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July 26th, 2017
[proVIE] Mountaineer From Vienna: From Intermediate Purgatory To Advanced Stealth Awesomeness
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Mountaineer-~

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Join Date: 01/07/2011 | Posts: 360

@Zonk:
thx bro! I have a good feeling too. you've reached new heights too lately. if you stick to it (will power) your results will go through the roof...

@D-52:
thx, yeah, let's rock on!

@Feelgood:
hope, my stuff helped you

@YBP:
yeah, I was shocked too. I was like "noooo, stop thinking of yourself this way". unfortunately I wasn't able to turn it around then and there (of course...) and I'm definitely not going to do it in the future because I don't want to be exposed to people she is interacting with (drug addicts, rowdies, etc.)...

@ven2012:
we had such a blast and you're always welcome to hang out with us in the future! maybe we will visit you in New Zealand sometime... Yeah, the 4 on 4 pull needs to be done! you have potential and will become very good if you stick to it!

@Alex-:
didn't know the movie either (looked it up on wikipedia now). haha, that's very funny. will try that one as a backup...
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Mountaineer-~

Mountaineer-~

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Join Date: 01/07/2011 | Posts: 360

*Week 45 (28.01. – 03.02.)

Had a little talk with Zonk about that girl I pulled on Friday night who got raped by her dad. Even though I want to help her I won’t do it because I don’t want to get exposed to people she’s interacting with (drug addicts, etc.).

Since my Bootcamp and Hotseat with Alexander~ in Amsterdam in the beginning of January I cutted down article reading massively on RSDN. With a handful of exceptions. It’s mostly based on 2 factors. First is that I plain and simply don’t have the time. The week is packed full from Monday til Sunday with going out, going on Day2s, meeting FBs, writing my FRs as well as working and sleeping. You can already see that working and sleeping are the last things I mentioned. Even though I love my work (I am a freelancer) I don’t really want to work because I “need” the time to follow up on all the girls. Therefore I already cutted down the working hours…

Second factor is that one of the feedback points Alexander~ gave me during the debrief is very profound: “I want you to stop thinking you have anything more to learn about game, and identify with being sufficient in the game”. Since I embraced this everything is much more smooth. I enjoy going out much more. And the results are going through the roof as well. I DON’T NEED TO read the next article, watch the next video, read the next book. I CAN if I want to. However, watched the last video “Attraction Manifesto” of Alexander~s bonus series. This is the cutting edge shit!

Are you a fan of statistics? Here you get some! Finally I fucked 4 girls in 4 days (Mon-Thu). The last few days were just amazing: fucked 6 different girls in 9 days (last Wed-this Thu).

Alexander~s stuff just works! I’m so glad I did the Bootcamp and Hotseat with him! I’m now at a level where I just enjoy going out! Guess it’s all about really getting that “you’re enough”. It’s pretty easy to get it if you already have plenty of good reference experiences to back it up like “oh yes, I fucked several hot girls before… THEREFORE I have to be enough”. However, this is not the only way to do it but this is definitely the fastest haha.

Alright, the last 2 nights of the week didn’t go very well but I guess I needed the experience that I’m not invincible and I need to work on certain things. However, the interactions that I did were very smooth and I arousLed the girls. Fucked up in other areas… So therefore it’s all good.

This week I also included a mindset special “How To Fuck 8 Girls In A Month – And This Is Just The Beginning I Guess… (First Month After Bootcamp and Hotseat)” because I want to emphasize on the last epiphanies I had and pack it together into one block.

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Monday FB:
Primary FB
Since I’m completely fucked up because of the madness with Alex- I need some rest and meet up later than usual with her. Also have to get some work done while she’s here. She gets a little pissed. Haha, I don’t react to it at all. Some time later tell her what happened (she tried to produce some drama). That’s so amazing how these dynamics work!

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Tuesday (almost)FB:
Let’s call her Salzburger FB
She was the “textbook” lay from last week. Meet up with with her at Gbar. Recognize again that she is pretty still and introverted. At first it seems a little bit hard to “connect” with her in the conversation because we’re at pretty different ends of the introverted/extroverted scale but in the end it’s no big deal. Good reference experience because I want to be able to connect with “all the people”.

This is a little bit of topic but who the fuck cares… Since she’s working as a social worker we also talk about the girl I fucked last Saturday (instant pull) who got raped by her father and has a disastrous self image (don’t tell her that I fucked her of course haha). Find out that there are only “contingents” of people who receive a therapy for free. WTF, we’re in the 8th richest country in the world or so and people who got raped depend on the luck of requesting the therapy “at the right time” to get it. It’s like if the contingent of the year is already exhausted you can pay for your own… WTF.

However, after one drink we head back to my place and for the rest use your imagination haha. Anyway, the folding bed that I bought for Alex- finally got deflowered haha.

Don’t know how long I will be interested in her if she keeps being that introverted… For the long run I guess the difference in the intro-/extroversion scale will be too big. Somehow she was the fill-in this week anyway because Drama Queen FB cancelled our day2 (she starts again to behave childish – but that’s a different story…). There is already very good quality in the fuck funnel… If I have to get rid of a FB she will be the first one that I dump…

Conclusion:
-asuming the lay is sooooo key! I use almost no physicality at all during the day2s/sitting in the bar with a girl. This is a big mindblow for me: the more patient and chilled back you are the easier and faster you get laid!!!

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Wednesday FB:
Hungarian FB
She tells me that she’s on her period. Fair enough! However, I remember that last time she was on it she had very strong tummyache and didn’t want to fuck AT ALL. So I already was tuned in to a chill evening with her and enjoying spending time together. However, in the end we just ended up having sex. Guess the ache wasn’t that strong haha.

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Thursday Day2:
So I meet up with the blonde girl from last Saturday I almost pulled 2 on 2 with Alex-. She’s a little stifled in the beginning. Who cares. She just needs some time! Smooth billard, then to Gbar. There I bump into Zonk who’s there sitting with one of his FBs. Funny thing is that his FB saw me with another girl like 2 weeks ago haha. Don’t go for the makeout there. There’s no need. I just assume the kill. Then pull her back to my place. “Cook” some pizzatoast. This is going to be my favorite food from now on for afterparties. It really easy to cook and has a very delicious taste…

However, after we eat I just make out with her and then it’s BANGTOWN VIENNA. Then I take a shower and throw her out of my flat.

Conclusion:
-this is so unreal. like it’s so fucking smooth…
-except from the GERMAN girl (doesn’t count) I get no LMR recently
-she’s a very bad kisser, guess I won’t fuck her again

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Thursday:
After I throw the girl out of my flat I meet up with Zonk to head out to Platzhirsch. Best club on Thursdays.

Since I laid 4 girls in 4 days I’m in an even better mood. Unfortunately Zonk is in a complete different headspace now having to deal with drama from his FBs…

Open a 2set (blonde and brunette one) that is walking by. Since the blonde one immediately tells me that she has a BF I just send her away and Zonk alone with the blonde one. It turns out that it’s a 4set. The other girls join later. Since my blonde one has a BF I switch over to a smaller brunette one. She’s pretty cute. Her friends try to drag her away but she stays (4 times rule). She’s into it. Later her friends try to drag her away again (guess they know about the 4 times rule too haha). Get her number. While calling her I suddenly see my name on her phone. WTF. That means she already has my number. Find out that we already made out a couple of months ago, got her number but we didn’t meet up. Also find out that it was because she was pretty drunk and couldn’t remember me. But not this time. After some more talking I let her go to her friends.

Alright, Zonk is in a really bad mood and goes home. Head over to the dancefloor just enjoying a good feeling in my body. Feel this almost all the time now. It’s the feeling of AWESOMENESS haha. A couple of seconds later someone touches me gently on my lower back. It’s a cute brunette girl that starts to talk to me. She engages me heavily. I just chill. Then a friend of her gets a little pissed just because I say that kindergarteners are crazy. Stupid bitch. Try to reframe it, play along with it. Nogo. Whatever. After a couple more minutes she just pulls my girl away. Damnit. However, her negative behavior was far over the top. No chance for me to see that coming.

Then I see a smoking hot brunette one. She gives me a little shit (ADHD) but stays. Play along with it. Engage her friend too but after some time her friend drags her away. Whatever… Bump into them later again. More vibing. Get her number.

