THE FORUMS
Looking back on last night, there are a couple of things that I'm going to make a point of implementing. Even though things went well with HB7, I should have done more approaches overall for the night, and for the approaches I did, I should have opened harder in some cases and overall shouldn't have been approaching with the wrong mindset of I need to keep attention or impress or something instead of just acting through my own intentions. I'm still feeling out that frame of strong direct approach game and I will make sure I remember to approach with full intent from now on instead of just opening tactlessly. i feel like its starting to click but going out for the next two weeks is going to be a bit of a hassle since finals are coming up. I'll try to go out every friday and saturday night and start daygaming regularly to start to warm up my headspace for my 30-90 day challenge over the summer. I'm looking to find a solid wingman at the Washington hotseat thats down to sarge everyday but idk how likely that is to happen. Sooooo fucking pumped for the Hotseat.
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Didn't do any approaches today. I texted HB7 over to my place and since I was sober this time I was able to think more clearly and plowed through resistance pretty easily. The difference was that last time when she said she should probably leave a bunch of times I was like ok finally half out of exasperation and have out of thinking it maybe just wansn't going to happen, maybe she really is celibate hahah. I didn't make that mistake this time. I physically picked her up and brought her to my bed and escalated more slowly and smoothly this time till she was so wet she couldnt resist instead of just going from making out to fucking dropping my pants immediately (im exaggerating but you get the idea). First lay in a while, but my general mood about pu hasn't really changed at all. I thought I'd start feeling like a grandiose sense of entitlement after and ride the nimbus into my later cold approaches or something but I just feel normal. Guy from building had a thing for her and I kind of blew him out since they both met first and went on a date or something. I kind of feel bad about that but it was a good reference experience to see my game to her parallel his game to her, and recognize some of my older bad game habits in what he was doing. Tomorrow I'm going to do some day game approaches and see what happens.
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Did no approaches yesterday, but I understand abundance mindset/entitlement now, and I'm starting to trust myself and feel my "pu consciousness" rising. I think part of it is just its fucking nice as hell outside and it makes me feel more happy and outgoing. Today, I approached 2 girls smoking huka outside of my building and made conversation, no AA, no nervousness, we just talked and I number closed one of them. The other one seemed bitchy at first but i saw her shaking a little and I realized she was just nervous cause I'm a sexy fucker. At one point I was like hmm should I be trying to escalate physically right now but I wasn't feeling like it and just kinda chilled and vibed. Not quite sure if I hooked strong enough, but I'll text the one and see whats up with that she seemed into me. In the back of my mind I was kinda thinking if this goes wrong I can just call over HB7 tonight and she'll give me head anyways, so fuck it. One approach in 2 days isn't exactly knocking down walls and shit but I'm making consistent progress in my game cause I'm being smart about learning it.
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I'm not gaming this week. Its finals week and I'm behind in my classes, I have some hardcore studying to do. I'll resume posting after the Hotseat I'm going to in a week
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I had a pretty bad night tonight. I convinced myself to go out even though I should be studying cause I felt super in state out of nowhere and got anxious to go out. I ended up going to a couple of dead parties with only a few girls there. The lack of girls made me feel more pressure cause if I fucked up with one, I felt like there were only so many i could talk to. Opened a couple of times weak, got blew out, just one of those bad nights. I'm not really in that bad of a mood, just dissapointed that I didn't perform knowing that I felt like I was gonna beast tongiht but it didn't happen. Seeing as I've dug myself into an even deeper studying hole by wasting time, I'm going to cut this loss and seriously just focus on studying and knocking my finals down till the hotseat.
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At least you went out bro, gjdm.
I had a pretty bad night tonight. I convinced myself to go out even though I should be studying cause I felt super in state out of nowhere and got anxious to go out. I ended up going to a couple of dead parties with only a few girls there. The lack of girls made me feel more pressure cause if I fucked up with one, I felt like there were only so many i could talk to. Opened a couple of times weak, got blew out, just one of those bad nights. I'm not really in that bad of a mood, just dissapointed that I didn't perform knowing that I felt like I was gonna beast tongiht but it didn't happen. Seeing as I've dug myself into an even deeper studying hole by wasting time, I'm going to cut this loss and seriously just focus on studying and knocking my finals down till the hotseat.
