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[proVIE] Mountaineer From Vienna: From Intermediate Purgatory To Advanced Stealth Awesomeness
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***Week 48 (18.02. – 24.02.) – First German Lay in Austria, First 2 Innsbruck Pulls

Mountaineer-~ here, sending a “Servus” from the trainride back from Innsbruck to Vienna!

This was another fucking awesome week. A week of adventures… Visited Alex- in Innsbruck once again. When the 2 of us get together there’s always just one thing that is going to happen: massive action with massive self amusement. The results take care of themselves.

Fucked my first German girl in Austria this week. It was on the FIRST day2 and she is fucking hot! The German curse is DONE! Also pulled my first 2 girls in Innsbruck this week. One of them had a BF. This is a good reference experience to never take anything too seriously! These were both quick pulls in under 2 hours to get back into the club to go for a 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 lay with Alex- and/or Zonk. Therefore a total of 3 new lays this week. FUCK YEAH!

The 2 on 2 pull with Alex- is right in front of us. Fucked up a couple of pulls this week loosing girls 50 meters in front of his flat or even weren’t able to fuck them after they were already in the flat. In total we got 10 girls back to his flat in 5 days.

Also very good discussions with Alex- about different topics such as chemistry and the horniness curve.

Alright, let’s crack into this week!

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Monday Day2:
Alright, meet up with a german brunette I approached on Saturday at Grelle Forelle. She was pretty into me texting stuff like “I like you. Normally I don’t like to get approached”. Yeah, because I’m enough haha. It was very dark in Grelle Forelle so I didn’t really see her face very clear so I’m thinking about if maybe she isn’t that attractive.

She’s 10min late without informing me about it in the first place. Of course I’m not going to wait for her but instead go to some other place and text her that she should come there too. She’s coming directly from work (event organization for an international hotel) and is wearing high heels and a tight dress. Fuck yeah, this girl is smoking hot.

As always we first head over for some billard. She’s pretty stifled. Recognize a sticking point. While playing billard I tend to talk less and less up to the point of talking nothing. That’s not good. Fortunately I catch myself doing it and take action against it. Over time she starts to open up. Good stuff!

Then we head over to Gbar. She sits down directly next to me. Good vibing. Let her talk and just chill back with a few physical expressions of intent. Since she’s German and I fucked up the last German girl by “rushing” it (even though 1 month is not really rushing… whatever…) I wait till 11pm and didn’t go for the pull yet. I Just talk about stuff we will do sometime at my place… Then she mentions that she has to get home soon because it’s already pretty late. Fuck! Back in the day I would’ve been done at this point. But now I just ask her how many hours of sleep she needs. 5. Find out the real reason: she has to get the last metro. Fair enough. I take all the responsibility and tell her that she’s going to catch her last metro (even if it’s getting too late the worst case would be to pay for the taxi after I fucked her… haha).

Alright, we head over to my place. Open a bottle of wine. She suggested it. Do it for the first time on a day2. Fucking good idea. Will do this more often. Good vibing. I’m still chilled as fuck and not physical. Show her the other rooms of my flat. Grab her hands, pull her in. She leans towards me. Makeout.

From this point on everything is straight forward. No LMR at all. BANGTOWN VIENNA!

Conclusion:
-FUCK YEAH. Finally fucked a German girl in Austria. And this is not an average one but smoking hot
-She was very stifled at the beginning but still layed her on the first day2 – very good reference experience!
-Again: Patience is the fasted way to getting laid!
-Guess this reference experience is going to be a tipping point not only concerning German girls… But we will see what the future brings…

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Tuesday (Innsbruck):
Head over to Innsbruck to visit Alex-. This is going to be a longer visit (Tue – Sun). I’m really looking forward to it because when the 2 of us come together shit is going fucking down!

I arrive a little bit after midnight in Innsbruck. After getting rid of my luggage we immediately head out to Segabar. It’s pretty empty. Only one hot blonde 2set. Go in smooth. Goes pretty well, guess I could make something happen if I stick to it. But her friend has a BF so it’s no option because we’re looking for a 2 on 2 pull.

Since there’s nothing else going on there we head over to Stadtcafe. Almost same over there. Just one really hot 2 set we can see on the dancefloor in the first place. I open them. They are from Italy and fucking hot! Some good vibing. We eject to check out the rest of the venue. In the meantime guys are hitting on them all the time. It’s fucking pathetic! Since we don’t find any other hot 2set we get back to the dancelfoor. Alex- and I are making fun of the chodes that are trying to impress them. Later we reopen. Good vibing. Lead them, away from the chode chrystal that is standing around them, to the bar. Drink one shot (whatever, Alex- pays haha). Find out that mine has a BF. Shit, react to it. I’m not reacting emotionally but on a logical level. Meaning that I say to myself “fair enough, we have to find another set”. We eject. Stupid since there are no other hot sets there. Later we reopen and go for the pull to a kebab stand. Strangely my girl (with the BF) is down now but the other one isn’t because she wants to get a drink from some random chode. PATHETIC! Guess we fucked up a pull based on our stupid behavior!

Conclusion:
-fucking good reference experience that we stayed relaxed and cool even though we dealt with massive SCARCITY (just one hot 2set in the venue). Fucked the pull up mainly because of our stupidity…

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Wednesday (Innsbruck):
Head out with Alex- at 22:30 for some action to Segabar. It’s fucking empty. We drink one drink (mineral water in my case of course haha) and head back home. After a good hour of sleep back to the bar. It’s pretty full now.

Open a cute 2set. Starts off pretty good both girls are comfortable. But my girl behaves a little strange after some time. Then Alex- is just touching her shoulder and she reacts totally weird. A few minutes later they just go home. WTF…

Alright, do 2-3 other sets that all go nowhere. LITERALLY! Somehow I can feel a very strange vibe in this bar (which is pretty small)… Almost no one is having fun. Recognize that in small venues there is a general vibe in the venue because almost everyone can ping off everyone else. We call it a night.

