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JFM and RockNRollPUA How long have you guys been married for?...
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It's actually not a criticism at all...but I can see how powerlessness at a really deep level can lead to a rejection of the real self ( self esteem..which doesn't require any reasons of any kind...that's why it's known as unconditional).
Do you really think anyone cares if guys get laid? When it's natural, it never goes on a "scale". That's just when the driver is low self esteem. You sound like a sociopath. Uncool. But it's not a joke. You actually believe it. Really worth noting what can and does happen. Some people do the same with money...lots of different shit. Working out. Social position. These things in themselves are fine. That's not what you're saying. Not at all.
No people actually DO care if you get laid if they are asking for ADVICE ON HOW TO GET LAID! Infact the only thing that even fucking matters on this forum is weather or not you get laid. Nobody looks up to a keyboard warrior. People do look up to men who get shit done. I get shit done, the instructors get shit done, and many other posters on this forum get shit done. You don't do shit. Your brain is so fucked up with inner game philosophical bullshit that has no context, because you don't actually interact with females on a regular basis. I have been in the game long enough to tell the difference between a real hardcore motherfucking pimp, and a basement dwelling pickup nerd. I know women for what they are: stimulation junkies that just want to have cock shoved in them. Thats it. Its not any more complicated than that. Hey do us all a favor. Go out to a bar this weekend, do some approaches, and write what happened in the real world.Do you really think anyone cares if guys get laid? When it's natural, it never goes on a "scale". That's just when the driver is low self esteem. You sound like a sociopath. Uncool. But it's not a joke. You actually believe it. Really worth noting what can and does happen. Some people do the same with money...lots of different shit. Working out. Social position. These things in themselves are fine. That's not what you're saying. Not at all.
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Trying to be interesting is a good sign of low self esteem.
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@JFM
i've applied it. girls overall love to feel safe and in control (my control) when they know they can be themselves freely so when some shit happens they're sure i can handle it and take control of the situation. even if i have to use physical force (for example to stop her when she's starts to girl fight to get all fucked up).
to me you get waaaaay too carried away with specualations about people and world while giving no real life examples of your theories. for real, phrases like "A real man understands how the world works" or "comparing your insides to other people's outsides" or "Forcing and controlling is an illusion" without valid evidence don't really mean anything.
what i pointed out was reality of men live in. force and control. exactly like it was said before, only moment a woman controls anything is when a man allows her. not always her man. just some men with power and authority.
a chick can be cheeky as she she feels she has backup in form of the law legislated by men
a chick can act like a bitch as she knows she has plenty of men protecting her in case shit
a chick can act ballsy as she knows that many men who will let her do shit due to being mesmerized
a chick can act be manipulative as she knows many men will let her in hopes of getting some sort of affection
her "power" is directly determinated by control and force applied by men.
i guess we can agree to disagree at best cause i can't see the sense in your writting. i'm done here
i've applied it. girls overall love to feel safe and in control (my control) when they know they can be themselves freely so when some shit happens they're sure i can handle it and take control of the situation. even if i have to use physical force (for example to stop her when she's starts to girl fight to get all fucked up).
to me you get waaaaay too carried away with specualations about people and world while giving no real life examples of your theories. for real, phrases like "A real man understands how the world works" or "comparing your insides to other people's outsides" or "Forcing and controlling is an illusion" without valid evidence don't really mean anything.
what i pointed out was reality of men live in. force and control. exactly like it was said before, only moment a woman controls anything is when a man allows her. not always her man. just some men with power and authority.
a chick can be cheeky as she she feels she has backup in form of the law legislated by men
a chick can act like a bitch as she knows she has plenty of men protecting her in case shit
a chick can act ballsy as she knows that many men who will let her do shit due to being mesmerized
a chick can act be manipulative as she knows many men will let her in hopes of getting some sort of affection
her "power" is directly determinated by control and force applied by men.
i guess we can agree to disagree at best cause i can't see the sense in your writting. i'm done here
@JFM
i've applied it. girls overall love to feel safe and in control (my control) when they know they can be themselves freely so when some shit happens they're sure i can handle it and take control of the situation. even if i have to use physical force (for example to stop her when she's starts to girl fight to get all fucked up).
to me you get waaaaay too carried away with specualations about people and world while giving no real life examples of your theories. for real, phrases like "A real man understands how the world works" or "comparing your insides to other people's outsides" or "Forcing and controlling is an illusion" without valid evidence don't really mean anything.
what i pointed out was reality of men live in. force and control. exactly like it was said before, only moment a woman controls anything is when a man allows her. not always her man. just some men with power and authority.
a chick can be cheeky as she she feels she has backup in form of the law legislated by men
a chick can act like a bitch as she knows she has plenty of men protecting her in case shit
a chick can act ballsy as she knows that many men who will let her do shit due to being mesmerized
a chick can act be manipulative as she knows many men will let her in hopes of getting some sort of affection
her "power" is directly determinated by control and force applied by men.