And now comes the best set of the night. Another fucking hot brunette one. I just go up and say Hi. She’s into it. However, since she’s a very hot girl she always has other stuff to do too. So she excuses herself a few times. I just talk to her friend who’s flight attendant. Good stuff. Then my girl tries to talk to me again. I’m fucking chill. Lead her away. Lean against the wall. She’s engaging and asks many questions. Talks about that she’s going to Amsterdam in May and I should join them. Good stuff. Later I find out that we have a friend in common. His name is Alexander~ and he’s from Brisbane. They partied a week in Vegas together. WTF, so this means that I’m going to be sloppy second. Haha, who cares this girl is smoking hot! After she excuses herself for another time she doesn’t come back over a couple of minutes. Damnit! Don’t see her again later. FUCK! However, I know that she’s going to this club regularyly so I will bump into her in the near future so it’s all good. Let’s hope that she hasn’t been too drunk. She didn’t look like it though.

Since it’s already pretty late I do one last set (another smoking hot brunette). She tells me that she has a BF who is WAITING AT HOME TO GET A CALL FROM HER AND THEN IS GOING TO PICK HER UP. WTF of a chode is this. How can a girl be attracted to this kind of guy… I don’t get it!

Conclusion:
-the whole night was a fucking good reference experience
-it’s so fucking smooth now when I open HB10s. Like it makes almost no difference any more if I open a 7 or a 10… maybe that’s just a thing of this night but I don’t think so
-definitely good stuff how this fucking hot brunette was engaging in the convo and I was just chilling back
-have to get rid of my unconscious behavior from back in the day of not opening the hottest girls in the club! however, awareness is the first step to it

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Friday:
Head out with Zonk to our fav. bar. This bar is unpredictable. One night it’s packed full, one night it’s almost empty. One night many cuties and hotties are there, the other night almost nothing. Guess what this night we have almost nothing there. But it’s like when you’re going up to a girl. You never know if it works out or not. You just can raise the probability that it goes well but never can fully control it. Just let go and enjoy the ride…

Something that changed over the last couple of days is that I approach less. Why? Because I’m fucking around 4 girls every week and it doesn’t make sense to get new “average girls” because I have more that I can handle already. Since Alexander~s game made it so fucking smooth even though with the hottest girls in the club there’s also not really a need to do long “warm up” sets. Cannot really remember but I guess I only talked to 2 girls. One was on the way to the bathroom and on her way back Zonk unconsciously stood in the way so she went another way back to her friends. The other one I cannot remember… Who cares.

Then Zonk and I are figuring out to which club we want to go tonight. This shit sucks. We better decide in advance where to go. However, we head over to a bar. It’s pretty full. I see a smoking hot blonde in a 2set and approach her (of course pretty chill). Turns out that it’s a 5set so I introduce myself to the other girls immediately when her friends try to talk to my blondie. She seems a little stifled even to touching her shoulders. Fair enough! Whatever, the ball doesn’t really get rollin. But what I know from my Hungarian FB is that no matter what she gives you back as long as she’s not going away it’s all good. Zonks girl is down but has something like a FB so he doesn’t want to stick to it. Since my girl is pretty stifled we decide to head over to another club. Go for the number. Nogo. Why? She had bad experiences in the past. Tell her that this was a good decision because obviously I’m a total creep (I love this one). Of course she says that I’m no creep but she doesn’t give away her number in general. I’m persistent (4times rule) AND I want to find out the reason so I ask her how the fuck she is going to meet new people if she never gives her number away. Haha, she has nothing to say in the first moment. Then she is telling me that is often in this bar indicating that she gives away the number the second time we see each other… WTF, this is definitely not worth the time.

We head over to the next club. Funny thing is that the people ther are pretty old. 30+. Yeah, whatever, once in a while this can be funny. See only one girl that is “hot enough” to get approached. After a few minutes I go in. It’s a 2set with 2 dudes. They look pretty chode. Good vibing. After 20mins I finally ask how their relationship to each other is. WTF, it’s the father of her son. Time to eject…

Since there is nothing more to gain in this venue we head back to our fav. bar. It’s already pretty late. No hot girls in the venue at first. Then I just have short eye contact with an not hot brunette one. She immediately starts to engage me and tries to pull me to the dancefloor. Nogo girl! Bye, bye!

Then a smoking hot Spanish brunette 10 enters the bar. Zonk is faster than me and opens her. I wing her blonde friend who’s not my type. After some time they bathroom us. WE DON’T REAPPROACH (don’t honor the 4 times rule). We will never know if we could have fucked them. However, I didn’t want to fuck the blonde girl anyway… If I would’ve been the one that opened the brunette one I probably would’ve persisted to it…

Conclusion:
-venue hopping sucks shit! always decide where you want to go in advance
-have to screen faster for BF
-first day I didn’t get laid after 4 consecutive days of getting laid (I’m a little frustrated now haha)

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Saturday:
Head out with Zonk and another dude from the forums to Platzhirsch. Unfortunately the quality is not as good as on Thursday and Zonk tells me that he’s going to pull one of his FBs tonight. Don’t get it... Planned to hit it up with a semi-natural too but he didn’t make it through the door with his friends. Shit.

So we are in the club. Since Zonk plans to go in 2 hours I’m about to find a good 2set with 2 hotties. Doesn’t look good since he just wants girls older than 20 and there are plenty of young girls here and the rest is “mixed” sets (hottie+fatty). Shit. Don’t approach even though there are plenty of cute girls there because I want to use the time with him. Zonk is talking to the other dude but they aren’t taking any action. WTF…

I eject from the “chode chrystal” and open a 3set. Goes pretty smooth till I find out that they are from Germany. Don’t want another longer convo with them. A little later they start to talk about that Germany is better than Austria. Don’t get it. I’m not aware that I provocated that. I don’t emotionally respond to it but this is just sooo unnecessary. I’m not interested in such stupid people… It’s like they got it planted into their DNA to piss everyone off. Eject.

Get back to the boys. They are still just talking and taking no action. Open a blonde girl (not really hot) who’s standing right next to me. Some convo then I see that she’s part of a big bday party. Don’t introduce myself to the other girls. No comment…

Open a 3set at the bar. The third guy talks a little bit and almost creeps them out. Turn it around. My brunette girl is into it but I somehow lose her after some time because her friends are engaging her and I literally do nothing against it. My motivation to push through is not very high tonight. While writing this I guess that a part of my inaction in this situation is based on still finding a 2set that I can do together with Zonk. In between I do a warm approach. Not worth to mention any details.

Screen the club for appropriate sets. Doesn’t look good. Then I see 3-4 blonde hotties walking by. I follow the to the other bar and open them. Turns out that one of them knows me from before. Guess I also have her number. Get a little shit but again I’m not really motivated to push through. Don’t ask me why… Eject.

Alright, Zonk wants to go. It’s pretty early and I’m hungry so I join him to our fav. bar where I eat a hot dog. One set before the hot dog goes nowhere (don’t really push through again). Then a supercute French brunette. She doesn’t want to speak English and her German is a pain in the ass to get the ball rollin. I say fuck it and head back to Platzhirsch solo.

Reopen the warm approach set. Shooting the shit a little. Goes nowhere (don’t really push it). Then I bump into the girl from the bday set again. She behaves strangely. I’m too weak to overwhelm it. WTF…

I creep around a little. Don’t find a “suiting” set and finally call it a night. Do you remember the last time it was like this? I can’t… haha

Conclusion:
-This day teached me a lesson. Don’t be dependend on your wings. Do your own thing and don’t wait for them to find the “perfect 2set”. If you willpower is not that strong on a specific night don’t “waste” it for others to push them. I have enough good reference experiences of sets that I did alone and got a solid interaction out of it
-maybe I will go out again solo to strengthen my will power and be more independend on wings!
-had several sets where I lost them based on pure non-persistence. Whatever the reason for the non-peristence was (lack of willpower, motivation or the possibility to find a good 2 set with Zonk instead) I could beat myself for not pushing through. I’m a little pissed at myself (positive form of being pissed). It’s pointless…
-Mountaineer- got destroyed this night. It was about time… But I will get back stronger!


Alright, that’s it for the week. Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!


Cheers,
Mountaineer

PS: here comes the mindset special (it can also be found in the success stories section. if you want to comment it please do it over there!)

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Mindset special “How To Fuck 8 Girls In A Month – And This Is Just The Beginning I Guess… (First Month After Bootcamp and Hotseat)”

Whatsup, Mountaineer- here!

First off, don’t get me wrong. I’m not here to brag about how good I am. Not in the slightest. I just feel the urge to help others to understand and enable them to get the same results that I get (guess it’s all about the main motivation of a man in life: INFLUENCE as opposed to the main motivation of a girl/a chode which is AROUSAL). I think that the content overflow on the front page of RSDN is not really helping if you don’t have a clue “how to use all this stuff”… The big buzzword is “Intermediate Purgatory”. I found (and partly still find) myself in that “phase” for a looooooong time.