Day 2'd chick from huka, she texted me and brought her huka over to my place, we smoked and talked. She asks me if I want to watch netflix, I say we should go to her room. When we get up there, i tell her to close her eyes when were on the couch and start making out with her. She stops me and says something about a guys shes been talking to and I just kinda nod and give her strong eye contact and start making out with her again. She wasnt a good kisser, just kinda repeating the same motion over and over and it annoyed me so I said I have to go study and I left. Also I wasn't that attracted to her or feel any chemistry, I just kinda did it for the fuck of it and because HB7 isn't around right now. It is sunday night and I havent done any studying whatsoever and to top it off I feel awkward now from what just happened. I'm going to just be friends with her and work her social circle next semester, her friends look pretty hot from her facebook.
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So I went to the Hotseat like 2 weeks ago, its just like it was advertised to be, a lot of value for a very reasonable price. Some of the major things that stuck out to me: watching natural game enough to the point that i leared to be able to identify with the mindset of free expression and freedom from intent when talking to a girl, you can basically say whatever the fuck you want, as long as it is coming from the right place. I mean literally man, I remember laughing pretty hard when I saw Tyler open a girl in the club with "How do you like it? Dance". funny stuff, really reinforced the free expression thing the idea that you dont have to be fucking james bond to get the girl, you can just have solid subcommunication and talk normally without speaking or behaving ina low value way and you will build attraction just by virtue of being the opposite sex, some interesting motivational thoughts on self development and the realization of ones potential. It really put into perspective how society implicitly gives everybody the ok to be lazy rationalizing fucks. I liked this line: you can either be the boss and get all the girls or be a follow and get the collateral damage. The importance of strong eye contact and the explanation of the anime eyes to be able to read if a girl legit wants you to back off , importance of full intent, explanation of momentum and how it works, just the basic RSD principles also included but supplemented with vids to really hammer it in. I remember watching the julien vids and thinking fuck man, this is it, very impressive pulls and gaming. ANyway, that was a lot of fun, definetely I've been holding myself to the feild is king thing a lot more lately more than in the past, hitting up the mall to day game. I've made the decision that I want to become really good at this after the Hotseat. I, 19 and I have plenty of time to act like a dumbass, its summer now and we'll see what happens, i found a couple of wings and I've been going out. Ok heres my feild report from the club I went to last night.
I open some chick in front of her house and try to bum a cigarette off her, I drag that our for like another 10 secs and just talk shit since I havent really talked all day, then i get on the metro and get to the club. I'm standing outside in line, chick turns around and looks at me twice giving me the inviting talk to me look and after 10 seconds I open her with some question that I dont remember and she smiled a shrugged. I get inside and my wing is there, he seems chill as fuck and the place is still filling up. We stand in the middle of the dancefloor and talk about shit, I start kinda pumping my state cause it feels good to be out. I go to take a piss and he opened a 2 set of a cute asian chick and her ug friend. I go in and kinda take over the set and he walks away. I tell cute chick she should dance with me, i get physical and hug her, i tease them for being shy then say they should both come dance with me since they dont want to leave each other. this goes on for a bit then i eject after they say well come dance in a couple of minutes.
I go to the bathroom again and pretend to piss while i try to clear my head, i feel myself slipping into a negative headspace cause I don't know anybody else at the club cept wing. I go back out and wing tosses me into a 2 set of two european girls by grabbing me and saying this is name, i think they were bosnian or something. they were the hottest girls in the club in his opionion, I go in feeling good but that immediately deflates, i let myself become outcome dependant cause i wasnt consciously managing my consciousness.