i guess we can agree to disagree at best cause i can't see the sense in your writting. i'm done here
i've applied it. girls overall love to feel safe and in control (my control) when they know they can be themselves freely so when some shit happens they're sure i can handle it and take control of the situation. even if i have to use physical force (for example to stop her when she's starts to girl fight to get all fucked up).
to me you get waaaaay too carried away with specualations about people and world while giving no real life examples of your theories. for real, phrases like "A real man understands how the world works" or "comparing your insides to other people's outsides" or "Forcing and controlling is an illusion" without valid evidence don't really mean anything.
what i pointed out was reality of men live in. force and control. exactly like it was said before, only moment a woman controls anything is when a man allows her. not always her man. just some men with power and authority.
a chick can be cheeky as she she feels she has backup in form of the law legislated by men
a chick can act like a bitch as she knows she has plenty of men protecting her in case shit
a chick can act ballsy as she knows that many men who will let her do shit due to being mesmerized
a chick can act be manipulative as she knows many men will let her in hopes of getting some sort of affection
her "power" is directly determinated by control and force applied by men.
i guess we can agree to disagree at best cause i can't see the sense in your writting. i'm done here
Yes...what you've written is 100% true. But it's all about what women do and how to deal with that. And all your points are important to know about...to know about how things work. What I'm saying is WHAT ABOUT YOU man. RockerPUA is flipped, truly hates women and actually thinks he "knows a lot" and can outsmart dumb bitches and be in "control" of the woman. I call BS hands down. Why does he care? NOBODY ELSE CARES EITHER. Good advice is about getting a guy connected to his own core.
Being better than the woman, and it being about "shoving your cock in them" is just self-hate. Pure sociopath. To RRPUA, getting laid and "knowledge" and "ability" and "control" is a replacement for liking himself. Again. The cool guy has ZERO reasons for liking himself. He CHOOSES to like himself, that's what makes him powerful. A man.
The hate oozing out of the thread is unreal. I mean really thick. The opposite of that isn't DENIAL of how women are, it's ADMITTING that it has fuck all to do with me.
I think yorro's post is accurate. Just not complete. The action is in a whole other realm. Why the HELL would I want to become self-hating, invisible and a emotionally dead CHARACTER, pumped with pride and reasons to fuck women. That's Mr Invisible. It is an aspect of sex ( to objectify women), but building that into a fucking personality? WTF?
I'm glad it got spelled out so clearly. It's truly bad news...like really bad.
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I'm enjoying this. JFM, you make great points; by the same token, to quote RRPUA, women ARE "stimulation junkies that just want to have cock shoved in them". It's not a paradox though it may seem like one. I can keep both realities in my head at the same time - no conflict. Just like someone said up-thread, are you guys married, why are you fighting this out?
I find it funny that more women than men go to college
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I'm enjoying this. JFM, you make great points; by the same token, to quote RRPUA, women ARE "stimulation junkies that just want to have cock shoved in them". It's not a paradox though it may seem like one. I can keep both realities in my head at the same time - no conflict. Just like someone said up-thread, are you guys married, why are you fighting this out?
RRPUA isn't important, but the mistake that there is no paradox is hugely important. Imagine a thread where the paradox is spelled out in real life. It's pretty clear that "the revenge of the chodes" isn't working ( spelled out in the thread), so why not evolve. Boundaries. Guys finally JUST focusing on themselves. Respect. Good relationships that have NOTHING to do with niceness. Nothing new since David Deida 20 years ago.
The nerd viewpoint sees no paradox. The important guy with women is ME. End of story. In the RRPUA disaster, the man isn't in second place, he's non-existent.
What's the win? Where could it go? How about more Blueprint stuff APPLIED. You know, evolve it. If a losing strategy with women is going
untouched...I mean free-fall...without anyone really noticing or caring, what in the flying fuck is going on? It gets a little stale at times, with the blisteringly obvious being "argued" and flamed...with sociopathic tendencies written all over it.
What about that goddam paradox? It often doesn't even MAKE it into the thread! I mean who cares right? Nothing really BAD could happen to a guy avoiding the paradox, right?
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I don't wanna get all Travis Bickle here but, reality is, Most People are usually boring and stupid and so god damn cliche... They're like fucking actors (or more like Robots) just playing their part or they just stand around looking at how other people do shit. Never have anything interesting to say or do, they just wake up, go to their shitty jobs, buy a house, buy shit for the house, eat some food, then work some more then retire and then die.... It is a sad Fucking Existence.....
OK, Fuck it, I'm gonna start a FIGHT CLUB!
... I was ALWAYS like: "it can't be true that most people are seriously not REALLY living their lifes by THEIR standarts and THEIR values.". BUT .... the more i grow as a person, and simultaneously I start to see the depth in life and the unisverse and all that blablaish wonderful shit, I can see generations of scool colleges and whatnotever friends start to settle down for a life of mediocrity.
Just like EVERY-FUCKING-ONE-ELSE.
... I never understood that adult humans were kids before they became adults. But now my eyes are OPEN. And it really, really kills me to .... fuck my english....!!
yea whatever..... I can feel y'all.
have a nice day. ciao