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December 10th, 2016
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young

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Join Date: 04/05/2012 | Posts: 242

Picking up where I left off.

Cliffs:
- I grew up in the midwest as a vanilla white boy doing vanilla things.
- First learned about game in 2012 while living in Boston.
- In 2014, I quit my job to work for myself and travel the world, focus on growth, business, and pickup. 

Currently in Asia.
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 Friday - 4/7/12

Walking out of the liquor store with a case of Keys. I'm sober but in a great mood so I'm singing when I hear WHAT? Two girls. One is SOOO HOT. HB9. Told them I was a karaoke champ in high school. She said I have a great voice (I can't sing worth shit). HB9 is loving me... 2 minutes of flirting and she's talking about ANAL SEX... WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK. SAYS SHES A VIRGIN. They're 19 and trying to get a bum to buy them booze. I buy them tequila. Pretend run away with their tequila they chase me. THEY LIVE A SHORT WALK AWAY and just offer this information without question. What do I do? "HAVE A FUN NIGHT GIRLS." lol. Just lol. In my defense, the friend was a hipsterbitch and was in a foul mood that HB9 was loving me. On second thought, HBhipsterbitch complimented my industrial... she wasn't even being a bitch. SHE LOVED ME TOO. HAHAHAHHAHA. Whatever I'm learning. How many guys have the balls to hit on gorgeous girls on the sidewalk? I DO.

At Barley Hall--approached a lot of girls. 90% of dudes choding and value scanning. Girls are cute and just doing the pretend-texting. What's a good opener for this?

Memorables:
Girl with nose ring... haha fuck yeah. Approached her STRONG. I can see the look in their eyes now when I approach strong...it's that evaluation of, is this guy for real? Why yes HBnosering, I am fo real.
Girl who likes hip hop but not Drake. What kind of girl doesn't like Drake. Probably one who's shit in bed. Teased her for a bit. From East Bay. CALI. Fuck yeah Cali girls.

I can feel social momentum building over the past few weeks I'm getting more and more confident and expressive as I keep going out more and more. The powers that be in my brain/DNA are starting to really wake up.

LESSONS:
-use ugly girls to build momentum. have fun with them
-quiet friend doesnt mean bitchy friend. could mean the friend is attracted too
-"Either you leave or we fuck"... helps to remind my brain this in, changes the interaction
-less downtime between approaches
-don't think about pickup. just pick a plan and stick to it

Gonna play some approach challenges tonight.
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Dr Feelgood

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Sounds good! Your basic plan in your first post sounds really, really good - stick to it till you got it down!

Advantage of the nerds: They are able to make really tight and solid plans at home, ha ha..!
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 Saturday 4/8/2012

Victories
-new favorite venue
-got physical with girls
-had a fucking blast

Lessons
-getting one up on a tool is great motivation. "I'll show him"
-screen harder when I'm party

Not much approaching tonight. Had a big Easter dinner at a friend's apartment then drank after. Went as a group to Ned Devine's. First time there and I fuckin love the place. There's a lot of space to bounce between sets and the girls are hotter than most bars. Sucks that it's a $30 cab ride away but it's worth it. I was having a blast for the first couple hours not thinking about pickup at all and just letting shit flow. 

First set I opened was a girl taking pictures of her friends. I grabbed the camera and said get in the picture. She said YOU get in, it's her birthday. I jump in. Other friends get out. HBbirthday loves me. Pick her up + spin + bite on the neck is her present. Faggot bouncer comes over and tells me to relax. This as the girls are laughing their asses off. Reminds me of Tyler's bouncer story.  

Actually thinking about approaching put me in a worse mood because I was just fucking around with friends. One of the chodes we came with killed the night. He's in a serious LDR and has no inhibitions about being the dancing entertainer. Starts pulling girls to me and I push them away. Then he starts shoving me into sets. My vibe died. I ran with it though and told the girl's he's gay and he's doing this to win me over. He starts getting mad at this so I push it more for self amusement. He leaves. 