Him: this is my friend
Me: strong eye contact and body language, confident smile: Hi, whats your name
Her: response, seems into me
Me: nice to meet you. in my head: ok now were standing here now what was that thing julien did in that vid in the hotseatt? fuck i cant remember ok regular rapport questions
Awkward silence.... not in a good sexual tension way. like in a ... kind of way
Me: ...hows it going
Her: ok, kinda gives me a weird look for a second
Me: thats cool. wanna dance? no? k im gonna go dance nice to meet you
Then, in like a split second in my head im like fuck this open first one you see no thoughts just boom and before i give my chance to think bad stuff before opening, i open the first girl i see when i turn around. shes a really cute girl with big boobs, i open with "hi im name" handshake and I can see from her reaction that she is kinda retreating a bit, i kinda opened weak. wing comes over energetic as fuck and shakes her hand also and claws her and the three of us kinda talk and laugh for like 15 seconds. he ejects without saying anything (or maybe i didnt hear over the music) and idk maybe he pumped her buying temperature or something cause she was immediately receptive to me after that, my subs were def on point, I pulled her in close and started dancing with her. She keeps turning around to talk to me while we dance and the illogical-ness of her doing this is killing my grind boner. btw that dude was a perfect fucking wing the whole time? it didnt even seem like he was doing his own sets it was like he was always there backing me up, fucking solid wing lol. it was kinda weird how on point he was. He walks up and is like i gotta go, he only stayed for an hour cause the metro closes at 12 on weekdays and that was his only way home. I decide to stay longer and take the bus later.
Me: what the fuck just turn around so we can talk haha
Her: haha ok
Me: who are you here with
Her:these guys and girls, points to half of the club, they are all friends, i ask her to introduce me to her female friends, she takes me around and does that.
Me: pulls her in close, like 5 mins of rapport, shes a hairdresser, i tell her im studying philosophy, we joke blah blah.
Her after a while: are waters free?
Me: nah theyre like 6 dollars
Her:expressing discontent
Me: youre a girl just go up and bat your eyelids and act sexy theyll give you free water
Her:laughing im gonna go try that
It gets kinda fuzzy after this, I'll put this back together as best as i can
Im dancing in a circle with her social group, having fun and shit, they pushed me into the middle and i danced, i got out and she came back.
Me: pulling her in, sensing how comfortable she is with me beign physical with her, I say some funny random stuff then im like close your eyes
Her: whY
me: jus do it
Me: kisses her
Her: kisses back for half a second then pulls back and is like noooo haha i dont kiss random guys at the club.
Me: i hate you
Her: whyyyy
Me: cause you wont kiss me back i thought we were best friends
Her: i just dont kiss guys at clubs
Me: now im sad. can i at least have a kiss on the cheek
Her: goes in to kiss me on the cheek and I quickly turn and kiss her lips
She gets not mad but looked like i give up and runs away to dance with her friends
I open 2-3 chicks by trying to dance with them and fail.
In my mind: I DONT FUCKING CARE IM SEXY AS FUCK, go back to the circle dance and dance some more, im enjoying myself and not taking this seriously, I notice that and it makes me feel even more at ease. I go to the bathroom and buy a cig off the door attendant, go up and smoke. I open one of the chicks from the social group. shes talking to this super flamboyant gay dude
Me: i like your thing, she was wearing a dress with holes in it and motion to the general area where the holes are
Her: thanks
Me: where are you from
Her: something, i couldnt hear, i ask her again and after she answers she walks away. again, i didnt give a shit, felt totally centered
I talk to a dude whose also smoking and ask him about the good spots in nihgtlife for under 21 people, go back in when my cig is done. I dance and see cute chick i tried to kiss, pull her in and she pulls off and says nooo and walks away to dance with friends but shes smiling.
I dance with one of her other hb7 friends for like 15 mis with me hands on her hips then she grabs my hands and pulls them into her body hard. I twirl her around and we grind dance face to face, shes giving me massive anime eyes and im like whats your name
Her: kristal
Me: i love you
Her: its very hard to read her reaction she seems confused and amused but stil anime eyes
Me: close your eyes
Her: just looks at me, but still intense anime eyes
Me in my head: what the fuck... i dont know what to do now
Me: did you hear me
Her: shakes her head no
Me: close your eyes:
Her:she just looks at me with a dopey, happy look on her face without saying anythign and she still has anime eyes
Me: can you hear me
Her: she just looks at me and i dont think shes listening or else shes just ignoring me, but has the anime eyes
Me, again cause im brain farting and confused: close your eyes
Her, still anime eyes, but one of her social group has been watching and pulls her away even though she was anime eyes the whole time
I feel like a fucking creep and my state goes ttttbbbbtthhhhhh
random chode guy: dude whats your name?
