THE FORUMS
Miami 5 Day Bootcamp with Julien and Owen - 03/06 to 03/11/2012
Holy shit man gooooood fucken stuff. EPIC
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awesome review! I was there two weeks ago so I related much to the locations of your review (except for the art place). very detailed and educational. great stuff man.
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I grab her hand and bring her to the door of the club but she stops me right before we get into a cab. I still can’t get her to move out of the club. We move back to our corner and continue to make out. As the buying temperature goes up again I grab her hand and move her into a storage area I had seen earlier. In there the resistance faded and our love story continued gloriously.
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Awesome review :D
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Eat, sleep, breath and fuck Game.
Read it all, enjoyed every word man , thanks for posting

DonDiego
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Join Date: 02/14/2012 | Posts: 13
o Feeling a bit nervous. The feeling is analogous to the cold you get in the pit of your stomach as you go up the first hill of a big roller-coaster ride, you are a bit anxious, you are a bit scared, but you know that the thrill to come is going to be amazing and that everything will be all right in the end.
o The students met up at the National Hotel lobby were Julien and his two assistants, Seth and Dave, gave us a briefing on what to expect over the next five days. Shortly thereafter we had a nice meal at the Delano and Owen joined us to provide additional color and instructions on what mindset to keep during boot-camp.
o After dinner we moved to the pool area of the Delano where we begin to approach set after set. Julien was insistent that we approach as many sets as possible to get our social momentum going. He emphasized the importance of being self-amused and acting according to our own desires. Julien really hammered home the need to do what YOU want to do.
§ By acting through our own intentions and through self-amusement, one is able to reach state more quickly he added.
§ Lines or actions that don’t necessarily illicit good responses from girls, make you laugh if they came from a place of self-amusement and bring you closer state. This technique allows one to more easily draw state from within rather than from the environment or from other people’s reactions.
o We approached many sets, we made many mistakes and we had a lot of fun.
§ The best way to learn and to improve your game really is to go out, practice, push your comfort zone and get as many reference experiences as possible.
o Towards the end of the night, I saw one of the assistants with a two set and I approached the attractive blue eyed brunet wearing a sexy purple sundress by herself. She quickly blew me off with a line about her boyfriend, the stink eye and LOTS of negative energy.
§ Julien, having realized that I had aborted to quickly sends me back in. More and more, she pushed me away but I could tell she was enjoying the attention and wouldn’t leave. Julien emphasized switching gears from being goal oriented to focusing on the process and being self-amused.
o I kept trying to kiss her only to be told repeatedly “Never gonna happen” while she pushed me away. This went on for a LONG time but my positive frame was strong and she wasn’t able to wear it down.
o From then on the fun began. I talked to her about being married, having kids etc, which is not true. She got extremely mad that I would be cheating on my fake wife. I wear a ring on my middle finger and this girl was convinced that I was the type of guy who would move it from my ring finger while at the club to hit on chicks.
o At one point I interrupted the play time to tell her that I wasn’t married and that I did in fact like her. By mentioning a number of things about herself that she had told me earlier in the night, I was able to communicate that I she wasn’t just another girl. She was studying to become a nurse, she was very adventurous, well traveled, she was confident and she was sexy. She did have a bit of extra meat on her but whatever ;-)
o At that point she agreed to move with me to beach were the foreplay began. She had spent a bit too much time on the beach that day and had a pretty bad sunburn. The positive side effect of this was that she was not wearing any underwear beneath her sundress. This made foreplay a lot easier at the beach. Still she kept pushing me off and telling me “Never gonna happen” when I amped up the physical interaction.
o We moved back to the Delano pool area where her friend was talking to the other RSD assistant Seth. She wouldn’t kiss me in front of her friend as they both had boyfriends.
o They were leaving and we tried to split them up with no success. At this point I suggested going to the signature South Beach late night food spot “Sandwicherie”. The two girls agreed but at this point Seth had disappeared. I texted him to meet us at the food place but he no longer believed in the set by then
o I was cool and collected during our meal and kept joking around with the two girls. Once we were done with our meal, I jumped into the cab with them as if it were the most natural thing in the world. We kept discussing politics or something during the cab ride and there was no resistance to me coming over. I would not have been able to keep this up if I had been drinking all night.
