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My game thus far - "bubble of love" + playing hard to get.
I don't like the way you call it 'hard to get'. Its like you are assuming the women's role. Its more like keeping yourself 'mysterious' and not giving away yourself away.
Anyways, great fkin post!
Anyways, great fkin post!
I guess you could put it that way. But yeah, thanks for the props.
The cool thing about being hard to get (or playing it), is that letting go of the outcome / letting go of the idea of that ONE girl, or any girl, becomes so easy. Instead of communicating with her everyday, you only do it a couple times a week. It's less stressful, and less outcome dependant.
The cool thing about being hard to get (or playing it), is that letting go of the outcome / letting go of the idea of that ONE girl, or any girl, becomes so easy. Instead of communicating with her everyday, you only do it a couple times a week. It's less stressful, and less outcome dependant.
Much respect to your posts Jrad they are fucking awesome.
Keep it up.
Keep it up.
Jrad mate, good stuff.
I like how rsd gives us all criteria but, game is a art, a form of self expression, and one should act accordingly.
I wont go as far to say play hard to get. I describe it similarly but, different in a varying degree.
I don't chase. I replace.
That there is a staple to my game.
With that said, I will approach, I will pull or I will pull someone else.
As of now, in a relationship, I just returned from vacation.
Being that it is spring breaker season, its very unsualy to be on vacation with a girl as oppose to wilding out with single birds.
All a level of progression mate. As for role playing, I do the same only, it gets played out immediately and is short lived.
For instance, upon approach, I immediately brand a girl, "......" or what have you.
Point is that, I can then later reiterate where I left off using the role play. Again, it is short lived so, you strike while the going is good.
Assume, after the interaction no matter how good it was that, you in all likelihood will never see her again which goes back to replacing as oppose to chasing.
Usually, I work flash game so, the push is to pull. Nothing less.
Worst case scenario, I take her digits to contact at another time but, I am back at it to charm stunners out of their dress, and pull back to my pad.
The law of least effort is another staple of game. A flower doesn't try to grow. It grows. I don't try to pull. I pull.
It shouldn't be like pulling teeth. Effort is involved but, minimal effort and yes, it is paradoxical.
I do not put life on hold or be on stand by for a girl. Excuses and flaking, i just discard and delete number immediately.
At this point, they can only contact me now so, chasing is avoided and a impossibility.
It just so happens that, pretending to be busy is not in the cards for me.
I am actually busy on a paper chase. I am out to make my millions and chasing women will not help me reach this higher purpose.
To end off, a man should be in alignment with his core purpose whatever it maybe, that motivational driving force, and upon that, he should be able to cultivate the abundance lifestyle and live out his dreams.
Upon my journey, during a ban from the forums for reason unknown to me, I met and pulled a SMOKE SHOW inside and out, the sort of caliber girl I recognize my counter balanace in another.
When you have purpose and meaning in your life, you show signs of success long before it materializes, and is form based. This is so key to game. Be that man of vision even before it materializes and takes form.
Its nice to be on top form, spitting 10 game, all eloquent and bloody brilliant which is nice but, its not a prerequiste of game or for pulling.
-happy hunting!
I like how rsd gives us all criteria but, game is a art, a form of self expression, and one should act accordingly.
I wont go as far to say play hard to get. I describe it similarly but, different in a varying degree.
I don't chase. I replace.
That there is a staple to my game.
With that said, I will approach, I will pull or I will pull someone else.
As of now, in a relationship, I just returned from vacation.
Being that it is spring breaker season, its very unsualy to be on vacation with a girl as oppose to wilding out with single birds.
All a level of progression mate. As for role playing, I do the same only, it gets played out immediately and is short lived.
For instance, upon approach, I immediately brand a girl, "......" or what have you.
Point is that, I can then later reiterate where I left off using the role play. Again, it is short lived so, you strike while the going is good.
Assume, after the interaction no matter how good it was that, you in all likelihood will never see her again which goes back to replacing as oppose to chasing.
Usually, I work flash game so, the push is to pull. Nothing less.
Worst case scenario, I take her digits to contact at another time but, I am back at it to charm stunners out of their dress, and pull back to my pad.
The law of least effort is another staple of game. A flower doesn't try to grow. It grows. I don't try to pull. I pull.
It shouldn't be like pulling teeth. Effort is involved but, minimal effort and yes, it is paradoxical.
I do not put life on hold or be on stand by for a girl. Excuses and flaking, i just discard and delete number immediately.
At this point, they can only contact me now so, chasing is avoided and a impossibility.
It just so happens that, pretending to be busy is not in the cards for me.
I am actually busy on a paper chase. I am out to make my millions and chasing women will not help me reach this higher purpose.
To end off, a man should be in alignment with his core purpose whatever it maybe, that motivational driving force, and upon that, he should be able to cultivate the abundance lifestyle and live out his dreams.
