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For those thinking about taking one: Review of Julien's Hot seat + Freetour Amsterdam
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Cleavage

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 Hey guys here’s my take on the freetour and the hot seat given by Julien 15, 17 & 18 march in Amsterdam.

Introduction
I’m your average college student, not much money to spend, but always been intrigued by the internet-myth that there are supposedly dudes in this world that ‘break all the movie-like-assumptions about picking up gorgeous females and learned the real secrets and developed the skills to succesfully meet and seduce all kinds of hot women’.

I have read a few articles of Julien before, but I was sceptical of paying 225 euro for a program from a instructor that seems to be new to teaching and explaining game.

After timeless periods of infield footage-searching, article reading and going out 3 times a week to occasionally gather the courage to use an opener or tactic, I finally decided I needed to see this for real if I ever wanted to learn this and without even thinking about it I purchased a hot seat….

However… buyer remorse came quik and I began to think that it doesn’t matter what they say or show, this stuff is probably way too much outside of my reality, capabilites and sense of logic..

I was very wrong. teeth


Free Tour:
Julien enters the room and the first thing you notice is that he isn’t all over the place. He is very calm, relaxed and just seems to do whatever he’s supposed to do.
The free seminar starts quikly and after asking the audience about wich topics they want him to adress he directly goes into the basic ingredients of game.

This dude knows game.
Game is his third language he seriously breathes game.
Intent, momentum, creating a bubble, dictating the rhytm… everything gets a full explanation.
He’s a very good public-speaker; loud, funny, reactive to the input of the audience and is one of the few people I’ve ever met that made me pay attention to what he has to say for 3 hours straight.

After being pumped into ‘seminar-mode’ I realize that the things he said makes sense, but some practical questions still wander around in my head.. time for hot seat !


Hot Seat
Me and my friend arrive 30 minutes before start, just to get the front seat. I already realized that this is 9 hour program and that sitting in the front is my best protection against dozing off.
So I immidatley sit in the very front next to Julien and he sometimes uses me as an example to explain an approach or type of behaviour. (sitting in the very front comes at a price I guess? XD)

I do get to feel his energy and vibe from up close and it’s not as outside of my reality as I thought it was.

Note:
This guy is a master in self-expression. I always thought these people were very good in improvising, but it’s NOT improvising they do, it’s self-expressing. What they say, what they do, what they think comes from the core of their soul. HUGE difference.


The infield footage:
Being a newbie/intermidate I want to see the concepts from pickup as black and white as possible.
The infield footage of Tyler destroys that mind-set almost directly from the start.
It’s as GREY as it can get.

The paradoxes have been a hard issue for me to deal with the past months, one paradox I’ve struggled with a long time is; how to be responsive, but non-reactive, while keeping that fun vibe and being authentic. Tyler shows the type of behaviour that captures all of these concepts:

Tyler: You girls know how to party!(physically picking up girl from street)
Hot Girl: OMG what’s going on….!(trying to walk away)
Tyler: (blocking girl from walking away) Why are you hating me right now? I love you. Kill yourself.
I really like you. Why are we fighting? (smiling)
Hot Girl: Omg.., What’s your name???(shocked and intense smiling)

Self-amusment & Rejections
Feeling the vibe, the intent and the self-amusement in the videos is mind-blowing. I never thought that EVERYTHING these guys do is based on self amusement. It comes out very clear in EVERY video.

The girls act the EXACT same way to them as they do to all of us. I used to think that the girls react differently right from the start, but usually that’s not the case at all. It’s how their reactions change in the proces what is so mind-blowing. Getting rejected has never been so meaningless, unemotional and fun.

It’s their words, their thoughts, their actions, whether they tell the girls the truth or lie to them. Whether they are serious or over-the-top. It’s all based on what they want and feel in that moment.
The masterfull calibration and persistance is what fuels the pick-up to the pull. Drawing state from being outside your head and creating momentum filled with action is a lot less dramatic as I always treated it.

Just ordinary People
At the same time you will also notice how they aren’t as god-like pick-up machines as you thought they were. As soon as they get in their heads and stop being in the moment they start pinging off of the environment, and their actions aren’t coming from their core anymore.
The Owen vs Julien compilation really illustrated that point and it makes you realize that you can relate to these guys a lot more then you initially thought.