Afterwards Alex- cooks a disgustelicious roast chicken. Fucking awesome! Then good discussion about different topics. Especially about that you have different hornynesslevels with different girls. Some get you a boner all the time and other it’s harder to get one. And this has nothing to do with the general hotness level of the girl. Guess it’s what we call chemistry…

Conclusion:
-very weird evening. this was the first night since a couple of month that nothing hooked at all (even the one 2set we did together weirded theirself out after some time…). WTF
-however, the discussion with Alex- afterwards that was based on this “negative” experience was 10 times more valuable than a 2 on 2 pull because the 2 on 2 pull will happen anyway in the near future

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Thursday (Innsbruck):
Alright, this is the big night out in Innsbruck. Stadtcafe times! Pick up Zonk from the train station and off we go to Segabar. Fills up quickly.

After some chillout time I open a hot brunette that is walking by. She’s from Salzburg. It’s a little strange because the convo is going in the direction it went back in my “weird game times”. It’s like building up negative tension. Don’t like that anymore. Somehow I didn’t like it back in the day either but it was the only “approach” I had to do it…

It’s time for a “moment of realness”. Get it back to normal but then the “natural tendency” of this set is back to this weird thing. WTF… don’t get it. Then Zonk enteres the 1 on 1 constellation… WTF!? Since my girl has to catch her train and there is not much time left I get rid of him (tell him gently to eject haha)… Somehow I don’t really know what to do. A makeout is pointless… Then she has to leave. I just get her number. She’s responsive but let’s see if this is going somewhere. Very strange set. It’s interesting that even in such a situation where I have the feeling that it went bad getting the number is still a no-brainer. Guess when I manage it to meet up with her someday I will lay her… Whatever…

Afterwards join a 4-5set of Swiss girls where Alex- and Zonk are already in. Fat asses everywhere. After some time I open another 5set of really hot girls (I would immediately fuck everyone of those 5 girls). They are planning to head over to Stadtcafe too. Plan is to pull them to our place for a short pitstop and if possible never go back out to the streets. Same thing is going on with the Swiss set where Alex- is initiating the headover to Stadtcafe.

Alright, time to leave Segabar. We go through the doorframe simultaneously with 10girls. FUCK YEAH! However, I’m not in front of the group so this means that I’m not able to lead the whole group. The other girls are already ahead and I don’t manage it to stop them all. Then I see that the Swiss girls are pretty leadable so I join this set. Head with them back to Alex-‘ place. The boys are in front and just go into the staircase without making sure that the girls are also following them. I recognize this fact and get them into the staircase. Otherwise they would’ve just waited in front of the house. Uncle Mountaineer is taking care! So, we pull them back to Alex-‘ flat. But it’s pointless since, at least I, don’t want to fuck them because I know what kind of quality there’s still waiting in Stadtcafe. However, it was good practice to get more and more comfortable to just pull girls back to our place. FAIR ENOUGH!

After a few minutes we leave the flat again and head over to Stadtcafe. I open a 3set. Very cute brunette. She’s into it but her friends are from out of town and she’s going to bring them to the train station or some shit so I go for the number. BF???? WTF…

Open another 3set. My girl is into me immediately. Drags me to the bar and buys me a drink. It’s fucking on. Text Alex- that I’m going to pull her fast and get back for the 3 on 3 pull haha. Initiate “drinking wine plotline” back at Alex-‘s place. She’s down. Then her friend comes in and is pretty pissed at me. Loose them. I’m a little pissed. Somehow if the pull is already an almost done deal it hurts the ego if a friend suddenly comes in and is really pissed at you. I’m indecisive between finding them again and make it happen and just letting go and finding another set.

In the meantime I go back into the hot 5set we already know from Segabar but weren’t able to pull back to the flat. They’re pretty down. The other girl which was DTF is still in my head. Then see my girl again on the dancefoor. Talk with Alex- what will be the best thing to get rid of her friend and pull her. We’re a little indecisive. She sees me and comes over. Even better. Tell her that she should tell her friend that we’re going to the bar. Done! Lead her out of the club and back to Alex-‘s place. Everything straight forward. BANGTOWN VIENNA (INNSBRUCK)!

Fuck her and back to Stadtcafe. Unfortunately a FB of Alex- is in the 5set now too. She knows some of the girls. It’s not possible to pull 3 on 3 now. Fuck. The only option is to head over to another club. So Alex- puts his girl into a taxi.

Check out 2 other clubs that both are already closed. We call it a night!

Conclusion:
-guess this was my first pull in Innsbruck! Fuck yeah!
-persisted through the bitchy friend of my girl and persisted for the pull: finding a solution no mater what!
-this pull was also pretty fast. Guess I was in set for 1-1,5 hours in total

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Friday (Innsbruck):
Head out with Alex- and Zonk to Segabar. Open a younger 3set (2 supercute girls and one a little bigger girl). They’re engaging from the get to, leaning in, etc. Then the boys join in. A group of chodes tries to amog me. Stupid kids. I just ignore them. After some time they go away haha

Isolate my blonde from the group. I really don’t know why I do it but I go for the makeout. Maybe it’s because I’m in isolation… In the group constellation I would never do it (because it’s also not necessary)… Don’t get it. Fair enough! I hope that I didn’t blow the whole 3set now… Somehow it was stupid to do it…

At first they want to head over to another bar but then tell us that they need to catch ther nightbusses…? Anyway, we initiate the afterparty plotline. One of the 3 has to get up early for work (the bigger blonde one). Alright, I know that this is going be be some work to get 3 girls on track to come back to our place. Suddenly the bigger girl starts to talk to a bartender and doesn’t want to join anymore. WTF!? Finally the other 2 are down to come over. Whatever, pull them back to Alex-‘ flat. Problem is now that we’re on 3 on 2. Somehow one of the boys has to eject. Since I opened the set it’s not going to be me haha. Zonk ejects and heads over to Stadtcafe.

I semi-isolate my girl on the couch. Use any excuse to get closer to her. Otherwise nothing is going to happen… Then we’re already lying next to each other on the couch. She’s comfortable. Go for the makeout. Nogo. WTF. Guess this night it’s not going down since Alex- is also not really making any progress with his girl. It’s time to throw them out of the flat. Since we promised to bring them to the train station afterwards we lead them there.

