Nogo. I don’t persist since the probability is pretty low for a close. Done.

We head over to Platzhirsch. Back in the day the best location on Thursdays. I’m questioning this now, as well as several wings of mine that also don’t like it now anymore. Chill a little with Especial at the bar. Then it’s time for a set. 2 girls standing at the bar. Go in. No reaction. I’m not new to this shit, keep my frame but not even a handshake. Same with the second set. WTF!? Back in the day I would’ve thought that it’s absolutely my fault and I did something wrong but now I’m in a complete different headspace. I KNOW that I’m a well calibrated social and cool guy that gets laid all the time. These girls are just fucking socially retarted…

Time for some more chilling. After that 1-2 sets where we loose the girls after some minutes because of “I don’t remember anymore”. After that a hot blonde in a 3set. She’s into it but has a BF. Damnit. Then a cute blonde in a 2set. I remember her somehow. They’re already leaving. Obviously too short to get her number.

Conclusion:
-LOL

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Friday:
After our fav. bar is empty I head out with Especial and Zonk to Volksgarten where we meet up with Feelgood and Terminator. Time to chill in the outside area.

Among sets that are not worth to be mentioned open a 2set with Feelgood. My blonde one is from Russia. Nice. Good vibing. Feelgood isolates his girl away. Find out that my girl is just here for vacation. I lose some interest and I’m thinking about if I should stick to it or just find another girl. Get her number. We head to the dancefloor. Guess she picks up my indecisiveness because after that she behaves a little strange and finally excuses herself to the bathroom and tells me that I should stay there. I try something new: stick to her to see what happens. So I say that I have to go to the bathroom also. She’s walking fucking fast not even looking back to me…??? Anyway, half way through I bump into another pickup guy. Already saw him a couple of times but never really talked with him. He engages me. Wants to get coached by me! He even wants to pay me. Strange stuff. Let’s see what happens… Anyway, bump into my girl a couple of minutes later. She’s even stranger. Whatever…

Next interesting set is with a girl that walks by while I talk to the boys. I’m thinking if I should open her because she’s not that hot by comparison to the other girls there but somehow open her reflexively by accident. Good vibing. She tells me that she had a date today that was a disaster. She met up with a colleague of her. At the end of the date he told her that he has a GF and if he can kiss her. She just says that he could have fucked her. But now nogo. LOL. Head over to the dancefloor because she wants to dance. I see this as an opportunity to get her away from her friends that are just sitting nearby. After some minutes I lead her over to the chillout area with couches. Good vibing. Get her number. Then she has to go to the bathroom. Join her (it’s like everything is happening twice this night). After that lose her. Text her one time if she got lost in the bathroom. No reply. Whatever. Cannot remember what I did over the next couple of minutes but later Zonk sees her again. Since it’s already pretty late I go in again. She’s standing there with 3 dudes who turn out to be her colleagues. Go for food extraction. Nogo, she tells me that she is driving home with the guys by car. Guess I persisted for one more time. Nogo. She tells me that I have her number and should contact her. Screen for next week and agree to meet up with her on Tuesday. Let’s see if this will work. Have a strange feeling.

We leave the club.

Conclusion:
- I wouldn’t wonder if she got gangbanged by the dudes in the end of the night because she already was attuned to fuck her date… Let’s see if she comes along on Tuesday.
-again a set where the girls didn’t react at all. Whatever, their loss. However, this happened in 2 of the hardest venues in town so it’s not really a big deal. Good thing is that I already had a pretty good gut feeling of what would happen

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Saturday:
Alright, head out with Zonk, Especial, F4bulous and Steve to a new location. As expected its pretty empty so we leave after 5min. It’s currently pretty hot in Vienna so almost all clubs are pretty empty. Will try it again in autumn. Chill some time at Karlsplatz. Steve opens a set and I join him after some time. Cute girls, but after a couple of minutes I find out that my girl has a BF so its time to eject.