Different angles
It’s astounding to see how these guys seem to take pick-up from different angles. When persisting for the pull they try every different angle they can think of. They do not limit their selfs to anything when talking to a girl and never commit to a single course of action and constantly expand their comfort zone. You truly understand what it means to act from the core after you’ve seen these videos.

The Boom-Boom-Boom mentallity
The most important change in my mind-set is the boom-boom-boom mentallity. The way Julien speaks, views things and picks up women is all based on initiating the spark of action that will result in the huge flame of doing what you’re supposed to do. The way he triggers himself has changed my perspective on many things and made me realize that I’m still putting a lot of value on my emotions that are based on the environment as opposed to putting value on my actions and doing what I truly want to do.

Conclusion
Becoming good with women and realizing my potential to develop my skills has never been this approachable and inside of my reality. This program truly connects all the articles and theory you have read and brings it all together in a clear and practical view. You will see video after video showing the same basic concepts and mindsets in all the different situations you can possibly think of. Your new basic assumptions will be hammered and cemented into your head. It will eliminate every question or wrong assumption you had about pick-up and will allow you to further develop your skills in the right frame and with the right mindset.

Julien’s young and modern view on pick-up is legendary. He covered everything and the bonus day gives you a good feeling of differences and similarities between Tyler and Julien’s game wich gives you a good grasp of what’s truly important. I seriously believe that this guy is the next best thing in the RSD-community.

There’s a lot more I can talk about, but Hot Seat is just one of those things you have to experience.
If you’re doubting about taking one, take it. it will cut your learning curve A LOT.

Hope to see RSD back in Holland A.S.A.P.!! teeth

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Please talk about more! It's been almost 2 months since I took the Hot Seat and your post has helped me to remember a lot of it. Anything more would be appreciated :D
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Thanks.  I'll send you my FULL review later this weekend/week, which will make you remember pretty much every detail you saw in the infield videos :P

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Very good review Cleavage!
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Stilllll waiting :)
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Been having some hardcore college exams past weeks, Sorry for the delay. I'm half way through writing it though
I want to write EVERYTHING I learned to really squeeze in the lessons. Need just a few more days. teeth
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Fastfastfast mii bwoiii! F yo exams! No just kiddin lol
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 Finally done with my full review, it’s a 7 page review of Hot Seat seen from a newbie’s perspective. It highlights realizations and eye-openers expierenced while watching the infield-footage. 

Opening ,Focus & Creating the bubble:
First the open. They also ALWAYS open THE GIRL as opposed to opening her friend or the group, which implies that they not only go in straight for what they want (intent), they also put in a direct man-to-woman frame instantly. (be the sexual threat).
I used to think that opening was a win-or-lose situation; a hit-or-miss-shot. You fully open or you don’t. You get her attention or you don’t... I didn’t know it’s actually a PROCESS (landing the plane).

It also makes you realize how they can open girls so impulsively. They just make sure the interaction has already started before even considering where to take it or how to calibrate in it. They calibrate AFTER the fact and AFTER they followed their impulses.
It’s sometimes hard to see that they are calibrating AFTER the fact, because they open exactly how they want to open when going in, that makes it look like they calibrated before-hand. 

 I now realize the difference between me and them. They have so much REFERENCE EXPERIENCES that acting through their impulses has become a comfort zone. They have opened girls so many times through impulses that they know exactly how to calibrate on it. 
As hot-seat highlights a lot: if you think/calibrate before-hand you will most likely do nothing or crash and burn. So the only way to learn this is to act through impulses which in the long-term PROCESS will learn you how to calibrate AFTER. I now realize why pain in the process is unavoidable. Get the DOWNS and the greatest UPS ever in life, or get NOTHING, the choice is up to me…

As for the open itself they almost ALWAYS get the OMG-response from the girl’s; The whoo areee youuu or the OMG, what’s happeninggggg, the OMG I don’t even know who you are… You see it so many times when they open in all the videos that it makes you think it actually might be the standard that they have to succesfully open when they feel like going over-the-top in their intent & self-amusement. 