A little bit about my background: Started at a very introverted level where social gatherings frightened me. I’m in the game for something around 3 years now and I started as a massive content junkie watching everything (Blueprint, Flawless Natural, Jeffy Show 1 and 2, Evolutions), read tons of books and articles and attended 2 Bootcamps with Brad and Julien. Based on my High Energy game I got “good results”. I got to a level where I had 2-3 FBs and fucked almost one new girl every a month. But then my progress almost stagnated. Guess that’s what we call Intermediat Purgatory. I was not satisfied with the situation because it always was a fight of ME AGAINST THE GIRL as well as getting viewed as this intense “pickup guy”.

Even though it was the complete opposite of everything I learned and did up until then I gave Alexander~s laidback stuff a try and attended a Bootcamp with him in the beginning of January (one month ago). I recognized a massive change in my perception of game and the results started to shoot through the roof. Everything now is so fucking smooth! Fucked 8 girls in total in January, 4 new girls in 2 weeks and have more or less 4 FBs now (mostly already based on Alexanders~ mindsets; turning new girls down to get a FB) with 2-3 new girls in the fuck funnel that I will fuck in the next 1-2 weeks I guess. => Alexander~s stuff JUST WORKS! <=

But let’s start at the beginning…
Guess I went through the typical phases that almost everyone does.
1. When starting off my “carreer” I watched tons of content and mainly struggled with doing the approaches (approach anxiety). What helps you there? WILL POWER (mainly based on PAIN and ANGER that you don’t get what you want and you say to yourself “Fuck it, I’m going to get this shit handled”). If someone would ask me what is the single most powerful thing that gets you good I would say it’s definitely WILL POWER combined with trying new things and sticking to the process -> TAKING MASSIVE ACTION ENHANCING YOUR COMFORT ZONE! In this phase my game was VERY HIGH ENERGY / VERY INTENSE. Therefore I was very polarizing! I got results but it was more like I blowed 9 girls completely off who were very pissed at me and the 10th girl was FUCKING ON (at least it seemed like it). This is also the phase where you’re starting to get first results and you’re making out with different girls in the club. You’re all about the ego validation “Look at me, I’m able to make out with a bunch of different girls in the club”. It was almost always a framebattle of ME AGAINST THE GIRL. However, you seldom pull any of these girls home or day2 them. Why? Because you’re radiating this approval seeking vibe that you need the validation.
2. After you’re able to approach girls and hold conversations and get the first results you start to build an ego “I’m good with girls” around it. This is the classic. And here’s the critical point about how you react to that. One group tries to protect their new ego (mostly unconsciously) by approaching less and less because they could get rejected and that would their newly built ego that just feels soo good. What’s the end result? They almost do nothing anymore like just approaching girls that give them approach invitations or more or less quit the game altogether. Definitely not the right way to do it! The other group of people is AWARE of what is happening and deliberately is taking action no matter what and is willing to this ego to get past this phase (like also Brad did back in the day). Of course you have to be in the second group to get better!
3. If you decide to be willing to your ego the journey continues. And now comes the part where I found myself in for a very long time. It’s all about being stuck in the Intermediate Purgatory. You get better little by little, pull every now and then and manage to get 1, 2, 3 fuck buddies which you lose again sooner or later. But you still get plenty of flaky numbers, day2 girls and don’t end up having sex with them most of the time. You are wondering why your progress got sooo slow. At this point again many guys just quit. In my case quitting was never an option because I KNEW that sooner or later I will figure it out if I stick to it (WILLPOWER).

Then something happened that changed everything…
And now we come to the point that changed everything! I was a little pissed about that inconsistency of Intermedia Purgatory where I was kind of stagnating (even though I had 2-3 FBs). Also I didn’t want to be viewed as this crazy high intense pickup dude. Then I heard about Alexander~’s style. Somehow it didn’t make any sense to me since it seemed to be the complete opposite of everything I heard till this moment from RSD. I was a huge HIGH ENERGY FAN. I was in resistance with Alexander~s ideas and concepts since they would invalidate most of the time and action I invested into the game so far. I couldn’t resonate with it in the slightest. However, like I already said, WILLPOWER and the willingness to try new things to get forward is the critical piece if you want to get really good. It’s completely needless to make 1000 approaches that are all exactly the same “If you do what you’ve always done you get the results you’ve always gotten”. Try out new stuff! I was a huge HIGH ENERGY FAN. But somehow I found out that this was partly just my subconscious attempt to be different to all the other guys in the club just standing against the wall holing their beer against their chest and doing nothing. Yes, the High Energy stuff worked at some level but it was just an attempt for approval.

However, over time I tried to integrate more and more of Alexander~s stuff into my game. My results went down significantly over a couple of months (as expected). Who cares, if you want to get better you have to stick to it (WILLPOWER) and trust that in the end it will get better! What exactly happened? I quit to try to convey value and just assumed it (“I’m enough”), I went for longer interactions instead of playing intense hit and rund sets. Also, I cut down my intensity from “being all in her face” which produces resistence to “relaxed chilled back and adding physical expressions from time to time” which just arouses her and makes her more and more open. It sounds so cheesy but “Time is really your ally”. The more time you spend with the girl the more comfortable she gets with you: “Patience is the fastest way to get laid”. I especially saw this during my last day2s that went amazing. This way you’re also able to fuck super-stifled GERMAN girls haha. How do you prevent the friendzone? By adding physical expression every now and then! And very key: apply the 4 times rule (persistence). This was very tough for me since in my old mindset I viewed it as being low value to reapproach a girl after she “rejected” you.

The mindblowing weekend where everything “clicked” was the Bootcamp and Hotseat with Alexander~ in Amsterdam in the beginning of January (one month ago). He is by far the most professional instructor I met so far (props to Brad and Julien where I already attended a BC but Alexander~ is much more structured, gives you real individual feedback he even writes down and sends to you). From this time on and after watching his bonus videos I PERCEIVE EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY. It seems that I can see “the matrix” now. I feel like I DON’T NEED to read any more articles, books. Guess I finally got into congruence with the mindset I AM ENOUGH!

In just being patient and expressing the full range of emotions with expressions of physicality every now and then it’s just a matter of time to get the girl into the bed. This stuff is so fucking consistent that I have to work on accepting that fact! It’s like if a girl meets up with you for a day2 the probability of getting laid is almost 100% (as opposed to my old stuff where it was very unprobable to lay her). Just spend time with her and assume the lay! Don’t rush it! After 2 SNLs I also laid 2 girls on the first day2 by mainly being PATIENT!

After the Bootcamp I went on a little short weekend trip to Alex- where we fucked up two 2 on 2 pulls (almost got laid) until I finally got back to Vienna where I fucked 4 new girls in 2 weeks. Combined with 4 FBs I fucked 8 girls in Januarly. Without Alexander~s mindsets I guess I would’ve lost some of my FBs already… Having already 2-3 new girls in the fuck funnel that I will lay in the next 2 weeks I guess. Everything is so fucking smooth now: ME AND THE GIRL as opposed to ME AGAINST THE GIRL. Recently the hottest girls in the club start to engage me. I get approached more and more often. And I do “less” than I ever did (meaning trying to convey value, being intense, etc.). It’s so fucking sick!

“But Alexander~s stuff is lame and I’m just a HIGH ENERGY dude…”
Why does Alexander~s (laidback) stuff work better than high energy stuff? Because it’s the way a guy with real abundance would think and behave. Let’s do a little thought experiment…
Imagine a man who is very good with women and therefore has a lot of abundance (let’s say he has 5-10 FBs who are all models). He even hasn’t enough time to sleep with all of them because the week only has 7 days. If this guy is going to a club would he go to the first hot girl he sees, tell her that she’s cute/hot and start to chase her? NO! He would think “This girl over there is hot. Fair enough! I already have more stunning hot girls in my rotation than I can take care of. I’m here to have fun so let’s shoot the shit with her a little and explore her. Maybe it turns out that she’s “better” than the girls I already have in my rotation (more adventurous, funnier, etc.).” => This is the real BUYER frame.

IMO High Energy stuff is good to get you started in your Journey but if you really want to get Advanced Alexander~s stuff is the best way to get there!

I know many guys that don’t give Alexander~s stuff a shot because it seems to be lame and so far away from their high energy stuff they’re currently doing. Fair enough! Guess what: I was exactly that kind of guy but I gave it a shot and it completely changed everything! As long as you’re stuck in Intermediate Purgatory and are not able to fuck girls consistently than you better give it a shot because it plain and simply works amazing!


Hope I could help you and I wish you good luck in your journey!

Cheers,
Mountaineer-
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Join Date: 01/07/2011 | Posts: 360

Week 46 (04.02. – 10.02.)