We head over to Volksgarten. Perfect weather! Chill a little at the outside bar. See 2 cute brunette girls standing near us. Open them. Good vibing. Steven joins. My girl is supercute and into it. Just moved to Vienna 2 weeks ago. Steve tells me that she has a BF. Noooooo. Screen for myself. Yes, she has. Damnit. Somehow I find it hard to just eject. Definitely a sticking point of mine…

More chilling before I open a 2set. Like on Thursday the girls don’t react at all. Fully staring away. Persist a little but still nogo. They are socially retarted, their loss. There are some shorter sets not worth to be mentioned. Overall, even though the club was fucking full I didn’t really see “good” sets. The quality is definitely lower on Saturdays than on Fridays. As I’m writing this I’m aware that in a club of this size there have to be enough girls that would fit but I’m not motivated for dancefloor game inside.

After we leave the club the brunette cutie from Tuesday starts to hit me up via Facebook. She wanted to meet up with me on Sunday but I’ve already scheduled a FB… Go for afterparty but find out that she’s not in town right now. Whatever…

Conclusion:
- It’s interesting that based on my experience my predictions of how a set will open is pretty accurate. I’m aware of the concept of self fulfilling prophecies but I’m very sure to not sabotage my approach by my gut feeling before. Especially in sets where I have the feeling that they act super bitchy I’m still going to reframe it a couple of times for the reference but still nogo…

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Sunday FB:
Chemistry FB
Didn’t see her for quite some time. Amazing sex.


Alright, that’s it for the week. Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-~
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barcelona23

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Amazing journal man!


Keep it coming!

I see you like trance music, found this video of Above and Beyond today, FUCKING GOOSEBUMPS

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It requires you to MAN DOWN.
Connotatively, the words MAN DOWN might seem negative, but that’s the idea. Instead of searching externally for something to confirm your-self image as a man, instead look internally at what you are and come into alignment with it. " 

" YOU are the one up on the pedestal, showing the girl a good time"
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dude, whats your salary? u livee pretty fuken well
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@barcelona23
thx mate! love Above and Beyond!

@thafunky
haha, it's pretty good. like I wrote some time ago build knowledge in an area where you can build your own business and you're good to go. I recommend consulting and stuff where you do not have to be on site all the time
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Week 71 (22.07. – 28.07.) – Fuzzy Big New Sticking Point

What I recognized lately is that I go more and more for “one shot one kill” sets. On one hand this is a sign for me assuming hardcore. However, on the other side it means that I lose other opportunities at least for a number earlier in the night. It’s also interesting that I didn’t follow up in my well-known hardcore manner but instead don’t contact girls anymore that behave stupid.

It’s hard for me to express it when I like a girl. I almost always say that she’s cute. If they ask me why they are cute I don’t really have anything to come up with. Have to work on giving genuine compliments!

It’s 06:28 in the morning as I’m writing this paragraph. Something is “off” over the last couple of weeks. I feel several forces pulling in different directions and have a fog of thoughts circling through my head. I cannot clearly say what is happening but I just realized that I have a new big fuzzy sticking point. But let’s start at the beginning… I “transcended” the ego validation of fucking lots of girls every week I don’t really enjoy spending time with. Cutted down the girls I regularely meet up with recently. I want to go for the hottest girls and not waste my time with tons of average girls. I know and feel that I’m enough. I feel entitled to the hottest girls now. I approach and treat them the same way as average looking girls. I can see them getting attracted BUT there’s almost always something happening that I end up NOT FUCKING THEM. Sometimes it’s me being blatantly stupid not utilizing opportunities. Fair enough, that happens from time to time. But most of the times it’s either a BF or other fucked up logistics. It seems that hot girls have fucked up logistics more often. Fucked up logistics at least lead to a number. A solid number it seems at the beginning. However, the numbers that convert to a day2 are near zero. If I’m able to pull a girl the same night (SNL) chances are pretty good though. BUT if I have to go via day2 it’s fucked up because the day2s are not taking place most of the time. Why the fuck do I lose the girls there? It’s frustrating. I don’t get it: If I’m feeling like deserving the hottest girls and behaving the same as to an average girl and they’re behaving the same as average girls (meaning getting attracted) WHY THE FUCK DO I NOT END UP FUCKING THEM (almost always fucked up logistics and the day2s do not take place)? This brings me some frustration which chokes my intent lately. I don’t fully persist in sets anymore with average girls as well as I don’t approach sets that look like they’re not going to open. Is my assessment right? Yes, based on my vast experience most of the time it is. Do I lose girls that I would be able to fuck if I just would try anyway? YES! I’m caught in a loop of ego protection. Phrases like “she’s not worth it to persist one more time”, “her loss”, “how would it look to wings if I would approach a set I’m pretty sure is not going to open and then it actually wouldn’t open. This is tupid, I should know better and not risk my reputation” or “she’s too stupid to see my value” pop into my head more and more often. This slows me and my progress down. I think the general feeling is that “I already crawled through the fucking mud” long enough and gathered experiences to pretty accurately tell if a set “is worth” to be opened. This is a pattern I recognized in most of the advanced dudes I got to know. They chill most of the time. But if they see a set that probably will go well they open and kill it “one shot one kill” because they trust their faculties. They don’t need “warmup sets” to get into “state”. Hell, state is something a person that is not enough needs to feel good enough to be able to talk to girls without feeling like he’s a creep. IMO this is the complete opposite of being enough. If you’re enough you assume that you attract girls all the time and can fuck them. It’s funny because I’ve seen Julien in person. He’s chilling most of the time in set letting the girls chase him. No high energy shit as on Hot Seat most of the time. That’s just some spice to the conversation for his self amusment. Since I’m going on vacation for 4 weeks next week now I also not really follow up on numbers.