The first thing they seem to do WHILE opening is making sure that the girl gets focussed on them.  (to start forming the bubble) They neglect the content of their words completely when doing this. (better to ask for forgiveness then for permission). They will stop the girl as soon as possible with whatever she’s doing to demand that focus.

After the split second their core tells them they WANT and GONNA approach the girl THEIR RAS gets FULL focus on the girl and then immidiatly demand full focus from her by:
- having LASER – eyecontact- being physical right off the bat - making sure the girl’s FRONT BODY is facing them straight on when talking. (exposing your front body to someone who’s talking to you = submitting )WITHOUT leaning in. They’ll usually do this by slowly and calmly pulling the girl’s hands towards them, to quikly babystep it into hug-mode. 
- They sometimes don’t even really talk to her, they just go up to her and quietly demand focus. while being  persistant BUT very unreactive and very centered & calm. (Julien’s hand-opener)

(Being focussed yourself makes a lot of sense btw; how can you demand full focus from the girl if YOU aren’t even fully focussing on HER)  

However many girls in the videos do NOT directly switch their RAS to them and try to turn around and face their body in another direction (still need to be snapped out of her haze) that’s when the FULL commitment en persistance shows:In a REFLEX (split-second) they immidiatly follow her move and keep stepping back in front of her every time she turns or walks away (WITHOUT leaning in) until she just surrenders and stands still. (Tyler is very good at this, in most vids this proces takes him around 3 seconds ) OR they will gently pull the girl’s hand(s) to playfully pull her back in when she walks away.  They will also demand the girl to look at them/focus (eye contact) to further reinforce the girl’s RAS if it’s not fully on them yet. All of this while quikly babystepping physicality. After getting the girl’s full RAS on them, they start letting the girl ping off their self-expressing words and actions guided by self-amusement & intent in a continuous flow and rhytm which THEY dictate (boom-boom-boom) which in turn slowly draws the girl deeper into their reality and the bubble.

Getting Physical:
I don’t think I’ve seen a video where they don’t get physical.  They will usually gently pull girls by their hands to break personal space and get in to a hug (in a matter of seconds)It seems to be based mostly on intent (touching the girls because they want to) babysteps and commitment to the fullest extend.
 
 But how do they get into these deep-physical situations so fast when taking babysteps? By skipping  MANY babysteps or by taking babysteps VERY fast  (boom-boom-boom), but mostly by LEADING and setting a physical RHYTM that they WANT to set. These guys appear so experienced in this process that they  already go for the next babystep while not even ‘finishing’ the previous ones

.However you’ll also see that the physicality in the videos is NOT a linear proces. It’s NOT based on doing this and this after doing this and that. There’s no logical order in the steps, anything can happen at any time and they constantly have their mind open to new windows and opportunities to expand their comfort zone. Sometimes they would just go FULL in for the make-out/lock-in or they would just go up to a girl and physically pick up a girl and move her; they just seem to try whatever they feel like and calibrate after the fact.

 When going physical you’ll see the actual motions itself are very slow, relaxed and fluent ; wich seems to break tension with the girls openness to get physical and sets a physical rhytm wich is very playfull, light & unneedy and makes the girls a little shy(breaking eye contact) but is also very focussed on progressing, escalating and not waisting any time. You can really feel the very light: it’s okay, relax  - vibe. But you can also really see the commitment and unreactiveness in their bodylanguage when the girl lightly and playfully TRIES to push them away when being overblown by this new reality.

Off Course some girls react differently to this sudden change of reality and Tyler and Julien respond well to this by (understanding but unapologethic and playfully) taking a small step back when girls are SINCERELY being overblown by this change in a authentic negative way.HOWEVER taking a SMALL step back does NOT affect their focus, their intent nor their state (unreactive). This is very noticable in the video where Tyler approaches the 10 Blond that is coming out of the toilet. You’ll also notice how, after a step back, Tyler initiates the PROCESS of her getting comfortable with the situation, which after a while results in her acceptance of the new reality set by tyler.

Dictating the Rhtym, Cause/Effect & Buyer/Seller:
In one video there’s a girl who’s leaning against the wall next to the entrance of a pizza store and after Tyler opens her she immidiately throws some interesting and easy discussable threads to him about having a dillemma through the phone, He sets the rhytm immidiately by ignoring this completely and going into threads HE wants to talk about. He LEADS the conversation right from the start. 

