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Rocco Siffredi

Rocco Siffredi

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Ten game baby, the dreamland, that's why we all got into this, right?

I'm going to reveal my version of it. Admittedly It's controversial, because it's almost complete opposite of most of the stuff you learned from Tyler.

I was putting of posting this cos I'll probably burn for it. At least personally, I would would be chopping off heads if anybody was preaching this just half a year ago.

But I'm not selling you a product, this is not something for community masses that can be packed up and sold online. Or poured into your head over the course of three days.

If you want to know more about my style of game read 60's legendary post on sexual tension and Fingerman's on gaming in natural state of mind.

I'm not sure that what I am about to share will work for you, but it's the only way I know that gives somewhat consistent pattern.

Does it mean I leave the club with a 10 every single night? Fuck no. Far from it. But if I go home with a lady it's going to be quality.

(Sometimes I go for cute face big titted bitches that got nothing else going on just because I want to drawn in that shit but I usually regret afterwards. Fully aware this sounds like boasting but if you are busy working out, maintaining diverse cash flow and trying to make the world a better place all at the same time, you value your time and going home, and likely making her part of your life, with anything else than a legit ten literally feels like waste of time and energy - sex drive in late twenties is not what it used to, bathroom pulls I'm over with, sometimes it's cool to get a blowie but that's about it, normally to enjoy myself with a lady a whole night session is required, if it's sub par she may get another chance cos they tend to relax more the second round but if I see no talent it's unlikely she's staying over or that I would take a number).

Okay enough hype, here goes the ultra simple technique for getting women of the highest quality.

First things first though, read Figerman's and 60's posts. Stop relying on state and high energy to get girls.

If you still need wings to go out, this is not for you yet.

If you still need to do warm up approaches, this is not for you yet.

The rest of you (yes both of you smile ups, sorry, bitter), read on.

Need to declare first what I mean by a ten. RSD use the term "my ten", which I like, nothing against it, but in my experience it's not you making a value judgment, it's the woman's self perceived value in that particular environment. Ozzie can explain this better than I can...

So if you roll into the most exclusive venue in town on Sat night, it's pretty much guaranteed there may be a couple of women you wound not do (depending on your standards sure), and the rest is pretty much smoking hot. And than there will be those two or three, probably at some actors or footballers table. Those two or three are likely to be in separate groups. Still with me? Know what I mean brav? Cool, here comes the deal:

STOP BEING THIS CHEESY PLAYER CHARACTER THE COMMUNITY CONDITIONED YOU TO BE!!!!

No idea what I'm talking about right? ;-) it's okay

I used to bite into this idea of "talking to everybody, being laud, big gestures, building up your state, getting momentum, dancing with all the girls, spinning, hugging, making out left and right before taking one home.

I felt like a big pimp but what it did was building up this whole player persona (mainly for my own self amusement – to this day still think it's hilarious when you're being like this) that I was inevitably conveying to women. Obviously I though it was freaking funny when a girl was giving me resistance cos I couldn't remember her name and she was accusing me of fooling around with all the other girls.

Worked wonders, until I stepped up to those super hotties. And that's when this whole player frame backfires. You better believe that this high energy flashy game will get you a lot of attention. There won't be a single person in the club (especially in tiny high-end venues with capacity 200-300) not noticing what you're doing and to some (especially super hotties) it will be blatantly obvious what you up to. When you step up to them with this player vibe, you're done before you even start. Cos here's the secret:

You may have the most pumped up state in the world when you walk up to her. She will be intrigued, but she's used to uber icey muthafukkas walking up to her every single day. Even though projecting yourself as a guy who gets laid all the times works with 8s-9s, what stunners really want is a guy WHO COULD BE GETTING LAID WITH THREE DIFFERENT GIRLS EVERY DAY BUT CHOOSES NOT TO!

(I hate to put it this way but if it helps you to wrap your head around it: it's because than the two of you are on the same level – even though a chick never logically thinks "Oh is he on my level?" she's got her little hamster brain busy dealing with all her insecurities but she feels whether you're in her league – or rather whether she's in your league - on some subconscious level).