Another thought is that there is a discrepancy between my perception of myself and the results I get. I know that I’m cool, positive, chill and that a girl is better off being with me than not being with me. Once I fucked a girl they are like bees around the honeypot. I have plenty of reference experiences for that. It’s frustrating that girls are too stupid to see the value and prefer to stand around BORED AS FUCK with their friends instead of talking to me… Stupid…

Whatever, maybe my perception of all of this is too negative now. That’s just my current “state” I’m in. At least concerning the taking action part it is pretty probable that I will take more action as soon as I have the time to follow up again (after vacation). Lets hope that my longer vacation and the Summit next week will bring me new ideas and drive. Otherwise I know that I would develop the willpower to push through it on my own anyway. Nice feeling that my willpower will always kick in sooner or later.

Next week I’m heading over to the US and A for a 4 week Westcoast Trip. Included will be the RSD World Summit. Yes guys, Mountaineer is going to be part of that crazy thing called Summit. I’m looking forward to meet cool guys and experience crazy adventures. Hopefully it doesn’t end up like the Sunday night in Helsinki where weird pickup dudes where all over the place creeping the girls out. One thing I know for sure: it will be a shitload of awesome new reference experiences!

Installed Whatsapp this week since it was free again. I never really saw an advantage in this. After Alex- recommended Whatsapp several times because he says it’s pretty easy to follow up on girls with pictures and I’m going abroad for a month it’s time to give this app a shot to stay in contact with girls. First experiements go pretty good. It’s pretty easy to warm up a girl I’ve fucked in February in Innsbruck and had a hard time staying in contact with her via regular texts. I’m also using FB more to send pictures and stuff. I’m pretty optimistic to get more results with less work out of it. But let’s see what happens over the next couple of weeks.


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Monday FB:
Primary FB

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Tuesday:
Head out to Technocafe with Feelgood and Steven I think. The memories are very fuzzy because I didn’t take notes. As far as I remember only one set worth to be mentioned. 2 set of Spanish girls. Feelgood and I approach simultaneously by pushing each other away. haha. Good vibing with my girl. Nice. Suddenly her friend tells her that someone is over there. She runs off. WTF? Didn’t even screen for BF yet. Later I see her again. Go back in. It’s a little strange. They’re already about to leave. Go for number. She gives me her number but tells me that she has a BF. Shit.

Conclusion:
-this set was strange because first there was good vibing and before I was able to screen she just ran off. guess I cannot really optimize this

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Wednesday FB:
Hungarian FB
She’s visiting me for a day from Hungary

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Thursday FB:
Chemistry FB
Head over to her parents house since they’re out of town. Really enjoyed this evening where she cooked for me and I fucked her 3 times. Fucked the shit out of her like never before. She had to crawl on the floor after I fucked her. That’s how it should be haha.

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Thursday:
Alright, I get home from my FB at 01:30 am. I’m thinking about calling it a night since it’s Thursday BUT on the way back to my flat I’m already texting with Feelgood and Especial back and forth. Especial is motivated so we decide to head out at 2 am.