But dictating the rhytm is not only talking about the threads they want to talk about. It’s also about the rhytm in which they and the girl talk to each other, how calm/agressive, how loud/toned down, how much time between responding to each other, Julien and Tyler always make sure that they never deviate from THEIR rhytm that THEY want to be having right now, and in the process her rhytm will slowely but surely follow theirs; (getting sucked into their reality) 
It’s also about them setting the PHYSICAL rhytm. Tyler physically picks her up almost directly after opening  in the video after which the girl admits getting turned on. THEY decide when to bounce or move. The girls experience THEM and gradually start to become reactive towards THEIR rhytm, words and actions.  You’ll see that a minute or so after opening that they would just be standing there hugging the girl and spitting ridiculous unlogical sentence after sentence with full eye contact while being very calm and centered and that the girl would become very reactive and excited and shy (pinging off them)

Taking the responsibility off her: 
They summarize many game aspect exactly for what it is: taking the responsibility off the girl in the process of you and her hooking up. It’s primary goal is to get the girl to submit to the process. HOWEVER I never knew that taking responsibility is so focussed on the GIRL’S PERCEPTION of responsibility.They will do absolotuly ridiculous stuff to see if SHE now thinks that responsibility is taken off her.Remember the Julien and Tyler video in front of the hotel (also seen in the preview) where Julien takes one girl in the blue who has a fiancee and takes her BEHIND A POLE to take responsibility off her? (Julien: Your friend can’t see you it’s okay) It makes no sense whatsoever but he already tried the basic angles: ‘Just give me 2 minutes, 2 minutes !!’  or ‘Wait Wait Just a Sec. Just a Sec. I have a beard IT’S OKAY.

Establishing right from the start that they are the guy she can do disguisting stuff with and no one will ever find out, seems to  really trigger the girls to open up sexually. They make it MUCH easier for her to surrender to her secret restrained sexual desires. I’m sure these guys have seen girls being into some insane stuff in the bedroom.

Different Angles, Persistance,  Fully Assuming, but Never Commiting to a Single Course of Action: 
They fully assume and go for it FULL RAS and FOCUS, if they want the interaction to progress, but never commit to any single course of action. When they see a hotter girl or other set they want to apporach their RAS and FOCUS switches within a split second to the new set and they COMPLETELY abondon their last set as if it never happend and FULLY engage the new set. It really demonstrates the theory of playing with unlimited chips in a casino. 

Trying different angles is also an eye-opener. I used to think persisting meant trying the same thing till her minds just surrenders, but I didn’t realize that girls need help to come up with a reason to rationalize their actions (and thereby take responsibility off her)  it’s a lot easier for a girl to say yes to the same course of action because of a different reason when persisting, especially when persisting for the pull. They come up with the craziest stuff to see if responsibility is now taken off her and if she feels like she can go with them.  Like the video where Julien tries to pull a blond outside with a small fence between them.He tries MANY angles: 
Julien: Afterparty 
Girl: No I cant…
Julien:  It’s okay it’s 2 blocks away
Girl:…
Julien: Just 20 minutes
Girl…
Julien: Your friends will be waiting for you, Nothing happend here don’t tell your mom
Girl:…
Julien You can live your boring life here or leave with me
Girl:….

Boyfriends, Amog’s, Friends & Other Obstacles
They are very unreactive to boyfriends & amog’s. When the boyfriend would get up in their face they would usually say something in the lines off: Oow ok, sorry, bye.  Very unemotional, Not hasted and unapologethic and they would just bounce. When the AMOG’s would come however (like in the video with the hoodrats and Tyler) Tyler was very unreactive to anything they say and did not really acknowledge anything that they were trying to pull, and kept straight focus on the girl. In the PROCESS the hoodrats would eventually tone down to a point that they would try to search reactions elsewhere. 

