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good shit!
I like it.
If a girl is secretly needy, but not acting like it, how do you "call their bluff"?
If a girl is secretly needy, but not acting like it, how do you "call their bluff"?
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Nice work.... By no means complete but some great theory!
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Unreactiveness
I actually have a real good example
i was texting this chick yesterday n I asked where she's been.. she gave me a interview answer so like.. almost like bait to start a convo i said something like "you should stalk my life so u can see me more" n this chick called me A CREEP.. Literally.. a CREEP.. my feelings actually got hurt.. i got called a creep for being moderately cocky? I was tempted to write something back like fuck off or not text her back at all, but it just hit me.. This is bullshit.. like.. She can't be serious.. She's Bluffing.. So I just said "Lol thanks thats nice" N It was like I opened the floodgates of reactiveness, she was shit testing but reacting at the same time, it was weird.. almost like.. Me being awesome didn't gel with her reality.. but.. the reality I presented her looked so credible she didn't know what to do lol.
then theres other times.. girls have called me a dick.. -ok, girls fuck dick, it has to be doing something right.. ill take it.. hehehe **attraction**
its like their little bubble they live in is paper thin.. and soon as u don't react to it, lots of needy reactive behavior always ensues
I actually have a real good example
i was texting this chick yesterday n I asked where she's been.. she gave me a interview answer so like.. almost like bait to start a convo i said something like "you should stalk my life so u can see me more" n this chick called me A CREEP.. Literally.. a CREEP.. my feelings actually got hurt.. i got called a creep for being moderately cocky? I was tempted to write something back like fuck off or not text her back at all, but it just hit me.. This is bullshit.. like.. She can't be serious.. She's Bluffing.. So I just said "Lol thanks thats nice" N It was like I opened the floodgates of reactiveness, she was shit testing but reacting at the same time, it was weird.. almost like.. Me being awesome didn't gel with her reality.. but.. the reality I presented her looked so credible she didn't know what to do lol.
then theres other times.. girls have called me a dick.. -ok, girls fuck dick, it has to be doing something right.. ill take it.. hehehe **attraction**
its like their little bubble they live in is paper thin.. and soon as u don't react to it, lots of needy reactive behavior always ensues
I like it.
If a girl is secretly needy, but not acting like it, how do you "call their bluff"?
If a girl is secretly needy, but not acting like it, how do you "call their bluff"?
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one more thing, There is def a TYPE of value that gets you laid
Like i said, girls Fuck guys who's value wont bring theirs down..
For example If drake (hip hop sex symbol) walked into the club.. any girl who fucks him gets MORE value.. so EVERY girl wants to fuck him.
I was reading a post about college game where this dude said guys with the "manwhore" reputation do the most fucking in college..
see a consistency here?
it's more acceptable to fuck a guy her friends already fucked than take a risk on a guy who nobody has fucked...because fucking the guy her friend fucked has social proof attached to it.
So the way your value relates to her value in the eyes of her peers can immediately get you laid or not get you laid depending on the situation..
so you can see why assuming your own value is so important.. your inner value has to be so strong in your reality that it projects itself onto her reality and everyone elses reality.. so theres no question.. this guy is it, theres no way he would behave like this if he wasen't..
There's a type of guy girls always flock to, The one that when a girl see's him, she goes back to her friends and goes "oh shit its him blah blah blah girl shit blah blah", girl's stalk him & act thirsty as hell to get his attention..
YOU ARE THAT GUY, but in order for them to realize it, you have to go first.
Like i said, girls Fuck guys who's value wont bring theirs down..
For example If drake (hip hop sex symbol) walked into the club.. any girl who fucks him gets MORE value.. so EVERY girl wants to fuck him.
I was reading a post about college game where this dude said guys with the "manwhore" reputation do the most fucking in college..
see a consistency here?
it's more acceptable to fuck a guy her friends already fucked than take a risk on a guy who nobody has fucked...because fucking the guy her friend fucked has social proof attached to it.
So the way your value relates to her value in the eyes of her peers can immediately get you laid or not get you laid depending on the situation..
so you can see why assuming your own value is so important.. your inner value has to be so strong in your reality that it projects itself onto her reality and everyone elses reality.. so theres no question.. this guy is it, theres no way he would behave like this if he wasen't..