Then it’s time to get back on the road. Head over to Stadtcafe. When we arrive we immediately number close a smoking hot twin set from Germany. While Alex- does all the work I just say “Hey, I’m mountaineer. <silence for 2min>. Give me your number”. Get it haha. Guess this is going to be my new method from now on. ASSUMING EVERYTHING!

The venue is already pretty empty. See one hot 4set. Open. My girl is pretty talkative but the other girls are reserved as fuck. They even don’t shake hands. WTF is this. Alright, it’s not worth it to plow through here so I eject.

See a cute sitting 3set. 1 girl gets up. Go in immediately. My girl is into it and engaging. Sit down next to them. Then the third girl comes back. Now I sit in between 3 girls. Alex- joins in and sits down next to me. Good vibing. I see Zonk swirling around without a plan and not approaching the third girl which turned out to be the bday kid. WTF!? Then she ejects to the dancefloor or something. I text Zonk that he should approach her when she gets back. Alright, then a forth girl joins in. Obviously it’s not a 3 but a 4set. Manage it that Zonk sits down on her lap. I’m such a pimp haha.

Turns out that my girl has a BF, but later also tells me that she hates monogamy. Also the girls want to move on to some other venue. WTF… NO! I know that because of the fact that she has a BF she’s probably going to get social pressure from her friends if she is going back to the flat with me so I get her number and tell her that she should say that she’s going home. She’s a little hesitant. We leave the venue altogether to head over to another club. I force the “tell your friends you’re going home now” frame on her till she finally tells her friends that she is going home. 2minutes later I also eject from the group “to get some cash from the ATM”. Call her. She’s waiting just around the corner. Alright, head back to the Alex-‘ flat and the rest is going straight forward. No, actually not. She gives me kindergarten shit tests like “I have the period”. Somehow I don’t really recognize them anymore since I pushed through plenty of times before. I just “know” that in the end they’re going to get fucked so I just continue. BANGTOWN VIENNA (INNSBRUCK)!

Afterwards I’m about to head out again to join the boys. Since the other club is already about to close I stay in the flat. Both girls are DTF. However, Alex- cannot pull to his place because I’m there and Zonk fucks up his pull because of too less intent. Hope the pain helps you to develop more intent in the future ;-)

Conclusion:
-this is how it should be done. pull girls home, if you don’t get laid head out again and pull another girl which you fuck. it’s a fucking adventure every night we go out. FUCK YEAH!
-good reference experience to persist through/find a solution for “I have a bf”, “her friends could judge them”, etc.
-finally I fucked a girl with a BF. somehow it was always a nogo for me to pull a girl with a BF. but they do it anyway. why the fuck it shouldn’t be me they’re getting laid with…
-this is going to blow my pimp ego up more and more. I pimped the whole interaction. good thing is that I’m aware of it!

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Saturday (Innsbruck):
In the afternoon we’re going on a free guided tour through Innsbruck. Interesting stuff. Not that I need it anymore but you always get plenty of stuff you can vomit about from such guided tours or museums. Anyway, there is a 3-4set in the tour also. At first I don’t do anything because I’m on the tour to hear something about the city. Then I “cannot hold myself back” (interesting huh?) and approach them. They’re pretty down. Unfortunately it’s fucking cold this day and after a few minutes they just eject from the tour. First thing that pops into my mind is “always leave when the girls are leaving” but I want to continue with the tour so fuck it. It’s such a good feeling to “know” that if you would have just spended the time with them and have time to follow up (live in the city) it’s just a matter of time…

We’re so fucked up that after dinner we go for a sleep to 23:30. Since Zonk seems to get ill he stays at home and I head out with Alex- alone to Segabar. It’s a queue in front of it. 2 girls that are standing right in front of us cannot get into because one has forgotten her ID. After they turn around and are about to walk away I immediately go after them. They are pretty cute. Play to win! They’re about to go to another bar. We try to get them with us to Stadtcafe and in the best case back to Alex-‘ flat before. Nogo, they grab a taxi to Stadtcafe. We just know them for like 2min. Fair enough! We’ll see them later anyway…

Alright, enter Segabar. It’s packet full. Chodes everywhere haha. Bump into a supercute 2set from Wednesday. They’re here with some chode classmates. Loose them after a few minutes. They bathroom us. Noooooo. Probably because Alex- is not enough haha.

Since it’s already after midnight we decide to head over to Stadtcafe. Sooo nice. It’s packed full and full of stunning hot girls. FUCK YEAH!

Open a smoking hot brunette which is one head taller than I am. Interesting experience since I didn’t open that tall girls for quite some time. Back in the day I had the feeling that I have to convey that I’m fucking awesome even though I’m not as tall as her. But now that I’m enough I don’t feel this urge anymore. Just go in fucking smooth. She’s into it right from the get go. It’s a 2set. The other girl is also tall. So both are taller than Alex- and I am. However, the other girl is already engaged with another chode dude who buys her drinks. I’m a little indecisive because on one head we’re definitely here to find a hot 2set for the both of us that we can pull 2 on 2 and on the other hand this tall brunette right in front of me is smoking hot and I want to fuck her of course haha. Good thing though is that the 2set we openend in front of Segabar is right next to them. So I tell Alex- that he should engage the other 2set and we will see how both sets turn out. Then we decide to which set we stick.

After some time I switch over to Alex-‘ set and recognize that my girl in this set is not hot enough haha. Switch back to my set. I find out that my girl has a BF. However, based on the reference experience from the night before where I pulled a girl with a BF I’m not that reactive to that kind of information anymore. Screen for logistics. He’s in Italy for a few days. She’s not explicitely saying that there’s no way shit is going down. Guess the chance of shit going down is not that low. Normally I would stick to it since this girl is fucking hot. However, it’s not good enough to risk a night with Alex- for a 2 on 2 pull. So I finally eject and head over to his set again. After some minute I just tell Alex- that I find that these 2 girls are not hot enough (my type) and there are plenty of hot girls there anyway. So we eject from this set also.

After some shorter sets which I cannot remember anymore we chill at the bar a little. Then a fucking hot blonde walks by. Of course I open her. Since she was going behind the other girl it’s time to get the friend too so I get the friend back to us also. Good vibing, Alex- is engaging the friend. Good stuff. My girl is not only superhot but has also a very interesting personality. Fuck yeah. Problem is that she seems to be a little bit of an attention and knows many people there. So she ejects every now and then and comes back after some time. Good practice for me to chill the fuck out when I’m “alone” for a little time.