Upon my journey, during a ban from the forums for reason unknown to me, I met and pulled a SMOKE SHOW inside and out, the sort of caliber girl I recognize my counter balanace in another.
When you have purpose and meaning in your life, you show signs of success long before it materializes, and is form based. This is so key to game. Be that man of vision even before it materializes and takes form.
Its nice to be on top form, spitting 10 game, all eloquent and bloody brilliant which is nice but, its not a prerequiste of game or for pulling.
-happy hunting!
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.
jRad whats up! I like your posts. I ved read the other one u posted about being needy, almost the same philosophy u put on this post too. Its truely hard for most man to keep their mouth shut or fingers, when a girl do not respond to a message or what, if we let our will talk to lowd we´ll gonna over-comunicate and blow our chances away. I had some experiences where i did that game perfectly, but naturaly, it was like i was not giving a fuck about these girls no more, and suddenly, when they saw i wasn being that pushy, they started to hit hard on me! Anyways, tell me something, when coming to phone game, this can be easily done, but in the first interaction, when we go talk to the girl to meet her , can we implement this vibe on our behaviour? how do we play hard to get when in set? I did once the james bond at the bar, not holding eye contact with nobody, smiling to the view, dancing very little, may be just head shaking, and i got results, a girl came from nowhere and started to dance in front of me teasing me then turn around and kiss me, ended up fucking her next night. But i wanna go proactive and have the same results, Its like, i go hard everynight i m out, and it becomes a numbers game when we approach approach , express ourselfs and nothing is hapenning in a consistent way! Like we feel ourselfs try harders after hiting so hard women!
P.s; Met this girl at a bar 3 weeks ago, we made out all night, couldn t pull. Recently called her to a barbecue at my friend´s place, then i pulled her to my place, but she made me blowjobs all night, and didnt wanna to fuck, saying "not today" . She was verbalizing "i wanna fuck you, i wanna feel you inside me" but when i went down to finger and stuff she giggles and say no . lol ended up with us sleeping and next morning she went off(she has a boyfriend back to slovenia, but she told that what hapens in erasmus stays in erasmus and she really likes me. durrr ) . She was also saying all the time that i was cocky, knew i was hansome and good looking, that could get anygirl i wanted and that i take advantage from it(shit tests lol witch i respond with indifference and no response). we talked after that, but i m implementing the play hard to get , and i m not gonna text her during a week, but if she do not text me either, should i call ? i know, i have more women, of course, but i would like to finish what i started, know what i mean,,? ahaha there s always that will to not let something unDONE!
Halla back ;)
P.s; Met this girl at a bar 3 weeks ago, we made out all night, couldn t pull. Recently called her to a barbecue at my friend´s place, then i pulled her to my place, but she made me blowjobs all night, and didnt wanna to fuck, saying "not today" . She was verbalizing "i wanna fuck you, i wanna feel you inside me" but when i went down to finger and stuff she giggles and say no . lol ended up with us sleeping and next morning she went off(she has a boyfriend back to slovenia, but she told that what hapens in erasmus stays in erasmus and she really likes me. durrr ) . She was also saying all the time that i was cocky, knew i was hansome and good looking, that could get anygirl i wanted and that i take advantage from it(shit tests lol witch i respond with indifference and no response). we talked after that, but i m implementing the play hard to get , and i m not gonna text her during a week, but if she do not text me either, should i call ? i know, i have more women, of course, but i would like to finish what i started, know what i mean,,? ahaha there s always that will to not let something unDONE!
Halla back ;)
jRad
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It's new terrain with me (playing hard to get). It's fun. This week I've decided to give it a shot, and I got laid last night because of it. The night before, I would've got laid if I had a condom with me - and tonight, I have plans with a latina broad and will lay her too.
Science has backed it up - playing hard to get can help you get the girl. It's the basic principle of, "we want what we can't have". That's why when a girl isn't responding to your texts, your initial instinct is to go nuts and chase her. I still get that sometimes. Understand that dating is a game. It's literally about 'who holds the power'. You, want to hold that power, at all times.
Playing Hard To Get
The whole point is to give the girl the idea that you're "high value". You're busy. I'll give you some tips I've found that work for me:
The "Day of Grace" Rule.
Whenever I get a girl's number, I treat it in this fashion: text her, she responds, don't text back > wait for that day to end. the next full day, don't text her at all. > the next day after that, if she hasn't already texted you (which, if she's hooked, she will), then you call her that night between 8 and 11).
So, an example would be this. You get her number on the weekend (Saturday). Text her on Sunday. Fluff talk a bit, but make sure she's the last to respond in the conversation. Don't text her back on sunday night. Don't text her at all the next day (Monday). On Tuesday, if she hasn't texted (which, she should if she's interested), then you call her that night (Tuesday), at around 930 or whatever. Repeat the same thing. The next day (Wednesday), you don't text her at all. If you have good phone game, she'll probably text you during Wednesday. Don't respond. Call her Thursday night around 9 or whenever, and then go out with your buddies on the weekend.