So few practical steps to wrap it up:

1) Get into the club before midnight. Some of the top class women don't stay too long cos they have a photoshoot or flight to Milan early in the morning
2) Get in and hold yourself back, do not do anything 'gamey' apart from shooting the shit with people around and handshakes. Don't make them laugh too much, don't make them go all over you, don't get them too attracted. Don't try anything. Just chill. Take some time to scout the venue and really notice who those three dime pieces of the club are. Those are your three approaches for the night.
3) Than go in and take her. (Business as usual: split second decision, fury, flow, no agenda, grab that ass like you own it, tonality, laser eyes, dynamic kino, break rapport, run the train, burn the interaction to the ground, hand on dick, get her outside the club, cab it home, lube, butt creampie)
4) Hell if it doesn't work you can always go back to being a high energy self amusing clown before the club closes and go home with a nice chubby that has a great bubbly personality, player :-) Or go home alone and get some sleep. That's what I do wink

Alright boys, take it appart!
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smoked2much

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 Man a guy stole my 10 with 3)
I loved my 10 :(

I usually just do push and pull with no gimmicks, works, but is very in line with who I am, non gimmicky.
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Kyng7

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Butt creampie.


Really?!?!  Haha.
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smoked2much

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what chu talking about 
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Join Date: 03/31/2012 | Posts: 119

I like this, except for one thing:

I personally dislike big flashy moves and drawing attention to what I'm
Doing. Why? Because I got tired of seeing dudes who were uglier come
In and take my girls by doing almost nothing. I played it by the book
And they'd come in and leave with the girls in minutes...hardly even
Talking or anything fancy.

Let's face it. Physicality is way over-rated. There are far more powerful
Ways of getting it done. I'm learning that seeming NORMAL while
Communicating "man to woman" is more important than being all
Mister social player man. I got tired of seeing guys who didn't do
Anything special leave with 10's. Guys who wouldn't even talk to
Anyone except the girls, guys who really only did one approach
A night.

I agree with a lot of what you say. I just think that physical game and
Pick up tactics in general are not mandatory or even important. Seeming
Normal and communicating on a channel of man to woman is much
More important.
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Legend.Airy

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Dude I think you're exactly where I'm at right now..I don't know if others on the forum with less experience will get the jist of the post..I certainly identified with it..good shit
Rocco Siffredi wrote:
Ten game baby, the dreamland, that's why we all got into this, right?

I'm going to reveal my version of it. Admittedly It's controversial, because it's almost complete opposite of most of the stuff you learned from Tyler.

I was putting of posting this cos I'll probably burn for it. At least personally, I would would be chopping off heads if anybody was preaching this just half a year ago.

But I'm not selling you a product, this is not something for community masses that can be packed up and sold online. Or poured into your head over the course of three days.

If you want to know more about my style of game read 60's legendary post on sexual tension and Fingerman's on gaming in natural state of mind.

I'm not sure that what I am about to share will work for you, but it's the only way I know that gives somewhat consistent pattern.

Does it mean I leave the club with a 10 every single night? Fuck no. Far from it. But if I go home with a lady it's going to be quality.

(Sometimes I go for cute face big titted bitches that got nothing else going on just because I want to drawn in that shit but I usually regret afterwards. Fully aware this sounds like boasting but if you are busy working out, maintaining diverse cash flow and trying to make the world a better place all at the same time, you value your time and going home, and likely making her part of your life, with anything else than a legit ten literally feels like waste of time and energy - sex drive in late twenties is not what it used to, bathroom pulls I'm over with, sometimes it's cool to get a blowie but that's about it, normally to enjoy myself with a lady a whole night session is required, if it's sub par she may get another chance cos they tend to relax more the second round but if I see no talent it's unlikely she's staying over or that I would take a number).

Okay enough hype, here goes the ultra simple technique for getting women of the highest quality.

First things first though, read Figerman's and 60's posts. Stop relying on state and high energy to get girls.

If you still need wings to go out, this is not for you yet.

If you still need to do warm up approaches, this is not for you yet.

The rest of you (yes both of you smile ups, sorry, bitter), read on.

Need to declare first what I mean by a ten. RSD use the term "my ten", which I like, nothing against it, but in my experience it's not you making a value judgment, it's the woman's self perceived value in that particular environment. Ozzie can explain this better than I can...

So if you roll into the most exclusive venue in town on Sat night, it's pretty much guaranteed there may be a couple of women you wound not do (depending on your standards sure), and the rest is pretty much smoking hot. And than there will be those two or three, probably at some actors or footballers table. Those two or three are likely to be in separate groups. Still with me? Know what I mean brav? Cool, here comes the deal:

STOP BEING THIS CHEESY PLAYER CHARACTER THE COMMUNITY CONDITIONED YOU TO BE!!!!

No idea what I'm talking about right? ;-) it's okay

I used to bite into this idea of "talking to everybody, being laud, big gestures, building up your state, getting momentum, dancing with all the girls, spinning, hugging, making out left and right before taking one home.

I felt like a big pimp but what it did was building up this whole player persona (mainly for my own self amusement – to this day still think it's hilarious when you're being like this) that I was inevitably conveying to women. Obviously I though it was freaking funny when a girl was giving me resistance cos I couldn't remember her name and she was accusing me of fooling around with all the other girls.