o As soon as we arrived to their apartment I went into the brunet’s room, she put on her pajamas and I slipped in under the sheets completely naked. When she came to bed and realized this, I told her I don’t wear clothes in bed and always slept in the nude... she complied.
o From then on it was pretty much over. We had an incredible night together ;-). She went back to DC, to her boyfriend, and since then she has been texting to come visit.
o Later, I find out that Julien also took down a stunning Israeli girl that night. Julien is basically able to convince this chick to sleep with him in what we came to call “The Kill Room”. Because Julien and Owen like to sleep in complete darkness, they line their windows with black trash-bags and duct tape. Then add a cheap Ikea night lamp that glows bright red, add a half eaten piece of stake on the night stand, not even on a plate, a mirror that we dragged in from the living room, Julien’s rock music and the room is complete. The result is a mix between a low budget porn set with a Hitchcock horror movie. Nevertheless she loves it and continues to come over to Julien throughout the program.
o Day Two, Fountainbleu and Liv – How to get bathroom Pulls, dancing to Lil Jon and Lots and Lots of Laugher
o Our entourage takes on a new student and we move to the bar area of the Fountainbleu hotel. We arrive and quickly dominate the lobby and bar area. Set, after set, after set, we are having a blast, talking to everybody and joking around. We are picking up girls, we are spinning them around, kissing cougars, we are having a great time.
o At around eleven we move to the club as it slowly fills up before Lil Jon plays his set.
o The slaughter begins. As girls come in through the door, we grab them, we joke around, we get lots and lots of touching and everyone’s state is going up and up.
o Julien and I settle by the bar downstairs were we get two tiny bottles of overpriced Fiji water. We engage the two fatties next to us and continue to joke around. A few minutes later I see a gorgeous 21yr old tanned Latina girl approach. Julien gives me the eye. I know what that means. I extend my arm and tell her to come over to me. The sexy girls comes over, the anime eyes light up, I talk in her ear for ten seconds and move in for the make out.
§ The fatty I was talking to is in disbelief as she watches this go down. For his own self amusement Julian tells her that I knew the girl from before and that I fucked her.
o I make out with the Latina girl some more, we exchange phone numbers and I let her go back to her friends.
o At this point Julien instructs me on how I should have tried to go for the same night pull. He tells me in these cases I should even try for the bathroom pull if I see a window open. Julian proceeds to give me a few bullet points on how to get this done. He highlights the importance of baby steps and off we go.
o I see a red-head, I use my red-head opener: Strong eye contact, powerful voice, b-line straight up to her and say “Red-head, you are my favorite!”. She lights up, I whisper in her ear “Do you have a soul ginger? You smell like strawberry” she laughs and I go for the make out. She won’t have it and pushes me away.
o Julien looks at me and says “baby steps, baby steps”. She wont leave, which is a great sign. She definitely likes me. The conversation turns more and more sexual. We talk about how adventurous we both are. I steer the conversation towards all the bathroom fun that we could have.
o I start to move her around the club, closer and closer to bathroom but still, no make out. She pushes me away every time I go in for the kiss. I laugh it off and continue to chat with her. At one point, amidst the laughter, I grab the back of her head and go in for the kiss. She opens up and starts to aggressively make out with me. The buying temperature is going up. She says she needs to pee, so I start to take her towards the men’s bathroom… I can tell that she is getting excited.
o The foreplay begins as we walk over. I walk into the bathroom in front of her and take a twenty out of my pocket. I offer it to the bathroom attendant and tell him we need to talk in one of the stalls. He looks at me puzzled and says no. I plea, plea and plea some more and he keeps saying no. Even the chick jumps in and argues with the bathroom attendant but he will have none of it. The other bathroom attendant threatens to call a bouncer and starts to radio for help. We flee the scene as bouncers start to move towards the bathroom area. Just as a side note by the way, what bathroom has two bathroom attendants anyway? We make out some more but she still needs to go to the bathroom so we exchange information and I let her go.