“Sers! Mountaineer-~ here!”

After 4 weeks of RSD support not being able to change my username from Mountaineer- to Mountaineer-~ I contacted Supermario (Mario-) who made it happen in less than 1 day. Don’t wait for shit to happen, find ways (people) to make it happen! Thx man!

Alright, prepare yourself for some more mindset/inner game stuff this week. I’m thinking about certain things heavily over the last couple of days since my whole perception of the game changed after Alexander~s Bootcamp and Hotseat. I guess this is only a temporary thing and in the next weeks it will all be more about adventures again! So don’t panic…

What I forgot to include into last week was that I bumped into an old classmate (cute brunette) on the train back to my parents house on Sunday. I completely owned it and immediately had the feeling that I’m enough and it’s just a matter of meeting up once to fuck her. But didn’t go for the number. Why? Can remember my thoughtloop. It was like “Oh, you already have plenty of girls in your rotation. No need for a warm approach…”. Thinking about it now it’s pretty retarded since this girl is completely different than pretty much all of the other girls. She’s VERY laidback and chill – in a fucking cool way! Since I want “the whole spectrum” of girls in my rotation (older to younger as well as very girly to more down to earth; I just want the different feminine energy that they radiate) this was kind of stupid… Whatever, abundance. Maybe I will bump into her again anyways…

In my flat everything is all over the place, I’m not really in best shape, unshaved, etc. What’s a little “alarming” is that it all doesn’t matter. I don’t even get shit tested about it. Somehow it’s good because it means that I OWN IT and got to a point where it all doesn’t matter anymore. On the other hand I want to change this stuff FOR ME so it’s even harder to do it if you don’t have the external pressure to do it…

What I recognized lately is that more and more girls start to add me on Facebook. I normally only go for the number to prevent girls “finding out” about each other. Not that I lie about it but I don’t emphasize on the fact that I’m fucking other girls. Somehow the girls find me on Facebook now and add me. Yeah, whatever…

Got another “zombie text” from a girl I opened in December that went to Hawaii for a month. Awesome, time to follow up… Good stuff that there are plenty of “long tail” girls orbiting around that are hitting you up every now and then.

Also my ex Tyrolean FB that I “lost to a cruiser” (because she’s working on one now) contacted me again. She’s probably coming back to Austria in March for 2 month. Good to hear that because it would be nice to fuck her again haha. This would be the longest timespan of a FB that I “lost” and fuck again…

After writing last week about that I almost don’t watch any content anymore on RSDN I somehow had some time in between day2s and was interested what is going on there so I checked out different videos. When watching the videos I have a complete different mindset now. Changed from “I have to learn/watch more before I am finally able to get really good” to “yeah, let’s see what crazy shit Jeffy posted this week. Maybe Brads new post has something interesting in it, etc.”. Btw. Juliens “Reframe. Done!” is going to get one of my fav. sayings haha.

Drama Queen ex-FB is just crazy. After we met up in week 53 it seemed that she finally chilled out and it’s going to be a good “thing” between us. Unfortunately it’s not so. After she cancelled a day2 and tried to move it to another day (I didn’t have time then) she texted me pretty late on a Sat night for sex. I had Alex- in town so I didn’t go for it. A week later she texted me that “she doesn’t want to see me again”. Got this text already 5-6 times from her. The sex with her is very good but I don’t want to waste any more time with such unnecessary bullshit. It’s simply not worth it! So I answered pretty strong “you’re behaving like a little child. one sec it’s yes, the other it’s no. my time is to precious for such bullshit. contact me again when you’re grown up”.

Saw Brads latest video about going out solo. Even though he didn’t really address the solo aspect (on which I know I have to focus on again to make me stronger for the future and especially be independent from my wings) he talked about being more proactive to people in general. And here I definitely recognized a sticking point because especially in my working environment I’m not fully opening up because it’s hard for me to connect with chodes. It doesn’t matter what they’re talking about I almost always see the limiting beliefs and insecurities that are lying behind their statements and I’m standing at the complete opposite end of the spectrum finding everything fucking awesome, no limits, growth. Therefore it’s hard to “connect”. However, I will make a dedicated effort to connect with those people more in the future. If you can go up to any girl and have fun why the fuck you shouldn’t be able to talk to chode colleagues at least for a few minutes… It’s just another form of Alexander~s “King Frame” where you have to connect downwardly with “subordinates”. Lesson learned. Will be applied. DONE!

In general STATEMENT OF EMPATHY IS SOOOO FUCKING KEY. You can turn almost anything around! However, “fucked up” 2 pretty good numbers by pushing it too hard after I “got” them via a statement of empathy. Turned out that I interpreted the girls response from a too low value mindset because I first thought she’s just having a random excuse not to meetup and it turned out that that’s not the case. However, she was a little pissed for me not taking it/her seriously. Guess that’s an indicator that in me intrepteting it negatively I’m somehow still in the “ME AGAINST THE GIRL” mindset. Have to work on it! I’m so fucking awesome, why should she not want to meet up with me! I will definitely try again (4 times rule). Let’s see what happens.

Fuck, needed 3 hours on Saturday just for texting and trying to orchestrate ~10 girls (FBs and day2s) for meetups. Which ones have priority (FB or day2s)? Do you go for 2 day2s on one day? How to react if she cannot tell you right away if she’s free on that day (maybe has to work)? WTF, this is really hard work. Especially if you get answers like “yeah, but I don’t know yet if I have to work on that day…”. FUCK, girls have so fucked up logistics all the time… But it’s all about trial and error… Everyone has to find his own best practice to handle this shit (especially based on the priorities you have: fuck as many different girls as possible vs have as many FBs as possible). Guess when you master orchestrating day2s and FBs from Mon-Sun you really mastered TIME MANAGEMENT in general haha! Wish me good luck!

I’m getting more and more abundance! However, the scarcity get’s back to you on another level if you’re not aware. Recognized that I’m now in scarcity to fill up every single day with a FB or day2. Therefore if a hot girl gives me an answer like “I don’t know yet for sure if I can make it. maybe I have to work” my thoughtloops are negative and about “shit, if she cancels the day2 last minute I’m doing nothing on that day wasting a day for a surefire other day2 with a maybe less attractive girl. BUT I would at least bring this other relationship forward”. This is fucked up. However, I don’t really know a solution to that till now…

My biggest sticking point these days is SCREENING!!! FUCKING SHIT. Attraction is almost all the time there but I somehow pretty often choose the “wrong” sets. Either I let them go "because I can reapproach them later" and later I don't see them again, or I persist right from the get go, stay in set and don't get to know the hottest girls in the club. Damnit! This is the main reason when I don’t close anything during a night lately. FUCK…

I recognized that I probably head out with different wings that are not really fitting to me (meaning they don’t take action, are not able to engage the other girls, etc.) just because of the fact that I’m a little bit scared to go out alone again. I now “know” that it’s better to go out alone than to have to take care for the girls as well as my wings also. As my willpower is strong I will make a dedicated effort to go out alone in the near future. Gotta get going out solo down again. It feels uncomfortable but let’s be real here: the whole journey of getting good with girls is all about going beyond your comfort zone. Also I cannot always blame “lame wings” for me not taking the level of action I want to and not utilizing my full potential. So let’s do this…

January was just amazing. The volume of sex I got was the highest ever and is still unreal to me. I cannot really grasp it. My self image isn’t there yet and has to catch up… But I guess that’s “just” the way things are going from now on. However, I’m aware to not become outcome dependent to “need” at least one new girl every week. Fuck that!

Time to get humble again and focus on the process while having fun in the club. The rest will take care of itself. I PLAIN AND SIMPLY JUST KNOW THAT THIS IS TRUE!

Enough mindfuck. Let’s get into the details of this week…

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Monday FB:
Primary FB
I’m losing attraction to her since I’m getting more and more hotter girls into my rotation. Let’s see where this all is leading to…

First time she tells me that “she’s in love with me”. It was just a matter of time… Tell her that “love” is just a form of self-hypnosis (cf. Tyler in the Blueprint).

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Tuesday FB:
Hungarian FB
Really appreciate the time with her. Hottest girl in the rotation and our connection gets stronger and stronger. She’s into me hardcore. And she teaches me filthy stuff in Hungarian haha

Based on all these different “relationships” with different girls I’m supercharging my general relationship abilities. NICE!