Me: name
CHode: dude i saw you with that chick lol. she totally wants you. whered she go?
Me: shrugs shoulders
Chode: she totally wants to fuck you offers me fistbump
Me:fistbumps, dances by self but feels stiff and awkward, looks for chick to dance with and sees asian girl
I go caveman her tell her ug friend im stealing her, she ended up actually having a bf even though they both seemed to be digging me, i eject
See first girl that i kissed and ask her if were still cool and that i was just fucking around, she says its ok but immediately dissapears and im like fuck i want to number close her and leave cause im starting to feel like shit, no other girls are opening up and the other ones are giving me funny looks.
I start to leave, bump into some girl who spills her drink on me, she is drunk and grabs me, fun back and forth teasing, she says i should buy her a drink but im not even 21, we go back and forth till i look closer and see that she is older and kinda fat, and her makeup is covering up bad skin and my balls shrink. i dont feel that bad liek super out of state but i feel as though there is nothing left so i try to open a couple more girls by dancing and leave. Overall i stayed like an hour and a half
Pros:
good reference experience for what i need to work on: clarity of thought and expression definitely, and intent, and not being a fucking pussy, take the makeout window
im happy with this overall. the last time i went to a club i failed so badly i went into a profound existential crisis. jk but it was pretty fuckin bad. gradual improvement, right?
My inner game is more solid
Cons:
girl i briefly kissed was an attractive, nice girl and i feel as though i could have easily number closed her if i hadnt maybe pushed it too far without building enough comfort or maybe she just doesnt like kissing guys in clubs. kinda regret not being able to day 2 her cause i genuinely liked her
If that wasnt the fucking most obvious makeout window and instead of taking it i end up looking like a creep. pretty funny in retrospect though lol
my favorite shirt got spilled on
ok thats my field report, had to skip gaming today ive been in all day last minute writing up a final paper, ill have some day game field reports up soon. feel free to post challenges for me to do over the summer. I'll do them
I open some chick in front of her house and try to bum a cigarette off her, I drag that our for like another 10 secs and just talk shit since I havent really talked all day, then i get on the metro and get to the club. I'm standing outside in line, chick turns around and looks at me twice giving me the inviting talk to me look and after 10 seconds I open her with some question that I dont remember and she smiled a shrugged. I get inside and my wing is there, he seems chill as fuck and the place is still filling up. We stand in the middle of the dancefloor and talk about shit, I start kinda pumping my state cause it feels good to be out. I go to take a piss and he opened a 2 set of a cute asian chick and her ug friend. I go in and kinda take over the set and he walks away. I tell cute chick she should dance with me, i get physical and hug her, i tease them for being shy then say they should both come dance with me since they dont want to leave each other. this goes on for a bit then i eject after they say well come dance in a couple of minutes.
I go to the bathroom again and pretend to piss while i try to clear my head, i feel myself slipping into a negative headspace cause I don't know anybody else at the club cept wing. I go back out and wing tosses me into a 2 set of two european girls by grabbing me and saying this is name, i think they were bosnian or something. they were the hottest girls in the club in his opionion, I go in feeling good but that immediately deflates, i let myself become outcome dependant cause i wasnt consciously managing my consciousness.
Him: this is my friend
Me: strong eye contact and body language, confident smile: Hi, whats your name
Her: response, seems into me
Me: nice to meet you. in my head: ok now were standing here now what was that thing julien did in that vid in the hotseatt? fuck i cant remember ok regular rapport questions
Awkward silence.... not in a good sexual tension way. like in a ... kind of way
Me: ...hows it going
Her: ok, kinda gives me a weird look for a second
Me: thats cool. wanna dance? no? k im gonna go dance nice to meet you
Then, in like a split second in my head im like fuck this open first one you see no thoughts just boom and before i give my chance to think bad stuff before opening, i open the first girl i see when i turn around. shes a really cute girl with big boobs, i open with "hi im name" handshake and I can see from her reaction that she is kinda retreating a bit, i kinda opened weak. wing comes over energetic as fuck and shakes her hand also and claws her and the three of us kinda talk and laugh for like 15 seconds. he ejects without saying anything (or maybe i didnt hear over the music) and idk maybe he pumped her buying temperature or something cause she was immediately receptive to me after that, my subs were def on point, I pulled her in close and started dancing with her. She keeps turning around to talk to me while we dance and the illogical-ness of her doing this is killing my grind boner. btw that dude was a perfect fucking wing the whole time? it didnt even seem like he was doing his own sets it was like he was always there backing me up, fucking solid wing lol. it was kinda weird how on point he was. He walks up and is like i gotta go, he only stayed for an hour cause the metro closes at 12 on weekdays and that was his only way home. I decide to stay longer and take the bus later.