I had a "this shit really works" moment: I spilled my beer on some super hottie. She gets pissed and gets in my face. I scream GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. YOURE DONE IN THIS TOWN. GET OUT. Hardest part was not laughing as I said it. She got quiet real quick she did. Starts blabbing about how some guys are gonna come kick my ass. Then two big fuckers next to me start apologizing FOR HER. I go back to my friends laughign and HER FRIEND comes and apologizes. Haha WTF. I spilled the beer.

The light hearted fun is gone though and I'm in my head. Try building momentum with the fatties. Not working. Trapped in the approaching--is-work mindset. Girls we came with were being real cool winging and peeling me. 

Fun night.
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Thursday - 4/12/12

Victories:
-0 to 100
-burned it to the ground

Lessons:
-remember that it's always on
-remember that sets in the past always open well when I do
-less time between approaches

LR. Stay concious

Tonight was a huge breakthrough for me. I've only been learning this for a few weeks now and I have crushing SA but I just pulled a girl solo from the bar. 

I worked longer than I had to and didn't get to the gym until 9. I pushed hard in my sets though and used real2's advice of keeping naked girls in my mind for that extra rep on leg presses. When I left the gym I started humming to get my voice box moving and my voice was in that late night high zone. I called a close friend from home and we talked for half an hour. Unstifled kinda. By the time I'm dressed my SA is back and I don't want to go out. I reframe the night as "just meeting people and having fun" and the SA disappears, but I remember Ozzie's shit about a reframe isn't really facing your fears. Haven't smoked in a long time but I buy a pack to chill out. Liquor stores close super early so I'm 100% sober. Shit sucks but I go out and remember that no matter what I'm learning.

It's midnight and I'm almost to TITS in Allston and I meet a guy named Amir from Iran. Asks me for a smoke and we chat for 5 minutes. Cool guy and really cheered me up. Open 2 8s on the street on their way to TITS. Barely responsive. In the bar. Chode out on immediate approaches. Go for a beer. 3 set waiting for a beer: HB7, HB6, fatty. Dude comes up to the tall 7 all super aggressive and the set blows him out immediately. They see I'm normal and open me. Goes well for 5 minutes. I bounce between fatty and 6 because I'm too chode to game 7. Go to order beer and open a cute 7 from Panama next to me. Great vibe for 15 minutes. Her chode friend comes in super serious and fucks it up. Feeling much better. Chat up a cute black girl next to me. She's with her bf and I'm not feelin it. 

Move a bit. Making great eye contact. Rope in Courtney as she walks past. Girls do the same "walk around the bar as if with purpose" bullshit as guys... a decent smile and sexy eyes can rope them in on occasion. Vibe for 10 minutes then she leaves with a friend. Stifled. Outside for a smoke. Unstifle with some smoking buddies for 10 minutes then I'm back into the fray. AA is killing me but I make the concious effort to focus on some core concepts rather than just value scan: relaaax--I start BREATHING DEEP in the bar, it's all reference experiences, execute the program, and (somehow) evil stifler's HEY LITTLE RED GIRL. Also remembered: burn it to the ground. I only brought cash and I made the decision to spend my last bit of money on a beer so I'd either pull or have to walk 2 miles home. I start to realize that most of the guys in the bar are far more chode than me and theyr'e like FUCK BITCHES FUCK EM ALL WHO CARES. Keep breathing and smile the TD playful smile. HB7 Emma dances near me. HEY LITTLE STRIPED GIRL. YOU LOOK LIKE A ZEBRA. I'm in.