Self-Amusement & Self-Expressing :
 
First of all these guys have a very low bar for self-amusement. They find pretty much everything they say or do self-amusing. Yet they do NOT laugh things off (unapologethic). I used to use laughing and self-amusment as a cover to hide my reactiveness. I was the guy who was saying/doing something that I’m not supposed to do (didn’t felt entitled to) and ‘tried to get away with it’ by laughing and acting amused to break tension and cover my hidden agenda.

These guys however seem GENUINELY amused by their own actions and words. In such an extend that they actually start to ping off THEMSELVES. I sometimes  get the feeling that Julien doesn’t even hear what the girls say to him.; he’s too busy getting high on his own actions and words; with non-stop LASER eye-contact and FULL focus he just seems to verbalize every little self-amusing thought that pops into his head. 

They talk very unapologethic, very boom-boom-boom and very straight forward. YET they always have that fun undertone with a slight smile. In their highest state (full intent) they literally tell the girl what they want them to do in a light and fun dictating way. The video of Tyler literally telling the girl to get out the cab shows this concept very well.

Logic:
I realize that all these times I’ve been too much obsessed with logic. I always thought talking needs to be logical; every sentence I say needs to logically follow one after another. And that every thread I talk about must be logically connected to the previous one. I thought bouncing around with the girl needs to happen in a logical fashion because of logical reasons. It was al based on my hidden agenda and needing reasons to justify my actions. (Realized I was not only trying to game the GIRLS, but felt the neccassacity to game MYSELF in the process as well)

The infield videos showed en made me realize that girls do NOT respond to logic AT ALL, so why am I being so obsessed with it ? There’s exactly ZERO logic to anything they do or say.  Being deliberately UNLOGICAL about what they say/do actually seems to entertain them even more then the actual CONTENT of their words:
Girl: Do you like me?
Julien: Like a dogg?
Girl: You just called me a dogg!
Julien: Why are we treating each other like this?  

Having logic in your game, actions and words is the most overrated concept in the pick-up community EVER.

State, Intent, Drawing State From Within, Momentum and Action-taking:
 I used to think that being in state is; being high energy, having fun, being loud, having good emotions, being in a good mood and temporarily not caring anymore. I thought that acting this way (even though I didn’t always feel like being this type of guy) would eventually get me in ‘state’ and tried to force it. I would try to fight emotions that would hold me back from acting like this type of guy. I thought I needed to behave like a certain type of guy if I wanted girls to like me. I would end up doing NOTHING at all.

I noticed that in their infield footage where they are ‘in state’ that their behaviour, emotions & energy level differ a lot between the different infield-videos. I do see one commonality in ALL the videos though ;  these guys are ACTIVE and NOT PASSIVE. I never knew you can feel miserable, be low energy, but still be ACTIVE.  I didn’t know that being active DOESN’T require being in state, being high energy, having good emotions.This comes out very clear in a video where Tyler walks around and keeps clapping his hands and verbalizes every thought that pops into his head. He even seems to be talking to himself. He keeps STAYING IN MOTION. He takes ACTION by opening which gets him high on his own actions very fast. He eventually ends up with a hot latina in his hotel.
 
They  put all the value on the ACTIONS they take.  They let their emotions be guided by their actions and the fact that they are doing what they want.The video made me realize that state has NOTHING to do with emotions or outergame. and that it’s ALL based on acting through your own intentions(INTENT), building MOMENTUM, and proving your (I’m not gonna die)-assumptions. Initiating the spark creates leverage which emotions just can’t compete with.  Getting addicted to the state you’re in the most; these guys seem to have so many experiences being in state that they just can’t help it but to take actions that will awaken that state of mind.

After seeing countless videos I finally see what being in state really means:State is the moment they are OUTSIDE of their heads. The moment their minds just goes BLANC. The moment thought, words and actions are on the same line and there’s full clarity between them . It’s when their core is giving them full guidance to every piece of outergame and self expression without any filter/correction/hesitation in a continuous flow.They hit state when they let their core guide them to do/say whatever they feel like doing/saying in that moment despite ANY circumstances ( the emotions, the environment ).