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Wednesday Day2:
Meet up with Germnan brunette cutie in a bar. Good vibing. Without any physicality. I’m just chilled back. Then back to my place for another drink. Get her into the bed. She still doesn’t want to get rid of her jeans – WTF. Then I start to investigate a little because I want to know what is going on here. Turns out that this is the first time she’s dating someone from cold approach and “just needs more time”. Throw her into the bed and tell her that we’re not going to have sex after this discussion I’m not able to get a boner anyway haha. So she also can get rid of the jeans because nothing is going to happen. Ok, we get rid of her jean. Get her really horny. I can see how her mind is fighting against her emotions. Guess she’s near the edge where the emotions are taking over. Unfortunately it’s quite late and she has to get back home. DAMNIT!

Conclusion:
-this is going to be really hard work…
-on Sunday I get a very logical text from her (what else do you expect from a German girl haha) that this was all “too fast” and she thinks that we’re now on a point where we can’t get back. It’s because I violated the “patience” principle and rushed it… I know that I can turn it around… but what’s the point. Is it worth it? She’s not that hot. It would all be just about FUCKING A GERMAN GIRL IN AUSTRIA for the first time… I’m not sure yet what my decision will be. Mainly I will decide based on the fact if other day2s are taking place and will “use” her as a fill-in.


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Thursday:
Finally a day “off” without a day2 or FB. Somehow I missed it a little bit to have some time for myself… Anyway, head out with Zonk to our fav. bar. Not really much going on.

We’re literally screening the venue for a 2set that is “hot enough”. It’s amazing when you don’t need warmup sets anymore because the concept of “state” doesn’t make sense to me anymore. I KNOW that I can go up to a girl in a venue immediately after entering the club (or at any other time in the night), be chill and have a good conversation (as long as she is not completely retarted). It’s not necessary to build up any kind of state and whatnot. This is a massive shift in everything. Guess it’s all about really getting it that “you’re enough”. FUCKING AWESOME!

Anyway, after shooting the shit for let’s say 20min we choose a 2set. I open. Smooth stuff! Zonk joins in and engages the friend. My girl is a little stifled. Slowly she opens up. Somehow she’s still pretty stifled to any kind of physicality after 30min. Very strange. I can sense that something with her is not “normal” (because she’s not German and behaving strange haha). She’s always talking about that I would stalk her if she would tell me where she’s working at (e.g. because she’s working at a club) – but not in a playful way. I play along with it (don’t emotionally react to it) and she’s still trying to hold that frame. After one hour they as well as we have to go. Out of the ego investment and because I just want to know what happens I go for the number. Nogo. “Yeah, I’m a creep. Wouldn’t give myself the number as well” (while everyone with 2 eyes in his head could see that I’m the complete opposite of a creep). Still nogo. This is really retarded. She wants to get my number. WTF!? Tell her if she doesn’t plan to contact me it’s a waste of time…

After we say good bye to them Zonk tells me that his girl was strange too. We talk about that there are 2 groups of guys. The “cool” ones almost everyone likes to hang out with (got that they’re enough; like Zonk and finally myself haha). And then there is the other group of guys that are “not cool” (creeping their way in; trying to get something out of it; trying to convey value; even wings you wouldn’t meet up with during the day to drink a coffee with because they are just weird; of course I used to be in that group for a long time). However, girls that really still think that I’m a stalker and whatnot just lack massively in their ability to get it (this is just the minority of girls I meet recently because the majority is down almost all the time so I’m pretty sure about what I’m talking here; even if it’s not true who cares! this would be a nice selective blind spot!). Somehow, I’m now on the other side of the fence where I start to loose attraction to people that are fucking socially miscalibrated. Even if the girl would contact me I maybe wouldn’t meet up with her. More precisely maybe I would meet up with her in the name of “reference experience” to see how her stupid behavior continues haha. But I have no genuine interest in her anymore…

So, enough shit talk about stuff no one except me is interested in haha. It’s time to get back to talking about some action. Zonk and I head over to Platzhirsch. Good quality there. We’re looking for some hot 2set.

Open a 3set on the dancefloor. The girls are into it. It’s just feels so easy… Somehow I find out that my blonde one has a BF in the first 2min. I slowly shift my focus over to a hotter brunette one (didn’t see her hotness in the first place). Good vibing. She engages. Zonks girl is all over him but unfortunately not really hot. Time for a short men talk. Zonk tells me that my brunette one has a BF. Damnit, I forget to ask it again. He wants to go for a quick pull with his girl. Fair enough! I’m a good wing so I will engage the other 2 and maybe make some shit happen with my brunette one. Shooting the shit some more with my brunette one. She’s fucking down to my physicality and is leaning in massively. WTF. Actively screen for BF. Jep, she has one. She asks me if Zonk is single because her friend is single too. Haha. Let’s help Zonk out here a little bit. Ask my girl if Zonks girl is open for some adventures or more the conservative one. Start to talk about SNLs. My girl is pretty conservative on that one and starts to judge especially girls to do it. Not the best setting for Zonk to pull her friend if she feels the pressure to get judget. Alright, Zonk has to get home because he has to get up early.

I’m thinking about if I should stay alone. Since I’m fucking tired too I prefer to go home too BUT at least open a fucking hot girl and if it goes well I stay. Fair enough! Open her. She’s very high energy. Plow over it but somehow I get the feeling that this is not going to be very solid because she’s that high energy… We call it a night!

Conclusion:
-I definitely lack in the “screening for the best set” department. FUCK! First set were 2 completely uncalibrated girls and the other one was with 2 girls with BFs…
-However, the rest was fucking smooth. So it’s all good and another good reference experience

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Friday:
Head out with Zonk to Look Bar because in our fav. bar one of Zonks FBs is going to. This place is pretty big. Pretty young people there. We go a round to see how the overall situation is…

Get rid of our jackets. Open some cute girls. Unfortunately they’re already on the way to the next club. Shit happens…

Then Zonk sees a 2set standing in the corner. I open them. My girl is very stifled. After 30min she’s still crossing her arms. WTF is wrong with you girl. Find out that she has a BF. It’s working pretty good with Zonks girl so I stay in the set to wing him. Since it’s already time to head over to a club Zonk gets the number and we say good bye to them. Later Zonk tells me that his girl was a little bit strange too. He is not sure if he should meet up with her…

Head over to A-Danceclub. It’s a over 21 club. Haven’t been ther for over a year. Since it’s vacation time the club is not packed full. There are many VERY old girls there (40+). WTF. Somehow it’s almost impossible to find a hot 2 set. My motivation is to further look for one. Then I see a 3set. Pretty hot. Smooth convo with my brunette. Zonk engages the 2 other girls (blonde). But Zonk is not motivated. He tells me that they are pretty dumb. So what does Mountaineer as a good wing do? We’re looking for another set that fits us both. Unfortunately didn’t find one. There are sets with one hot girl and the other girls are usually either fucking old or solarium bitches. My girl is quite hot though. But because we want a 2set I eject after some time. Damnit. Lost Zonk. Afterwards find him with a “not hot enough” blonde one. He wants to stick in the set. Another Zonks adventure of “fucking the warmup”. I’m a little pissed because I ejected from previous sets because the other girls where not Zonks choice just to be “all alone” afterwards because Zonk wants to fuck the not that hot warmup…

Unfortunately my hot brunette is gone now. Find a bday set with a cute brunette. Since I don’t find anything really hot I stick to it. Good vibing. Fucked up logistics since they’re coming from the countryside and sharing a car. Get the number and call it a night.

Conclusion:
-I really suck at screening! have to work on that!
-Zonk and I really have to clarify at the beginning of the night what we want: either we’re doing a hot 2set together and go for the 2 on 2 pull or everyone does his own thing. Either way we have to stick to the decision then!

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Saturday:
Alright, head out with Yoshi to Look Bar. It’s pretty early (2130). Time for some catch up talk since we didn’t see each other for quite some time. Interesting to see the different views to “the game”. Somehow I feel like I really got beyond most of the “old school” limiting belief bullshit. Do 2-3 sets or something. Not worth to be mentioned. The people are still pretty introverted. It’s not easy to “game” if your wing is not really engaging…

Head over to Manolos (a latin bar). Not many hot girls there. Open a 2set in the smoking area. My cute brunette is opening up and starts to engage. Unfortunately the other girl is getting bored and a little bit defensive by my wing. At first my girl doesn’t respond to it because I can see that she wants to continue to talk with me and doesn’t want to leave just because her friend is getting bored. After the other girl goes to the bathroom and later comes back and seems really pissed she “has to” go with her. The convo is too short to get something solid out of it but I go for the number. Nogo. Don’t really persist for it. Whatever…

On the way out of the bar I see a very cute brunette on the dancefloor. Open her. She’s into it. Yoshi engages the friend. After some time I find out that she’s married. Damnit.