Me: what the fuck just turn around so we can talk haha
Her: haha ok
Me: who are you here with
Her:these guys and girls, points to half of the club, they are all friends, i ask her to introduce me to her female friends, she takes me around and does that.
Me: pulls her in close, like 5 mins of rapport, shes a hairdresser, i tell her im studying philosophy, we joke blah blah.
Her after a while: are waters free?
Me: nah theyre like 6 dollars
Her:expressing discontent
Me: youre a girl just go up and bat your eyelids and act sexy theyll give you free water
Her:laughing im gonna go try that
It gets kinda fuzzy after this, I'll put this back together as best as i can
Im dancing in a circle with her social group, having fun and shit, they pushed me into the middle and i danced, i got out and she came back.
Me: pulling her in, sensing how comfortable she is with me beign physical with her, I say some funny random stuff then im like close your eyes
Her: whY
me: jus do it
Me: kisses her
Her: kisses back for half a second then pulls back and is like noooo haha i dont kiss random guys at the club.
Me: i hate you
Her: whyyyy
Me: cause you wont kiss me back i thought we were best friends
Her: i just dont kiss guys at clubs
Me: now im sad. can i at least have a kiss on the cheek
Her: goes in to kiss me on the cheek and I quickly turn and kiss her lips
She gets not mad but looked like i give up and runs away to dance with her friends
I open 2-3 chicks by trying to dance with them and fail.
In my mind: I DONT FUCKING CARE IM SEXY AS FUCK, go back to the circle dance and dance some more, im enjoying myself and not taking this seriously, I notice that and it makes me feel even more at ease. I go to the bathroom and buy a cig off the door attendant, go up and smoke. I open one of the chicks from the social group. shes talking to this super flamboyant gay dude
Me: i like your thing, she was wearing a dress with holes in it and motion to the general area where the holes are
Her: thanks
Me: where are you from
Her: something, i couldnt hear, i ask her again and after she answers she walks away. again, i didnt give a shit, felt totally centered
I talk to a dude whose also smoking and ask him about the good spots in nihgtlife for under 21 people, go back in when my cig is done. I dance and see cute chick i tried to kiss, pull her in and she pulls off and says nooo and walks away to dance with friends but shes smiling.
I dance with one of her other hb7 friends for like 15 mis with me hands on her hips then she grabs my hands and pulls them into her body hard. I twirl her around and we grind dance face to face, shes giving me massive anime eyes and im like whats your name
Her: kristal
Me: i love you
Her: its very hard to read her reaction she seems confused and amused but stil anime eyes
Me: close your eyes
Her: just looks at me, but still intense anime eyes
Me in my head: what the fuck... i dont know what to do now
Me: did you hear me
Her: shakes her head no
Me: close your eyes:
Her:she just looks at me with a dopey, happy look on her face without saying anythign and she still has anime eyes
Me: can you hear me
Her: she just looks at me and i dont think shes listening or else shes just ignoring me, but has the anime eyes
Me, again cause im brain farting and confused: close your eyes
Her, still anime eyes, but one of her social group has been watching and pulls her away even though she was anime eyes the whole time
I feel like a fucking creep and my state goes ttttbbbbtthhhhhh
random chode guy: dude whats your name?
Me: name
CHode: dude i saw you with that chick lol. she totally wants you. whered she go?