Funny thing that I think I knew in my head ever since starting this... I'm outgoing but I'm a when it comes to setting a sexual frame. Once I get there, it seems like a cakewalk. Push-pull, push-pull, sex talk/normal talk/pimp talk on and on. Her: I NEVER DO THIS. Cab to my apartment (she pays). 15 minutes of LMR calling me a player/you do this all the time don't you?... rinse and repeat freeze outs. Tada and she likes it from the behind. 2+ hours of glory times ensue. My focus is really getting this burned into my subsconcious as a WHOLE NIGHT. The victory of the pull isn't really the highlight. It's the going out alone and staying focused. Putting this in perspective: every bit of PU vocab I'm using here I learned since February so I'm proud of myself... no ego BS.

Other take homes
--"studying" game is helpful. A lot of the shit that I used tonight was somethign I'd read or learned and not because I'd felt the pain of fucking up a real experience. 
--I'm constantly analzying social interactions throughout the day. I have a cold sore and I caught someone's eyes dart at it today during a normal convo. I got really self concious at first then I thought, "haha that's your problem having to NOT look at it while we talk." Then I extrapolated that to all my flaws and I held them out tonight to make others feel that discomfort.

Meeting at 8am. God bless adderall. 
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Friday the 13th

Victories:
-> 4 approaches 
-> had some people tell me I'm a totally different person than I was a few months ago
-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ZEanjORQI

Drinks at a friend's place until 10:30. We try the new Yard House in Fenway. Place is awesome. Got there and met up with some chode coworkers. I fall into standstill mode and try a few approaches like a pussy. Responses were positive but nothing hooked.

The people we came with are also getting the lets GTFO away from the coworkers but one guy offers to buy whiskey flights across the street at Citizens. Why did we leave Yard House? It's 12:30 now and I've got a nice buzz and I'm having fun. My brain is crying for me to return to Allston but we get invited to some apartment party in Fenway. It's empty by the time we get there so we just drink more and eat their food. Went back to the first apt and watched some Trailer Park Boys until we passed out at 4. 

Small victory: Woke up today and walked to Whole Foods. I fill up on seaweed, chicken, broccoli, and mushrooms from their salad bar and berries from their breakfast bar. I did laps around the store eating more and refilling until I felt the hangover subside. As I munched on the food I was smiling at every worker I saw... some returned the smile and others looked away. It was funny because it felt like they were just getting sucked into my frame without seeing the theft. 

Lessons:
-> I need to build a social circle with people in the community
-> approach more you pussy
-> do what works
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Saturday - 4/14/12

Victories
-> doesn't matter had sex
-> free everything

LR - cabbie wing

Really is time to change my social circle to FUN people. I left work at 8 and went to the chode's house from last Saturday for some quality food and wine. Get there and it's only 5 people sitting around NOT TALKING. Fuck I try everything to get them to open up... no dice. After an hour of drinking it gets a bit better and we go to Yard House. Chode is telling me to go approach go approach. Fuck I want to kill this faggot. We bounce to An Tua Nua. We go inside but I duck back out and let them get lost in the bar. I'm determined to do what works for me. Chat up an engagement party outside for 15min. Already feeling better. I go back in and do a couple approaches at the bar. Not really strong but I'm drunk and so it's smoothish. I walk to the dance floor in the back. PACKED. I can see my friends in the middle...perfectly trapped in the web of grinding retards.

At the bar I'm just taking full beers. Not paying for shit. Do ONE quality approach the whole night. Danielle at the bar. Just said I didn't believe her name, show me your ID. Fuck around and say it's fake blah blah. Yank her to the dance floor. She's looking for her friends but wants to dance too. My intent is weak though and I let her go. Lights come on 5 minutes later.

Out on the sidewalk...I make a couple indirect approaches since all the other dudes are creeping. See Danielle. Chat for a bit. I actually just want a cab home but she walks up to the cab with me. For whatever reason I tell the cab driver I only have $7. He says no. I say fuck you. This goes on for about a minute when I realize she's still standing behind me. I turn and eye fuck the shit out of her* and she says I'LL COVER THE REST. Ha. In the cab she's like take me to Harvard Ave that's where my friends are. Cabbie says sure...then drives straight to my apartment. She pays for the ride. Grab her and and walk her up my stairs. No LMR. I fuck her twice and she moans my name for an hour. I like waking up my roommates who, until recently, had been laughing at my self-development pursuits. She gets dressed and takes a cab to her friends.