After a snack we head over to Grelle Forelle. But it’s too early. The big floor is still closed. We bump into a 2 set that is waiting for the bigger floor to open too. My girl has very hot body and an average face and looks drunk and/or high. Since there are not really alternatives at the moment I stick to it. The bigger floor gets opened. I lead her into it. Lean against the wall. She’s engaging. I know that I can kiss her. Somehow I’m just thinking what I should do with her. Even if I pull her home because of her fucked up condition this is not really leading to a FB and I won’t enjoy it that much when I know that she’s just completely wasted. I’m not needy anymore to fuck “any girl” that comes along. I want to enjoy her company and have a good time together as well as get better in the game of pulling “hot and not completely wasted” girls. So there’s no point to do it…

Whatever, after some more time I make out with her because I don’t know what I should do with her instead… Some minutes later she tells me that she has to get back to her friend. I feel no intent to hold her back so I let her go. Even if I’m going home alone that would be “better” than going home with her. Sounds strange but it’s the way I feel at that moment.

The club starts to fill up. Later we see a group of girls near the dancefloor. Yohsi wants to open them but is just standing next to them doing nothing. After 2mins I go in and open them. Then I want to introduce him to the girls and turn around. But he’s gone… The hottest one is married. Damnit. But she tells me that her friend over there is single. Somehow this happens from time to time with girls from Eastern Europe that they give you such hints. Alright, engage the brunette friend. She’s cute. Start a convo. I don’t really engage because I’m thinking about where Yoshi is gone… After some time brunette girl and another one head to the bar. I know that I can reengage when they come back but somehow I don’t really feel the urge to do it.

Looking for another set where I can wing Yoshi. Find one. He goes in. I wing the other girl. Tall hot blonde one. Fuck yeah. Good vibing. Somehow Yoshi looses his girl and she goes away. Some minutes later Yoshi tells me that he’s calling it a night. After some time my girl tells me that they’re about to head over to Volksgarten. First thing that pops into my head is “yeah, let’s give them a lift since Yoshi is there by car anyway. I will figure something out in the meantime how to get them home…”. Call him and tell him that he should wait since I’m about to bring the girls with me. Then my blonde one walks by. Grab her and pull her in. Tell her that we’re about to drive downtown by car anyway and they should join us. She’s down for it. Then something strange happens. We find her brunette friend talking to a bouncer. Head over to the wardrobe. Now both girls are talking to the bouncer. We already got our jackets. I’m standing next to them looking a little bit like a fool. Damnit. Only thing that pops into my mind is “hey, the ‘taxi’ is waiting. Let’s go…”. Somehow they respond negatively and tell me that we’re not going to share a cab. It’s like a complete 180 turn. I’m not able to figure out if it was the brunette girl or the bouncer (who’s obviously a friend of the brunette one). Somehow I’m fucked and just say “bye” and head away. If there wouldn’t have been a bouncer involved I guess I would’ve pushed it further… Damnit!

It’s 0330. Since I’m already wearing my jacket I call it a night.

Conclusion:
-it’s really interesting how “lame wings” can paralyze you to take action for yourself. However, this was a good reference experience to get stronger in your own beliefs but next time it’s just a waste of time. I hate it to blame others for me being inactive but I guess that was the reason behind it. Conclusion is to go out more solo again!
-proud of myself that I went for the pull with the superhot tall blonde even though a bouncer was standing next to them

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Sunday Day2:
Had a day2 scheduled with Salzburg FB. After she told me that she has “hormonal problems” (whatever this means) and we can have sex earliest on Wednesday AND the blonde girl I fucked last Thursday texts me if we can meetup today I cancel the other day2. I fucking love this kind of feeding frenzy.

Everything goes straight forward. Meetup at Gbar. 1 drink. Go home to my place. One more drink and then I just fuck her and throw her out afterwards.

Conclusion:
-somehow she was just a fill-in for the other girl… I’m not sure if this was just an ego thing…


Alright, that’s it for the week. Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!




Cheers,
Mountaineer-~
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Your post lead me to Brads Video about going out solo. As u mentioned its not about that, its about creating a social circle. But its a weird thing and worth talking about it: For myself, I think i am exactly that kind of guy, talking to everyone, chatting, connecting people. But staying within my comfort zone.
Actually, i dont have time to stick to all the people. In my past i often felt sorry for not meeting with them or not joining them if they asked me to. that put me into a lot of stress. nowaydays its easier because i trust myself more that if i say no to this opportunity therew ill be the next one where we will meet up and the still like me. - but the core thing about is is actually how to step up: how do u change your social environment. how do u ditch the people u dont value that much and exchange them for others (even though this sounds weird). how do u integrate the hot girls into your environment (which in the end should be the most natural way ever to get to know new girls). It should be approaching everyone actually. men, women, everywhere. at work, in the clubs, at the bus stop etc. and always feeling relaxed and comfortable. i often then have the thought of "but i annoy them or steal their time" or "whats the sense of talking to them right now, i am fine here and they are fine by themself as well".

The truth for me is that friends and social circle made it super hard for me to step up because of social conditioning. its hard to explain your friends that u dont like to drink, its hard to explain them why u dont stick to them at the party and instead approach other girls. this means a night with your friends are probably 1/10 as affective as a night where u focus on approaching only. and thats the hard thing: is it better to put yourself out of comfort and do it fully, or doing the easy more relaxed and secure way of being around your friend where the "i do it anyway and push myself" action is the hardest.

its a thin line and i wonder if its really impossible to combine it as i tried and failed so many times. i guess once u initialized your relaxed, freedom from outcome and i-am-enough frame you can do it everywhere. Maybe its about pushing yourself ALWAYS: in the club, at work, when u are on the streat, when u are alown. follow your thoughts and intentions. when u think of this girl at the other side of the street, why not talking to her, if u like that dog of this 80year old man why not doing a little chat. we probably have to push us all the time. ... ok, thats a big topic and i lost track, we have to continue this once.
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Week 47 (11.02. – 17.02.)

Well, Hello!

One thought about the newbie problem of “running out of things to say” as well as “screening for logistics”. Recognized recently that my first question I ask a girl is almost always who she’s here with. That gives you the opportunity to get a first glance about her logistics and opens up so many possible threads to talk about. Also talk about your friends and the adventures you have and had with them.

This week I went to lunch with colleagues one day. Really tried to connect to them. However, one colleage who used to be self employed in the past (like I am now) was fucking negative… Also they started to talk about computer games. C’mon, are you fucking kidding… However, on another day I went for a beer with colleagues of another consulting company and there we just shot the shit. Anyway, I made a dedicated effort to connect with the working environment chodes in both cases. Good stuff!

Unfortunately it wasn’t possible to set up a single day2 this week with the numbers I already had from the last week(s) (several different reasons). WTF… But probably this just means that the initial interactions weren’t solid enough…

This week I got a couple of pretty solid numbers. Really looking forward to how this turns out.

Little excursus about German Girls: Everyone who’s reading my Journal knows that I have a “special” relationship with girls from this country. However, everytime I’m in Germany shit is going down. Went to Germany 5 times for weekend trips. Pulled twice and fucked 2 other pulls up in a pretty late stage there (not to mention several “Makeout Buddies”. haha, I love this word). Sooo, looked like everything is going well… BUT, back in Vienna I haven’t been able to fuck a single girl from Germany AND we have plenty of them here in Vienna. I just don’t get it… They are so fucking stifled here as opposed to pretty open back in Germany. However, over the last couple of weeks I was dating a German girl. She was stifled – as expected. I was patient. After one month she still didn’t want to get rid of her PANTS. However, managed it to get her out of her pants and really turned on. A few days later I got very logical texts like “… I like you, but just like a friend…”. And this is after we heavily made out and I fingered her. It’s like she’s all over the place and doesn’t know what she’s talking about haha. Enough of this stupid German shit. I cut this shit with a very judging text. Maybe someone can tell me the difference between German girls in Germany and in Austria. Why are they behaving completely different here. I don’t get it!!!

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Monday FB:
Primary FB
Had a lot of talking. Finally she wanted to know what all this “love is just a form of self hypnosis means”. Unfortunately I cannot really explain it to her. Tyler talks about it in the Blueprint. It’s one of these things what you understand if someone is explaining it to you but you’re not able to explain it to another person. However, I cannot tell her that she is needy because she’s in love… Whatever, we conclude that however it is called we just enjoy the time we spend together and the sex. Period.

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Tuesday FB:
Hungarian FB
Meet up at my place to cook something. Want to combine FBs with productive tasks like learning to cook now. This saves time! While the sauce is on the stove I start to make out with her and pull her into the bedroom. After some 69 I constantly have shit thoughts in my head and finally the bruning sauce also. Loose my boner. Damnit.