Worked wonders, until I stepped up to those super hotties. And that's when this whole player frame backfires. You better believe that this high energy flashy game will get you a lot of attention. There won't be a single person in the club (especially in tiny high-end venues with capacity 200-300) not noticing what you're doing and to some (especially super hotties) it will be blatantly obvious what you up to. When you step up to them with this player vibe, you're done before you even start. Cos here's the secret:

You may have the most pumped up state in the world when you walk up to her. She will be intrigued, but she's used to uber icey muthafukkas walking up to her every single day. Even though projecting yourself as a guy who gets laid all the times works with 8s-9s, what stunners really want is a guy WHO COULD BE GETTING LAID WITH THREE DIFFERENT GIRLS EVERY DAY BUT CHOOSES NOT TO!

(I hate to put it this way but if it helps you to wrap your head around it: it's because than the two of you are on the same level – even though a chick never logically thinks "Oh is he on my level?" she's got her little hamster brain busy dealing with all her insecurities but she feels whether you're in her league – or rather whether she's in your league - on some subconscious level).

So few practical steps to wrap it up:

1) Get into the club before midnight. Some of the top class women don't stay too long cos they have a photoshoot or flight to Milan early in the morning
2) Get in and hold yourself back, do not do anything 'gamey' apart from shooting the shit with people around and handshakes. Don't make them laugh too much, don't make them go all over you, don't get them too attracted. Don't try anything. Just chill. Take some time to scout the venue and really notice who those three dime pieces of the club are. Those are your three approaches for the night.
3) Than go in and take her. (Business as usual: split second decision, fury, flow, no agenda, grab that ass like you own it, tonality, laser eyes, dynamic kino, break rapport, run the train, burn the interaction to the ground, hand on dick, get her outside the club, cab it home, lube, butt creampie)
4) Hell if it doesn't work you can always go back to being a high energy self amusing clown before the club closes and go home with a nice chubby that has a great bubbly personality, player :-) Or go home alone and get some sleep. That's what I do wink

Alright boys, take it appart!

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alienantfarm

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I've never read a more fluffed post in my life that delivers basically nothing. Noobs will like the rah-rah of it though.
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My personal philosophy: You need to step to every single girl like a fucking bomb. You need to have presence. You need to stand out, and not in a surface level way such as what you're wearing, but as who you are and the way in which you communicate. You need to be unforgettable. You need to create a sense of urgency, that you are now or never. You need to push and at the same time be completely willing to walk away. It is essential to disidentify with the ego, otherwise the inherent rejection associated with pickup will destroy you.

"You need to let them know what kind of man you are, so they know what kind of woman to be."
"Fear is always a constant, but accepting it...makes you stronger."
"Once you done slayed 20-30 of them hoodrats, now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho."
"I've got no game. And every face looks the same. They've got no name. So I don't need game to play. I just say whatever I want to whoever I want. Whenever I want, wherever I want, however I want."
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MastahDeft

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I agree with the mindset cause Ive experienced something similar with those girls.

Peace.
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Rocco Siffredi

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Fantastic! Members like you sir make me believe in rsdn
Legend.Airy wrote:
Dude I think you're exactly where I'm at right now..I don't know if others on the forum with less experience will get the jist of the post..I certainly identified with it..good shit
Rocco Siffredi wrote:
Ten game baby, the dreamland, that's why we all got into this, right?

I'm going to reveal my version of it. Admittedly It's controversial, because it's almost complete opposite of most of the stuff you learned from Tyler.

I was putting of posting this cos I'll probably burn for it. At least personally, I would would be chopping off heads if anybody was preaching this just half a year ago.

But I'm not selling you a product, this is not something for community masses that can be packed up and sold online. Or poured into your head over the course of three days.

If you want to know more about my style of game read 60's legendary post on sexual tension and Fingerman's on gaming in natural state of mind.

I'm not sure that what I am about to share will work for you, but it's the only way I know that gives somewhat consistent pattern.

Does it mean I leave the club with a 10 every single night? Fuck no. Far from it. But if I go home with a lady it's going to be quality.

(Sometimes I go for cute face big titted bitches that got nothing else going on just because I want to drawn in that shit but I usually regret afterwards. Fully aware this sounds like boasting but if you are busy working out, maintaining diverse cash flow and trying to make the world a better place all at the same time, you value your time and going home, and likely making her part of your life, with anything else than a legit ten literally feels like waste of time and energy - sex drive in late twenties is not what it used to, bathroom pulls I'm over with, sometimes it's cool to get a blowie but that's about it, normally to enjoy myself with a lady a whole night session is required, if it's sub par she may get another chance cos they tend to relax more the second round but if I see no talent it's unlikely she's staying over or that I would take a number).