We continue with good vibing. This is definitely our set for the night! Initiate the afterparty plotline. My girl plays around with it in a lighthearted way. Have a very good feeling. It’s getting pretty (03:30) late and my girl isn’t there once again. Time to pull! I get the feeling that maybe I chilled a little bit too much and should have persisted more to hold her back. But this would be needy and “not enough”. Whatever…

However, my girl gets back after some time and both of them are ready for the afterparty. FUCK YEAH! We get our jackets and leave the club. Since Zonk is sleeping back at Alex-‘ place I text him that he should head over to the bedroom and close the door. Let it ring a few times so that he “gets the message” for sure. Alex- and I are going in front. I tell him that Zonk got the message and that this means that there are no problems on that end. Because we’re happy that it went that smooth on this side we start amuse ourselves even more not really taking care of the girls that are walking behind us and talking the whole time. It looks somehow a little serious how they talk.

And then something strange happens. 50m in front of Alex-‘ flat suddenly the blonde one just goes away without saying bye to grab a taxi. FUCK! Alex- and I are paralyzed. I don’t know what to do. Then my ego kicks in and I don’t want to run after my girl to turn it around or at least get the number. Very painfull experience. Guess we needed this experience. Waahhhahahhh.

However, Alex-‘ girl continues to walk with us and back to the flat. WTF, I still don’t get it what just happened… She gives us constant shit that we’re behaving like kids and stuff. However, in the end Alex- guides her to the taxi station where he makes out with her, tells her that he cannot go with her and that they’re about to meet up in the next week. Solid stuff.

When he gets back we talk about what just happened. We come to the conclusion that most likely we fucked it up on the way from Stadtcafe back to Alex-‘ place because right in front of Stadtcafe there were plenty of taxis. It doesn’t make any sense that both of them would go with us till 50m before Alex-‘ flat. So they were both down to come back to Alex-‘ flat. We shouldn’t have go in front of them the whole time just shooting the shit withourselfs and letting them all on their own. This gives space for them to rethink the decision and doubts start to pop into their head. I already got a light form of that feeling while we were going out of Stadtcafe. Unfortunately I was occupied with letting Zonk know that we’re coming. FUCK, but lesson learned I guess!

Conclusion:
-even though it hurts to loose a fucking hot set literally in front of the flat we learned a ton from this set
-the 2 on 2 pull is just a matter of time. this week we already had several “almost pulls” so I guess it’s going to be the next 2 weekends Alex- and I spend together that finally this shit is going down!
-also a very good reference experience for Alex- because, like Alexander~ showed in the Hotseat, he just got shit from his girl even back at his place and as soon as they were isolated she completely changed and was open.


That’s it for the week. Enjoy!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-~
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jais

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Probs for massive action. Your post-Alexander bootcamp posts have been awesome and inspiring!
And congratulations on fucking a german in Austria, haha
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great week, props for that! i had to lough imagine Zonk being sick and hiding in the bathroom while you guys are supposed to come back to pull 2on2. what a bad feeling that must have been if it would have been happen. I am sure he did send bad energy :D :D
Really cool how you adapt the "its only a matter of time" - concept to all parts of your game, even the long time goals like pulling together.

Do you think the period shit they give is always a shittest or just reality? acutally i always backed off then being non needy and rather going for the day2 but maybe i should still go for that situations and look for the pleasure in whatever way possible ;)

The last set obviously had too much time to rethink the situation. i remember the julien hot seat where he hast to constantly keep track of her RES to pull her home. i wonder if it wouldnt be better to make a quick call rather then texting zonk. you could always talk some rubbish to let him understand whats going on. therefore it would be managed and out of your head and you could focus back on the girls. but as u said, loosing means learning :)

see you for great nights out this week :)
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Yeah, it was a great week for you.

I was laughing so much about your analysis of the Swiss set: "Afterwards join a 4-5set of Swiss girls where Alex- and Zonk are already in. Fat asses everywhere." :))

A bit shitty that I got sick on Saturday. 1. because I couldn't go out. 2. not the best for your logistics.

Regarding the 1-on-1 set on Thursday, where I crashed in. I was talking with Alex- and we just wanted to know, if we move on to Stadtcafe. Furtherore I knew that the girl had to leave 45min later. Otherwise I wouldn't disturb.
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And thanks God that you have finally destroyed the limiting believe of laying German girls in Austria! :)))
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hahaha noiiiice. damn i was hoping you would never get your german girls. i can't bear the thought of you climbing my favourite girls.

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@jais
thx man! it was hard work though wink

@Dyna
Zonk was sleeping in thee bedroom... harder circumstances but whatever. good reference experiece!
pulling 2 on 2 is just about to happen. we fucked it up for several stupid little reasons...
what's the difference between "a shit test" and "reality"? girls are just that way. they want to see that you're centered and unreactive to their shit. see The Way Of The Superior Man by David Deida...
yeah, talking to the girls would've been the right thing to do. however, I didn't know if Zonk "got" the message that we're coming because I couldn't hear if he's on the line or the voice box...

@Zonk
alright, then let's have a man talk next time instead of you engaging the girl...
Yes, Limiting Belief destroyed!!!

@ven2012
haha, it was about time

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haha, looks like i have to re-read some books (like david deidas the way of t...) - if i start rereading books i can quit game and only read the rest of my life :D
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shit man thats a good song
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Week 49 (25.02. – 03.03.)

“Griass eich!”

Even though I didn’t fuck new girls this week (2 day2s that ended up in my bed but without fucking, and 2 pulls back to my place that I wound up not fucking them) I had plenty of very good reference experiences that will help me massively in future interactions. So it’s all good!