We eat and watch some Family Guy afterwards. I’m still thinking about it. Then we end up in the bed again. And this time again no boner. WTF! Talked with Zonk recently where he told me that all the sex makes him less horny…

However, I reframe it as a good reference experience to stay chill and make the best out of it. So I openly communicate that it doesn’t look that shit is going to happen tonight. This has placed all the weight off of my shoulders. Some time later while fingering her and doesn’t have the pressure to fuck her I get back a boner and fuck the shit out of her.

Conclusion:
-very good reference experience of turning this shit around. Normally it’s hard to get out of such a negative thought loop and this night is fucked. Eckhart Tolle for the win: 1. accept reality, 2. take action

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Wednesday FB:
Salzburg FB
Meet up with her for a drink. It’s not really ease to hold a convo with her because of the different intro/extroverted levels we are at… However, after a drink we go back to her place. I’m freezing. Her flat is cold too. The happenings from last night make me insecure. Back in the day I would’ve tried to cover it up to the point where it’s not possible any more and I get into a negative thoughtloop. WTF, time to cut that shit! Plain and simply tell her that I’m freezing and we should get under the blanket. After 1min I’m not freezing any more get horny as fuck and fuck the shit out of her.

Afterwards good talking about different topics. It’s like the best talk I’ve ever had with this girl. We’re also talking about female friends. Then it pops into my mind that I don’t have a single female platonic friend. Because of my “no filters” mentality and the fact that this FB is not that important to me I just say it out loud. She says that she thought the whole time that I’m seeing other girls. But it’s ok for her. She even asks me how many girls I’m seeing. Tell her the truth. It’s all good. Good stuff. After some time fuck again the shit out of her. Good stuff!

Conclusion:
-again Eckhart Tolle for the win: 1. accept reality, 2. take action
-maybe this FB is getting more interesting now. Let’s see…
-a few days later I get texts like she’s coming back to town and if there is a “slot” free for her. haha, she’s fully on track now

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Thursday:
Alright, it’s Valentines day. Finally one day “off” concerning day2s…
After work go for a beer with 2 colleagues. Since I’m a freelancer I coorperate with different consulting businesses. Interesting how the cultures differ from company to company. They’re more open. Shoot the shit. One colleage kind of got it what I’m doing and always asks me how many “girlfriends” I have. Funny stuff. 100 times better than chode talking about playing computer games. WTF!

Head out to our fav. bar. Since Zonk is going to be late I get a mineral water and chill a little looking around for a good set. Unfortunately there is not much going on concerning a hot 2set. See a cute brunette in a 2 set after a few minutes. Go in smooth. Good vibing with both girls. Good stuff! After some time Zonk arrives. See that he has a FB with him. However, after some time winging me he gets back to his FB. WTF… Turns out that I have to take care of both girls over the long run. Finally I manage it to screen for BF. Yes!!! Whatever, it’s no big deal anymore. We have a short men talk after a while and decide to head over to Platzhirsch getting rid of all the girls (as planned). Get the number and off we go. This number seems pretty solid. Unfortunately while leaving the bar I fully recognize that the bar filled up with really hot girls in the meantime. Damnit…

Head over to Platzhirsch. It’s pretty late when we arrive. Open some girls but they somehow all react negatively. Don’t get it… Maybe I want to be in a really hot set now after the “average” set in the bar before.

Zonk opens a hot 2set upstairs. I join. One girl tells us that they have BFs. Don’t think about it and don’t persist. Guess this is the flipside if you’re too smooth. You somehow loose the ability to persiste through potential shit tests… However, a bouncer was standing directly next to us the whole time so this tempered my intent to persist too…

Go for a round through the club to find a good set. Almost all hot girls are on the dancefloor. Don’t really want to do a set on the dancefloor. However, open 2-3 sets there but don’t persist through the loudness of the music and some initial shit tests.

A few minutes later we see a 2set from the dancefloor standing at the bar. Go in. Zonk wings me. My girl is hot but pretty stifled. Let’s give her some time. After a few minutes she opens up. Good stuff. This is going in the right direction. Then something strange happens. She tells me that she’s right back. Talks to her friend and 1min later just says bye and goes HOME. WTF is this… This is social uncalibrated to the max… Since Zonk is not into his girl we let her go too…

We call it a night.

Conclusion:
-had a pretty solid set in the bar, however the tradeoff is that I didn’t eject to open hotter girls that went into the bar after some time…
-if you go out much you think that you’ve seen everything. and then you experience something like a girl that just goes home… however, later turns out that maybe she was in a hurry to catch her bus. Anyway, at least she could have said something. Strange shit…

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Friday:
Head out with Zonk to our fav. bar. There we meet up with a fresh new wing called Dynamiques (will call him Dyna from now on because I’m lazy). Zonk already knew him from his chode friend circle but they both weren’t aware of each other being into game haha.

However, we shoot the shit a little. Then it’s time to hit something up. I walk by a set Dyna already opened. He wants to introduce me to them BUT one girl already knows me. This girl is continuously walking by and saying my name all the time. Guess I will fuck her sooner or later haha. However, I don’t really find a hot set…

A little later a guy approaches us while Zonk and I are chillin at the bar. They’re playing “spin the bottle” and he has to find someone now to make out with a girl. Zonk and I are sceptical but then I say fuck it. Turns out this girl is really not hot (you could also say ugly). However, I want to make this fun AND I don’t want to see anyone in the bar making out with that chick so I tell her that it’s only possible in the corner. Lead her there and make out with her for 5sec. Guess this was the first time she made out with someone because she kissed like her tongue has rigor mortis haha.

Later Zonk and I open a Spanish set. Good vibing. Then the girl I made out with opens me and wants that I should tell 2 girls, to whom Zonk and I already talked to, that I made out with her. WTF… Just play around with it and get rid of them. Find out our Spanish girls have BFs. Eject. Yes, I screened again!

Open a cute brunette in a bigger group. She’s into it. Then one of her friends comes along and tells me that we already know each other. WTF. Turns out it was last summer in MQ… Whatever, after some time she leaves again. Isolate my girl away from the group. Good vibing. I see that Naturalito, who’s in town tonight, just entered the venue. My girl “wants” to get back to their friends. Hold her back 3 times and engage her in a convo. Since I haven’t talked to Naturalito yet I get her number and let her go.

Shooting the shit some time with Naturalito before I open a 2 set at the bar. 2 cute girls (brunette and blonde). Naturalito wings me. Turns out that they are from Germany… Hm… However, they’re NOT stifled at all. They are exactly the opposite. They are crazy and very high energy. IMO not the best situation to start with because they are unpredictable. In the meantime another blonde girl I knew from before walks by a few times. One time I just stop her and shoot the shit with her. She’s comfortable with proximity. However, I don’t really push it since the other girls are standing next to me too. Because I don’t know what to do else I go for the number half-assly. After 30min I eject from the German set to check out other girls. Naturalito continues to engage both of them.

Open another 2set at the bar (2 blondes). Zonk wings me. They are stifled but whatever… I don’t really want them but since they’re leaving and I’m already in the set for 20min I get the number of one of them. Let’s see how this turns out. Would fuck her once I guess haha.

Then it’s time to get back into the German 2 set. Shooting the shit some more. Zonk and Dyna are already gone. Lead my blonde German away to check something out. Good group dynamics. BUT the girls are still crazy. I can not predict how they would behave during the pull. However, I just assume it! Initiate the afterparty plotline. Good vibing. At a later point they’re about to eye code if they’re down for the pull. Cannot really figure out what the result of that is. A few minutes later they’re about to get their jackets on and say bye. I’m a little paralyzed. Naturalito is like “fuck it, I’m not going to follow them”. Then I get my awareness back and the first thing that pops into my mind is “4 TIMES FOR THE WIN”. Of course, maybe it’s just a shit test. If I don’t try I will never know if this was just a shit test and I wasted 2 hours for nothing…

Don’t find them. Go out of the bar. No sign. Since we’re still motivated we go back into the bar. There they are waiting for a Käsekrainer sausage haha. Reapproach them but they’re stifled now and not talkative. WTF… Try again. Nogo. Fucking Germans! We call it a night.

Conclusion:
-The German set was unpredictable from the get go. If girls are high energy from the get go that’s always uncertain how it’s going to turn out. Somehow stifled girls are better because there it’s “just” a matter of time whereas in the crazy high energy case you never know if they’re just playing or not…

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Saturday Day:
Hang out a little with Naturalito talking about the latest developments and Alexander~s style. He questions everything. Good stuff because almost everyone just bought into it. This makes it possible for myself to check if it really makes sense to me as a whole.