2 SNLs in one weekend. Pretty pleased. Tonight's doesn't really feel like I deserved it though. The booze makes it difficult to cement what worked well. Tiem to VISUALIZE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awo5NEA_Rvo

Lessons
-> HAVE FUN
-> "the result is anticlimatic".. the game is less scary every time I go out.
The game is also seeming weirder as I realize that some techniques just come naturally.
-> starting to realize that I'm already good with girls
-> do higher risk approaches
-> no more hanging with chodes

*I'm gonna think of my eyes as magnets that draw out anime eyes rather than lasers. Feels less creepy that way.
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Forgot to mention: in the cab, the girl calls her friends to say she's on her way after we'd passed her street. I was drunk so I didn't grab the phone or do something to chill her out but it didn't matter in the end. 

Looking back on the night I think that phone call was the funniest thing. She picks up her phone when it becomes obvious that we're going to my place. It's like, it was already ON but there was still that possibility of her going home until that point. Reminded me of something TD wrote a while back:

"There is a natural social process that occurs, which women don't want you to
know about. They want you to think that you're the one who picked them up, so
they don't have to "be responsible" for it. However, this fallacy has spawned
guys in this community to develop pickup styles that violate social practices,
in a way that isn't effective. (I violate social practices myself, but in a way
that nobody spots). That's why when you talk about hitting on girls, the girls
don't like it. But if you ask them "How *would* you like a guy to hit on you?"
they have no realistic reply. It's because they secretly know that they pickup
guys, but don't admit it publically or even to themselves."

Maybe she thought that keeping quiet when we passed her street was assuming responsibility? idk 
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Wednesday - 4/18/12

Victories:
--watched the Red Sox
--life is good

My parents are visiting for the weekend. We went to the Rangers/Sox game last night. I used a repertoire of brain melting openers such as: "excuse me, will you take a picture of me and my dad?" and "damn these hot dogs are amazing!" Given my total outcome independence, my responses were 100% positive. 

I made a few passes along the line for Bassnectar outside the House of Blues, teasing the girls in rave attire and explaining how liquid dub is something that can only be appreciated outdoors. 

Lessons:
--who cares

Tonight is most likely solo. Dinner with the fam then out to try and pull. My boss is gone this week so no Friday 8am meeting fuck yeah.
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Thursday - 4/19/12

Victories:
--drained but went out anyway
--5 approaches

Drinks/dinner/drinks with my parents then out solo to An Tua Nua at 11:30. Hanging out with my family is mentally taxing and I never switched on in da club. Girls just waiting to be yoinked. I stand there and do nothing. Few random approaches at the bar. I could've been with a soft skinned chick, instead I wasted $30 on booze and a cab and now I'm worse off today.

Lessons
--1 approach = 3 drinks. for every girl I see but don't approach, I just wasted $15
--play the whole day... gym, eat healthy, meditate
--I'm there to pull. disregard all game shit and just pull

EDIT: watching and rewatching Owen's 2hr vid. This shit is gonna be a lot easier if I can find normal guy friends that like pussy.
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Victories
--kept momentum going even with family in town
--day approach
--mixed set


Thursday - 4/19/12

Do my first daytime approach. Girl eating strawberries outside my apartment. Shit was going really well. Vibe was really relaxed and sexual. She's touching me a lot wants to come up to my apartment. My parents are ccoming in 10 minutes. Debate it for a second but just get her number and facebook. She's been texting me since so it's on.