Improving your Game:
There are also a lot of videos that show that RESULTS (reactions from girls, logistic problems,pulling or not pulling etc.) can be a very UNRELIABLE indicator for good game. The rejection compilation of Tyler shows this concept where in most cases there’s not really anything Tyler could have done to avoid getting rejected. It makes you realize WHY you shouldn’t be so focussed on SPECIFIC results and should be more focussed on the OVERALL results when figuring out what went wrong. At the same time they are very focussed on WINNING instead of NOT LOSING. They ONLY focus on what to what went right and what to do better next time instead of focussing on what went wrong. It’s a very efficient state of mind.

I always thought good game was; getting results the fastest and the hottest looking girls, be the loudest and most high energy.,who can make the girls laugh the most and get the best reactions, who can the amogs the fastest etc. 
I now realize good game is based on how quikly you can FREE YOURSELF from your head and the environment. How calibrated and expierenced  you are in self-expressing. How much you have build on your emotional muscle to effectively and efficiently act from your own intent.  How reference expierences and comfort-zone extending has changed your mental and physical reflexes to calibrate in situations through your fullest intententions.  How self-amusement and action-orientated intent can let you act like the person you truly are.
 
The Most Important Lessons:
The Light Fun Active Vibe in the videos. realizing pick-up isn’t scary, emotionally charged or even high energy-dependant. Their activeness is 100% fueled by impulses NOT emotions/feelings. 
It’s all a proces. realizing the open, the bubble, the pulls, getting in state, learning game, getting results etc. are all PROCESSES. Starting to ACCEPT the fact that there’s no other way around it.  
They are not Gods; this stuff is VERY do-able. seeing how much you can relate to these guys is crazy, these dudes do NOT talk louder then my drunken uncles at the annual birthdayparties. They don’t have extreme high energy levels, do anything physical impossible or say something so insane that  you haven’t experienced before (Although Tyler’s; ‘You hold my hand like my grandmother holds my dick’ does push the line XD)   this stuff is truly 100% based on SKILLS and REFERENCE EXPERIENCES, but it also destroys the ‘pua-dream’ held by many newbies and marketed by companies; you CANNOT pull EVERY girl in the club to your pua-rape-dungeon or get EVERY girl on the street to suck your unshaved balls in the bathroom of your local MacDonalds, but you CAN get that awesome lifestyle you always wanted.  
Be unapologethic. how unapologethic you have to be to allow your impulses to fully bring out your intent and to become the real you, but also how important it is to be unapologethic about the fact that you’re not satisfied with the lifestyle you’re currently having and want to take ACTUAL ACTION to make a change.

After Hot Seat:
I decided to write this review because I really wanted to think about what I’ve seen and learned in the Hot-Seat. All these thoughts were running through my brain after witnessing these insane videos and I knew I would soon forget many of ehm after going back into the club, because you tend to rely more on personal assumptions and experiences which haven’t really given me many results over the past few months; I was in denial of having innergame problems and was heavy devoted to mystery method type of game called LOVE SYSTEMS which I hoped would help me pursue my HIDDEN agenda (now realize those dudes and their ‘methods’ suck some real ass-fungus btw) I now finally feel that I that I have a good starting point to actually get good at this and develop some REAL skills that will be usable in REAL life.

Hot Seat was the greatest eye-opener ever and I’ve already decided to join Julien’s Hot Seat AGAIN in 6 months in Germany. I want that POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT of my new learned assumptions again every 6 months or so. And I want to see the Hot Seat again through more EXPERIENCED eyes, so I can see things I didn’t see the first time as a newbie. Deciding to take Hot Seat again in 6 months has made it clear to me that I have to develop my skills and take action NOW, TODAY, TONIGHT, because I MUST have reference experiences under my belt when the time comes for the next Hot Seat.   
I’m taking more action then ever and I’ll definitely  be posting more stuff next 6 months. Thanks for reading,

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 i love you.  Now i feel like i didn't waste that $300 is spent reserving a seat for the august hot seat.  Sounds like it answers exactly the questions i have lingering.
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 Many thanks for the effort, Cleavage. I too turned my back on the Mystery-style antics. I'm sure it's good for some people, but I feel RSD is Truth, whereas everything else is merely a crutch in a different shape. Looks like we'll meet in Frankfurt. :)
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Great post man. Thanks. Totally agree about the Love Systems shit. I downloaded "Magic Bullets" and all it did was put me in my head and feel inadequate.
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