Didn’t do daygame for quite a long time. Reason: For shit to be solid you simply need time. I don’t have the time because I have plenty of other things to do and daygame is not really different to nightgame anymore. So not really motivated to do it.

However, while buying some stuff in the supermarket I see a girl standing next to me. Just open with some random shit like “should I take a bottle of milk”. Love this opener! Since I’m completely chill everything goes smooth. Introduce myself followed by me expressing a range of emotions (what else haha). Then leaving the club (äähm, supermarket) with her. If Alexander~ is right I now raised my chance of a solid number by 100 times haha. Turns out we’re living next to each other. Some more shooting the shit. Get the number. Nice.

Conclusion:
-daygame is so easy. Even though I don’t really “have the time” for it I should integrate it into my daily tasks during daytime…

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Saturday:
Meet up with Zonk and Dyna in our fav. bar. He’s late. Bump into his Romanian FB. WTF. This is not good. She’s too often in the fucking bar now and Zonk always gets paralyzed if one of his FBs is there…

However, I open a supercute blonde in a 4set. Befriend her friend. Good vibing! Turns out that she’s from Salzburg and just visiting her friend here. Shit. I’m indecisive what to do. If I go for a SNL it doesn’t matter if she’s from town. However, she’s sleeping at her friends place which fucks logistics up and amps social pressure up heavily to decide to go back to my place. I stick in the set. Isolate her from the group. No one interrupts us. Great vibing! Damnit, what should I do… I’m also thinking about visiting her in Salzburg since I’m visiting Alex- in Innsbruck regularly and Salzburg is in between Vienna and Innsbruck. Unfortunately the boys are out of sight and we didn’t clarify if, when and to which club we want to head over afterwards. This is fucked up. I decide that it would be best to get the number and meet her in Salzburg. A word and a blow! Get the number and go back to the boys.

As soon as I’m back at the boys I questioning my decision… Was this really the best move… Fuck, I don’t know. Then logistics get disastrous because another group of Zonks chode friends enter the bar. WTF!!!! Now, we have 2 (ex-) FBs of Zonk in the bar and a couple of chodes who are constantly asking us to stay and talk with them and/or want to join us in the club (waste of time…). We are working on a “plan” to finally get rid of all the chodes and FBs. Finally we decide to “just go”.

Head over to Grelle Forelle. Good quality there. Open right from the get go a girl on the dancefloor. She’s obviously enjoying my company but in the end persists to get back to her friends. Go for number. Nogo after 4 times. Fair enough!

Then I see a fucking cute brunette standing behind Zonk. OMG, this girl is sooo cute. Unfortunately Zonk is faster than me. She’s with a really fat and ugly girl. Dyna and I are talking about who is going to put out the ham and distract her aka winging haha. Fortunately it turns out that there is another chode who belongs to the group too. Dyna and I go a few meters away to talk a little bit about Alexander~s style and how it changed everything in my game. I can see Zonk losing this supercute brunette. I think it’s because he’s not really motivated after the emotional rollercoaster with 2 FBs in the bar before. WTF. Persist!

Open a brunette one on the dancefloor. She’s German. Whatever, don’t give up to finally find unstifled Germans that like to fuck. Good vibing. She’s into it. At first I’m not sure if she’s a little bit fat or not because she’s wearing this crazy “bag cloths” where you cannot see if she’s slim or not. While touching her shoulders I can sense that she’s slim. But when I touch her at the waist I “sink in”. WTF, this girl is super slim. Hooot. It’s like Tyler describes it in one of his videos where girls like to wear this in LA. Anyway, continue with good vibing. She’s here with her room mate. Finally they have to go. Try to get her to stay with me. She doesn’t even know how to get home alone. Hm, don’t persist to the bitter end. Get the number. Seems pretty solid.
Zonk calls it a night. Some more talking with Dyna. Open a hot 2set (brunette and blonde) with Dyna. My girl slowly opens up after she gives me a hard start. Haha, they don’t know my “natural persistence”. Unfortunate Dynas girl doesn’t want to continue the convo and drags the other girl away. Whatever…

Dyna asks me if it’s possible to open a girl with “brush and leave”. Of course! Open a girl on the dancefloor with “brush and leave shadow boxing”. Bam, she’s into it. However, the brush and leave has almost nothing to do with it. It’s plain and simply the vibe you give off. Like Tyler says in the Blueprint “You can open with anything”. However, I’m not into this girl. Turns out she has a BF. A few minutes later her BF joins us and gives me a drink. That’s how it’s done!

Some more sets not worth to be mentioned. We call it a night.

Conclusion:
-2 really solid longer interactions this night. Very good stuff
-I’m fucking chill almost all of the time. No need for warmup sets or getting into state. Good stuff!


Enjoy your track and I’ll talk to you next week!



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@Dynamique
yeah, being the social guy that is able to talk to everyone (not only to girls) is definitely a goal. Somehow i have to transfer the "I'm enough" from the context of girls to a more general context. Then you don't even have to think about "wasting the time of others"... However, the workplace is not the same as cold approach because you have outcome dependence per definition. You cannot do whatever you want because there's no real "abundance". By that I mean that you could get fired as opposed to just "getting blown out of a set" where you can just approach another one...

I completely got rid of my old social circle. I asked myself the question what do I really want? Comfort or Growth? Result was: GROWTH. Therefore I radically cut all chodes out of my life. I see no value in them. I'm not even thinking about if they're getting pissed at me because it doesn't matter because they're no longer a part of my reality. Sounds hard but that's how I see it (will power to the max I guess haha)... If you're open minded you will find new like-minded people pretty fast (like Zonk and myself)

It's also like coming full circle now. Now that I have the feeling that I'm enough it wouldn't really be hard to go out with chodes and approach next to them. Why? Because I'm 1. not intense (just social), and 2. I'm not doing anything wrong when I approach (I'm enough)

Cheers!
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Cool stuff !
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-finally I find some time for some comments: first: Dyna is perfect :)
-second: I think the German-Girl-Issue is done ;) From now on u will assume they are all easy going and will have no problem anymore.
-About loosing the boner: Its ok for girls: actually what comes to their mind in these situations that they think they are not hot enough for you. pretty mental but thats it. like u did, the best way is to give it some time, do something else or focus on her pleasure. then it works and its even better cause she is desperately waiting for it ;)
-props for your daygame set: "Then leaving the club (äähm, supermarket) with her.", made me lough :D

i guess its all about ejecting sets at the right moment and trade them for better girls for you now. go for the hottest! otherwise i dont see where your sticking point is right now :D
cool explanations, brings me forward.
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I haven't seen you so indecisive regarding a set for a long time. SNL was the only one right answer to the question what to do.
The chance to really get a day2 with her in Salzburg is very small. As it can last a couple of weeks or mounth till you agree on a day2. And normally it's very difficult to agree on a day2 after such a long time.
But she was very hot! ;)
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[=1.3em]However, I open a supercute blonde in a 4set. Befriend her friend. Good vibing! Turns out that she’s from Salzburg and just visiting her friend here. Shit. I’m indecisive what to do. If I go for a SNL it doesn’t matter if she’s from town. However, she’s sleeping at her friends place which fucks logistics up and amps social pressure up heavily to decide to go back to my place. I stick in the set. Isolate her from the group. No one interrupts us. Great vibing! Damnit, what should I do… I’m also thinking about visiting her in Salzburg since I’m visiting Alex- in Innsbruck regularly and Salzburg is in between Vienna and Innsbruck. Unfortunately the boys are out of sight and we didn’t clarify if, when and to which club we want to head over afterwards. This is fucked up. I decide that it would be best to get the number and meet her in Salzburg. A word and a blow! Get the number and go back to the boys.[/]
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@Boum Boum
haha, be sure to check out my upcoming week. nice stuff happened wink

@Dyna
yes, I went through the fucking supermarket doorframe with her wink
yeah, German issue is done (more about that in my upcoming FR)
regarding the boner thing: I'm obviously still not fully in the alpha headspace. of course the girls I fuck have this perception that I'm the fucking alpha and therefore they rationalize that it's her fault because she's not hot enough or doing something wrong. this stuff is sick!

@Zonk
Fair enough!

haha, yeah I was shocked about my indecisiveness too...

you never know what happens... on the other hand I fucked my first German hottie in Austria because I ejected from this set (more about this in my next FR). Otherwise I would never headed over to Grelle Forelle where I opened her... luckily it was the right choice because a hot fuck buddy more is better than a SNL! however, this doesn't really help me in the decision process in the future because it was more good luck as something that you can recreate...
the blonde from Salzburg is still pretty responsive via text. so let's see how this turns out...

Cheers!
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