BIG EPIPHANY: What I recognized over the last couple of days is that “Advanced Game” has little to do with special moves you make but mainly to do with you ASSUMING THE CLOSE. The girl can just feel it that you’re completely comfortable in what you’re doing (means that you’ve probably done it many times before =social proof). I guess my game now consists of 80% assuming (I’m enough + positive reference experiences from the past) and 20% being patient applying the principles Alexander~ talks about till the girl is comfortable enough to go home with me. FUCK YEAH! That’s also why I had the feeling that I’m doing less and less and everything is so fucking smooth. It’s because I’m ACTUALLY doing less and less! Once you really internalize that you’re enough talking to girls becomes fun (as opposed to hard work). You just enjoy the female energy (being in the moment) and think on a very high level only (logistics). It’s like driving a car. Once you can drive unconsciously you are able to think concisously about which roads to choose to get to your destianation instead of micromanaging and thinking about which gear to use, when to use the flash, etc.

The German hottie I fucked last week was fucking down the day after but since then she didn’t respond at all (already sent her 2 texts). I still have her glasses at my place. This behavior doesn’t make any sense! Somehow this reminds me of 2 other girls. One is drama queen FB who didn’t pay her bills and therefore got her mobile disabled. The other one is Hungarian FB where I almost had given up because of no responses but then I persisted and called her to find out that there were problems with the text transmission. I’m dealing with so many girls now that technical problems and stuff like not paying phone bills or her being abroad and therefore not texting pop up from time to time. Solution is to be patient at first (not be needy) and then try other communications channels. This is the reason why I consider now adding FBs to Facebook now too… Let’s see how this turns out. However, on Wendesday I called her and spoke on her voice box as well as added her on Facebook. She called me back about 2 hours later telling me that she was working 24/7 over the last couple of days because of a congress taking place in the hotel she’s working. This makes sense and it sounded congruent so whatever. We scheduled another meetup for Friday but in the morning she texted me that her parents are coming to down unannounced and therefore she has to cancel it. Somehow some girls seem to ALWAYS have fucked up logistics. Strange. But let’s see where this all leads to…

It’s a logistical challenge to schedule all the girls. Which girls have priority (new ones or FBs)? How to deal with uncertain answers (or girls that seem totally down but then don’t answer “in time”-like the German hottie; do you hold a day free and for how long…)? This week I have to schedule 6 girls (4 FBs and 2 day2s). So far so good. Think I slowly get a feeling how to do it. This stuff is so fucking ridiculous… FUCK YEAH!

“Dogs” are texting me all the time. Nice!

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Monday FB:
Primary FB

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Tuesday Day2:
Meet up with brunette cutie I approached during daytime in week 47. She was pretty engaging in her texts.

On the way to billard she’s pretty stifled and talks a little bit strange. However, based on many experiences in the past I don’t interpret it because it really doesn’t matter. Worst case is that it takes longer to go through “the process”…

While playing billard she’s still stifled. Whatever… Just give her time. She slowly opens up in the beginning and then topics as well as physicality amps up pretty fast. It’s again a little bit of a negative but playful tension building up (like last week with one girl). I can feel that she’s a girl that needs some of it so whatever. She tells me that she has to get up very early. That’s also the reason why she’s just drinking Cola. However, after billard I normally take the girls to another bar before I pull them home (more comfort). Because of the time constraint (that is maybe just a shit test but whatever) and the fact that she’s living next to my house I decide to pull her home immediately.

It’s time for some Pizzatoast. Disgustelicious! I really have this down now haha. Also pop a bottle of wine. Just pour in a little bit. Some more vibing. Then I show her my flat. Especially the bedroom haha. First time I obvisously escalate by taking her hands and pullin her in. Makeout. After some minutes throw her into the bed. Get several shit tests. I can sense that this is going to be hard work. Get rid of the bra, open the pants. Always back off (1 step back, 2 steps forward). However, since this day2 is based on daygame I get the feeling that I already got pretty far. Don’t push it to the max. While writing this I still think that this was a good descision.

Throw her out of my flat.

Conclusion:
-good reference experience for a day2 based on daygame
-in the beginning she was pretty stifled and opened up pretty fast (just be patient and trust in the process)
-got her pretty far in the process

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Tuesday FB:
Salzburg FB

After throwing my day2 out of my flat I’m horny as fuck and have no girl in my bed. Waahahhah. Look at my phone. Got a text from Salzburg FB that I should tell her when I’m free again. Here we go. Text her up. She’s still awake. Initialize the “crashing into your place” plotline. Her shit test is ridiculous. Kindergarten.

Head over to her place which is only 15min by foot. Drink something. Fuck the shit out of her. Good vibing afterwards. It’s like we’re connecting better and better even though we’re on complete different intro-/extroverted levels.

Conclusion:
-first time I really went for a spontaneous meetup with a FB
-the more time you spend together the better the relationship becomes…

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Wednesday FB:
Hungarian FB
She’s initially in a bad mood because of a failed test at university. Next time it’s going to be the last chance to try it. However, turn it around pretty easy. Good reference experience!

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Thursday Day2:
Alright there were 2 meetups scheduled initially for this day. One FB (polish FB; I didn’t see for 3-4 weeks because she was on holidays) at 1700 and a new girl at 2200. However, polish FB texts me the day before that she’s seing her ex-BF again and is trying to get it going again. A few texts go back and forth (my text game is awesome; play with her feelings like it’s stupid to give it another try because she already knows that it doesn’t work and this is just a prologation of negative feelings and in the end it’s the same BUT loosing other opportunities like me…; don’t feel bad about it since girls are doing such shit all the time. in this specific case she already cancelled our meetup for the second time on the day before). However, I cannot turn it around for now so the meetup is officially cancelled.

Meet up with brunette from fav. bar in week 47.
She’s late, 15min. Get thoughtloops of what to do to not look low value. WTF… However, meet up with her. She looks shy. Head over for some billard of course. She’s pretty stifled. Slowly opens up. Then I cannot believe my own eyes. A fight is taking place in the smoking department of the bar. WTF. I’m pretty unimpressed by it and just continue to play. Then I see guys throwing billard balls at each other. WTF is wrong with these chodes!??!? At first I’m somehow amused by the stupidity of those “peasants”. As long as they don’t disturb the king… haha

After 2min one guy runs over to the non-smoking department trying to hide. Another dude follows him, grabs a massive plate and is about to throw it. I’m standing just 2 meters next to the hiding person when I realize that even though I’m not involved in the fight I still could get hit (what an epiphany). So I turn away. One moment later I can feel that I got hit at the arm. Damnit! First reaction of me is that I’m getting really angry and that someone is going to get a problem now! A second later my reason kicks back in and I just cool down. Good reference experience of me getting back into control over some overwhelming emotion!