There's a type of guy girls always flock to, The one that when a girl see's him, she goes back to her friends and goes "oh shit its him blah blah blah girl shit blah blah", girl's stalk him & act thirsty as hell to get his attention..
YOU ARE THAT GUY, but in order for them to realize it, you have to go first.
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Good write up bro. The points I've quoted below relate to each other in that they're speaking towards verbally sexual communication. Could you give some examples or go into more detail on them?
Thanks.
imnashitfool wrote:
Right:
Sexual jokes
Open sexual convo
Intent is about subtlety, you don't just ask for sex... not usually... Instead you just wear your sexuality on your sleeve... your not "the guy who's trying to fuck" your "the guy whos outspoken about sex" which is better because it doesn't conflict with their need to preserve their own value, it pumps state & suggests your sex worthy.
To put it simple secret society members do 3 things normal people don't:
3) Wear their sexuality on their sleeve (also because they assume value)
In addition, Getting laid is about how your sexual communication relates to her value and state. if you can't communicate sexually in a way that preserves her value amongst her peers and pumps her state at the moment YOUR NOT GETTING LAID!!! not by anyone worth writing home about at least.
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Thanks.
imnashitfool wrote:
Right:
Sexual jokes
Open sexual convo
Intent is about subtlety, you don't just ask for sex... not usually... Instead you just wear your sexuality on your sleeve... your not "the guy who's trying to fuck" your "the guy whos outspoken about sex" which is better because it doesn't conflict with their need to preserve their own value, it pumps state & suggests your sex worthy.
To put it simple secret society members do 3 things normal people don't:
3) Wear their sexuality on their sleeve (also because they assume value)
In addition, Getting laid is about how your sexual communication relates to her value and state. if you can't communicate sexually in a way that preserves her value amongst her peers and pumps her state at the moment YOUR NOT GETTING LAID!!! not by anyone worth writing home about at least.
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ok, the instances i've gotten the least resistance where all times that almost innocently lead to sex just because we were on the topic.
in other words
I had a convo with this one girl i was in the freindzone with in her car, we spoke about sex... the psychological side of it, and how dominance makes it better.. how blow jobs are a mind fuck cuz they make guys feel dominant, etc. she got horny... she had shorts on so i said her legs looked nice (i was pretty horny too, big sexual state thing going on here at this point) She responded by saying they'd look better wrapped around me.. I almost buckled under the horniness in the vibe we had going on.. we kept it up till it got physical.. boom..
there was no proactive intent.. just innocent expression that lead to sex.
another time, I went to this girls house.. we just talked shit.. i noticed she was qualifying alot.. ok, im dominant.. i knew where it was going.. didn't make a move tho, let it flow.. after like a hr or 2 of fluff she said she wanted to get a massage in the morning.. I said I'll do it.. i started on her shoulders, she said to go lower, I told her she had to lay down but if I sat behind her my dick was gonna get hard.. she didn't care.. I messaged her back.. dick got hard.. I bit her neck n grinded on her ass.. she giggled.. NO PROACTIVE INTENT SO FAR.. I put my hand in her low cut shirt n felt her bare tit while I sucked her neck n grinded on her from the side.. she was into it.. i get lmr.. In an attempt to be "dominant" I tell her to shut up.. I fuck up her mood, she tells me i gotta go..
proactive intent = fail.
If I just acted normal when she started resisting the sexual vibe would have lead to sex eventually, but nooooooo i had to be dominant.
its kinda like meditation when they say to allow your thoughts to come and go... well u gotta allow sexual vibes to come and go the same way.. any attempt to force them results in the opposite effect..
in other words
I had a convo with this one girl i was in the freindzone with in her car, we spoke about sex... the psychological side of it, and how dominance makes it better.. how blow jobs are a mind fuck cuz they make guys feel dominant, etc. she got horny... she had shorts on so i said her legs looked nice (i was pretty horny too, big sexual state thing going on here at this point) She responded by saying they'd look better wrapped around me.. I almost buckled under the horniness in the vibe we had going on.. we kept it up till it got physical.. boom..
there was no proactive intent.. just innocent expression that lead to sex.
another time, I went to this girls house.. we just talked shit.. i noticed she was qualifying alot.. ok, im dominant.. i knew where it was going.. didn't make a move tho, let it flow.. after like a hr or 2 of fluff she said she wanted to get a massage in the morning.. I said I'll do it.. i started on her shoulders, she said to go lower, I told her she had to lay down but if I sat behind her my dick was gonna get hard.. she didn't care.. I messaged her back.. dick got hard.. I bit her neck n grinded on her ass.. she giggled.. NO PROACTIVE INTENT SO FAR.. I put my hand in her low cut shirt n felt her bare tit while I sucked her neck n grinded on her from the side.. she was into it.. i get lmr.. In an attempt to be "dominant" I tell her to shut up.. I fuck up her mood, she tells me i gotta go..
proactive intent = fail.
