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May 23rd, 2013
What the hell are you supposed to talk about?
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Rattlebone

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Join Date: 04/08/2012 | Posts: 136

I get that you should just be expressing yourself, having a good time, and the rest will flow naturally;
that it's not about "the right thing to say to make her like you." Still, I find myself at a loss. I mean, you
DO have to be engaging at the very least, right?

What the hell are you supposed to talk about when you approach? I see some guys walking up and
saying something in the girl's ear, and then they instantly get into this back-and-forth. What could they be
 saying? How do I do that too?
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Hotdog

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Anything...

Talk about what your passionate about, what you did today, your favorite football team, the shape of strawberries, fruit and sex, political sex scandals, masterbation, mr potatoehead, the best way to clean a toilet seat, growing tropical fruit, fucking old people. It doesnt have to be interesting just talk about the journey to work.

As long as you speak slowly, sexually, eye contact correct tonality it literally does not matter...in fact the better your game the less she even listens to what your saying she just likes the way you are saying it.
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Rattlebone

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 Feel free to give me a reality adjustment if I'm not getting this.

I understand what you're saying, and I can picture doing this after I've "opened." Basically, you mean I should just say
whatever comes to mind. The words are not the important thing. But what about the very first thing I say? I sometimes
see other guys open a girl and she immediately turns, instantly engaged. It doesn't happen always, but I've seen it.

My problem is that unless I have some situational observation (a tattoo or something otherwise physical about her),
I don't know what to say.

I know I'm missing something here.

PS. Hadn't seen that Wilde quote. Nice one. 
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Hotdog

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Hey Im Joe, you look fun/interesting/adhd/psycotic

Hey Im Joe, and you are.........

Hey.......(say nothing just stare/smirk)

Hey...I like rechargeable batteries



The biggest killer is thinking you need a logical reason to speak to her, she knows why your there, for the same reason she is....to fuck.
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icewahine

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ANYTHING!

I once talked about drum loops and 909 presets to a girl who doesn't even like electronic music. I got so wrapped up in what I was saying and thinking about I wasn't even making eye contact or even awknowledging another person there. But it turns out my passion about the subject turned her on because when I finished my rant/speech I turned over at her and she had the most sultry puppy dog eyes ever.

Ozzies book the physical game has a good write of what to say. Once you get over it you'll never look back.
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Rattlebone

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This is not to be taken as negativity, I'm just anticipating that I will have a problem with this. From my meager
experiences so far, approaching these girls and saying anything that is not considered a plausible reason to talk to
them will just make them stare at you and turn away, or just ignore you cold. Yeah, I realize it's my whole delivery, inner
game and the rest. This is just what I'm trying to figure out about all the more advanced guys here, how do you make
these WORK? For me right now, this is like some kind of mystical thing.

Dude, how?

If I tell a girl "hey" and just smirk, unless she's already attracted to me just 'cause I happen to be her type or
something, she won't give a shit. I'm pretty goddamn sure of it. Taking a cue from you, icewahine, if I start talking
about how fucking cool the Yngwie model guitar is, but how it's hard to play 'cause the frets are actually scalloped,
which means you must really press very lightly, I probably won't get past the first few words. She'll just turn around
and give her friend a look like, "This fucking guy, is he gone yet? Shit, I can't believe he's talking to me."

Some girls are friendly, sure. But most are the way I described above. And I fully realize that this is MY approach that
creates this effect (in most cases, anyway), but... to hear that you guys use these and that they work for you on a fairly
consistent basis, is like dreamland to me right now, man. I go there, I try to have a good fucking time, I don't lean or
hover or leer or value-scan, but I guess I'm just still not doing it right.

Anyway. This really did answer it, and I will work with this from now on. Just install in my brain, and next time go out
and talk about whatever it is that I care about. No more situational excuses. I don't need any damn excuses.
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Hotdog

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You have it backwards you think she needs to be attracted before you can act this way, but it is acting in this relaxed confident way without apology that causes the attraction.


This is just a question of lacking belief because you believe you are cut from different cloth. You are not, there is no magic anyone uses or anything mystical you cannot learn.

If you cannot summon the strength to blow through 100 sets opening like this till you start to see it working you probably need a bootcamp or hotseat to smash your self limiting beliefs.

GL
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Gayhipstersex

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 There are many lessons to be learned by watching The Karate Kid.

Wax on, wax off, daniel-san.

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Rattlebone

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Hotdog and Gayhipstersex, I got a real kick out of how you both said the same exact thing in entirely different ways! Hahaha... I needed the laugh.
Hotdog wrote:
You have it backwards you think she needs to be attracted before you can act this way, but it is acting in this relaxed confident way without apology that causes the attraction.


This is just a question of lacking belief because you believe you are cut from different cloth. You are not, there is no magic anyone uses or anything mystical you cannot learn.

If you cannot summon the strength to blow through 100 sets opening like this till you start to see it working you probably need a bootcamp or hotseat to smash your self limiting beliefs.
I thank you wholeheartedly, man. Your words hit me where I'm living in this moment, especially the second line. I feel like my head just go screwed back on a little tighter.
I do plan on taking the Hot Seat in February. In the meanwhile, I'm just going to go and do this one hundred times until it becomes my truth, because if it is real for others,
it can also become real for me.

Respect and gratitude.


By the way, this is what I love about RSD. I don't need to convince myself the concepts "work." I truly believe they do. I just need to learn how to make them part of me,
because intellectual belief and emotional belief are two very different things. This is harder but has a bigger reward, 'cause it's about core change, not memorizing
some schtick.
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Gayhipstersex

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Hahahah yep. "WTF MISTER MIYAGI WHY I GATTA WASH YO CAR"

This is just one of those things you have to experience. It's not easy. The phrase "plowing through" is thrown around a lot. As much as we have to do it with women, I think there's a lot of value in taking the same frame with yourself internally. Plow through your self-limiting beliefs and actions.
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mikevick07

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walk up talking to YOURSELF even if its negative then bring her into it...it might seem weird but it works
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