My girl is paralyzed. I just grab her hand and lead her away to a relatively secure part of the bar. After everything cooled down we go back to our table and continue to play. She’s all over the place. I’m chilled as fuck. Nice.

She opens more and more up. Good stuff. Because she was ill she’s drinking tea. Screen if she drinks wine and what series she likes (for the pull). Good. It’s too early to pull her home straight so we head over to Gbar for another round. There I find out that she’s a “slut” (in the good sense) meaning that she fucks in exotic places like glaciers with guys that are not her boyfriend. Good stuff. She’s getting more and more arousLed.

Time to pull the trigger. Just put on my jacket while talking. She follows. We head out of the bar and to my flat. At the last intersection she doesn’t follow me and just stands still. Then I get the biggest shit I ever got in front of my flat “I’m not going home with you right now”. We look each other in the eyes. Very akward moment. First though is “I’M DONE”. I cannot even go for the makeout now… I get a little angry because it’s alreay pretty late (0100 am) and it’s a Thursday where I could’ve been somewhere else taking action…

Then I just think “NO, IT’S JUST ABOUT HOW I SEE IT”. Tell her stuff like “Just show you my flat, 5min and I kick you out afterwards”, “I leave my hands behind my back”, etc. She’s still not coming. Then I just brush and leave her to my flat. She’s still not following. I force it in a playful way “girl, this is really hard work to get you over here”. Finally she complies. WTF, this is pure willpower and persistence on my side… Fucking good reference experience for that part!

We go up to my flat. Pour in some wine. Good vibing. Since I have to hang out the laundry I do it while she’s sitting at the bar in my kitchen. Good stuff, shows her that I don’t care and am not needy.

Afterwards show her my bedroom and make out with her. Get her horny. Throw her into the bed and don’t follow. She still stays there. Join her. More makeout, grinding. Bra is gone but pants are a nogo. She tells me that she’s a very sexual person but has to know the other person better to fully let herself go. And she doesn’t to half-ass things in bed… Fair enough. After some head massage (thanks Alexander~ for that one) I kick her out of my flat.

Conclusion:
-very good reference experience for staying chill even if a fight is taking place next to me. Don’t react and just continue with the day2 like nothing happened afterwards
-got the biggest (most akward) shit test in front of my flat door and pushed through!

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Thursday:
It’s 0230 and I’m home all alone and didn’t get laid. Noooo. Time to take some action. Head out to our fav. bar on my own texting Zonk that he should join. When I arrive I see a few cute girls there that are all leaving over a couple of minutes (and before Zonk arrives). Almost nothing good left. Just mixed 2sets. Fuck. Bump into an old chode friend. Zonk joins. See a cute brunette walking by. Open her. However, I loose her after a few minutes. She wasn’t that hot and it’s already pretty late so we call it a night.

Conclusion:
-I love it that I still go out even if it’s already that late AND I’m on my own -> LET NOTHING BE AN EXCUSE TO NOT TAKE ACTION!

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Friday Day:
Just semi-approach a cute brunette in the supermarket. Shame on me… What I noticed recently is that I’m not that motivated to do any daygame stuff that is “forced”. Because I know that it needs some time to arousLe her I don’t play any hit and run sets anymore. If the situation is “right” I approach during day. Otherwise I let it be and do other stuff I have to do in that time…

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Friday:
After I finally got in touch with German brunette again we scheduled a meetup for Friday. She was working for a congress day and night and therefore forgot about everything else around. Whatever…

However, in the morning she texts me that her parents are coming to town last minute and she therefore has to cancel our meetup. WTF, why do girls almost always have so fucked up logistics. I don’t get it…

Anyway, head out with Dyna to our fav. bar. Open a 2set right after entering. Dyna joins in. Germans… I really stay calmed. My girl gives me shit constantly. She’s just somehow aggressive. I don’t get it. Stupid. She’s not even able to hold a normal convo for 2min. Since Dyna’s girl is also “stupid” we decide to eject. She’s not that hot to endure her shit for a longer time. It’s plain and simply not worth it.

Bump into Zonks Romanian FB. She also has the brunette girl with her that Dyna banged recently. WTF, this place isn’t “safe” anymore…

Open a bigger set right next to the bar. Good vibing. Dyna simultaneously opens another girl standing next to them. Turns out they’re all part of the same group. Switch to the hottest girl of the group. Smoking hot brunette. Tight body, very cute face. Fuck yeah. She’s into it. However, after a few minutes I find out that she has a BF. Damnit. But I screened for the BF. Props to me! We eject.

Open a 2 set at the other end of the bar. Good vibing but my girl again has a BF. Eject.

It’s already pretty late so Dyna and I plan to head over to Grelle Forelle shortly. On the way to the bathroom I see a 2set with 2 hot brunettes. Go in. Good vibing. They’re into it. Turns out it’s a 4set. I’m owning it. I’m not sure for which girl I want to go since both of them are very hot. While I talk to one girl the other girl engages me a few times. She’s more down and introduces me to the other 2 friends. Good vibing. After a few minutes I semi-isolate her from her friends. I’m sitting on the barstool, she’s touchy. Zonk arrives. The boys want to go since they both have a FB or a girl they already fucked here in the venue. Since my girl is pretty down I think about what to do. Introduce a venue change plotline. She’s immediately down for it and tries to convince her friends for it too. Just one of them wants to join.

Head over to Grelle Forelle. On the way there my girl and I are walking behind them and hide behind a wall. She asks me if the two of us don’t want to go to another club instead. Good sign. However, I want to not make her friend pissed for leaving her alone with the boys so I tell her that we will rejoin them. In the club more good vibing. Initiate the afterparty plotline (eating). She’s down. She tells me about her last relationship which ended just a couple of weeks ago. She’s is pretty emotional. I finally cut that thread because I’m not the chode who’s listening to all of her problems…

Alright, after some more chilling (enjoying the club) we finally sneak out of the club without anyone noticing it. Text Dyna that they should take care of the friend.