Catch the drift? Over-communication (texting, calling) kills attraction. You become too available. This is especially true if you've already been on a date with a girl, and you wanna see her again. That's why I limit contact with her (calling) to two times a week. Usually Tuesday and Thursday nights, and I don't text her AT ALL. I let her text me. It's all about getting her to pursue you, getting her to invest. Again, I'll invest, but I won't chase.
This has worked beautifully for me. I've been on 3 dates this week. All of which I applied this rule, and all of which have initiated contact with me. They're chasing me. "You're dangerous, mister. I don't know what it is about you, but I'm never this giddy around anyone". One of my girls said that to me this week. She's feeling that way because I'm playing hard to get.
FAQ:
What if I text her, and she doesn't text back? - Give it a day of grace, and then call her the day after the day of grace, at night. If she doesn't answer, don't leave a voicenote. She probably has call ID, and she probably sees she has a missed call. If she doesn't call you back, give it one week. Call her after seven days of not talking to her (if she hasn't texted or called you back already). This time, leave a voicemail, and then never, ever text / call her again. You've shown that you're not needy, you're not over communicating, and the onus is now on her.
Do I text her / call her on weekends? No. I don't have time on the weekends, personally. If I did, I wouldn't call or text anyway. The only time I would call is on Sunday night. Do all your calling and texting (keeping the Day of Grace in mind) between Sunday and Thursday night. Thursday is even a stretch, because I go out that night.
Respond to half her texts. Always, always, always have her get the last word during texts.
You're setting up a dynamic, a frame. That frame is getting her to chase you. I had one of my girls text me, "Do you think you're attracted to me?". I didn't respond at all. I simply called her the next day at around 930 at night. Another girl texted me, "so are we playing the 'who texts first' game?" - this was after waiting a day (day of grace), and the next day she texted me. I responded with, "Figure that out for yourself ;)". She responded with something giddy, and I didn't respond back. It's all about setting up that dynamic. You're the prize.
Be the first one to end everything.
Kiss, and pull away when it's really hot. Text, but let her finish it off with her texting you. Go on dates, but always end them first. Again, set up that dynamic.
Be super vague about everything.
Women love mystery. They don't want to figure you out, it doesn't get them off. They want you to hold back. I always, always use this little tidbit now. For example, I'll say something on the phone like...
Me: "I have something to tell you..."
Her: "What?"
Me: "*laugh*.... nevermind".
Her: "What is it!!! You can't just do that!!"
Me: "I'll tell you when we hangout on Tuesday"
Or..
Me: "There's something I really like about you..."
Her: "Oh yeah? What's that?"
Me: "...I dunno if I should tell you"
Her: "What! Nooo tell me!"
Me: "K shhh just forget it haha"
Her: "NOOO you can't do that!"
Me: *pause*
Her: "Just tell me!"
Me: "I'll tell you when we grab coffee. anyways"
Stuff like that. Keep her on her toes.
Creating that "Bubble of Love"
Roleplaying.
So fucking under-rated. This is so key to use at bars too, not just texting and calling. This is massive. I do it all the time. It's one of those things I forgot about, and then I realized, "oh, it's because I'm not actually flirting with her. I'm not creating that world that just her and I live in", kinda deal.
I have my own, tailored roleplaying thing that I do with girls and it works great. You can figure it out as well. The formula is simple:
You + her = in a scenario that's ridiculously fun and has a undertone of sexuality.
That's how you start the bubble. You can be like, "so I have the best idea ever, it involves you and i", 'oh yeah?', "yup", 'what is it?', "lets fly down south america, get married on some giant yacht and play with dolphins all day". Just pulled that out of my ass, but you get the idea. It's fun, getting married = intimate undertone, and who doesn't like dolphins. Then for the rest of the night (or if youre calling), refer to her as you 'brasilian wifey'. Make it fun, roleplay that shit. Talk about naming your kids. "If we have a girl, we're naming her... Steve". "Alright if one of our kids are ugly, you can have them and I'll stick with the good looking one". You don't even have to think about this stuff, it should just come naturally.
Take 50% of what she says seriously, and the other 50% in regards to roleplaying.
For example, on the phone / in person..
Her: "so what did you do today?"
Me: "bought plane tickets to brasil.. I'm getting one step ahead of you, planning our wedding"
Her: "oh really? did you order wedding photos yet too?"
Me: "nah, I figure I'll make you my sugar mama, you can deal with that"
compared to..
Her: "so what did you do today?"
Me: "work, then went to the gym"
Her: "oh, cool"
Usually at bars I'm pretty direct (go up and say they're cute), then I'll add some roleplay in, while playing hard to get at the same time.
That's pretty much it. That's what's worked for me lately. It's a lot of unconcious things that I did sometimes, that I conciously now do all the time. For playing hard to get, the point is to keep your cards close. To put them all on the table, is a bad move. Women don't want to figure you out. Keep yourself a mystery to you, it's intriguing.
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