o I move on to super sexy tanned blond in the dance floor. I make eye contact, walk straight over to her, grab her and start dancing. At this point I’m in an excellent state. Lil Jon is playing, everyone is having a great time. She won’t kiss me but pretty much lets me put my hands all the way down her pants in the middle of the club. She is a local girl, with her friends at the club and because of that I have difficulty moving her. I get her number and roll off. We end up seeing her again at our late night food spot.
o The night continues, more make outs and more laugher. We even take down girls outside as they leave the club to go home. At one point during the night I must have seen each member of our crew, students, instructors, assistants, everyone, making out with hot club girls. Everyone is having a great night. Owen even finds time to go up to a girl’s room for a quick pull.
o At the end of the night, after a lovely meal at our favorite late food spot Sandwicherie, we have an amazing and very insightful debrief conducted by Julien and Owen. Concepts and ideas that I never imagined, like the bathroom pull, and same night pulls, were broken down and analyzed. So many insights and so much confidence is coming out of this boot-camp. What an amazing night!
o Day Three, W Hotel and The Wall – Ups and Downs of Emotional State, Trusting the Methods and Having a Tone of Fun
o The game plan for day three is to start on our own. Julien instructs the students to arrive at the W Hotel around ten PM and to start to warm up on our own. This move aims to get us in the mindset of going out solo and being able to generate state without the need of a wingman or instructors around telling us what to do.
§ Julien instructs us to quickly open sets and to get in the groove of things as soon as we arrive.
§ I remember his quote “Do not be like the floating Salmon dead in the water after spawning, open sets”, be the action and not the reaction in the environment.
o I am a bit nervous about this. When I arrive I walk around, I don’t see any girls and I keep moving. I finally see a two set of Russians and I convince myself of reasons for why I shouldn’t talk to them. I walk around some more and the image of dying salmon comes into my head. I snap out of it.
o I see another group of Russians taking pictures of each other. I walk over, open, talk to them for a while and then they ignore me.
o I see the other student, we talk for a few minutes and move to the bar. I see two Nicaraguan girls close to us and we open them together. We start to joke around, we are all laughing, having fun, lots of touching, etc. They wont move and they are not really our type so we move to the outside area.
o I have a seat with a couple of our friends and we proceed to command girls to come sit with us as they walk by. We stop them with powerful orders and get them to sit-down. We get a bunch of number and lots of laughs.
o I move back inside the bar area and I see a two set of chicks from the Ukraine. Two tall guys are hitting on them but one of the chicks is giving me the eyes as I walk by. I grab her hand and turn her away from her friend and the two guys. I remember what Julien told me about always asking about the group’s connections to prevent a punch to the back of the head. I find out that they were just hitting on them even though the guys pretend like they already knew the girls. I turn the Ukrainian girl back to me again and I go in for instant make-out. We have an awesome make out in front of the two guys who are staring in disbelief. Julien arrives and tells us its time to go to the amazing club “The Wall” so I take her number and walk away.
o Julien finds a few chicks to help us get into the club on our way and we quickly start to open sets as we arrive. The club is loud and very tough. I admit to falling out of state after being blow out pretty badly and getting lots of stink eyes. At this point I am struggling to have fun in there. Julien comes over to me and explains the need to learn from this experience and to realize that emotions come in waves. I allow the negative energy to enter and leave freely. Julien tells me to trust the process, to re-engage girls, to open sets, to be self amused, to draw state from within and to be congruent with my emotions.
§ Julien encourages me to expand my comfort zone, to be overly physical, to get the bad blow outs. He tells me that only this way will I know exactly were the line is, so that in the future I can walk the tight rope between, too much and just enough physical contact to quickly escalate the sexual tension.