Time for a small pitstop in our fav. bar. I need something to drink. One big Soda (=mineral water) please! There is just one set in the whole venue. 2 girls and a guy. Don’t see if the guy has approached them or not. Go in. Get some shit at the beginning but plow through. Get shit from her all the time. Especial stands right next to me and listens to my convo haha.

Turns out that her friend got approached by the dude. It looks pretty good for them and after some time they want to leave. However, somehow we’re talking about drinking Soda and my girl gives me a hint to drink one more round suggesting that I pay it. The thought of “I don’t buy girls a drink” pops into my mind. But this would be stupid at that point because her friend already wants to leave and she presents me the excuse for her to stay. Conclusion is of course to buy her a Gspritzter (pretty cheap). I buy the whole round for me (Gspritzer + a glass of Soda), Especial and her so its not really buying her a drink. The lights are already on which means that the bar is closing soon. Her friend is still waiting with the dude. Damnit.

Get her number. We leave the bar togheter. Turns out that she has to go in the same direction as Especial and me. We say bye to her friend and the dude which are getting into separate Taxis... Head along Mariahilferstrasse. I get shit after shit. Doesn’t react at all. It’s strange since I normally don’t get shit like this anymore AT ALL. On the way I initiate a “I’m hungry” plotline. But it’s too late I guess. Go for the pull to my flat. Nogo. As I’m writing this I know that I could’ve persisted and reframed it more.

Conclusion:
-Solid. One shot, one almost kill

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Friday:
Head out to Volksgarten with Especial, Steve and Feelgood. Set that is worth to be mentioned is a cute 2 set which I approach together with Feelgood. Good vibing with my girl. She’s single. Lead her away from her friend after a couple of minutes to sit down. No one interrupts us. Find out she’s from out of town and sleeping at a friends place. Shit. I screen if she’s down for some adventure and ask her what would happen if she would just “disappear”. Nogo. Fair enough. Get her number.

Conclusion:
-good that I screened early and found out her bad logistics and then screened for her adventurousness

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Saturday:
Alright, we don’t want to go to Volksgarten again since, even though it’s going better than in the past, it’s still a tough place and I’m not getting the results I get in other locations. Our fav. bar is probably empty as fuck since it’s very hot these days. We go for new locations. First head to VCBC. The people there are the lower end of the social pyramide. We chill there a little and see the probably most boring hen party ever: Over the course of 20min no single person of the 10 girls laughed. WTF is going wrong here.

Whatever, I open a “normal” looking 2set. The vibing is not as good as normally but “good enough”. Turns out my hot girl has a BF. They are there with other friends. We tell them that they should introduce us to them. When we get closer I see that their single friends are not hot. We eject. This place is fucked up. We leave.

Try another location we haven’t been to. Fluc. Turns out I know a bouncer. He gives me some vouchers for drinks. Nice. Unfortunately the club is 1. from 16 and 2. empty. Since we have the vouchers we get a Soda and chill a little on the terrace. Feelgood joines us. I see one cute 2 set sitting near us. Especial opens and I join. The girls are cute at first but have a little strange vibe because they’re testing me pretty hard. After Thursday this happens again!? Of course I don’t give a fuck and continue to plow. After I finish a story I find hilarious they say something like “you’re not a very good storyteller”. After I make fun of how they told me a stupid story a couple of minutes ago by imitating her stupid story they get mad and leave. Low self esteem girls. Probably because they’re just 18/19. Whatever, their bad.

Bump into a that approached me some months ago in Gbar when Zonk and I already pulled 2 girls over from our fav. bar and were about to pull them home. She tried to tongue me down a couple of times. I just moved my head to the side. Now she starts to engage again. I know that I can fuck her but I’m not interested in her so I don’t engage. Shortly later she leaves.

Conclusion:
-maybe should calibrate more to young low self esteem girls OR JUST FUCK IT haha

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Sunday:
I’m not motivated to meet up with a FB so I don’t schedule it. Chill with Zonk on the balcony and text with a girl I approached last week back and forth. Always got her to come over from out of town even though it’s 11 pm on Sunday. Nice.


Alright, that’s it for the week. Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-~
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