Take a taxi and head back to my place. Get a little shit test because she tells me that she wants something “special” to eat and disses my famous Pizzatoast. After tasting it she has to admit that it is fucking awesome. What else? Pour in some wine. Since she’s from Burgenland (they drink a lot of wine there haha) she disses the wine I have back at my place. WTF. Get a shit test about that I’m a player (guess the pull and everything went down too smooth…). See her texting with someone. Guesss it’s her friend from the club…

Then I’m about to get the ball rollin, pull her in and go for the makeout. She turns away. WTF, it’s like the first time since Alexander~s BC that I don’t get the makeout back at my place. Waahahahah. She looks at the watch and realizes that she has to get up in 4 hours because her family is visiting her.

I’m a little bit paralyzed and don’t know what to do. Call her a taxi. Go for the makeout again. Nogo. Damnit! We head down the stairs to the street. The taxi is already in sight. Go for the makeout for the third time. Nogo. Normally I would screen now for the reason and most of the time would get something to work with… Unfortunately I don’t have time to “talk about it”. So I just say “kissing is not your thing I guess”. I’m a little bit pissed. WTF is this. She goes home with me and doesn’t even make out. This is pathetic! She goes to the taxi and looks like she’s waiting for something. What? I already went for the makeout several times. I wish her a good ride home and just turn around not waiting for anything from her side. I cannot understand what was going on here…

Later I think about if I even want to go on a day2 with her. If she’s not even down for the makeout after I pulled her home. Then it pops into my head that I didn’t even get her number haha. So I guess that was the confused look she gave me while she climbed into the taxi haha.

Fortunately Dyna closed her friend on Facebook so it’s no problem to find her too.

Conclusion:
-this was the first time since Alexander~s BC that I brought a girl back to my place and didn’t make out with her. Very strange. However, as already mentioned I guess it was a combination of the following 3 things: 1. I’m a player (the pull went down “too smooth”; maybe I should chode around a little more), 2. she texted with someone (guess it was her friend who was pissed) and this person probably gave her social pressure, 3. it was already 6am and she had to get up at 10am, 4. (out of 3 haha) she’s still fucked up by her last relationship that ended just a few weeks ago
-however, good reference experience concerning leading!

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Saturday:
Meet up with Zonk and Dyna for lunch. Good discussion about lifestyle (development). Somehow I’m in a good position because I’m a freelancer BUT I also work from Mon-Thu so the only real difference between me and a regular employed person is Friday! However, this cannot be an excuse for anyone because the only difference would be that you’re not able to hit it up on Thursday nights till 5am. It’s enough if you pull Fri and Sat haha.

Head out with Zonk and Dyna. Since probably one of Zonks FBs is going to be in our fav. bar we head out to another venue we’ve never been before (Medusa). It’s very snobby and when we arrive it’s pretty empty. A couple of really young (14yo) looking girls are sitting at the bar. However, there is one 2 set sitting at the corner of the bar. One cute blonde and one smoking hot brunette. Seated sets where always a nogo. Back in the day this would be a mission impossible for my high energy game. A chill bar situation never ever worked for me. Now I also know the reason why. Because I wasn’t enough haha

However, after some minutes chilling in the bar, and the boys and me building a chode chrystal, I realize that it’s time to take action. Somehow I really got that I have kind of a leader role now. It’s lonely at the top. Don’t get me wrong, the wings I hang out with are good guys but I recognized that I transcended most of the usual bullshit they still deal with (willpower issues, AA, feeling not enough/trying to impress, lack of persistence, assuming the close, etc.). It’s all about me motivating myself to take action. I also bump my willpower into several wings to motivate them to take action. No one is really going to push me because they’re too in their head to get themselves going. Maybe it would happen, but this would be either “too late” or maybe not happening at all. I don’t blame anyone, that’s just me realizing the fact and making the conclusion that I have to push myself even harder in times I’m getting lazy. I cannot and definitely will not accept to rely on any kind of external force to get me to take action in the future.

Here we go, I open the set in the corner. Super smooth, as always. Boom, it opens like almost every set nowadays. No big deal! A good interaction develops. They’re into it, lean in, engage. Realize with what a classy girl I’m dealing with here. Awesome. However, after some time 2 guys approach them. They know them. I get that I’m part of the group now (what else, I’m enough) so we just introduce ourselves to each other. They leave us alone after a few minutes. Good stuff.

But I’m still alone. Neither Zonk nor Dyna join the set to wing me… WTF? Anyway, good vibing. At first it seems that the brunette one has a BF, so I focus some time on the blonde one until I find out that the brunette one just splitted up with her BF. Switch back to the brunette one. I’m so happy that I’m about to get the screening handled now! Finally Zonk and Dyna join the set. At first just to tell me that they plan to head over to the next venue. WTF!? You could have joined the set and winged me!?!?

However, they now engage the blonde one so I have time to talk to my brunette superhottie in semi isolation. She’s into it. They’re about to go to the next venue. We want to switch either. Fair enough. Go for the number. She’s hesistant. In the end she’s not complying because she just splitted up with her BF. I can see that the blonde one recognized it and gives some shit/social pressure too. I guess she’s jealous because she was into me too… However, I’m persistent. Nogo, but she puts in her FB. Never fucked a girl based on a FB close… Whatever, let’s see what happens and this set was definitely a golden reference experience for a high class chill bar situation with a smoking hot girl.

We head over to Volksgarten (formely referred to as “the toughest club”). It’s the first time I’m there after my Alexander~ Bootcamp. I always conceptually knew that in the end there’s no difference and it’s all in my head BUT everyone with experience in the game knows that understanding a concept and actually really feeling/interlizing it is not the same. Based on the good reference experience with the brunette hottie I kind of cemented into significantly deeper into my head that I’m enough no matter what.

Right after entering I open the first girl who is walking by just saying “hello”. She’s a supercute brunette one. She stops and looks at me. I do the hand of good. She comes over to me even though she’s standing a good 5m away. Assuming is key! Good stuff. I’m superchill. It’s a 3set and the 2 other girls are not hot and one of them is already leaving. I decide to lead them to the wardrobe since Zonk already went to the bathroom which is right next to it.