Wine at the apartment
Met the roommates
Dinner at dank Belgian place across the street
Still have a 4 pack of Duvel unopened
Tour of work. Parents are now newbie biologists
Back to hotel at 11..
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OUT TO DA CLUB SOLO. Did I out on every approach? YES. i made it out anyway and it was fun. Had a cute girl approach me which felt good even if she was really fucking drunk. Make it to work on time barely.

The transaction: fitness/sleep loss, social momentum gain.

This would be so much easier if I had ONE LEGIT GUY FRIEND to go out with. Whatever. The buck stops with me.

"THE GAME TEACHES YOU EVERY NIGHT THAT YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY."


Friday - 4/20/12

Met with parents at Cask n Flagon across from Fenway Park to watch the Yankees/Sox. Beautiful weekend weather wise every day. We had tasty tasty pizza for dinner then went back to their hotel at 11.

Hit up TITS solo in Allston. I'm coming down from my daily addy ER and all the beers. Do one terrible approach in line then go home to my friend's apartment to get some kind of socializing. Walk home at 230.

Saturday - 4/21/12

Wake up at 9 and head out for a full day of touristy shit with my folks. We have a quick swim and sauna at their hotel at 5ish, watch the lolSox and then end up with some bomb ass Italian food and wine on Newbury St. Ben and Jerry's afterwords. Back to hotel at 11pm. 

Solo train to friend's apartment. Drink a bit. Got a good buzz going and the sugar reinvigorates the adderall. Head to TITS at 1230. First approach is a girl next to me at the bar... talk for a bit and it's going well but I don't turn it sexual and it dies. I tell her brb hold my beer so I go piss and try to chill out. Come back and blow out the dude she's dancing with. Feelsgoodman as this dude was a giant. She's not into odancing and I'm getting bored so I take my beer and move on. Next approach is a cute 2 set. They like me but I'm too much of a to push it sexual. I need to trust myself... trust that I can dive into sexuality even if it feels uncalibrated at first.

Go outside into an alley and bring up some porn on my phone. Lol at me but whatever it takes. Now I'm horny and I approach my first ever mixed set and peel away a cutie. It goes well but I go back in. Approach the first girl I see with TAP TAP TAP. She lights up and we talk for a bit. Starting to feel some state. Immediately move to a two set on the dance floor with dudes orbiting. It's like they're happy as fuck to have some guy just talk to them. Starting to realize other guys are pussies. More state. Start circling the bar and approaching. Reopen first girl. She's being boring but her friends are fun and want me to take her home. Sorry she needs to invest too.

Keep moving. Two set. Opens well. Turn to big mixed set. HEY LITTLE GIRL. Girl jumps at me and starts grinding. I spin her a bit. Fuck yeah now I have a boner. Grab her neck and go for the makeout. Denied but I do a smooth neck bite. More grinding. Makeout denial 2. More grinding. She shoves her tongue down my throat. I try leading her away from the group then she runs to her huge black friend and says YOU SHOULD MEET [huge black friend]. I leave.

Back to friend's apartment and play some drunk Mario Kart until 3:30. Wake up today at 8 and head to Sbucks and the grocery store.

Breakfast in an hour with my parents then we'll say our goodbyes.

Great weekend and I'm proud of myself for keeping the social momentum alive and still giving my best self to my parents. Need to get some real sleep though. Dreams can start to get really REALLY fucked up when I keep postponing quality REM by using drugs.

Lessons
--get back into the fitness and nutrition routine HARD. I usually don't have trouble getting turned on in the bar and I attribute this to all the processed shit and the beer from the week.
--don't be a pussy. befriend the friends
--when I knew I had my parents to hang with, I had no AA with anyone. I actually was 100% outcome independent. Same with last night... I knew there was fun back at the apt so I didnt' mind fucking around and I was way more relaxed.
--I'm already way more normal than a lot a lot of the guys at these college bars

CANNOT WAIT for the free tour to meet some guys that I can share this fun with and maybe I'll feel less and less outcome dependent if I have fun in my back pocket. 
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