§ Later on I would reap the fruits of the pain experienced in the club. I would realize why the experiences of having been yelled at, slapped and punched on the chest, ultimately helped me become better at calibrating.
o From there we bounce to the Clevelander. The location change triggers a reset of my mental state and I’m super happy again. Julien instructs us to approach the venue change as a new night and to quickly get back in the groove by jumping into sets.
o I see a girl who is just my type. Young, blond, green eyes, girl next door type with an air of confidence and a slight smirk to her appearance. I make a b-line towards her and start the conversation. We have an excellent interaction and we exchange numbers, but because she has a boyfriend and her friends are around, I wasn’t able to move things beyond that.
o We move to the streets of South Beach, we are talking to everybody and we are having a blast. We end the night by having a tone of fun on the streets of Miami approaching club goers as they head home. We were super self amused and super fun.
o The most powerful lessons taken from this day was the need to have a powerful frame. By preventing a girl’s negative energy to infect your positive state you can flood her with your positive energy and bring her into your own reality. The second most important lesson was the need to reward yourself for your actions. It is necessary to judge your interactions as successes when you are acting through your own intentions and not using other people’s reactions or responses as a barometer for your night. The last lesson was the importance of clarity of intent and engaging the sets with a powerful man-to-woman dynamic. One should not be comfortable just because he is in set and relax the conversation into a nonthreatening friend-to-friend dynamic. Remember why you are out, play to win!
o Day Four, Delano Pool Area and Clevelander – Endurance, from the walk to the club to the last set of the night, its ON
o Julien did a free talk at one of the local chapters in Miami that night and he was supper pumped. Again we were instructed to start the night on our own to hammer home the mindset that we are enough. Each one of us, on our own is enough to get the party going.
o As I’m walking over to the Delano to get the night started I see a gorgeous German girl fixing her sexy high heel shoes. I joke that her friends are not going to wait for her if she takes to long to catch up to them. She tells me that she is by her self and that she is walking over to dinner at a place next to the Delano. I introduce myself, we start to chat and we walk over together. I joke around with her, I get some touching going and as we pass the Delano I tell her that I need to let her go. She is so sad that our time is over and I ask for her number. I tell her to meet up with me after dinner. This is a perfect example of a girl I would have just let walk past me without saying anything in the past.
§ The emphasis on not drinking during boot-camp is very effective at erasing the line between day game and night game, it clears the line between club/bar game and street game. The reference experiences from Boot camp provided the necessary pillars of experience to execute a street approach with confidence.
o Finally, at the Delano pool area we approach sets and we continue to have a lot of fun. Julien and I meet a two set of gorgeous blonde Swedish girls, we joke around with them and get a good interaction going. A competing group of two Swedish girls Julien knew from the previous week arrives and one of the girls takes him away. Thirty minutest later, after a quick field trip back to the “kill-room” Julien comes back to the Delano with his face covered with the girl’s glitter and makeup all over his face.
o Julien keeps forcing us onto sets, we get a few blow outs, we seduce a few cougars and we let them go back to their husbands. We use every set as a way to pump our states by acting through our own intentions and by being self amused. This is clearly working.
o We see the previous group of Swedish girls sitting on the lounge beds so the other student and I quickly move in for the kill. It turns out that I actually saw one of them running on the beach earlier that day. She was running as a part of a large Miami Beach running group and I would recognize a blonde like that anywhere. Julien tells me to be physical quickly. I escalate and get the make out. The other student and I try to get the pull but they brush us off. We exchange information and make plans to meet up the following day.
o On our way out Julien hits on a super cute girl next door type in her mid twenties. This girl is smitten and all over Julien. Five minutes later however her gigantic father, who is built like a football player moves in. Julien is cool and collected as the daughter is pulled away by her father. Julien continues to yell out commands to the girl as she fights her parents who are literally dragging her away. It was a hilarious scene and I was amazed at how poised Julien was during the interaction.
o We move to the Clevelander again for some late night fun. Julien continues to enforce lessons about having a powerful frame and pushing through your limits.