Somehow we loose them a little there because I just shoot the shit with Dyna. We open another 3set with 2 very hot twins. Somehow, the girls react like bees around the honeypot, even though I’m doing almost nothing. They’re already leaving the club. I’m not standing in the right position for the twins so I just get the number of the third girl who is hot but not my type (African). No big deal.

Then my brunette one (hand of god set) tells me that they’re about to go to the bathroom and I should wait here because they’re right back. We chill in this area for a couple of minutes. They’re still not back yet. Whaterver, I don’t care since there are plenty of superhot girls there.

Head over to the tent area where I bump into a bruntte superhottie. She recognizes me and tells me about the stuff we talked already back in Platzhirsch. She looks familiar but I cannot figure out what happened back then… She’s pretty physical but gives me som shit about me not remembering her. It’s a 3set and the friends want to go to the dancefloor. Damnit, this girl is fucking hot!

However, 2min later I see a supercute blonde one. Open. She’s down but just in town till tomorrow. Since there are plenty of other hot girls there I don’t really stick to it. I guess I really feel the abundance now. Even though I probably could make the pull happen she’s probably sleeping at her friends place, they give her social pressure if she leaves them, etc. So it’s probably not the best decision. We let them go.

Head over to the dancefloor. See a supercute Asian girl. At first she’s defensive but after she sees that I’m completely unreactive and stay chill and positive she opens up after a couple of seconds. She’s engaging and leaning in, asking questions. Good stuff. Befriend one of her friends. But the other girls seems to be socially akward… However, it’s a bigger set and 2 chode guy friends are about to pay a round at the bar so she leaves. At first I plan to just stay with the other girls in the group but they’re not talkative at all and then they leave too. WTF, whatever…

Rejoin with the boys for some short talking. Then I see a girl sitting alone and texting. Open. Sit down next to her. Good vibing. She’s cute but I get the feeling that I waste my time here since there are way hotter girls here and she’s not really an interesting or adventurous personality either. Somehow I guess I unconsciously sabotage myself out of the set. In the end I eject and go for the number…

Zonk leaves. Shoot the shit with Dyna a little till he suddenly tells me that he already approached 2 girls that are walking by and he’s having a hard time to reapproach them. Even though they’re already a good 10 meters away from us I follow them and open them fully assuming that it’s going to work. She stops and starts to interact with me. Another good reference experience!

Join Dyna and his girl who are already sitting at a table. Talk with Dyna that I don’t really find the girl attractive. Feel that they’re edgy and unpredictable. Definitely not the kind of girls I want to deal with since they’re like a bomb which could explode every moment. It’s better to deal with a girl that seems shy and introverted because in this situation I know that it’s just a matter of time till she opens up…

Dyna and I decide that we’re going for a quick pull just for the sake of the reference experience. Initiate the afterparty plotline. Shoot the shit some more. A word and a blow! Of course they give us shit. I’m a persistent motherfucker and I don’t really care if the pull is taking place or not (just care about that I go for it). In the end we pull them back to my place by metro (good stuff).

As soon as they arrive they’re behaving like little brats like don’t want to put off there shoes, do shit on my computer, in one word: being non-compliant all the way through. I think if I should just throw them out right away because I don’t really want to fuck them (both are not my type) and I have to get up early next day.

However, I decide to just give it a try and see what happens so I cook the legendary Pizzatoast. In the meantime I text Dyna that he should isolate his girl after the meal to my bedroom (because she already chose some tracks on my pc and this way they could do it together). After they finished lunch Dyna goes with his girl to the bedroom. My girl is still “eating” her toast and isn’t half the way through. I don’t want to run the train till she’s finished it. But it takes hours. She wants to force me to eat it. I don’t want to. It becomes a framebattle. WTF… Finally we split it up and get rid of it. Then she starts to play with a toothpick. Try to get rid of it. Nogo. Go for makeout. Nogo. Some more talking. Then make out with her. She’s in the top 5 of the worst kissers ever. Don’t get under her shirt. WTF. I’m going to get angry because I constantly get shit. And this is not the normal shit you get like pseudo resistant. It’s just her talking complete bullshit and trying to teach you a lesson. I’m really getting pissed. This is a waste of time. Go with her to the anteroom where she still gives me insane shit. No escalation possible. I make the decision to throw her out of the flat. She doesn’t want to go. I try to physically push her out of the flat. Nogo, doesn’t work. She tells me that she’s just going when the other girl is going too. Problem is that I don’t know how Dyna is doing with his girl but I guess that the other girl is just fucking around too.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I just head over to the bedroom where I find them still in all the clothes, just grab the girl at the wrist, drag her to the anteroom where I finally kick them both out of my flat. I close the door. Never was that aggressive but these fucking bitches were just playing around and wasting my (as well as Dynas) time.

Dyna is happy that I had the courage to kick them out like dogs because he thought that it would never happen to fuck his girl either and he wasn’t able to do it on his own. Haha. We enjoy a beer and then call it a night.

Conclusion:
-a night with many very good reference experiences (or should I say adventures haha)
-first high class and very chill bar set since Alexander~BC with an absolut stunning hottie that I owned all the way through
-this is also true for Volksgarten (which used to be my personal toughest club). Never felt that good (not concerning state) but just being superchill and assuming and all the girls are like bees around the honeypot.
-quick 2 on 2 pull with Dyna (first one) back to my place. however, the girls where complete attention whores and muppets like I already got the feeling pretty early in the interaction (calibration gets definitely better and better). I’m somehow proud of myself that I kicked them out of my flat quick and the hard way. They didn’t deserve any better haha
-really got another level of abundance because this was the first time that I really cut off a set with a cute girl that was into me just because I wanted to get a hotter girl

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Sunday FB:
Salzburg FB
It’s a mindblow how well we now connect to each other now. Never would’ve thought that…


Alright, that’s it for the week. Next week Alex- is going to visit me in Vienna again so be prepared for another week of crazy adventures. I guess we will finally make the 2 on 2 pull happen haha. Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!



Cheers,
Mountaineer-~
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