If I just acted normal when she started resisting the sexual vibe would have lead to sex eventually, but nooooooo i had to be dominant.
its kinda like meditation when they say to allow your thoughts to come and go... well u gotta allow sexual vibes to come and go the same way.. any attempt to force them results in the opposite effect..
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This shit be tight
Cool post.
Nice post..the "we hold the cards and do the silly bluffing game " frame is true now that I think about it. Out of curiousity OP, are you black?
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What the "Secret Society" knows that normal people don't.
1. All girls are thirsty for a cool guy.
2. Girls are needy
3. They have to bluff ALL the time or else their neediness would be exposed.
4. If your cool and your man enough to call their bluff(s) you find out that their all DTF
5. State makes people willing to do anything.
6. shields only exist so girls can protect their value & state.
Knowing these rules you can always assume attraction with confidence as long as you have reasonable social skills n know how to have fun.This means this whole shit is really just a silly little game where you act cool, they bluff like they don't want you & if you can call it enough times, their yours.
Sexy vs creepy:
Intent + appropriate social boundaries = green light.
Too little intent = punk
Too much intent = creep
Right:
Sexual jokes
Open sexual convo
Sexual state
Calibrated physical game
SOI + state pump
Wrong:
Proactive cockiness
Uncalled for SOIs
Uncalibrated physical game
Perviness
Trying to "trick" her
Intent is about subtlety, you don't just ask for sex... not usually... Instead you just wear your sexuality on your sleeve... your not "the guy who's trying to fuck" your "the guy whos outspoken about sex" which is better because it doesn't conflict with their need to preserve their own value, it pumps state & suggests your sex worthy.
To put it simple secret society members do 3 things normal people don't:
1) Assume value.
2) take more initiative (because they assume value)
3) Wear their sexuality on their sleeve (also because they assume value)
BETTER YET, THE ONLY THING THEY DO DIFFERENT IS FULLY ASSUME VALUE:
No matter how good your game is, no matter how funny or cool you are you will not get laid consistently until you learn to fully assume value in all your social situations & become cynical of all things that suggest your value is low.
This means:
-You believe girls will like you because your cool.
-You expect positive outcomes
-You don't apologize for your sexuality
-You don't proactively try to "get sex" cuz u have the value.
-Your skeptical of shit tests
-You don't let opportunities slide.
If you do this right you don't have to try to "get sex", just be yourself & girls will meet you half way by default.
This is inner game 2.0, an attitude that gets you laid because its grounded in realism & not psuedo psychology or far out eastern philosophy (no offense to anyone who's into that, i just think its way less practical):
We don't take girls that serious, We don't buy into their bullshit, We know we hold all the cards & We just wanna have fun & pimp it.
Girls LOVE guys with this attitude for friendship and sex, there's no pressure of being on a pedestal, no weirdness of sexual expectations, just realness & fun.. the sexual tension at the moment & your own initiative determine the outcome & the quality of the sex makes HER get attached and clingy, not you.
In addition, Getting laid is about how your sexual communication relates to her value and state. if you can't communicate sexually in a way that preserves her value amongst her peers and pumps her state at the moment YOUR NOT GETTING LAID!!! not by anyone worth writing home about at least.
but thats ok, cuz now your value is gonna add to hers now and your sexuality is gonna pump her state cuz you assume so much value.. right? yes? ok.
(side note: i've noticed the signs of a girl whos "on the ropes" beta females tend to CONSTANTLY qualify to you.. "Are you ok?" "you want ___?" "im sorry for ___!!" and Alpha Females tend to test the shit outta you.. LOOK FOR THAT.. that means their submissive or becoming submissive aka fuck her now)
your now a society member... you have no excuse not to get laid now..go pimp it.