Me: shrugs shoulders
Chode: she totally wants to fuck you offers me fistbump
Me:fistbumps, dances by self but feels stiff and awkward, looks for chick to dance with and sees asian girl
I go caveman her tell her ug friend im stealing her, she ended up actually having a bf even though they both seemed to be digging me, i eject
See first girl that i kissed and ask her if were still cool and that i was just fucking around, she says its ok but immediately dissapears and im like fuck i want to number close her and leave cause im starting to feel like shit, no other girls are opening up and the other ones are giving me funny looks.
I start to leave, bump into some girl who spills her drink on me, she is drunk and grabs me, fun back and forth teasing, she says i should buy her a drink but im not even 21, we go back and forth till i look closer and see that she is older and kinda fat, and her makeup is covering up bad skin and my balls shrink. i dont feel that bad liek super out of state but i feel as though there is nothing left so i try to open a couple more girls by dancing and leave. Overall i stayed like an hour and a half
Pros:
good reference experience for what i need to work on: clarity of thought and expression definitely, and intent, and not being a fucking pussy, take the makeout window
im happy with this overall. the last time i went to a club i failed so badly i went into a profound existential crisis. jk but it was pretty fuckin bad. gradual improvement, right?
My inner game is more solid
Cons:
girl i briefly kissed was an attractive, nice girl and i feel as though i could have easily number closed her if i hadnt maybe pushed it too far without building enough comfort or maybe she just doesnt like kissing guys in clubs. kinda regret not being able to day 2 her cause i genuinely liked her
If that wasnt the fucking most obvious makeout window and instead of taking it i end up looking like a creep. pretty funny in retrospect though lol
my favorite shirt got spilled on
ok thats my field report, had to skip gaming today ive been in all day last minute writing up a final paper, ill have some day game field reports up soon. feel free to post challenges for me to do over the summer. I'll do them
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In retrospect I was being a bit to gamish and not natural enough, its something i've had a problem with in the past a lot. I need to be more expressive and in alignment with my own intentions instead of trying to rely on tactics to get a good reaction, ill make sure i get my headspace right before I go out tomorrow
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Join Date: 04/08/2012 | Posts: 107
I'm going to write my field report for what happened tonight and continue posting these for a while.
I hear about a party, call aquaintance in same building as me to see if he wants to go with me. He says yes but he's with a girl, and asks if she can come. I say yes, he says come to his room.
I skim rsd articles for like 10 mins then grab my drink and go to the room. I get to the room and hang out with them, hes with an HB7 and we're all talking and pregaming for a while. I flirt with HB7 a little and we leave to go to HB7's friends house. We play beer pong for a little and go to the party. The party isn't that great, its just a packed basement with a bunch of people in it dancing and a couple of people upstairs. I just went behind a couple of girls and started dancing and they would be into it for a while then it would just stale out and they would stop dancing with me after a while. I have no fucking idea how to escalate dancefloor game, I felt kind of dumb for just dancing with girls and not escalating, but I didn't know how to do it comfortably. I get outside, friend from building is outside and he says they are leaving, I see another party across the backyard fence and say we should try to get into that one. I get us in for free by talking to the owners, and it ends up being a pretty good house party. The whole night my cold approach was pretty shit, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not sure what was up with that. Some of then opened really well but I'd inevitably feel myself slowing going into my head and would eventually or immediately stale out. I had developed a pretty good thing with HB7, escalating physically and made sure the whole time that I was relating to her sexually as a man to a chick and not as a friend to a friend, which has been a problem for me in the past. Basically when we get back to the building to friend from building's room and leave when he says he's tired, I find out from her that friend from building asked her out to dinner or some other chode shit and she is really into me, we smoke a cig, she comes up to my room, i escalate, and we are in my bed about to fuck and she is giving me massive resistance. Literally I'm on top of her making out and fingering and she's like nooo, keep going but nooo. I try to plow through it but she told me she is celibate till she meets the right guy earlier and was holding herself to that, even though we were so, so close to fucking. She is really into me, and basically says she wants to have sex later after we hang out more and she knows I'm not just trying to fuck her. I was kinda dissapointed but I understand where she's coming from. Overall, i really enjoyed myself tonight and I'm starting to hammer in the self amusement and acting through own intentions stuff but my cold approach was so shit and that was pretty dissapointing. Looking forward to the Hotseat haha.