Okay enough hype, here goes the ultra simple technique for getting women of the highest quality.

First things first though, read Figerman's and 60's posts. Stop relying on state and high energy to get girls.

If you still need wings to go out, this is not for you yet.

If you still need to do warm up approaches, this is not for you yet.

The rest of you (yes both of you smile ups, sorry, bitter), read on.

Need to declare first what I mean by a ten. RSD use the term "my ten", which I like, nothing against it, but in my experience it's not you making a value judgment, it's the woman's self perceived value in that particular environment. Ozzie can explain this better than I can...

So if you roll into the most exclusive venue in town on Sat night, it's pretty much guaranteed there may be a couple of women you wound not do (depending on your standards sure), and the rest is pretty much smoking hot. And than there will be those two or three, probably at some actors or footballers table. Those two or three are likely to be in separate groups. Still with me? Know what I mean brav? Cool, here comes the deal:

STOP BEING THIS CHEESY PLAYER CHARACTER THE COMMUNITY CONDITIONED YOU TO BE!!!!

No idea what I'm talking about right? ;-) it's okay

I used to bite into this idea of "talking to everybody, being laud, big gestures, building up your state, getting momentum, dancing with all the girls, spinning, hugging, making out left and right before taking one home.

I felt like a big pimp but what it did was building up this whole player persona (mainly for my own self amusement – to this day still think it's hilarious when you're being like this) that I was inevitably conveying to women. Obviously I though it was freaking funny when a girl was giving me resistance cos I couldn't remember her name and she was accusing me of fooling around with all the other girls.

Worked wonders, until I stepped up to those super hotties. And that's when this whole player frame backfires. You better believe that this high energy flashy game will get you a lot of attention. There won't be a single person in the club (especially in tiny high-end venues with capacity 200-300) not noticing what you're doing and to some (especially super hotties) it will be blatantly obvious what you up to. When you step up to them with this player vibe, you're done before you even start. Cos here's the secret:

You may have the most pumped up state in the world when you walk up to her. She will be intrigued, but she's used to uber icey muthafukkas walking up to her every single day. Even though projecting yourself as a guy who gets laid all the times works with 8s-9s, what stunners really want is a guy WHO COULD BE GETTING LAID WITH THREE DIFFERENT GIRLS EVERY DAY BUT CHOOSES NOT TO!

(I hate to put it this way but if it helps you to wrap your head around it: it's because than the two of you are on the same level – even though a chick never logically thinks "Oh is he on my level?" she's got her little hamster brain busy dealing with all her insecurities but she feels whether you're in her league – or rather whether she's in your league - on some subconscious level).

So few practical steps to wrap it up:

1) Get into the club before midnight. Some of the top class women don't stay too long cos they have a photoshoot or flight to Milan early in the morning
2) Get in and hold yourself back, do not do anything 'gamey' apart from shooting the shit with people around and handshakes. Don't make them laugh too much, don't make them go all over you, don't get them too attracted. Don't try anything. Just chill. Take some time to scout the venue and really notice who those three dime pieces of the club are. Those are your three approaches for the night.
3) Than go in and take her. (Business as usual: split second decision, fury, flow, no agenda, grab that ass like you own it, tonality, laser eyes, dynamic kino, break rapport, run the train, burn the interaction to the ground, hand on dick, get her outside the club, cab it home, lube, butt creampie)
4) Hell if it doesn't work you can always go back to being a high energy self amusing clown before the club closes and go home with a nice chubby that has a great bubbly personality, player :-) Or go home alone and get some sleep. That's what I do wink

Alright boys, take it appart!


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Value your struggle. You don't know what you have. Once you're able to go to the most exclusive venue in town, on your own, dressed like shit, tired from work, exhausted from the gym, on Tue night... and still pull a dime piece... the game gets little boring. www.rsdnation.com/node/202332
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Rocco Siffredi

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Absolutelly right, nothing of actual value in it. Except for maybe one little idea. What the game will look like one day if people stick at it. If you're flexible and inovative enough to deviate from the pickup mainstream.

I'm looking forward reading something that will help me take my game to the next level one day Mr. Respected Member...
alienantfarm wrote:
I've never read a more fluffed post in my life that delivers basically nothing. Noobs will like the rah-rah of it though.
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Value your struggle. You don't know what you have. Once you're able to go to the most exclusive venue in town, on your own, dressed like shit, tired from work, exhausted from the gym, on Tue night... and still pull a dime piece... the game gets little boring. www.rsdnation.com/node/202332
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