o As we walk in, I see a three set with two guys on a table. I sit down and start to game Nicole, who just broke up with her boyfriend. This set takes a lot of work. I’m joking around, winning over the girls, winning over the guys in the group, establishing trust and rapport and finally I get the make out. As the club closes I try for the pull again but no success. I do notice that my convicting skills that Julien taught me are getting better, I start to get more hesitation in the girl’s responses and I feel that there is definite improvement.
o Julien continues to emphasize the need to seize the moment, the need to push your own perceived limitations and to ultimately go for the same night close. Only by testing your boundaries will you be able to expand them.
o Day Five, Miami Art Walk and Delano Pool Area – Out of your league is no longer out of our league
o The day starts early. At nine PM we taxi over to the mainland for the Miami Artwalk. What an amazing place and what an incredible idea. Every second Tuesday of the month Miami hosts this amazing Art Walk where art galleries are open from 8PM to 11PM. The art galleries serve wine, there is live music outside and gorgeous women fill the streets. We arrive and quickly make our way into one of the main gallery rooms. We overwhelm the space and soon several girls are being spun around, picked up, carried away and we are all laughing. One group of girls stays longer in the room just to watch us get phone number after phone number. Instead of being appalled by this “chauvinistic” behavior this group of girls is drawn in and they cannot seem to move away from us. They kept reopening our group. We literally cannot push them away.
o We move to the streets and the fun continues. Brazilian girls, local girls, Venezuelan girls, Spanish girls, Nicaraguan girls, English girls, Cuban girls, you name it and at least one member of our entourage made out with them. Everyone was making out. There were several girls that could even have been pulled right away but the vibe we had going in our group was so great, that no one wanted to end the night early. Subsequently, the chicks we let go kept texting us during the rest of the night. Our biggest problems upon leaving the Art Walk and making our way back to the Delano were trying to figure who was who in our list of new phone numbers and how to wash so many shades of lipstick and lip-gloss off our faces. We owned the Art-Walk!!!
o For a good laugh, we repeatedly went back to our trademark line during the trip “Like a dog”. We emulated the scene from the movie “Super Troopers” were two highway police men, pull a car over and challenge each other to slip in the word “meow” five times during his conversation without the driver noticing. Similarly, we would approach girls and see how many times we could say “like a dog” without her noticing. Julien would outright say it to their faces and this would make all of us laugh even more.
§ What a great way to amp up our states! This simple, perhaps even juvenile routine, added immensely to our overall enjoyment.
o The positive energy translated to the Delano pool area once again, sets were blowing open. Julien continued to inspire us with his self amusement approach and by leading through example. I saw Julien sitting with a group of Brazilian chicks by the pool and from my understanding of the language, I could hear how they “absolutely hated him” he triggered a very powerful emotion.
§ However, all in due course, his plan was slowly unfolding. I actually stopped what I was doing to watch how he turned the table on the girls and a few minutes later he was making out with the most attractive one of the bunch.
o The good times continued and Julien persisted on having us push our limits. He instructed me to approach a dime piece in my view. This super tanned girl resembled a mix between a young Farrah Fawcett with Meghan Fox before she was pulled from Transformers. She was way way out of my league in my view. I approached with massive hesitation and I was immediately blown off. I turned to Julien with a sad face. Julien looked at me, smirked and said “Go get a REAL MAN’s blow out” and back I went. I made some jokes, I told her how intimidated I was by her and my persistence paid off. The girl started to like me, she loved the confidence. The conversation fizzled a bit and she blew me off again to go to the bathroom. When she returned Julien sent me back in again. We kept pushing the envelope more and more.
o Julien instructed me to keep being congruent and not to focus on the result. I could tell that her attraction was building more and more. After a long amazing chat with this goddess of a girl, she gave me her number and a kiss. Four days later she has texted me every day joking around about a possible visit to Philly. I keep telling her that Philly sucks and that NYC is way better. I told her she can take the cheap China town bus to come see me.
o That night Julien hammered home the idea that a girl does not have to necessarily like you to sleep with you. Don’t allow your desire to have a girl like you stand in the way of you making a move. To me, this last set of the night was a clear demonstration of the immense improvement achieved during boot-camp.
o Day Six, Niki Beach – Slapped into a Swedish Night of Fun
o First day without our fearless instructor Julien. Boot camp was over and he was dearly missed. Julien went off to LA to quickly pack everything he owned before departing on his year long boot-camp expedition across Europe.
o As we arrive we stop for a while to chat and to get to know each other better since stopping to small-talk during boot-camp was not allowed. After a few minutes our attention quickly turns back to the game and to improving our newly sharpened skills.
o I see a group of two Brazilian girls, I open, start to chat with them and soon we are having a great time. We laugh, I bite one of them on the face and the girl tells me that she is not making out with another Brazilian while she is on vacation in Miami. We continue to laugh and I roll off.
o Dave and I see a group of cute chicks from Connecticut and we move in. We start to chat them up, we are laughing, we quickly get physical. I start to play the two sisters against each other. One slaps me in the face, as a joke, since I keep teasing her. I pull her close and whisper in her ear “you like that” and tell her to slap me again. She slaps me so hard that I almost feel over. I believe at that point I became a bit too reaction seeking and the set fizzled.
o I move onto another two set of girls walking by. I tell them my name and they say that I shouldn’t try so hard. Nasty blow off.
o I see another three set, open and start telling stories, I go on for about fifteen minutes about how I would have babies with a woman and only marry her for the first two years to help her with the baby and then I would move on to the next.
o I actually think I convinced the three of them that it was the “right” thing to do. I move them to the bar and bounce as soon as I see a gorgeous group of five Swedish girls approaching.
o I open the hot Swedish girls on spring break. I start telling stories, I joke around, I dominate the set. The super cute 21yr old blonde across from me, wearing the smallest black shorts ever, keeps giving me the anime eyes. A song I really like starts playing and I tell them its my song. One girl suggests we go to the dance floor and I agree. I move them towards the dance floor. As we enter I grab the hand of the girl I liked the most, I ask her for her name again and then I ask her friends for permission to borrow her for two minutes. They agree and I take my girl to a different part of Niki Beach. We talk for maybe a minute or two and we start making out. Back to chatting, more making out, I move her again and repeat the cycle. I can tell that we are both starting to get pretty horny. At this point I’m pretty much rubbing between her legs in front of everyone at the club as she rubs my crotch with her hand. I move her again but this time to a dark section of the club against a wall. I start to finger her and after I open my belt with my other hand she starts to assist me as well. I try for the pull to my apt., again and again but she keeps saying “I’m not the type of girl that follows a guy home on the first night”. I try everything to pull her back to the apt, “two minutes, after party, watch videos” anything to take the responsibility away from her. I explain to her I live so close that we would be back before her friends even notice we left. She keeps saying no but at one point she asks me for my address. I grab her hand and bring her to the door of the club but she stops me right before we get into a cab. I still can’t get her to move out of the club. We move back to our corner and continue to make out. As the buying temperature goes up again I grab her hand and move her into a storage area I had seen earlier. In there the resistance faded and our love story continued gloriously. Afterwards we exchange contact information, she tells me how she is coming to New York in a few weeks and we make plans to see each other again.
o This was an absolutely amazing interaction with a girl I consider to be totally my type. In the past I may have acted nervously or I may have stayed away from physical escalation with a girl like that out of fear of loosing her. Thanks to Julien’s amazing insight I had amazing results and my skills have improved tremendously.
o Lastly, I’m super thankful for all of Julien’s guidance and I look forward to seeing him again in the future. I’m also very thankful for Owen’s amazing commentary, insights and powerful message of holistic self improvement. Also, a big thank you to David and Seth, the two amazing assistants who cracked the whip and force-fed us the lessons that we needed.
o What immense improvement this week has yielded. All students improved enormously, luckily everyone got lucky, smiles all around and money well invested. I highly recommend this program for anyone who is serious about self-improvement, expanding their comfort zone and having more success with beautiful women.
o You will laugh, you will have fun, you will struggle, you will have successes, but most importantly, with Julien, you will expand your comfort zone and you will learn how to improve yourself.